The Correct Way To Baptism
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Either way is ok. Get baptized. That's the main thing. In obedience to God. I was baptized, full immersion, in the name of the Father,Son and Holy Ghost. Matthew 28:20. |
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---Robyn on 8/20/07 |
The NAME of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost is One Name. It's NOT NAMES, but THE NAME! You should not baptize if you do not know that name! That Name is JESUS! That is why they baptize in THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST ! |
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---Johann_Deetlefs on 8/20/07 |
Baptism is supposed to be in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. When they baptised in Christ's name they would have used the above tri-part formula, for Christ is a part of that. To be born again is a reference to Baptism and unless you are baptised you will NOT enter the Kingdom of Heaven, although it is true that Baptism is not what ultimately saves you. John 3:5, and lest this be not clear - read the rest of the chapter. |
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---lorra8574 on 3/8/07 |
Baptism connects us to Christ's death and resurrection, see Romans 6:4. Baptism is so important that it has become an anthem, see Ephesians 4:5 One Lord, One Faith, One Baptism. John preached the Baptism of Repentence and when the Pharisees and Sadduccees came to the river he cried out "...who warned you to flee from the wrath to come?" Matthew 3:7. Jesus picked up what John had started and gave it something more - in Him we are born of the spirit. |
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---lorra8574 on 3/8/07 |
Having studied the bible for many decades, I have found hundreds of scriptures stating that baptism is by immersion only, even Jesus Christ was immersed in water to set the ultimate example, but I have never found one scripture that says water can be poured, sprinkled, or thrown at someone to baptise them. read the bible and stop inventing your own doctrines which are false teachings of men and not God. |
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---Dave on 3/8/07 |
Florence :There is only one way in prayer "Pouring water on the head of the one being Baptised saying The words at the same time "(NAME)Florence I baptize you IN THE Name of the father & of The Son & of the Holy Spirit Amen."Go in the peace of christ-ITS a one time thing for a christian. |
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---Emcee on 3/8/07 |
I do disagree w/ the belief that baptism is needed for forgiveness of sins because it isn't scriptural.
However I have found that our forgiveness of sins is only through faith & the blood of Jesus.(Ephesians 1:7; Colossians 1:14; Hebrews 9:22)
Faith for forgiveness should not be placed on what we "must do" ie water baptism, but in what Jesus already did.
Paul talked about this in 1Corinthians 1:17 |
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---Rickey on 3/7/07 |
Question, Jesus told them to go & teach in Matthew 28:19, before the day of Pentecost. After He ascended into heaven the disciples started baptizing in Jesus' Name instead of Matthew 28:19 which is correct?
Although baptism is not required for salvation. |
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---Preach-Aholic on 3/7/07 |
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Question, Jesus told them to go & teach in Matthew 28:19, before the day of Pentecost. After He ascended into heaven the disciples started baptizing in Jesus' Name instead of Matthew 28:19 which one do you believe applies for today?
Although baptism is not required for salvation. |
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---Preach-Aholic on 3/7/07 |
I would prefer in the name of the Trinity.Father,Son and Holy Spirit. But when it is all said and done just get baptized in obedience to the Lord. That should sertle it all. |
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---robyn on 3/7/07 |
Both ways are recorded in the Scriptures. Some say that the trinity formula are titles of positions, or offices, rather then formal names. And so they say that the formal Name of Jesus would be more accurate. i was baptised 3 times: Sprinkled as a child with the pronounced trinity; immersed as an adult in the pronounced trinity; and immersed as an adult in the Name of Jesus. My conscience is satisfied. |
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---Eloy on 3/7/07 |
Paul I believe ( I may be wrong) wrote therefore baptism doth save us as it is the answer of a clean conscience. If a person is able they should as a public profession and for conscience sake. Faith and obediance are highly esteemed in the eyes of the Lord though. |
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---Frank on 7/9/06 |
Untill jesus died no one could Baptise in Jesus name. in the NT no one was baptize any other way but in Jesus name Mathew 28-19 Jesus told the deciple. Go baptize in the name not names And the only way the blood of Jesus covers us is when we are babtise in jesus name an that is when our sins are forgiven and the blood is applied If we get the Holy Ghost And not get Baptize in his name we are only half born and our sins are not removed untill we obeyWhat Jesus told the deciples to teach the people |
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---Betty2 on 7/8/06 |
Romans 10:9..."that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved."
That's all there is to it...baptisms are on outward expression of an inward decision. |
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---Matt on 7/8/06 |
The jailor was saved and then baptized. I never seen an example in the Bible of someone who had baptism save them. They were all saved and then baptized. The same as you all. They wouldn't even have baptized any of you if you weren't saved. Why do many of you say that you aren't saved until you're baptized? It is a requirement for baptizm that you are saved. |
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---john on 5/19/06 |
Inasmuch as our Lord, God, and Saviour Jesus Christ Himself said to baptize in the Name of the FAther, Son, and Holy Spirit, that should close the issue. |
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---Jack on 5/19/06 |
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What name do you think Jesus was baptized in? We are certain that Jesus sought out John to baptize Him. Why? Now John's baptism was unto repentance,but that cannot possibly be why Jesus wanted to be baptized because he had no sin. What is your ideas concerning these questions. |
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---mima on 5/19/06 |
There's nothing wrong with baptizing babies, even so when the baptized infant grows up and understands better whom Jesus is, then they again may desire baptism to settle their own conscience. Personally i myself was baptized 3 times: Sprinkled as a baby; immersed as an adult in the Trinity; and immersed again as an adult in the formal Name of Jesus. |
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---Eloy on 5/19/06 |
God's instruction is for ALL to be baptized to be a part of God's family, he did not say, only adults or only those who understand. He said All, that's all inclusive. We are not to lean upon our own understanding or analysis, for as the heavens are higher then the earth so are his ways higher than our ways. God gave the promise of blessing to Abraham AND to all of his children, it's not just for Abraham or the adults who understand. |
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---Eloy on 5/19/06 |
There's nothing to the contrary excluding infants in scripture, but actually reads that all the households were baptized, including infants. The great commission instructs us that ALL should be baptized, again God's grace is for all the family. Matthew 28:19; Luke 3:21. i know certain religions deny baptism and communion to people, but Jesus spoke sharply against that. Please read Matthew 23:13; Luke 18:15-17. |
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---Eloy on 5/19/06 |
In the Bible whole families and children were baptized on the same day. Baptism originally is a family affair which is all-inclusive, after the family heard the gospel message, customarily the whole family got baptized. Please read Acts 2:38-41; 16:15,32,33; Luke 18:15-17. |
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---Eloy on 5/19/06 |
Jesus commanded all to be baptized, and none to be excluded. The only thing man offers or can impart in baptism is his whole undone self obeying the command, God is the one who does all the supernatural converting and sanctifying, not the undone clay of man nor clay of infant nor clay of woman. Please read Ezekiel 36:23-28; I Corinthians 7:14. |
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---Eloy on 5/19/06 |
If you refuse baptism, or any other command of Christ, then you are unsaved. Baptism is 100% God's sanctification, and is none of man's doing. If you refuse baptism, you're refusing Christ, and if you refuse Christ, then you're refusing God's salvation for you. |
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---Eloy on 5/19/06 |
Baptism IS required for salvation. Jesus said, "He that believes AND IS BAPTIZED WILL BE SAVED; but he that believes not will be damned." Mark 16:16. The thief on the cross could very well have been baptized before he was nailed on the cross. Peter said, "Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord." Acts 10:47,48. |
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---Eloy on 5/19/06 |
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To obey Christ is to follow him, apart from which there is no salvation. This is one of the reasons why very few people are actually saved: because they do not obey all of his commands, but instead they follow only part of his command which they pick and choose to their liking, and they disregard or discard the required rest. Man will live by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God. Every word of Christ is pure, and nothing to be refused, and one of his words is to be baptized. |
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---Eloy on 5/19/06 |
Baptism is included in salvation, not excluded. When Christ commands you to be baptized, then we should obey him. He is the Lord. When he commands you to repent, or confess your sins, or to sacrifice yourself, or to share your faith, or to do the works of Christ, then we should obey him, for all obedience is included in salvation. We must obey all of his commands, and not pick nor choose which command we merely desire to do. |
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---Eloy on 5/19/06 |
I know the commandment of Christ to be baptized. Christ is baptized, and he commands baptism. I accept the whole word of truth, and not just a part. By taking verses out of context, and also misapplying scripture you will always be led astray. If you want to know about baptism, then you must look up scriptures on baptism, and not verses on belief, grace, forgiveness, being saved from sin, etc. Though these other topics may happen to speak about baptism, that is not the main subject matter. |
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---Eloy on 5/19/06 |
One Lord Jesus. One faith Jesus .One Baptizem Jesus .Our sin's are not removed until we are baptise in Jesus name and only then is his blood apply to us what does the word remitted mean it mean to take away. |
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---Betty on 5/18/06 |
Don't confuse the method with the message. The message is all ways be the same - you are giving an outward testimony of an inward decision of accepting Christ as Saviour. The method may vary according the church denomination and/or culture. (For example, I had a missionary friend in Iran who baptised in the golf course water hazard at night because it was safer.) My church baptises by immersion, one time backwards in the church. Others use only a stream, or river. But, the message stays the same. |
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---WIVV on 5/18/06 |
Funny how some people say that what Jesus commanded His disciples to do is not a requirement for salvation.
Immersion (derived from the Jewish Mikveh) was always the NORM of Christian baptism. However, common sense tells you that sometimes immersion is not possible. We are not under the law but grace. In practice, we could get as close to immersion as we can (which might vary in these exceptional cases)--but we don't take the exception and make it the norm, either. |
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---Jack on 5/30/05 |
Baptism is a symbol of salvation not required for salvation. It should only occur once time in a lifetime. The volume of water is irrelevant: emersion, poring, and sprinklings are all valid forms. Infant Baptism was normative by the second century. When a head of household was converted and baptized all in the household were baptized including infants children and slaves. No legitimate Christian denomination should ever ask you to be re-baptized, if they do, don't join it, go elsewhere.
Phia4633 |
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---Phia4633 on 5/23/05 |
I have never believed baptism is necessary for salvation and yet it was a commandment so isn't to be ignored.I hope and pray it isn't part of being saved for I have loved ones who died without it,although they were commited to serving Jesus.I do believe in deathbed conversions and they aren't baptised,neither was the thief on the cross. |
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---Darlene_1 on 5/4/05 |
IF baptism is NECESSARY for salvation, then
Ephesians 2:8-9, "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast."
Is a lie.
Also see:
Titus 3:5, "Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;" |
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---Bruce5656 on 4/30/05 |
This is an interesting discussion. I was baptized in the name of the Father, Son & Holy Ghost. The church of my youth believes baptism is necessary for salvation and that people who speak tongues have mental health issues.
Isn't it wonderful that God is our judge and he judges our hearts and not who "does it right"? |
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---Me on 4/27/05 |
lena, please feel free to read the verses once more,
John 3:3-5 Unless you are BAPTIZED'
Acts 8:38 the Ethiopian B
Matthew 28:18-20 go ye therefore
& lastly a must read " Acts 22:16
Like the other person said One faith & One Baptism ( Ephessians 4:5)
Lets not say it doesnt matter if you are B'
WELL I ALSO THINK ITS THE ISSUE OF TRINITY, TRY AND VIEW THE ISSUE THAT WAS ASLO ASKED RECENTLY IN THIS FORUM |
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---Shava on 4/24/05 |
Bro. Bruce I think it is all about denominational doctine, man's focus. Some call themselves Trinity , and others Oneness , they have allowed this to divide them to the point of hardfeelings against oneanother.I think it's a shame.One of my AoG Pastors baptised like you do.It's all about obedience to the Word to be baptised,I would never make it a bone of contention.As long as it's Bible.There are far weighter matters, for a Christian to deal with in everyday living ,to get hung up on that.We agree,it seems,Jesus name is our access to God ,Our authority over Satan,our all. |
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---Darlene_1 on 4/23/05 |
The correct way for baptism is in Acts 2:38;baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins. |
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---leslie_ruiters on 4/23/05 |
Darlene,
I am glad to learn that you were considered a Christian with out the baptism.
If not for doctrinal reasons as the UPC teach (no trinity etc.) then what is the issue about a formula? Why would it divide? Baptism either way is just as valid - if it is not done as a requsite to salvation.
I have baptized people "In the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Ghost in Jesus name." To me the "in Jesus name" part is just a statement as to the authority by which we bpatize. Just like we pray for/about something "in Jesus name". |
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---Bruce5656 on 4/23/05 |
Just words used by man ... different words in different languages. Do you think God listens to the spokjen words, or to what is being said by the heart? |
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---Alan_of_U.K. on 4/23/05 |
To those who say there is only the baptism in Matthew28:19 The Father,Son, and Holy Ghost-reference Luke 24:46-47 tells Christ suffered and rose from dead,-that repentence and remission of sins should be preached in "His name", thats Jesus.Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them,Repent ,and be baptised every one of you in "the name of Jesus Christ" for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.It is mans doctrine that formed a schism between Gods Children, using the baptism in Matthew opposing the one in Acts , to cause confussion, not Christ. |
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---Darlene_1 on 4/22/05 |
Bro. Bruce, I was considered a Christian,although not baptised in water until in my twenties.I was still considered a Christian when I joined the Assembly of God already baptised in water in Jesus Name, they baptise in The Name of the Father,Son, and Holy Ghost, but the Pastor said it doesn't bother me, if it doesn't you.I never heard baptism discussed in that way when I was a child so I can't really answer your question ,but back then they were just happy to receive another saved soul for Christ and didn't turn anyone away for any reason.To them I was completely saved. |
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---Darlene_1 on 4/22/05 |
Jesus tells us in Matthew 28:19, "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:". I don't argue with what Christ tells me to do. |
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---bornagin on 4/22/05 |
Darlene,
Would you have been considered a Christian if you repented and:
a. You had not been baptized?
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b. If you had been baptized in the "Name of the Father Son and Holy Ghost"? |
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---Bruce5656 on 4/22/05 |
It is scriptual to baptize in the name of The Father, Son and Holy Ghost. This is a picture of the Baptism of Jesus and it does not save you. You should already be saved. |
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---Lena on 4/22/05 |
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The bible says, "I baptize you in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost. The is the only one listed in the KJ. |
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---Betty on 4/22/05 |
John the Baptist babtized in water but Jesus babtized with fire and Power ...water is for cleansing representing going down into a watery grave The Lord revealed to me one time that neither are a heaven or hell issue but LEGALISTICS....so i suggest for those that dont understand they need to get their nose in Gods word and work out their own salvation with fear and trembling...i was a member of UPC for 5 years PRAISE GOD FOR DELIVERING ME OUT OF BONDAGE ! MARK 1:8..... |
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---Lea on 4/22/05 |
I grew up Baptist, and I was baptized in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost. Then I went to an UP church for a short time, and they made me get baptized again in Jesus' name. Now I am in an AG church which I love that baptizes in The name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost. Which is right? Both are, but you do not need to be baptized to speak in tongues, or to be saved. Those who teach this are not in line with Scripture.Those who taught me I needed to be baptized again were not right either. God knows your heart, not man. |
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---Michelle_Raab on 4/22/05 |
Elder, is it just a name or you really are an elder of some church? Anyways here are some verses for you:
John 3:3-5 Unless you are B'
Acts 8:38 the Ethiopian
Matthew 28:18-20 go ye therefore
& lastly a must read " Acts 22:16
Like the other person said One faith & One Baptism ( Ephessians 4:5)
Lets not say it doesnt matter how you are B' |
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---Shava on 4/22/05 |
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Bro.Bruce,I've said it before but,the UP are the only Pentecostals I know of who teach that doctrine.None of the Oneness Churches,who baptise in Jesus Name, I grew up in taught that.Oneness isn't the same as Jesus Only either.When I was saved at 11 years old everyone in the oneness church where it happened, rejoiced at my salvation ,and I didn' receive the Baptism of HG and speak in tongues for 11 years after that.Time and again I saw the church happy someone got saved,through only repentence,no tongues.God Bless |
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---Darlene_1 on 4/22/05 |
Baptism ;In THE NAME of the Father ,Son,and Holy Ghost ,what is THE NAME? All the fullness of the Godhead bodily dwells in Jesus Christ Col.2:9.The Name is Jesus. Baptism IN JESUS Name and The Name Of ,seem to say the same thing. It appears the different way of saying it lies in the fact of Christs death and resurrection, that He alone is our way of salvation and we as Christians only reach the Father through the Son,all in Jesus Name.Making the baptism not a change in name but a change in emphasis ,putting it more clearly on Jesus, who God gave all power on heaven and earth. |
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---Darlene_1 on 4/22/05 |
The problem with baptism in "Jesus' name" is not the formula rather the theology behind the formula. Most frequently, those who teach this believe that you MUST be baptized (according to their specific formula), and speak in tongues to be saved. This is a false gospel. Read Galations. |
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---Bruce5656 on 4/22/05 |
Since Baptism does not save we do not have to be so concerned about the legalism of the act.
The Bible teaches Baptism after Salvation not to receive Salvation. |
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---Elder on 4/22/05 |
I am a missionary baptist & my little one got saved in Aug. and is going to be baptised in a week and we baptise in the name of the Father,Son & Holy Ghost.Submurged in the water as a burial of Christ and rise in His resurrection.The most important part of it is being saved accept Jesus in your heart.No matter how much your are sprinkled(not scriptial) or immersed in baptisim isnt going to save you from your sins.Robin |
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---Robin on 4/22/05 |
It is written, 'There is one Lord, one faith, and one baptism.' Take that as you will when you debate which baptism is correct. |
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---gregg on 4/22/05 |
What does the Bible say about baptism? The correct way is in the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. (Mt 28, 16-20). But it is to know taht we aren't baptised for the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit but by the baptism we join Jesus as our Lord. So we are baptised in His name. But we have to know that Jesus is the Full Revelation of the Trinity. Don't worry about the formula. The problem is to get in the deepness of the formula.
Armel, Congo Brazzaville |
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---Armel on 4/22/05 |
Matthew 28:18-20(go ye therefore and baptise in the name of FSH)and you get to be deeped once in Water, not with water It is dying, so cant die three or seven times, but once and get washed Titus 3:5 (washing & rebirth) Romans 6:3-5 (All baptism into death) |
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---Shava on 4/22/05 |
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