angels and humans are two completely seperate classes. we can't become angels. also, if a baby dies, it stands before God with a full lifetime of memories that it never had, but remembers anyway. the "baby" is judged according to whether it would have accepted Jesus if it had lived, and it remembers making that decision, even though it hadn't happened. |
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---curt on 2/3/08 |
Sure we will meet babies, but they will not be babies they will be perfect human beings, at the prime of their life. But they will not be angels scripture doesn't support that myth. Angels are angels and humans are humans. That is what we are and will always be. |
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---Jared on 5/1/07 |
greetings.Looking back to childhood when a life was cut short by an early death and the child had not yet announced the great decision to be like his Father there is judgement for that child to live again so that in a short while a decision will be made to live or perish based upon a mature decision of the child's age in which it is made.Everyone who can make the life decision will have such a chance even though the lives of many young is cut short.We are all given at least one talent. |
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---earl on 5/1/07 |
Human babies would never be angels, as angels are a different species from humans. As per Ps. 8:5 we, humans, were created a little lower than the angels. I believe that children, babies, would be in their heavenly body as they would have been as a mature human being, but I can't think of any biblical reference to this. |
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---Hanny on 5/1/07 |
No, mankind and angels are two different creations, the Bible makes no mention of us exchanging. In Genesis some angels came down and took human wives,but God rebuked them, that will never happen again! Good Question though. |
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---Mrs._Morgan on 7/27/06 |
Zechariah 8:5
And the streets of the city shall be full of boys and girls playing in the streets thereof.
The context is talking about the New Jerusalem, that is, the world to come. |
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---Jack on 6/30/06 |
David believed he would see his deceased baby son again." But now that he is dead, wherefore should I fast? Can I bring him back again? I shall go to him, be he shall not return to me." II Samuel 12:23. But angels are not, nor were they ever, human. They were created by God to be what they are, mighty and powerful messengers of God.As described in the Bible, they in no way resemble the chubby winged cherubs our culture has given us. |
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---Donna2277 on 6/29/06 |
Reading these blogs saddens me, it is so true: Satan comes but to kill, steal and destroy. His only weapon is deceit! He will try to kill you, by killing the word and thereby destroying our relationship to The Lord! Study people to show thyself approved. |
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---Michael on 6/29/06 |
People (of any age) no more become angels when they die, then a dog becomes a cat when it dies. I don't know any instructed Christian who believes this. Referring to "our dear angel" is intended as an expression of loving memory, and nothing more.
St. Paul says in 1 Cor 13, "Now we see through a glass darkly, but then [in heaven] face to face...I shall know even as now I am known." This suggests that we will recognied our loved ones in the world to come. |
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---Jack on 5/28/05 |
Cliff, Paul covers that in his letter to the Romans. Those of us who accept his writings as a legitimate part of scriputre have our answer. |
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---Bruce5656 on 5/17/05 |
Mark 12:24-27 |
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---Ulrika on 5/1/05 |
Alan;My understanding of "born again" is different than the fundamentalist Christian,so you have the problem of Jesus saying "unless a man is born again,he cannot enter the Kingdom of heaven" which would mean that all those who lived in the remote parts of the earth,never hearing the gospel, would be shut out. right? |
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---1st_cliff on 4/23/05 |
When the new heaven and the new earth is sat up yes there will be children and babies. But as for now, when one dies they sleep and await the resurection. Acts 2:34, a man after God's own heart read it, where is he? This was written after Jesus was crucified, would Paul lie? Ecclesiastes 9:5, tell me what the dead knows? Then if you have time tell me where in the Bible it shows anyone that has accended to heaven after they died. All that are dead are sleeping and awaiting the time of the resurection. Matt. |
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---matth3369 on 4/23/05 |
Elaine ... I find it difficult to understand how, for example the person who has only ever heard the Hindhu faith can have had the knowledge of the Cross. |
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---Alan_of_U.K. on 4/23/05 |
Cliff ... the 1st century Christians had no physical way, nor the numbers, to get to all the nations of the world. They managed parts of the Nediterranean countires, but they would not have been even aware of say Australasia. |
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---Alan_of_U.K. on 4/23/05 |
Michelle. what about the scripture that says "the worm shall never die"? the worm refers to the consciousness. |
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---abby on 4/23/05 |
Alan, God is just, merciful, righteous and loving. We can trust Him. Romans 1:18-20 The wrath of God is revealed from Heaven against all ungodliness and wickedness of men who by their wickedness suppress the truth. For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them, Ever since the creation of the world his invisible nature,namely His eternal power and deity, has been clearly perceived in the things that have been made so they are without excuse.
Tho some have not been "told", they know, because GOD put the knowledge of Himself in every man. |
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---Elaine on 4/22/05 |
Alan;Jesus said in the 1st century"go therefore into all the nations....make disciples".. If no one heeded the call who's responsable?? In O T days nations took "communal responsabilities" IE,.If a nation bans Christians,then they are "communally" responsable for the lives (temporal or eternal) of their citizens! and of course their own. The bible is full of examples where God dealt with nation and not "individuals" , what makes it different today? |
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---1st_cliff on 4/19/05 |
I don't think that babies are angels in heaven with wings. But, I do beleive that my two babies I lost before birth are there in heaven being treated like angles. It is no told anywhere in the bible that I know of. I know in my heart that my loving Father has special places for us all! |
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---penny on 4/19/05 |
Yes Cliff ... but it says "When I say to a wicked man "You shall surely die"
What about people who live in places where the word of God has never been told. Has God still said to those people that the will surely die?
And what of places, which still exist, where "we" have not been and cannot go, and which we may not even know about? If you go back a few centuries there were many of those |
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---Alan_of_U.K. on 4/19/05 |
Alan;The answer to your question is found at EZ.3.18"When I say to a wicked man'You will surely die'and you do not warn him or speak out to disuade him from his evil ways in order to save his life,that wicked man will die for his sin,and I will hold you accountable for his blood" |
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---1st_cliff on 4/17/05 |
Ist Cliff ... are those who never heard about Jesus to be thrown into lakes of fire, brimstone. gnashing of teeth, just because they happened to live in a place where the story was never broadcast?
Or because we did not tell them? That seems wrong, that God would condemn those who were not told, when the condemnation should be of those who failed to tell.
But then, we cannot appreciate the perfection of God's love and the purity of His judgment |
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---Alan_of_U.K. on 4/17/05 |
babies are in Heaven! <>< they where/are as much as important than any of us. |
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---monique on 4/16/05 |
Babies will stand before God with a full lifetime of memories it never had & be judged on things that never happened' Curt, I think you watch too much science fiction or something. I'm sure that we would all appreciate your scriptural references to back up this theory. |
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---F.F. on 4/16/05 |
Do you have any scripture to back up your opinions Curt?
Pardon me, but that thinking is way off the wall! I delivered 2 stillborn children, both at about 8 months gestation. They never had a chance to sin. God is a God of love and doesn't punish for what one 'might have done.' They will be waiting in heaven for me. |
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---NV_Barbara on 4/16/05 |
Elder,(amigo mio) Can you give scriptural support for saying that all babies are innocent and safe? and that one is only responsable "after learning about christ" That would mean that (before missionaries) the hordes of Outer Mongolia, the Pygmies of Africa,Aztecs and Incas etc...etc.. are all "safe" Why send missionaries? |
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---1st_cliff on 4/16/05 |
Angels are not dead human beings, they are a totally different creation of God. It has become something of a superstition that when babies die they become angels. It is mainly non-Christians (those who go to church for Christenings, weddings and funerals only) who believe things like this and it seems to give them a false comfort to think these things. Curt where-ever did you read such things, it all sounds totally ridiculous to me. |
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---Xanthi on 4/16/05 |
Hanny is correct Humans are Humans and Angels are ANgels.
No matter what illusions Satan sends to men as visions..to keep his lie. No babies or no one can become angels. Angels were meant to serve us,but we were Not made to serve or worship them only God alone shall we serve. Satan told Eve.
YOU shall NOT surely die but become as God.
God did say that many would believe a Lie, this is true.
When we die we have no conscience of anything..for we remember nothing as we reconnect to the father in rest,until Judgement day.
Blessings
Michelle |
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---Michelle on 4/16/05 |
"Then little children were brought to him, that he would put hands upon them and pray, and the disciples blamed them. But Jesus said to them, Let little children come to me and you all oppose them not, for of such is the kingdom of heaven. 15 Then when he had put upon them hands, he went from thereat." Matthew 19:13-15. |
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---Eloy on 4/15/05 |
Babies are born sinners but they are born innocent. They are "safe" in Christ.
When a person comes to the knowledge of being a sinner then they become responsible for what they do with Christ.
It has been said by some that since we will be like Christ everyone in Heaven will be about 33 years old. We do not have Scripture proof of that.
Also there is absolutely no Scripture reference to what Curt has said past his first two sentences. |
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---Elder on 4/15/05 |
Curt,
That sounds very fanciful and totally unfounded in scripture. Where did you get such and idea? |
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---Bruce5656 on 4/15/05 |
I want to share an interesting story with you. My pastor's wife had a miscarriage many years ago and recently she had a vision and saw a beautiful young man in heaven who had the face like the pastor and looked similar to her son. The Lord showed here it was her first born that was miscarried and he was raised by angels and becomes a grown man in heaven. She wrote a book about this to minister to other women who have lost children. The book is called Jessie by Chris Pringle, as that was the name they had planned for their first born. It's a beautiful and powerful testimony. |
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---lisa on 4/15/05 |
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