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Christians Don't Keep The Law

Does Paul teach that Christians saved by faith do not have to keep the law?

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The O.T. Law of performings, no, but the N.T. law of obedience, yes. Paul says, "Therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death. Seeing one God which will justify the circumcision by obedience, and uncircumcision through obedience. The law then do we make anarchy through that obedience? Not let it be! But law we establish." Romans 8:1,2+ Romans 3:30,31.
---Eloy on 10/18/09


>"Jeremiah prophesied concerning God's new deal with His people in terms of the New Covenant, in which God's Law is to be internalized"

Amen! We need to learn to love God with all out heart, mind and strength and our neighbor as ourselves.
---djconklin on 10/16/09


When we learn to love God's way(agape love) and that includes learning to love others,can we truly say we are becoming Christians. We will never learn to do this perfectly, in the true sense of the word, but we will get better at it. It is an ongoing process. If we are led by the Spirit and truly make ourselves avaialable to Him, we can accomplish this,day by day.We grow in our christian walk,day by day and little by little. It does not happen overnight. Thanks be to God.
---Robyn on 3/15/09


"Jeremiah prophesied concerning God's new deal with His people in terms of the New Covenant, in which God's Law is to be internalized"
catherine on 3/13/09

Indeed, and Jesus said John 6:54: "Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day." That's internalizing, right?
---Nana on 3/14/09


No, Paul did not teach such thing....The "instruction" given by God to Moses and the Isralites became known as "the Law" or, and I love this one, "the direction". [Because I am telling you that right there explains so much in all of this], AND QUITE FREQUENTLY as "the Law of the Lord". Ps. 119:1, or the "Law of God", Neh. 8:18, or the "Law of Moses", Mal. 4:4. The word can refer to the whole of the "Law". Ps. 78:5, or to parti. Jeremiah prophesied concerning God's new deal with His people in terms of the New Covenant, in which God's Law is to be internalized. God's people would willingly obey Him....And woe to any man who tries to stand in the way of God and His people!
---catherine on 3/13/09




To Whosoever has an ear to hear?

Paul was sharing with the Believers of Christ that the Messianic Law was only a SchoolMaster which could bring them unto Justifying Faith in Christ: and that after Faith has come they were to no longer abide under a ShchoolMaster.

Paul shared this because many were unaware that there's a distinction between just 'Believing in Christ & Believing by Faith in Christ'. The Book of James make this distinction clear.

It very important that we recognize that there's a distinction between a SchoolMaster, and everything else we are to continue to follow that was inspired by the Grace of God which is considered by definition a 'Command of God'(like to not abide in sin or the '10 Commandments').
---Shawn_M.T. on 3/12/09


There are two things here, the law and faith. Paul taught in the church in Galatia that 'no man is justified by the law in the sight of God.' Paul called the law a curse. 'And the law is not of faith: but, the man that doeth them shall live in them.' We were redeemed by Christ from the curse of the law, not from the law itself.
---gregg on 3/2/08


No, I do not believe that the Apostle Paul teaches any such thing. He does teach that we don't have to "keep" the law to be assured of our salvation, but, that our desire to keep it is driven by our thankfulness for what God, through the Lord Jesus Christ, has done for us. We don't have the threat of punishment as unbelievers do, but, we do have to watch out for chastisement. Thank God for the FINISHED work of our Lord and Saviour.
---tommy3007 on 6/16/07


audrey - When I posted that 100s of Adventist pastors & theologians have left Adventistism in the past 3 decades, I need to state that bec of the controversy created by Des Ford on the Investigative Judgment study alone, SDA ministers in the US, Canada quit. In Australia alone over 200 SDA pastors quit - over one quarter of all SDA churches.

From a biblical standpoint the Investigative Judgment is impossible to defend. It was a face-saving attempt for those in the 1844 Great Disappointment.
---lee on 1/16/07


audrey - Yes, jesus did say that if you loved him you would obey His commandments in John. But a linguistic analysis of those verses would reveal that the Old Covenant ten commandments are not in view.

In reality to show love towards others is to show love toward God. If you have done it unto the least of mine, you have done it unto me. Mt. 25:40

And now you know why literally hundreds of pastors & theologians have left the Adventist church during the past 3 decades.
---lee on 1/16/07




some say its wrong to keep the law. absurd. Then Christ should have never said, "if you love me,keep my commandments." some people don't understand is that one must go back to history when the scriptures were written. You could never 'work' your way to God's promise, it is a gift. faith without works is dead.' God does want obedience from His children. And we are to obey His wonderful laws. all have sinned and we need His forgiveness and grace, but done away with, 'God forbid', as Paul said.
---audrey on 1/16/07


Lee said "the Bible is expected to harmonize with the teachings of Ellen White."

Actually, it's the other way around, and why not? If her writings didn't line up I would be the first to discard them. Trouble is that you have dissected the Bible, preaching two legitimate religions Judaism & Christianity, God the Father disagreeing with Jesus, and Paul & God frequently flip flopping on truth. But Jesus, as Paul, upheld the Law-Heb 4:15; Ro 3:31, 6:15; Ro 7:7; Gal 3:21
---Geoff on 1/16/07


jana - *You interpret the Word of God anyhow u want but the bible.*

Not in the least do I interpret the Word of God apart from that of the teachers the Lord has given to the church.

SDA on the other hand, must interpret the Scripture thru the eyes of Ellen White.

They regard her as the hermeneutical key to unlock the Scripture.

A proper Adventist interpretation of the Bible is expected to harmonize with the teachings of Ellen White otherwise they are regarded as heretical.
---lee on 1/15/07


2 Tim. 3:6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

I have nothing to do with "silly woman laden with sins" as was Ellen White as what she wrote she claimed was from God when in fact, she borrowed much from other authors without any due credit to them.
---lee on 1/15/07


Lee, you are going against God not me. You interpret the Word of God anyhow u want but the bible. Your dislike 4 sdas has turned u blind from the truth hence :Ever Learning and never coming to know truth" Let God be judge brother. Go with the truth and stop disputing God's Truth.
---Jana on 1/15/07


jana - you need to consider the background of the Galatian church in order to understand why Paul wrote that epistle to them.

They begin with the Spirit but felt that observance to ceremonial laws - and Sabbath keeping, festivals, etc.- were needed to complete their Christian walk.(3:3)

As to law, there is no distinction made in NT scripture as to types; so we conclude that when the Bible speaks of 'the law' it means just that namely the whole law - all types.
---lee on 1/14/07


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jana - *We are observing and going by the bible so why would u go by 9 commands when God gave us 10.*

God did not give US the ten commandments. He gave them to the Jewish nation alone.

Moral law is all the law that the Christian need heed as they reflect the very holiness of God Himself.

No where in the NT is the Church commanded to observe any kind of Sabbath.

The 10 commandments are NOT eternal or given to all mankind.
---lee on 1/14/07


your wrong again Lee..Gentiles didnt have 2 obey Mosaic Laws cos t'was done away at the cross and the 7th day Sabbath of the 10 Holy ommands of God which is an everlasting covenant to us all Gen9:16 and is perpetual Ex31:16, is still intact today till the end. We are observing and going by the bible so why would u go by 9 commands when God gave us 10.Break one, u break the lot.
---jana on 1/14/07


(b)Lee 2 often u just take part of text that agrees with u to prove a point yet wrong.To continue on this text V21 Is the law then against the promises of God?God 4bid, 4 if there had been a law given which could have given life, verity righteousness should have been by the law.AMEN.V22But scripture has concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of JC might b given 2 them that believe.ABSOLUTELY.But b4 faith came, we were kept underlaw,(C/Laws) shutup unto faith which should afterwards b revealed
---jana on 1/14/07


(c)Gal3:24 Lee u have used this text wrongly many times: Where4 the law(Ceremonial laws)was our schoolmaster 2 bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith ABSOLUTLY.
BUT AFTER THAT FAITH IS COME, WE R NO LONGER UNDER A SCHOOL MASTER(ceremonial laws).V26 4we r children of God by faith in JC.V27For as many of u as have been baptised into JC have put on Christ.
---jana on 1/14/07


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Gal3:28there is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female, for ye are all one in CJesus.V29and if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promises.Gal2:21I refuse to reject the grace of God but if a person is put right whith God thru the Law(c/laws), it means that Christ died 4 nothing..This whole chapter of Gal3 explains itself and u Lee use it wrongly.
---jana on 1/14/07


There is a law on the books that if you use a horse & buggy on the road, you have to have proper reflectors on it. If I do not have a horse & buggy, then the law does not apply to me!

What Gina subbornly refuses to acknowledge is the fact that laws in the OT not found within the New Covenant do not apply to the church. They are obsolete -

Hebrews 8;13 In speaking of a new covenant, he makes the 1st one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.
---lee on 1/14/07


Gina - *So many personal opinions in the last few posts, but entirely NO scripture to back it up. What does the Bible say? "Do we then made void the law through faith? *

As posted before - Galatians 3:24-25 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
---lee on 1/14/07


So many personal opinions in the last few posts, but entirely NO scripture to back it up. What does the Bible say? "Do we then made void the law through faith? God forbid. yea, we establish the law" Romans 3:31 "What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?" Romans 6:1,2 "If ye love me, keep my commandments" John 14:15 Sin is the breaking of the 10CC (1John3:4)
---Gina on 1/13/07


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More of what the Bible says,(and not mans' opinion as many state here)"Whosoever sommitteth sin trangresseth also the law; for sin is the transgression of the law. And ye know that He was manisfested to take away our sins, and in him is no sin. Whosoever abideth in Him sinneth not; whosoever sinneth hath not seen Him, neither known him" 1John3:4-6 So much for the opinion stated here that grace should allow the Christian to sin. News flash: a sinner is a sinner, not a Christian!
---Gina on 1/13/07


"Little children, let no man deceive you. he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him, and he cannot sin, because he is born of God" 1John3:7-9
---Gina on 1/13/07


"Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For without are dogs, and sorcerers (break 1st C), whoremongers (break 7th) and murderers (break 6th), and idolaters (break 2nd) and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie (break 9th)" Revelation 22:14 Who are the saved? Commandment keepers. Who are the lost? Sinners, commandment breakers.
---Gina on 1/13/07


Matthew, "Christina understand that we are not following the law if we are reading the law to understand what sin is. As Christians we are supposed to stop sinning. We must know what sin is in order to stop"
Understood...it is the Spirit that leads us into all truth and it is by the Spirit that we are able to stop sinning.
---Christina on 1/12/07


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Paul taught that those "in Christ" will not sin or violate the moral law. He did teach that obedience to the Mosaic law of circumcision was not required and not a sin if one does not submit to circumcision. In the Jerusalem council of which Paul was a major participant, the church agreed that the Gentiles did not have to observe Mosaic laws; and I believe that would include the Sabbath and other distinctive Jewish laws.
---lee on 1/12/07


We do not keep the rules and laws under the old mosaic covenent. We are under grace(the new testament covenant) which keeps us from going back to that. If you try to keep the law doctrine. You have fallen from "Grace.This does not please God. Read the entire book of Galatians. Ask God to give you spiritual understanding and wisdom, as you read.
---MARILYN_DIGGS on 1/12/07


Christ paid the 'penalty' for our transgressions. And sin is..."the transgression of the law." He did NOT do away with His Father's commandments. It's as if we broke a law (passing a stop sign) but not paying the penalty. Forgiven. But you do NOT continue to break the law! Paul is clear and the law is NOT done away with "God forbid". You would not know what sin was without the law! It's like a mirror!
---Audrey on 1/12/07


Christina understand that we are not following the law if we are reading the law to understand what sin is. As Christians we are supposed to stop sinning. We must know what sin is in order to stop.
---Matthew on 1/12/07


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1) Read Galatians 3. I was reading this chapter the other night, and thought of you Emcee...Pray for the Spirits' revelation.

Faith or Observance of the Law
1You foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? Before your very eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed as crucified. 2I would like to learn just one thing from you: Did you receive the Spirit by observing the law, or by believing what you heard?
---Christina on 1/10/07


2) 3Are you so foolish? After beginning with the Spirit, are you now trying to attain your goal by human effort? 4Have you suffered so much for nothingif it really was for nothing? 5Does God give you his Spirit and work miracles among you because you observe the law, or because you believe what you heard?
6Consider Abraham: "He believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness."[a] 7Understand, then, that those who believe are children of Abraham.
---Christina on 1/10/07


3) 9So those who have faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith.
10All who rely on observing the law are under a curse, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law."[c] 11Clearly no one is justified before God by the law, because, "The righteous will live by faith."[d] 12The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, "The man who does these things will live by them
---Christina on 1/10/07


4) 13Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree."[f] 14He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit.
---Christina on 1/10/07


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5)14He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit.
The Law and the Promise
15Brothers, let me take an example from everyday life. Just as no one can set aside or add to a human covenant that has been duly established, so it is in this case.
---Christina on 1/10/07


6)16The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. The Scripture does not say "and to seeds," meaning many people, but "and to your seed,"[g] meaning one person, who is Christ. 17What I mean is this: The law, introduced 430 years later, does not set aside the covenant previously established by God and thus do away with the promise. 18For if the inheritance depends on the law, then it no longer depends on a promise; but God in his grace gave it to Abraham through a promise.
---Christina on 1/10/07


7) 19What, then, was the purpose of the law? It was added because of transgressions until the Seed to whom the promise referred had come. The law was put into effect through angels by a mediator. 20A mediator, however, does not represent just one party; but God is one.
21Is the law, therefore, opposed to the promises of God? Absolutely not! For if a law had been given that could impart life, then righteousness would certainly have come by the law.
---Christina on 1/10/07


8) 22But the Scripture declares that the whole world is a prisoner of sin, so that what was promised, being given through faith in Jesus Christ, might be given to those who believe.
23Before this faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. 24So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ[h] that we might be justified by faith. 25Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law.
---Christina on 1/10/07


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9) 26You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus, 27for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

PRAISE THE LORD JESUS CHRIST!
---Christina on 1/10/07


Just think, if we did not have any laws in our country what would happen. If there were no consequences for breaking the laws of the land, what would happen. G-d gave us instructions on how to live our daily lives. When we sin, we break the law, yes, G-d forgives us, we still have to pay the consequences of that sin. If you drink, drive, get caught, you might have to spend time in jail. Ask G-d to forgive you of that sin, he will, but you will still have to pay the consequence of breaking the law.
---Phyllis on 1/9/07


Paul also said that as Christians we must establish the law even though we are not judged by it. So yes he said we must keep the law. He just said we are not judged by it and are not under it. As a Christian you have the Holy Spirit which is a helper for you to overcome sin and establish the law among other things. (Romans 3:31) directly answers you question. God bless.
---Matthew on 1/9/07


Helen::Please don't Kid yourself I do not know what law you are refering to But the 10 commandments are every bit in force till your last dying breath.Violate one & you have broken all.Bar.4;1& matt5;19The grace is only with you if you are free from sin& sanctified.Dont Test God
---EMCEE on 1/9/07


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Christians do not have to keep the Law. Jesus Christ kept the Law perfectly for us. We are under grace, not Law.
---Helen_5378 on 1/9/07


Of course we don't keep the Law. If we did we wouldn't need the saving Grace of God. When we accept that we will be at least trying. But we will fail of ourselves over and over again.
---Scott on 1/8/07


Only Anti Christs, Anti Law, Anti 7th day Sabbath keeping people who are following satans teachings do not keep the Holy Moral Laws of God. And they be the ones to miss out the heavenly home. By them being disobedient to His commands, they prove to be Christ lovers yet obey the commands of evil men..I will continue to pray 4 them.
---lucy on 1/7/07


NO - just because you are saved by grace does NOT mean that you don't have to keep the 10 Commandments (the law). You are to live by them on a daily basis.
---Leslie on 1/7/07


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Dewey..the ceremonial laws are the the ones done away at the cross...not the 10 commandments of God..if christ didnt come to die for us, then we would sure be trying to keep up with farming sheep for daily sacrifice wont we? and what a tiring job that be. Jesus said 'IF YOU LOVE ME, KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS' simple as that and not hard to understand. Dont be like the stiffnecked Israelites..We are to Obey God's command.
---jana on 9/9/06


Christians are not under any aspect of the Mosaic law. The Mosaic law was a covenant between God and the nation of Israel. Christ perfectly fulfilled the Mosaic law at Calvary. Read, Galatians, Romans, and Hebrews and you will see that Paul makes it clear that we are not under the law. To those who wish to place themselves under the Mosaic law, the standard is perfection. The Christian's rule of life is found in the epistles.
---John on 7/22/06


Shalom, Yes, Yehoshua came and died for us, and his Father gave a new covenant in Yehoshua's blood for "forgiveness of sins". That's it, meaning gone now are sin offerings and Yom Kippur, and guilt offerings are gone as well...all the rest of the Law must still be obeyed. Including what Yehoshua commanded, things like, "call no man father, call no man rabbi, call no man raca or fool" . There is One God, the Father, and His son is Lord, not God.
---Barrie on 6/19/06


No Paul doesn't teach that at all. If he did then Paul would be in the wrong. We must live by God's rules, and the commandments Jesus gave us. We are also told by God to obey the laws of the land. which would be the laws of the legeal point of veiw.
---Rebecca_D on 6/1/06


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I do not have to keep the Law -- Christ kept it perfectly for me, then He abolished it on the Cross (Colossians 2:14). I now have the Holy Spirit living inside me to lead me into all truth ... so I have the Spirit's leading and conviction regarding what is right and wrong.
---Helen_5378 on 6/1/06


no Paul did not teach such..he wrote: Ephesian 2:8 "For by grace are ye saved through faith". By knowing and abiding by the laws, your life will change willingly
---jana on 6/1/06


Jay on 4/30/05-Jesus said 5 of 10 com to keep&"love your neighbor..."(Mt.19:18-19)&ALL law are these&com. to love God(Mt.22:37).New com.is love others as He loves us(Jn.13:34).Passover is communion(1Co 11:24-26)also on Sun.(Act 20:7)with no restriction to day or time(1Co.11:26).I don't keep all laws&feasts cuz some were crucified(Col.2:14)Days I do/don't keep special are for God's glory(Rm:14:4-13),not justification(Ga.4:10,5:4),&we're not to judge.Epistles clarify new cov.
---Sheila on 5/10/05


I am a messianic Jew. My life is the Torah. The Law as you Christians call it. As a Messianic Jew,I believe that Yeshua(Jesus)is the Messiah. HE IS A JEW! Of course,Salvation has always been through faith,not by the Law. However,you Christians want to throw out half of the Bible. Yeshua said that,"If you Love me,keep my commandments." So if you believe that it was Yeshua,son of God who gave the Torah at Sinai to Moses,then why do you not want to keep his laws and feasts. Like Passover. Get rid of Pagan things and come home to God
---jay on 4/30/05


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I believe we are saved through grace and faith, although each one of us has fall short of the glory of God, he still loves us constantly. One is coverered by all these throuh the two precis of the Law i.e. To love our God with all our heart, soul and mind and to love our neighbour as ourself. When one does this, it clearly points us back to the fact that we are exempted from doing all these by abiding to the ten commandments if one does the two succint pieces of new commaandment precided by the Lord Jesus Christ.
---Finau_Nanovo on 4/28/05


I believe we are saved through grace and faith, although each one of us has fall short of the glory of God, he still loves us constantly. One is coverered by all these throuh the two precis of the Law i.e. To love our God with all our heart, soul and mind and to love our neighbour as ourself. When one does this, it clearly points us back to the fact that we are exempted from doing all these by abiding to the ten commandments if one does the two succint pieces of new commaandment precided by the Lord Jesus Christ.
---Finau_Nanovo on 4/28/05


Dewey,
And your point is? Are you suggesting that we are obligated to keep ALL of the laws of Moses?
---Bruce5656 on 4/13/05


Bruce, the Mosaic Law and 10 commandments are the same.
---Dewey on 4/12/05


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We are under grace, thank you Jesus.
---Kathay on 4/12/05


Paul proclaims the love of Christ. Jesus kept the laws.... If we follow Jesus we are subject to his commandments which I read in the 14th and 15th chapters of the Gospel of John and in particular... John 15:12 "This is my commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you." Reading Scripture tells us how God loves us and wants to be in relationship with us.
---mary on 4/11/05


Just as a mirror shows us the dirt on our face, the law shows us our sin. The law doesn't cleanse us, Jesus does! But without the law, we wouldn't know that we need Jesus. Keeping the law is an act of love not a price to earn salvation. Jesus said, "If you love me, keep my commandments." the apostle John said that those that do not keep the commandments do not know God and are liars.
---Robin on 4/11/05


WHAT IS "THE LAW"?
----S on 4/11/05


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PART ONE:
It depends on what you mean by the "law". There is the Mosaic Law which governed the day to day life civil relationships and religious practices of the Jews and there is the Moral Code (10 Commandments). No one could keep all the requirements of the Mosaic Law so all stood condemned before God. The Mosaic Law was fulfilled in Christ and we are not obligated to follow it in any way. Some of the practices of the Mosaic Law may be good advice for us today but we are not bound by them as law.
---Bruce5656 on 4/10/05


PART TWO:
The Moral Code (10 Commandments) is reflected in the teaching of the New Testament. However, we must be very clear that we are not saved by keeping the 10 Commandments but rather we keep the 10 Commandments BECAUSE we are saved. (Not saved BY good works but UNTO good works.)

Here are some of the verses that illustrate that WE ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO THE MOSAIC LAW. That it has been fulfilled in Christ and as we are in Him, we fulfill the law.
---Bruce5656 on 4/10/05


PART THREE:
Read Romans. ALL the way through. Read it carefully, paying attention to Pauls progression from the condition of man with out God, obliged by his sinful nature to sin, unable to not sin, and then how he has been set free from the impossible to obey taskmaster the (Mosaic) Law. Free from the Law of Sin and Death. Free from the obligation to sin with the consequence of death. Free to NOT sin. Free to accept the righteousness of Christ (the ONLY law keeper) on our behalf.
---Bruce5656 on 4/10/05


PART FOUR:
Chapt. 7:3,4 does not describe Pauls present condition as a Christian. Too many people read those verses and say There, see, even Paul could not live a holy life. Rather you have to read on! He has touched on the answer in previous verses:

Romans 6:14, "For sin shall not have dominion over you: FOR YE ARE NOT UNDER THE LAW, but under grace."
---Bruce5656 on 4/10/05


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PART FIVE:
Romans 7:4, "Wherefore, my brethren, YE ALSO ARE BECOME DEAD TO THE LAW by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God."
Romans 7:6, "BUT NOW WE ARE DELIVERED FROM THE LAW, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter."
---Bruce5656 on 4/10/05


PART SIX:
And gives his triumphant conclusion: Romans 7:25 8:4, Who shall deliver me??? "I thank God through JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin. There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. FOR THE LAW OF THE SPIRIT OF LIFE IN CHRIST JESUS HATH MADE ME FREE FROM THE LAW OF SIN AND DEATH.
---Bruce5656 on 4/10/05


PART SEVEN:
For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit."
Romans 10:4, "For CHRIST IS THE END OF THE LAW for righteousness to every one that believeth."
---Bruce5656 on 4/10/05


1 Corinthians 9: 21 When I am with the Gentiles who do not have the Jewish law, I fit in with them as much as I can. In this way, I gain their confidence and bring them to Christ. BUT I DO NOT DISCARD THE LAW OF GOD; I OBEY THE LAW OF CHRIST.
---rick on 4/10/05


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law is works (by our doing) Jesus is grace, love and mercy (it will be done by Him) freedom! <><
---monique on 4/10/05


I like that, Eloy.
---John on 4/10/05


TO 1 cliff:
Do I gather from your response that since
we are under "grace" we may ignore the law?
That's what is commonly refered to as
"cheap grace" Join us in thanking the Lord
for his grace by lovingly, willingly obey-
ing his laws NOT TO BE SAVED but BECAUSE
WE ARE SAVED!
---Pierre on 4/10/05


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