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God Will Roast The Wicked

Is it true that God will "roast" the wicked in an eternal hell fire for ever and ever?

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***Old Testament we have the record of Sodom and Amorah to teach us of God's future judgment**

Peter 2:6
Perfect examples demonstrating that there is NO "ETERNAL ROASTING" FIRE because these cities are not "on fire" today
---Rhonda on 3/18/08


2)
...the punishment for these cities was eternal and mankind has evidence of this today because these cities no longer exist

Sodam and Gomorrah are not ON FIRE TODAY - just like these cities were burned up and CONSUMED BY FIRE ...this will be true for those who do not receive salvation it will be exactly like these cities burned up consumed NOT everlasting roasting
---Rhonda on 3/18/08


1st Cliff, In the Old Testament we have the record of Sodom and Amorah to teach us of God's future judgment in Genesis 19:1-29. You can also find it recorded in Isaiah 34:4,8-10.
---Eloy on 3/16/08


No way, God would not roast no one, he is a loving God, The wicked will burn in fire yes, but not forever and ever. They will be arches. He will destroy bouth body and soul. He loves us to much to do something like that forever and ever. Read the hold book off revelation and you will see, Gods will for all. He wants all to have life for ever and ever.
---winna on 5/25/06


Someone once said (with interesting scriptural proof) that heaven and hell are the identical experience: the full force of God's love, with nothing to distact us from it, as we have today.

For those who have acquired the love of God in their souls in this life, it will be bliss unending. For those whose hearts are far from Him, it will as coals of fire upon their heads, making them weep, wail, and gnash their teeth.

Think about it!
---Jack on 5/29/05




John Chrysostom (4th century expository preacher) once said in a sermon, "You ask what hell is and where, but why do you want to know? Let's not search out where it lies hidden. Let's see how to avoid it."

As CSLewis said, if you really want to know about hell firsthand, don't worry; you will. Whether you like the answer is another matter.
---Jack on 5/29/05


Bruce, I read the comments that you referred me to but unfortunately I was not able to make any sense out of them. Nor could I find an association between the texts and the activity of Jesus while in the grave. As for Luke 16 it is a parable. A parable is a short, usually fictitious story that illustrates a moral attitude or religious principle. The point Jesus was trying to make had nothing to do with the location of the lost or saved who had died. He was illustrating that those who aren't interested in truth won't "hear" it regardless of the evidence.
---Robin on 4/22/05


Elder, It's called the 2nd death because it follows the 1st. Rev. 20:6,14; Rev 21:8. Death=cessation of all vital functions, end of life, extinction. The saved don't live on at death, they are resurrected at Jesus 2nd coming.
Why not live as we want on this earth? This question reveals your motive for living a Christian life--earn heaven, avoid hell. Personally, I love God's law and would live it regardless of heaven or hell. "everlasting punishment" means the 2nd death by fire is permanent. No 3rd resurrection.
---Robin on 4/22/05


Elder; If it's not about evangelism, or why their destinations...just what is the "gist"'of this whole narrative? So I made a mistake of how many "truths",not surprizing,I make lots of them, an oldtimer once told me "those who don't make mistakes don't make anything!"
---1st_cliff on 4/21/05


Bruce; I'll try,It may take a little time because I have to do this before breakfast( I still work 5 days a week)or better yet I'll post it on saturday morning O K?
---1st_cliff on 4/21/05




helen, "roast" might not be the best choice of a word to describe God's judgment- it sounds a little like dinner. Perhaps "burn" would be better, but definitely not "fry", fried food is unhealthy.
---Eloy on 4/21/05


Now Cliff...... how about you tell us why people go to Heaven or Hell. What is it that makes the difference?

This portion of Scripture is not about evangelism.

You tell us why you think these two men went to different places and then tell us why that is so important in these verses?

Why they went does not change the truth (there's that word again) of this passage.

PS. I used that word Truth four times in my last post not three. So if you could miss that do you think you may have missed something in Luke also?
---Elder on 4/21/05


Hell is a holding place until the judgement comes. 2 Peter 2:4. Hell and the Lake of fire is not the same thing. In Rev 20:12-15 it talks about the dead and hell were both delivered up into the lake of fire. Dead- meaning spiritual dead, hell- the people who died without Jesus will be in the lake of fire. It is an everlasting fire. Mark 9:43-48. Jesus didn't lay in the tomb or grave for 3 days. he went into hell to preach. Mt 12:40.
---Rebecca_D on 4/21/05


Friends
The lessons of the parabole RM+L: 1.For Jews,riches sign of God's favor and poverty one of his displeasure. However, rich man, ends up in hell and the poor msn in heaven. L: riches gained through greed, dishonesty etc are not a sign of His blessing. 2: The meaning of the great gulf between heaven and hell: that our lives determine our eterna destination,that there is no 2nd chance after death. 3 Jews were always asking for signs but when they got them they would not appeciate it/them, leading to the conclusion: one more sign would not help them either!
---Pierre on 4/20/05


Cliff,
Please don't keep us in suspense. Enlighten us!
---Bruce5656 on 4/20/05


Elder; You mentioned "truth" 3 times in your post, but, neither you or Bruce say what the truth is about WHY the rich man went to hell or WHY Laserus went to heaven! What is the "object lesson" of this illustration?
---1st_cliff on 4/20/05


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Robin why is it called the Second Death? What is the meaning of Death? If the wicked cease to be at death the how does the Saved live on?

Death is separation. There are two separations, Physical and Spiritual. Again I must send you back to my statement about the False Prophet and Beast being in Hell for 1000 years. They did not burn up nor did they cease to exist. Again Luke 16 is true also.

If the punishment is but for a moment why not live any way we want on this earth?

How do you explain the everlasting punishment in Matt 25:46?
---Elder on 4/20/05


Robin,

Please refer to the Blog WHEN DOES YOUR BODY DIE. It is on the first list of Blogs on the left side about 3/4 of the way down. You will find there an extensive (if not comprehensive)9 part answer to your question about Jesus being active while His flesh lay in the grave.
---Bruce5656 on 4/20/05


Even if Luke 16 is a Parable it still reveals the Truth.

A parable is an illustrated story with a Spiritual application. So what Truth was Jesus trying to get across to us if this is just a parable?

There is no way around the fact of the matter that the Truth stands. Accept it or reject it that changes nothing concerning the Truth of the statements that Jesus made in this passage.
---Elder on 4/20/05


Bruce5656--how do you reach the conclusion that Jesus was very active while His flesh lay in the grave?

Elder--I agree with you that the punishment of the wicked & Satan is forever... The 2nd death is permanent. However the punishing ends with their death.
---Robin on 4/20/05


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By the way, I do know that the man in torment sure knew the value of a drop of water on his tongue. In the place he was, a drop of water (living water) was the most valuable thing he could have asked for himself and help for his brothers was the most wonderful thing he could have asked for.
---curious on 4/19/05


So, now Cliff, why don't you tell us what Jesus was trying to tell us with this story?
---Bruce5656 on 4/19/05


PART ONE:
The story has many lessons. One of the most important is that the Word of God has the ability to bring conviction in the hearts of the unsaved more so than even someone being raised from the dead to tell what fate awaits the unconverted.
Other lessons:
Barnes listed these: (1) the souls of men do not die with their bodies; (2) the soul is conscious after death; (3) the righteous go to a place of happiness, the wicked to a place of misery; (4) we should not envy the rich.
---Bruce5656 on 4/19/05


PART TWO:
Cox listed these: (1) we should not live in luxury while Lazarus begs at our gate; (2) the selfish use of wealth will bring torment beyond the grave; (3) memory will not be obliterated by death; (4) to prevent a great gulf from separating us from Lazarus in the hereafter, we should take care to see that the gulf is not there now; (5) if the ordinary means of grace cannot reach us, we need not expect the extraordinary; (6) he who is lost in death is lost eternally; (7) God's word is sufficient to save men.
---Bruce5656 on 4/19/05


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I like the way Adam Clark (Adam Clark Commentary) put it: "This account... is either a parable or a real history. If it be a parable, it is what may be: if it be a history, it is that which has been. Either a man may live as is here described, and go to perdition when he dies; or, some have lived in this way, and are now suffering the torments of an eternal fire. The account is equally instructive in whichsoever of these lights it is viewed."

Jesus used real people, circumstances and things, not fanciful stories that have no basis in fact or real life, to teach his lessons.
---Bruce5656 on 4/19/05


Cliff it is not so much as to what the rich man did as to what he didn't do. We can get an idea what he didn't do from Luke 16:27-31.

He didn't listen to Moses and the Prophets when they told him how to excape this place.

I wonder how many we come in contact with today that don't listen.
---Elder on 4/19/05


Bruce since you brought it up, what is the moral of the story(Laserus and the rich man) what did the rich man do that merritted him a burning hell?,what was Laserus' redeeming qualities that merritted him heaven? Taking this parable "litterally" means you don't understand why Jesus told it!..Strange as it may seem it has nothing to do with heaven or hell!.....what the scriptures say and what you think it says is not always that simple.
---1st_cliff on 4/19/05


Bruce5656 You did it again you said all those things that I wish I'd said.
Great input! I shall put your thoughts in my memory bank.

God Bless your effort.
---Elder on 4/19/05


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Robin when we seek to learn what Scripture is speaking about we must resign ourselves to engage in "Word Studies." There are many meanings of certain words in the Bible that may not be in accordance with our understanding of them today.

When we get involved with the word "Ashes" we find many things.
Cond #2-->
---Elder on 4/19/05


Cond #2-->
1. The Practical side; The ashes on the alter of burnt offering were removed each morning by a Priest clad in linen. The only person who is worthy and able to remove Satan is Jesus our High Priest.

2. The Figurative side; It was the custom to burn captured cities to reduce then to a place of ashes. This expression is understood to mean a complete destruction causing the threat to be gone forever.
Cond #3--->
---Elder on 4/19/05


Cond #3--->
3. Another meaning that was used meant scattered, perishable and/or worthless.

You can apply any of the meanings to the Eze passage you quote. It does not change the fact of Satan and lost sinners punishment is forever nor does it negate the Revelation verses that I shared to prove a long period of punishment.
Cond #4---->
---Elder on 4/19/05


Cond #4---->
Some Bible teachers and commentators state that the passage in Eze that you use refer to a literal King living in that day due to the religious and cultural context and practices of that day.

The bottom line is Satan will be punished forever.
---Elder on 4/19/05


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Bruce5656
I am learning through this exercice that words which look he same do not necessarily mean the same.Ex. ETERNAL life = life without end, ETERNAL fire = which burns up/to ashes the wicked, which burnt up Sodom/Gomorrah but no longer is burning. DEAD: spiritually dead (hopeless but not breathless) or physically dead (breathless but not hopeless). Forever: for as long as there is life (service of slave and Samuel) and time Jonah spent in the fish (limited but seeming endless to him. DOES THIS HELP?
---Pierre on 4/19/05


ELOY:
I am happy to report to you that you have helped me to see two kinds of "dead" people. Those who are physically dead=breathless,and those who are spiritually dead=hopeless. In Math:8:21-22 my commentary tells me that the exp "let me...father" means: Let me wait until I first receive my inheritance. As for the exp. "Let the dead...their own dead" means: Let the spiritually dead take care of mundane things.
---Pierre on 4/19/05


As stated, there are many breathing dead people. Scripture reads, "Another one of his disciples said to him, Lord, allow me to go first and bury my father. But Jesus said to him, Follow me, and let the dead bury their dead." Matthew 8:21,22.
---Eloy on 4/19/05


PART ONE:
I have never understood the terms "eternal life" as having to do with quantity (duration) as much as it is about quality (the type of life that God has). Time seems to be a mortal concept and God seems to exist outside of any time constraints. Gen. 1:1, 2 Peter 3:8, "Eternal Life" is existing with God. I Thess. 4:17 Hence, "Eternal Death" is existing with out God. This is expressed in terms that we can understand like "forever" or "eternity" (but then again, who can comprehend "forever"?)
---Bruce5656 on 4/19/05


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PART TWO:
It is pretty much impossible for us to conceive of an existence with out linearity (one thing following after another). Rev 21 Describes Heaven as a place where there is no more need of a sun or moon and where there is no night. Obviously a very different type of existence than that which we know here.
---Bruce5656 on 4/19/05


PART THREE:
Jesus DID die on the cross. He did not "just change forms". He was a MAN subjected to physical torture and execution and DEATH. He continued to exist after his death, he did not "sleep". He did not cease to exist. He was very active while his flesh lay in a tomb and he was reunited with his glorified physical body after 3 days.
---Bruce5656 on 4/19/05


PART FOUR:
He is the "first fruit", the pattern which we will follow eventually should Jesus tarry. We will die, we will be conscious though our flesh is dead, and we will be reunited with a glorified body. I Thess. 4:14-18, Rom 8:17
---Bruce5656 on 4/19/05


PART FIVE:
It is important to understand that Jesus did what he to bring about our salvation as a MAN. Jesus repeatedly described himself as "the son of man" Matt 8:20 is only one of many examples. , He is still described today, as the "Son of Man" Acts 7:56, Rev 1:13 etc, for that is the condition that he has taken upon himself so that he might redeem us. Phil 2:6-8 The Creator became a creature. Only the perfect MAN could be the sacrifice for fallen man. Only a man could bleed and die. Heb 9:22
---Bruce5656 on 4/19/05


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Jesus spoke of the world as already being "dead" so dead does not mean cease to exist. Matthew 8:22. It is a mistake to put the one meaning (cease to exist physically) on both physical and spiritual death.
---Bruce5656 on 4/19/05


Someone correct me if I am wrong here, but doesn't the fact that Jesus named names in the story of Lazarus indicate that it was not a parable at all but a true story? Can any one cite an example of a parable in which Jesus used real names?
---Bruce5656 on 4/19/05


Cliff ... My dictionary has "lack of spiritual life" as one of the definitions of death.
---Alan_of_U.K. on 4/19/05


Elder: Let me answer your question to me with an illustration. Most of us like action movies in which a "hero" rescues the victims of a vicious villian by destroying him. I think of God in the same way. Though He takes no pleasure in the destruction of the wicked. It is necessary for the good of the universe. Torturing the wicked throughout eternity serves no good purpose. By the way, you avoided explaining how the wicked and the devil are going to be alive forever in hell yet be reduced to ashes. Are we suppose to discount the texts which say the wicked will be ashes?
---Robin on 4/19/05


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Alan;You have to be "alive" to have a "coscious existance" and "death" is the "absence of life" is it not? Does the bible say the wages of sin is existance in another form? One of the attributes of God is "mercey"(kindness to excess...Websters)
---1st_cliff on 4/19/05


Surely, "life" as used in these passages does not mean "existence"

"Life" means LIFE .. knowing or being with God.

"Death" means existence without God.
---Alan_of_U.K. on 4/19/05


Pierre, the unsaved are dead, eventhough they breathe. The Archangel Michael will sound the trump "And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth will awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. Then will he say also to them on the left hand, Depart from me, you all cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels. And these will go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal." Daniel 12:2; Matthew 25:41,46.
---Eloy on 4/19/05


cont. part 2: "And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works." Revelation 20:12.
---Eloy on 4/19/05


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Cliff I used the word "was" to prove the fact that Luke 16 is not just a parable. Don't fall off the edge when there are so many limbs available to cling to.

Pierre I have not tried to "Correct" you. I have only shared with you.

Read my statements and search the references I have already gave and you will have the Scripture verses and chapters you want plus your answers.
---Elder on 4/18/05


So conistent that Jesus will never die again because He finished the work the first time and there is no need for another sacrifice. He made an end to the oblation and sacrifices by being the perfect, once for all and for all time, Lamb both before the world began, while it was established, and after every single bit of it has passed away not only in the heavens but also in the earth.
---Linda_Smith on 4/18/05


That is God's everlasting to everlasting, something that cannot, does not, and will not ever change, something (someone) so vastly consistent that it (He) is a sure foundation that will never shake or crack. How consistent is that Lamb slain?
---Linda_Smith on 4/18/05


When God the Father says from everlasting to everlasting, He is talking about something that always was and always is and always will be. In other words, He speaks of the redemptive work of Christ, who He is and what He did. God's sovereign choice is Jesus and when we choose Him, there is agreement. Even one who has received Christ and been accepted in the Beloved is considered "chosen in Him from before the foundation of the world." In other words, in the mind of God you have always been in that Lamb slain where He drew all men not only unto but into Himself.
---Linda_Smith on 4/18/05


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If I go from one destination to another destination, then there is a beginning and an end. The only thing in the mind of God that was before the foundation of the world and eternally present and eternally future is that Lamb slain. Jesus said it like this, "I AM the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last, the Alpha and the Omega; He who was and who is and who is to come, the Almighty." That pretty much sums it all up.
---Linda_Smith on 4/18/05


"Psa 41:13 Blessed be the LORD God of Israel from everlasting, and to everlasting. Amen, and Amen."

It appears to me that God, being eternal, does not view time as we do. In this Scripture, He says "from" everlasting, and "to" everlasting. Now we look at that and say, "Well, there must be a limit on everlasting if you can go "from" everlasting "to" everlasting."
---Linda_Smith on 4/18/05


ELDER: Sorry you did not use THE WORD to correct me.
ELOY: Let us assume that you are right, that forever means forever (not for a limited time), the wicked would then suffer forever. For them to suffer they would have to be "concious" (have feelings or be alive BUT the
Bible says the wages of sin is death, not etenal life (to suffer forever and ever). Only the saved will enjoy eternal life!!!
Do you see the problem here!
---Pierre on 4/18/05


#2 Think of it this way then; Christ died for us (but He didn't really die, just changed form) wages of sin is "death'( not so ,just life in another environment) the gift of God is "eternal life"( not so everyone gets eternal life somewhere).
---1st_cliff on 4/18/05


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Elder;#1 I'm not going to belabor the point further,just a couple of "observations" I'm not a member,nor do I subscribe to any religious organization,cult or ism!My findings are from personal research.I'm not swayed by public "opinion". It's hard to believe that one would embrace a whole doctrine on the one word, "was",when a whole system exists,based on the "original lie" that satan told Eve"you will not surely die". cont...
---1st_cliff on 4/18/05


Pierre, scripture nowhere states that the burning bush stopped burning, so it could very well still be burning. A sure way to know whould be to climb Mount Horeb and look for it. When scripture says for ever, it means for ever, "the smoke of their torment will acend for ever and ever". The Scripture reads that hell is eternal just as heaven is eternal, not finite. But you are absolutely free to believe whatever you choose, whether truth or error.
---Eloy on 4/18/05


Robin would you explain to us if the same God is speaking in Eze 28:18-19 that is speaking in Eze 28:22-23. What do you think of Him?
---Elder on 4/18/05


Pierre it is the inhabitants that Jude is speaking of.

The Bible tells us to study to show ourselves approved.

You must understand the Soul of man, the Righteousness of God, the effect of sin, the rejection of Jesus, the place of the wicked, the length of cleansing, the power of the Blood, what punishment means plus a host of other things.

As I said before there is not enough space here to teach you. You must seek on your own if you want to know the Truth. Don't follow doctrine from someone who was a known con-man or false cults like the JWs.
---Elder on 4/18/05


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It seems that many people are hung up on the word "forever." This seems to be a problem only when it is used in reference to hell.
Consider Exodus 21:6 (speaking of slaves)"...then his master shall pierce his ear with an awl and he shall serve him forever." Is this slave still serving the master? Or 1 Sam 1:22,28 Hannah states that she will take Saumuel to the temple to serve the Lord and he would remain there "forever." and that he was lent to the Lord "as long as he shall live."
---Robin on 4/18/05


ELDER:
I hope I quoted you correctly.
4.11 to CON #3 nd #4 I read that you agree that S+G were burned THAT WAY. What is THAT WAY according to the WORD:destruction by ETERNAL FIRE which no longer burns today!
4.17 to CON 4: I read that "for a 1000 yrs they BURNED (past tense + limited). The fire did not burn them up..." Comment: I believe that this is a future event BUT when it will happen the Bible says NOTHING about the wicked burning for a 1000 yrs. It does point to their complete destruction. If I am wrong show be by CH+V.Respectfully yours!
---Pierre on 4/18/05


Eloy: I respect you even if I disagree with you. Question based on your statment:" it (the bush) WAS forever burning" Is the bush still burning today? NO! So,as I pointed out earlier, FOREVER means for a limited time only!Then you quote:"the fishes walls were surrounding him FOREVER...UNTIL HE REPENTED..." Don't you see that this expression again = A LIMITED TIME? If it did not Jonah would still be in the fish FOREVER.The same woul be true for Samuel who was sent to the temple to serve FOREVER. He is not there now, is he? Conclusion: FOREVER = A LIMITED TIME.
---Pierre on 4/18/05


As for burning for eternity in hell, let me suggest to you the "burning bush" that Moses seen upon the Mountain, it was forever burning, but not being consumed. That is by God. So likewise it should not be too difficult to believe in a lake of fire that will burn forever and never be extinguished., especially when Jesus himself and also the holy Prophets said so.
---Eloy on 4/18/05


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Pierre, the word "for ever" literally means "for always". So when the slave chose to stay and serve his master for ever, that's what it means, he is now permanently part of his master's house, and will be also as he chose in the afterlife. And Samson offered to God as a servant for ever is the same, he is still serving him in heaven. And Jonah, the fishes walls were surrounding him for ever (ie: for always) with no escaping- until he repented, then "...yet have you brought up my life from corruption, O YHWH my God." Jonah 2:6.
---Eloy on 4/18/05


Elder: You state that Satan will burn forever. How then do you explain Ezekiel 28:18,19 "...and I turned you to ashes upon the earth...and shall be no more forever" (if you read verses 13-19 it is pretty clear that these verses refer to Lucifer. Also how can you be attracted to a god that would burn people forever? Even the most hideously evil human being wouldn't do that. Satan would love to convince us that God is like that.
---Robin on 4/18/05


Pierre, read what I said.
I never said the two cities were burned with eternal fire. To say such a thing would indeed be foolish for the fire and brimstone that destroyed them went out a long time ago.

The inhabitants are being punished in eternal fire according to Jude.

It is apparent that you did not read the Scripture references I gave or you would have read in the Revelation passages exactly what I said about the 1000 years.

Either Eternal means Eternal or it means just a little while. In my Greek studies I can find nowhere that it means a little while.
---Elder on 4/17/05


ELDER:
Kindly think deeply before you respond. You agree that Sodom and Gomorrah were consumed by an ETERNAL FIRE.Jude 7, BUT you say "the souls of them that lived there are still suffering eternal fire. There is not one iota of proof for your claim in these texts but just in case I missed it point it out to me in your response. You contimue "for 1000 years they burned....still there>" and "did not burn up..." Please give me chapter and verse for your claim. Thanks. Note the ETERNAL FIRE = one whose effect is eternal,which totally consumes forever!
---Pierre on 4/17/05


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Cliff there is not time nor space here to convince you or anyone else to the fact of punishment of the unsaved if you have your mind made up. Your statements sound like classic JW doctrine.

I cite Luke 16:19-31 and you and others will state that it is "just a Parable" You will make that statement in error I might add. The word "was" proves this is not a parable. The statement "tormented in this flame" proves there is flame and torment. These things are not so in a grave.
Cond #2-->
---Elder on 4/17/05


Cond #2-->
Some passages but not all are translated grave, place of departed spirits and place of punishment.

The Christians Rewards can be burned up in and matter of short time. It is not so with the wicked soul that will be punished forever. Hell was made for the Devil and his angels.
Cond #3--->
---Elder on 4/17/05


Cond #3--->
Someone made reference to Sodom and Gomorrha being burned to ashes and done with. Yes, the two cities were concluded just that way but the souls of them that lived there are still suffering eternal fire according to Jude 7-13.
Cond #4---->
---Elder on 4/17/05


Cond #4---->
In Revelation 19:20 the beast and false prophet are thrown into the Lake of Fire.

In Rev 20:1-10 Satan was bound, loosed and later retaken and cast into the Lake of Fire where the beast and false prophet ARE.

For a Thousand years they burned in torment and we see them still there. The fire did not burn them up as some suggest and try to teach.

We see in verse 15 more being cast into the Lake. In Rev 21:8 we have a list of who they are.
---Elder on 4/17/05


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To Robin:
Very good selection of texts to make your point. Thank you and God bless!
---Pierre on 4/17/05


Malachi 4:1-3 The wicked will be stubble, ashes under our feet, they will burn up. Psalm 37:10 The wicked shall be no more. Psalm 37 20 The wicked shall perish and vanish away. Jude 7 & 2 Pet 2:6 Sodom and Gomorrah are an example of suffering the vengeance of eternal fire & are not still burning, they were reduced to ash. More texts to consider: Matt 3:11,12; Rev 20:9; Isa 47:14; As for the text that says they will burn forever... you may want to consider other texts that use the term "forever." Exodus 21:6; 1 Sam 1:22,28
---Robin on 4/17/05


YES!! it is true
---Megg on 4/17/05


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