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Secret Of The Rapture In The Bible

Does the Bible teach the "secret rapture"?

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Also there is no bibe verse saying that Jesus will reignon earth for 1000 years.--francis on 3/24/10
Rev 19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
When did Jesus and His saints return to heaven after the war?
Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy [is] he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
When did Jesus and His saints return to earth to be surrounded?
Rev 20:9a And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about,
You speak falseness francis.
---MIchael on 3/24/10


Francis:

I have heard your story before. That there is no millenial reign of Christ, that Rev 20 takes place ONLY in heaven, that we "reign" and rule with Jesus in heaven.

What a load of crap.

You have completely disregarded the physical reign of Christ foretold in Isaiah, the Prophets, and the Psalms. Everyone in Jesus day knew about the physical kingdom and reign of the Messiah, how can you just dismiss it and throw it away? Why would anyone rule in heaven when GOD is on the throne? It is silly to even think that I would rule where God is.

You have distorted Scripture to make it fit your fantasy.
---Mark_Eaton on 3/24/10


Scripture aside, what is the point of an after-tribulation rapture?

the rapture / second coming interupts the tribulation. It is during the tribulation at jesus returns.

Daniel 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation [even]
Daniel 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake,

Same as 1 thess 4: When jesus returns the dead in christ shall rise.

Also there is no bibe verse saying that Jesus will reignon earth for 1000 years.

the scene given by John in Rev 20 takes place in heaven. not on earth. Jesus will reign forever.
---francis on 3/24/10


mark Eaton
"Jesus is coming back to the earth to reign for 1000 years. Wouldn't God just have us wait here for Him? Why would we meet Him in the air only to do an about-face in mid-air and come back to earth?"

We meet him n the air, and go to heaven to reign ( As judges) with him for 1000 years. First resurrection

And after 1000 years then the rest of the dead are raised, and the NJ comes down, and then God will forever tabanacle with man.


Revelation 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

Revelation 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God [is] with men,
---francis on 3/24/10


All indications, and all biblce verse point to a NONE SECRET RAPTURE AFTER The tribulation
---francis on 3/24/10

Scripture aside, what is the point of an after-tribulation rapture?

This makes no sense to me.

Jesus is coming back to the earth to reign for 1000 years. Wouldn't God just have us wait here for Him? Why would we meet Him in the air only to do an about-face in mid-air and come back to earth?

And what is secret about it? Jesus told us that He does not even know the day but we would know the sequence of the Revelation. Could we not see the events and know when He is coming?

And what about the Marriage Supper of the Lamb? We are the Bride but yet we would miss this event.
---Mark_Eaton on 3/24/10




No. The Bible teaches that the Christian in righteousness is expecting the prophesied rapture, and the nonChristian in sin is not expecting the prophesied rapture.
---Eloy on 3/24/10


Glen:

Your prinmary reason for not believing that the Holy Spirit is removed from the earth is that people will be saved during the Great Tribulation.

Do you have Scripture for that belief? Every place I read in the Revelation it says:

Rev 9:20 "The rest of mankind, who were not killed by these plagues, did not repent of the works of their hands..."

Rev 16:9 "Men were scorched with fierce heat, and they blasphemed the name of God who has the power over these plagues, and they did not repent so as to give Him glory"
---Mark_Eaton on 3/24/10


Daniel 12:1 ..and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation [even] to that same time:
Daniel 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame [and] everlasting contempt.

1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air:


All indications, and all biblce verse point to a NONE SECRET RAPTURE AFTER The tribulation
---francis on 3/24/10


Glen,

Your posts are neither obvious nor crystal clear. As a matter of fact, you only show two trumpet calls, where are the other five in Scripture?

Numbers 10 describes for us the two trumpets and why they will be blown. The first is for summoning the congregation, and the second is to break camp and leave the area.

If the first trumpet call is in 1 Thes 4 to summon the church, then the second trumpet call that you have shown in Revelation 10 is the LAST TRUMPET for breaking camp on the earth. The Day of the Lord is over, the Day of God is starting.

You have not connected Rev 10 to 1 Thes 4 in any way, except having the word TRUMPET appear in both.
---Mark_Eaton on 3/24/10


who is him or he?
even if it is the holy spirit where does it say that? and if it is the holy spirit where does it say he is removed from the earth?
it's not even necessary
scripture says that "he" is restrained and taken out of the *way*, not removed from the earth
if the spirit of God is removed from the earth no one would be saved (no trib saints)
too many assumptions to what the word of God says it seems
scripture i have quoted recently makes it crystal clear
"the coming of the lord and our gathering will not come until that man of sin is revealed"
what is the rapture? the gathering or the falling away?
---glen on 3/24/10




the holy spirit is not moved from the earth, if he was no one would be saved (tribulation saints)
it would not even be necessary to remove the holy spirit, it says he will be *taken out of the way* as in *restraining* it does not say he will leave the earth
too many assumptions being added here
the previous scriptures i posted made it crystal clear that the *gathering* occurs after the trib and beast emerges

job 5
19He shall deliver thee in *six* troubles: yea, in *seven* there shall no evil touch thee.
---glen on 3/24/10


the *gathering* will not occur until after the beast is revealed as already said by paul in thessalonians
---glen on 3/23/10

2 Thes 2:6-8 "And you know what restrains him now, so that in his time he will be revealed. For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work, only he who now restrains will do so until he is taken out of the way. Then that lawless one will be revealed whom the Lord will slay with the breath of His mouth and bring to an end by the appearance of His coming"

He is revealed when the Body of Christ and the Holy Spirit is removed from the Earth.
---Mark_Eaton on 3/23/10


it's obvious the gathering together is after the tribulation

'*And immediately after the tribulation of those days*, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from the heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken,
followed by:

and he shall send his messengers with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his chosen from the four winds, from the ends of the heavens unto the ends thereof.

the *gathering* will not occur until after the beast is revealed as already said by paul in thessalonians
---glen on 3/23/10


Glen:

Ok, I will play by your rules. However, you will need to look up Scriptures for yourself.

In Matt 24:3 Jesus disciples ask Him three things "when will these things happen, and what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?"

In Matt 24:29-31 Jesus answers the second question by saying "the sun and moon will be darkened, stars will fall, the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, all the earth will see, and He will send forth His angels with A GREAT TRUMPET and THEY WILL GATHER TOGETHER His elect"

But where in the Revelation do you find these events?

In Rev 6:12-17, we see the same events nearly word for word. Only thing missing is the gathering.
---Mark_Eaton on 3/23/10


mark eaton
i can see what you mean but i have provided more scripture than you concerning this
"departure" from what exactly?

"some shall depart from the faith.....

it is an unscriptural assumption to say this is referring to departing from the earth, paul never said that
---glen on 3/23/10


glen:

The word "apostasia" in 2 Thes 2:3 was translated "departure" or "departing" by seven different English translations before the King James version changed the meaning of the word to "falling away".

Perhaps the KJV got the meaning of the word wrong. Perhaps Paul meant to say that our departure to be meet Christ in the air, that he (Paul) talked about 1 Thess 4 happens before the man of sin is revealed and before the day of the Lord comes.

Don't miss that. There are two events being talked about 2 Thes 2. The day of the Lord and the coming of Jesus. They are not the same event.
---Mark_Eaton on 3/23/10


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1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a SHOUT, with the VOICE of the archangel, and with the TRUMP of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

SOUNDS LIKE NOISE TO ME
no secret every eye shall see him,
---francis on 3/23/10


1COR 15:51 lo, I tell you a *SECRET*, we indeed shall not all sleep, and we all shall be changed,
1COR 15:52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, in the *LAST TRUMPET*, for it shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we -- we shall be changed:

the last trumpet is the 7th, and is the trumpet of God

REV 10:7 but in the days of the voice of the *SEVENTH* messenger*, when he may be about to sound, and the *SECRET* of God may be finished, as He did declare to His own servants, to the prophets.
these are not 2 different secrets and 2 different trumpets

job 5:19
In *six* distresses He delivereth thee, And in *seven* evil striketh not on thee.

the wrath of God falls after the 7th trumpet
---glen on 3/22/10


16because the Lord himself, in a shout, in the voice of a *chief-messenger*, and in the *trump* of God, shall come down from heaven, and the dead in Christ shall rise first,

12and they heard a great voice out of heaven saying to them, *`Come up hither,'*(voice of archangel) and they went up to the heaven in the cloud, and their enemies beheld them
followed by:
15And the *seventh messenger* did sound, and there came great voices in the heaven, saying, `The kingdoms of the world did become [those] of our Lord and of His Christ, and he shall reign to the ages of the ages!'

is this not the trumpet call of God? it declares the kingdom of christ, the rapture is completed here before wrath is poured onto the earth

---glen on 3/22/10


When are we going to be *GATHERED TOGETHER WITH HIM?*
1 Thess 4:17 says in the air
1 Thess 4:16 says the trump of God, not the 7th trumpet
"Falling away" or "apostasia" basic definition, means "to go away from", or "depart", or "change state or standing from one state to another". Only used one other time in the N.T. in Acts 21:21 to describe "forsaking", or "going a from" the teachings of Moses.
"Apostasion", the noun form, appears in Matt 5:31,19:7, and Mark 10:4 and describes a "writing of divorcement", or "papers that separate". (so someone can go away).
The Rapture was kept secret,until revealed to Paul
---michael_e on 3/22/10


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the 1st resurrection and rapture is completed at the 7th trumpet and is *not* pre trib

first a scripture from paul that warns against deception about this, inspired by God, who knew that the false pre trib rapture doctrine would rear it's head in the future

some say the "falling away" is the same as the rapture in an incredible twist of scripture to make it fit a pre trib rapture lie


However, look at the context,

Paul says, "I beseech you, brethren concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our *gathering together with him*..."

When are we going to be *GATHERED TOGETHER WITH HIM?*
---glen on 3/22/10


Paul says "Let no man deceive you by any means, for that day *WILL NOT COME*, except there come a falling away first and the man of sin be revealed.

What day?

Isn't this "that day" referring specifically to the *"coming of our Lord and our Gathering together with Him"?*

So if Paul says "LET NO ONE DECEIVE YOU THAT DAY isn't going to happen before the falling away and the man of sin is revealed, how can we say, the falling away IS THAT DAY?
---glen on 3/22/10


The rapture(catching away)as found in 1 Cor. 15, the same place you find the gospel whereby we are saved today. And 1 Thess. 4 are the two places that have any type of rapture language. As Paul says in Rom. 16:25, his revelation, was kept secret sine the beginning. Deut. 29:29 says God is allowed to keep secrets. A mystery(secret) is something not prophesied. That's the reason you don't find the language that Paul used anywhere else in the Book. Compare Acts 3:21 with Rom. 16:25 they are not the same.
---michael_e on 3/3/10


See "Pretrib Rapture Secrecy" on search engines like Google. Full of surprises! Jon
---Jon on 3/2/10


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TS made a good point about the left behind book series ...2 men wrote a fantastic fictional series about false doctrine and made a whole lot of money on their imaginations ...by bringing the tale of rapture to life in a series of fiction makes it that much more real to those who were duped into this false tradition that has no biblical proof using a verse that clearly indicates Christs return to earth ...if all the earth hear the trumpet - it's no secret
---Rhonda on 4/10/08


Amen.

Mat 24:30 "And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the SON OF MAN COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF THE SKY with power and great glory.
Mat 24:31 "And He will send forth His angels with A GREAT TRUMPET and THEY WILL GATHER TOGETHER His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.
---Samuel on 3/25/08


There is no secret to the Rapture. Its going to happen and the only secret involved is when it will happen. People get ready, because the hour is upon us. This is the last call for redemption. Repent before its too late.
---Tapanga on 3/24/08


No "secret rapture"
---duke on 12/15/07


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Pierre: Poof! Hey Where did everybody go? You are correct such is not the case according to the Bible and the Left Behind Series is a complete lie.
---TS on 12/6/07


No, the Bible makes it abundently clear that Jesus's coming is not a secret event! See: Rev. 1:7 "every eye shall see him" Math. 24:27 "his coming like lightning,
flashing across the sky" 1 Thes. "it will be an audible event "a loud command" and a "trumpet" blast, righteous delighted to see him come joyfully exclaim "Lo, this is
our God!"
---Pierre on 12/6/07


O cindy (no offense), you got it all wrong. The bible definitely show that there will be many converts to Chriatianity that will survive the great tribulation and be saved and seen in heaven. This, ofcourse, is after the first set of believers have already gone to heaven during the rapture. Read these progressively: Rev 7:9-14 (the first set, notice that the reference to "great tribulation" here is to this current era, not to the seven last years of greatest tribulation),
---Okebaram on 11/22/06


#2 Rev 14:6 shows the spread of the gospel, during the last seven years (the Great Tribulation), Rev 15:1-2 shows the Christians who die in during the Great Tribulation appear in heaven, just before Jesus returns. At these time, all Christians have been killed so there is none left on earth. So when Jesus returns, all on erath are evil.
---Okebaram on 11/22/06


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cindy, you are confusing Matt. 24 as speaking of the rapture when it is actually about the second coming. Those are seperate events.

Jared, I agree. Many are puting their focus in the wrong places. We need to focus on Christ and make sure we are living in a way that is pleasing to him, rapture or not.
---tofurabby on 11/22/06


Jack, if what you say is true then please explain to me why Jesus said, "Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come" (Mat 24:42) along with the other scriptures that tell us it will be a suprise? Surely there are 2 seperate events because we can know when the second coming will occur. the Bible clearly states that Jesus will return 1260 days from the moment the Antichrist sits in the Temple of God and declares himself to be God.
---tofurabby on 11/22/06


But even the believers have to go thru the tribulation for it says woe to the mothers and also, in the so called 'rapture' all the survivors will be caught in the air. That means the beleivers among the passed away that get resurrected. It says if God does not speed up time, no one will survive the tribualtion so there must be believers among them.
---cindy on 11/22/06


**if it were the second coming he would come all the way to the earth... no need to meet him in the air.**

That's that 1 Thess is talking about.

"Descend" means to go from up to down--not to do a U-turn in mid-air.

Jesus descends to earth. WE do the U-turn because we are caught up to meet him and escort Him as He returns.
---Jack on 11/22/06


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Jared, God bless you and your efforts. But you see, I know there is a rapture and hope you will understand this too, now or sometime. The truth, though, like you said is that nobody will successfully serve God because of fear of hell or desire for heaven or fear of future tribulation. The fact is people scarcely commit to stuff whose effect they cannot presently relate to.
---okebaram on 11/21/06


2# They may serve God for a while because of such, but it won't take long for that fear to wear out. Maybe 2 days. Love for God is the only reason that can stand as a primary reason to serve God. HOWEVER, some people WILL come to the church, say the sinner's prayer, give God a chance, etc. for fear of hell or longing for heaven, etc. and in the process fall in love with God and by His Spirit, replace their reason to serve God. [I wonder what these stuff I wrote has to do with the rapture :-)]
---okebaram on 11/21/06


I just think many people today are so for the rapture they have forgotten the Gospel. and I admit that I might be wrong about it. I don't think there will be, but If there is I'm sure Jesus will take me and surprise me since I'm his.
---Jared on 11/21/06


Quote: "Rapture is not in the bible you have all been swayed by teachers tickling your ears...this is unbiblical."

Sounds like you did say there will not be a rapture to me.
---tofurabby on 11/21/06


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What you all have used to support the rapture have many different interperetations, I am not saying that there will not be a rapture, who knows but God. I am saying that we cannot say for sure. And that we should not build our churches on it. I think we need to focus on Christ and his Kingdom today, not just in the future.
---Jared on 11/20/06


The Rapture is not another name for the Second Coming. The word rapture itself comes from the latin translations of the Greek harpazo meaning mean "to be caught up, or snatched away" (1 Thes. 4:17). caught up to meet the Lord in the air... if it were the second coming he would come all the way to the earth... no need to meet him in the air.
---tofurabby on 11/20/06


Nowhere in the Bible does it directly say the Church will go through the tribulation. Jesus did say, "Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh" (Matthew 24:44). The only time frame when believers would not be expecting Jesus to return would have to be before the tribulation. If we go through the tribulation, I think we will be anxiously watching and waiting for his return.
---tofurabby on 11/20/06


lastly, I dont see any scriptural evidence coming from your posts Jared. I gave you a blatantly obvious scripture reference. Rev 3:10 "I will keep thee from" or "out of".
---tofurabby on 11/20/06


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Rapture is not in the bible you have all been swayed by teachers tickling your ears. the Rapture (especially Pre trib) is an Idea that you will get out of persicution. this is unbiblical. Never does Jesus say blessed are those that believed so they would escape, but he said blessed are the persicuted. Why are they blessed because they have found peace in Christ. Rapture seperates (Us and them)and scares people (you might be left behind) This isn't Gospel.
---Jared on 11/20/06


It is only one of many that point to a rapture. But I guess, maybe not in Jared's world or the rest of those who look for mysterious metaphors in plainly written scriptures.
---tofurabby on 11/18/06


that still doesn't point to rapture. it points to strength and power of God to protect but not rapture.
---Jared on 11/16/06


Jared, Rev 3:10 "Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth."

The church of Philadelphia will be raptured out leaving behind the church of Laodicea which has fallen away or become apostate.
---tofurabby on 11/15/06


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Mrs Morgan how does that passage support the rapture? to me it talks about the coming kingdom whuch started in that generation and will be established fully when christ returns. nothing about rapture, which is a theory that started in the 19th century.
---Jared on 11/15/06


Jared, (Luke 21:29-36).
---Mrs._Morgan on 11/14/06


I find it very accurate, and where does the bible say that believers are going to taken out of the suffering? I find that a very questionable belief especially when Jesus and the Apostles all said to bless those who pursicute you.
---Jared on 11/14/06


Jared. "rapture is an emotion not an event". Where did you get that idea from Jared? Your statement is not in line with the Bible.
---Ramon on 11/13/06


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nope rapture means being caught up in context that means being "on Fire" for christ. the rapture is an emotion not an event.
---Jared on 11/13/06


(II Peter 3)
---Mrs._Morgan on 11/13/06


In my Father's house are many mansions. If it were not so I would have told you. Behold I go to prepare a place for you that were I am, there you may be also.
It's sad to see that the JW's have done such a fine job of convincing Christians they aren't going to heaven. Where did JOhn see the redeemed of the Lord worshipping around the throne? It was in heaven, not on earth.
---john on 11/13/06


No secret rapture if there was it would not be a secret, unless U mean the time is not known? Mt.24:29a Immediately AFTER the tribulation it goes on 85 words wont let me go all into it. U can read vs 30/31 I wont argue many believe we are raptured before the trib. I believe after for many reason. Many religions also believe the way I do, pre rapture is actually a newer view.But I refuse to argue because the word speaks for itself, God is his own Defense Attorney and doesnt need me to argue His case.
---Jeanne on 11/13/06


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1 John 3:2 Beloved, now are (we the sons of God) and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that(when he shall appear) we shall be like him(for we shall see him as he is)
---nc on 11/13/06


A "secret rapture" is not in the Bible. If you just stop and think about it, how on earth could the rapture be secret? I mean millions of Christians going up in the air!!! Just how would you keep that secret??
---Helen_5378 on 8/26/06


theres no such thing in the bible as a secret rapture as His second coming will be a world encircling event Mat24:30..all eyes will see Him Rev 1:7, Acts 11:9-11..also read Mat 24:26...He did say tho that He will come at an unknown time but not secretly....
---jana on 8/26/06


"Rapture" simply means our being gathered together ("caught up," if you like) to meet Christ..

WHEN it occurs in relation to other things that will happen at the Parousia is another issue.

My belief, in common with ALL Christians before 1830 or so, and most Christians world-wide since, is that 1 Thess refers to when the Lord returns TO EARTH. Nothing there about Him doing a U-turn in mid-air. Rather, WE are caught up to meet Him and escort Him back to earth.
---Jack on 5/30/05


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1Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first. Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
1Corinthians 15:50 Revelation 1:7
---Ulrika on 5/14/05


The signs of the end and the tribulation Matthew 24:3-29 Mark 13:5-25 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the unttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven. Matthew 24:30,31 Mark 13:26,27
---Ulrika on 5/14/05


There will be no rapture. The rapture is just a modern-day feel-good fantasy...to make modern-day Christians feel good. There are only two resurrections... a resurrection of the righteous and a resurrection of the wicked (Book of Revelation). The rapture is a resurrection (of the righteous), and so is the Second Coming...this would be two resurrections of the righteous. The rapture, therefore, will not happen. And Jesus spoke of only one resurrection of the righteous. T
---Richard on 4/22/05


Second coming of Christ Jesus would be a surprised descend that requires us to be prepared to see His descend in Glory and Splendor. The question is: Are you ready and sure that you will not be left behind when others are taken up to be with Him.
---Pek on 4/14/05


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The concept of "a thief in the night" has to do with being unannounced (suprise), not unnoticed (secret).
---Bruce5656 on 4/14/05


The bible does say that Jesus will come as a 'thief in the night.'
---gregg on 4/13/05


Of course the Rapture won't be secret. If you're in the middle of a conversation with someone, and that person suddenly disappears, you're going to know it. There will just be no warning. When Scripture talks about the trump sounding, I like to think it will be a sound that only the believers will hear. Then after approx. 7 years, Christ will return for His millenial reign, and final battle & judgment.
---Ann5758 on 4/13/05


Excuse me Pierre, but don't you speak of the coming of Christ AFTER the 'catching away of the saints' and the 7 year Tribulation? That is my understanding of the Rapture when the saints are taken off the earth while the anti-christ rules, then Jesus comes back for ALL to see. IMHO
---Kathay on 4/13/05


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Rebecca_D, your right, the word Rapture is not found in the Bible's we read. But Caught Up is, which means the same thing. Plus Falling Away is Also the Rapture. Some people think the second comimg is the Rapture, but it is not. The first coming of Jesus was when he came to earth and was killed, the second is when he comes back for Armageddon. During the Rapture Jesus does not touch his feet on the ground, He calls us up to Him.
---a_friend on 4/12/05


There are two separate events. One is the Second Coming of Jesus the other is the catching away of the Saints living and dead.

It is true the Bible does not use the word Rapture yet the catching away that it means will occur.

The next main events on God's calendar is the Rapture of the Believers, The Great Tribulation and then the Second Coming, in that order.
---Elder on 4/12/05


Do you mean you wish to secure your rapture when it happens? Or you wish to know how you can be sure you will be taken up when the rapture is come? The Bible certainly teaches about rapture. Jesus mentioned that. Check in Matthew.
---Pek on 4/12/05


If you mean secret as in nobody knows when it will happen, yes. Matthew 25:13, "Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh."
If you mean, it will happen with out the knowledge of the unsaved. No. Matthew 24:40-41, "Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left."
---Bruce5656 on 4/12/05


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There is no "secret rapture". The bible only speaks of the second coming of Christ. The word "rapture" doesn't occur in the bible.
---Rebecca_D on 4/12/05


i think a secrect rapture is possible but i would encourage you to search on the subject of john darby, i think the 3 comings doctrine is very perplexing to me but yes if the bible teaches a rapture then it is true but a public one and not a serect one
---michelle on 4/12/05


The word rapture is a word man made up for the coming of the Lord. It's not a secret that it will take place, however no one knows the day or the hour.
---Katie on 4/12/05


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