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All Marriages Are Not Covenants

My husband has filed, there is no scriptual basis, no Fornication He says not all marriages are covenant only marriages God puts together ("What God put together let no man seperate) He says God didn't put our marriage together, so nothing in the bible about Marriage or divorce applies to us.

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Obviously this is a lot about excuses. Did he not consult God before he gave his word? And if he did not ask God, how does that make him free from his own promise? Even Joshua and Israel kept their word when they had failed to ask God first. Read Joshua 9 for the story. I believe a man's word is binding, even if it hurts. The only release would be if he had promised to sin, and then he would have to repent of his rashness. God has wisdom, why don't we seek Him before making a commitment?
---Wayne8738 on 8/20/09

Jesus prohibited divorce except for adultery, that included lying about ones virginity. The non adulterer could remarry. The adulterer, and anyone marrying one, is entering a prohibited marriage. A divorce without cause, was no divorce, and so, another marriage was a type of bigamy. The exception is in 1Corinthians 7:15. If the unbeliever departs, the Christian can remarry because the marriage was not 'in the Lord'. Matthew 19:9, 1Corinthians 7:27-28 allow remarriage. Refusing to move was rebellious.
Deuteronomy 22:17-19, 28-29, 24:1-4, Proverbs 2:17 (forsaketh husband), Isaiah 54:4-8, Jeremiah 3:1, Malachi 2:14-16, Matthew 5:31-32, 19:3-12, Mark 10:2-12, Luke 16:18, 1Corinthians 6:15-16, 7:10-17, 27.
---Glenn on 8/17/09

If your marriage was consummated (i.e., you had sex) then in God's eyes you are one flesh and you ARE married, your husband's theological opinion notwithstanding.
---Jerry on 5/8/08

I don't think he has good standings wit God right now,he has to repent and do right with you so that his prayers won't be hendered!That is God's word!If he chooses otherwise and ignore the truth.or pick and choose then God will use discipline and God's wrath is greater then ours.I will pray for God to give you Guidence.Psalms 46:10 comes to mind.It says be still and know that I am God.He is in control.Also I would ask him to seek christian counseling as last resort.God could turn him around.God Bless!
---Anna on 8/2/07

I'm sorry to hear that. I would pray first and see what God wants me to do. Do not let fear overcome you. Instead, let God's love strengthen you and do what is right.
I'll be praying for you and your husband.
God bless...
---AJ on 7/30/07

marriage began in Eden. Gen 2:22,23,24. God institued it..not man..or else He wouldnt of mentioned the above texts.
---jana on 5/21/06

Honey,your husband is "deceived".He has a "flesh" that wants to go sin..and he's trying to find a way out to go do it.Pray that he'll submit to God's will for his life and turn to God to give him love for you again.I went thru a similiar experience.Blessings
---lovable_linda on 4/25/05

There is only one reason in God's eyes for divorce, Fornication. That hasn't happened. I know in this state I can't "keep" him from divorcing me, but according to the ministers I've spoke with In God's eyes we will always be married because there was no fornication, which means I'm to stay single or reconcile
---Tami on 4/22/05

I don't know all the particulars. (Like whether your reasons are selfish for not following your man)But why would you force a man to stay with you if he does not want to. Even God lets us choose him of our own free will. With all the husbands killing their wives that I've seen in the news; I'd play it safe and let him go.
---Eloisa on 4/21/05

Anthony,it depends on personality some enjoy moving some are home bodies,this difference concerned me, I made sure to bring it upjust a week after dating. He said if he had a family why would he want to move,& promised we wouldn't,the only way it could come up is if he were transfered which hadn't happened in his dept We talked about options, I'd been working a family Co. since 15 (i was 34) & was to take it over, he said he could work his way back in a yr, a month after marrying, without a transfer, he started trying to move & said God was telling him THAT too.
---Tammy on 4/14/05

Melissa- Good point, but he would only come up with an excuse, He's had the word of ministers to tell him he's not inerpreting right but won't listen and still insists God is telling him to do it. Elder,according to him it does lineup "What God put together let no man seperate" he says God didn't put it together so God would seperate it. Elroy, I've tried to get him to pray with me he will not. Jerry,He is already online looking for a woman he says he is only looking for a girl "friend" and there is nothing wrong with that even though we haven't even been to court yet.
---Tammy on 4/13/05

The man is only looking for an excuse to leave. The Scripture does not support him at all. The Bible is clear that God was the 3rd party (witness) at your marriage. One question I would ask though, is why are you so dead set against moving? Everyone is entitled to their preferences, but have you honestly PRAYED about whether or not God would ever have you to move?
---Anthony on 4/13/05

So often, wishful thinking is mistaken as a message from God.
---Alan_of_U.K. on 4/10/05

If your husband thinks the marriage is only legal by law how does he cope with the Scripture command to obey the laws of man?

This guy is looking for a way out. Wave by and let him go if that is what he wants. Let him know the sin of fornication takes in all sexual sins to include what he does to you mentally and physically to include abandonment.

If God is speaking to him why does the message not line up with Scripture?

Sounds like this guy is going to do you a favor.
---Elder on 4/10/05

God does not put marriages togethr,people do ,that's why there's a 50% divorce rate! All marriages are covenants because it is an oath sworn before "witnesses" (it's the law). It's obvious the guy wants OUT,for whatever reason. To force him to stay would be a mistake! He probably dosn't want to say the real reason he wants out! It will eventually surface.
---1st_cliff on 4/10/05

Since both of you are believers, your one flesh union is an equal yoke, so he has no permission from God to divorce. As for God telling him to divorce, i think it is more his own voice of desire to move which he is hearing rather than God's voice to break wedlock. If he is a believer he should seek a closer relationship with the Lord, which only comes through prayer, and both of you should hold hands and bow yourselves and close your eyes and pray to God together for his blessing and his help to tighten your marriage.
---Eloy on 4/10/05

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He says I lied before marriage, so says it is based on a lie and God wouldn't put something together on a lie. He says it's like a girl told a guy she was pregnant and he married her then found she wasn't it wouldn't be covenant because of a lie The "lie" he believes, I told him a week after we started dating I was raised where I live and had no intentions or desire to move so not to get involved with me if he didn't want to stay.(he was use to moving)He through miscommunication or not hearing me says I later told him I would. when he wanted to move and I wouldn't he said I lied
---Tammy on 4/9/05

Tammy: There is nothing so revolting as a "man of God" (he claims God speaks to him) who tries to twist the scriptures so that God is responsible for his sin. Did someone make him say "I do?" HE made a covenant with you - before God - which he now wants out of. Why? I would bet that adultry is at the heart of it - if not physical - then in his heart. Either one is sin, and God does not promote sin. Should you believe God or man?
---Jerry on 4/9/05

Gee! How convenient to make the Bible say what you want!
---Andre on 4/9/05

Paul instructs the younger widow to marry "whoever she chooses, as long as he is in the Lord." If this is the case, and she can "choose" who she wants, then did God not put that couple together, and therefore is it not a covenant marriage? I think the "covenant marriage" thing is a cop out.
---Melissa on 4/9/05

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ALL marriages are until death do they part. tell that man to read the book of malachi, the last one in the old testament. God hates divorce, and those who do should ask themselves, what if God divorced us?
---curt on 4/9/05

He doesn't say we aren't married,(he looks at it as only legally I think) he says not all marriages are covenant, only those God put together. (since he doesn't believe God put ours together it is not covenant in his eyes) So he doens't have to obey any of the commandments about there only being fornication to divorce, or do not divorce, or any thing else because those commandments are only for covenant marriages that God put together. Matter of fact he says that God is telling him to divorce me.
---tammy on 4/9/05

Matthew,19 & 8
He saith unto them Mo'ses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beggining it was not so.
---Bill on 4/9/05

How does your husband know that God did not put that marriage together? Email, voice mail or snailmail? Sometimes His ways are not discernable to us.
---Karel on 4/9/05

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'Jesus said, Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness and marries another woman commits adultery.'(Mat18:8) You say you are husband and wife. I do not know whether God joins any other except male and female.
---gregg on 4/9/05

1 God honours all marriages even if He may have not put them all together (What of children?)
2 If you are a believer and your husband is not you would be free to marry again but only to another believer
But seek help as I know how distressing it can be as my ex wife left me for another man many years ago
God bless
---Mike on 4/9/05

Couple I knew ... shortly after fifth child was born, he got another woman.

He was high up in lay leadership in church.

On challenged on the sin he was committing, he said Jesus forgives our mistakes ... what he meant was that Jesus had forgiven his mistake in entering the first marriage.

He has since had many relationships and three marriages!
---Alan_of_U.K. on 4/9/05

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