In the pre-and immediately post-revolutionary days in our country, many churches were financed by lotteries.
Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/26/14|
A pastor and the church officers should never know from where the offerings came. Offerings should not be cheques bearing the giver's name, they should not be in a numbered envelope identifying the giver, they should never be able to be traced back to the giver. If someone gambles and wins and chooses to give some of that money to the church it should also be given anonymously in cash via the collection plate/box or whatever.
Matthew 6:2-4 makes this absolutely clear.
---Rita_H on 6/26/14|
Churches make money on raffles. Mine don't but some do. No difference in gambling.
---shxira4368 on 6/25/14|
Gambling money, not sure. I wondered about bribe money to church from lawyers, judges etc. I jus don't think ther is Honest bribe money.
---Lawrence on 6/18/14|
Thankyou, both followerofchrist & bro.MarkV. Re: the church where my friend'husband gave the church $7,000 lottery money! for your posts 1/26/13
Agree all the way! Good posts! Smiles, ELENA
---ELENA on 1/27/13|
most churches today are so far removed from the Lord and it is proven from the question. When a church (or charity) become more concerned with how the money arrived rather than putting the money to good use they have lost sight of their purpose becoming a busy-body in micro-managing (or policing) the lives of every person and hoping to uncover and expose people for whatever wrong they perceive. The true motive in exposing how the money arrived is for gossip slander and controversy. However someone has money is between that person and God, how they choose to spend, save, or hoard is still between them and God. You can't be thankful for the gift of money and using it wisely while chasing its origin
---Follower_of_Christ on 1/26/13|
Sis. Elena, what that pastor did was so wrong, and everyone should have left that church and gone west.
All money is mostly corrupt. Even the money paid to workers since much of it comes from people who have made money out of others in some way. Companies do business in places like China, in sweathouses, and take advantage of poor people who need a job. When someone say's, not to give money to the Church, and check where it comes from, is to be legalistic. Since everyone sins anyway in some form or other.
---Mark_V. on 1/23/13|
bike: //" Yet, Jesus welcomed the perfume poured upon his feet by such. (Luke 7:36-50)// The woman had already repented, changed, her bad past was forgiven & forgotten which makes her gift acceptable to God/Jesus. This applies to Zacchaeus as well Luke 19.
---Adetunji on 1/23/13|
Greetings, smile well, remember we use to go this chuch, sure enough we had a sister ( nice lady) her husband hate church he just went keep eye on his wife! So, one day her hit the lottery BIG! He say " preacher, would you accept money from thr lottery? Pastor say "how much?" He said " I give you whatever you will - but she do not have to go to church NO more! Deal? Pastor said. " bring me $7,000
She can leave.fair & square! He brought the money in a diaper bag..
They left! Moved out west.
Mostly, alot of folks left behind that scene.
---ELENA on 1/22/13|
Every church in Las Vegas takes gambling money. If you knew every place that a coin has been, you probably wouldn't want to touch it. The Bible says, Deuteronomy 23:18, "You must not bring the earnings of a female prostitute or of a male prostitute into the house of the Lord your God, because the Lord your God detests them both." Yet, Jesus welcomed the perfume poured upon his feet by such. (Luke 7:36-50) Jude 1:23 says "to others show mercy, mixed with fear hating even the clothing stained by corrupted flesh." Money is corrupted. Judas was treasurer. Time and chance happen to all. (Ec 9:7) More, James 4:13-14. Really, EVERYTHING ALREADY BELONGS TO GOD and we are only giving back from what God has given us. Read Mt 17:24-27?
---bike on 1/19/13|
What of church bingo? I think of Jesus clearing the temple. Luke 19:46
It is written, he said to them, My house will be a house of prayer, but you have made it a den of robbers. Matthew 21:12-3 Jesus entered the temple area and drove out all who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves. It is written, he said to them, My house will be called a house of prayer, but you are making it a den of robbers. Yes, it is more for the church to be concerned about it's own behavior. As the one said, "All money is dirty."
---bike on 1/19/13|
the bible says that god lays up the riches of the unrighteous for the righeous, so that should settle it. Take the money and give thanks.
---disciple1938 on 1/17/13|
A couple of times, years ago, I gambled (petty change) and felt guilty so I gave it to my church, made me feel like some good came out of my moment of foolishness anyway.
---Mary on 3/9/08|
No, the devil had it long enough.Let's give it back to GOD now for his purpose.
---Robert on 3/9/08|
Bingo in the Baptist basement?
---John1944 on 3/7/08|
All money is dirty. It passes from dirty hands to dirty hands and is gained in sometimes,evil ways. But it is still useful and can do good things as well as,bad. Yes-a church or christian organization should take it if given in the right way. Why not? The church did not participate in how it was gotten. But they(church) can make sure it is used in the right way to further the Kingdom of God.
---Robyn on 3/7/08|
Do you consider horse racing or card games the same as crucifying the Lord? What happened to Judas Iscariot after accepting the money given to him? He hung himself.
---gregg on 3/7/08|
God does not need anyones money, but He can use it as much as the devil can.
---shira_5965 on 7/3/07|
I believe that a church should not take money that was got from gambling. That would be participating in the sin of gambling. If they find out after, well that is probably difficult. Maybe if they know who it came from then can then witness to that person.
---Helen_5378 on 9/27/06|
Alan, I hope you know I was kidding about Lassie.
Anyway, there is a great difference between gambling and investing. Gambling is quick, something-for-nothing thinking; investing is long term growth, rooted in substantial things like stock in companies, etc.
I tell people that playing the NY lottery is proof you flunked math in school. There is are 45 million to 1 odds against you, and a pay out of 3 million. But hey, you never know, right?
---JohnT on 9/27/06|
HAHAHAHAH that Pastor has humour. That's also true, most gamblers are honest hard working people and the devil took their money thru gambling so it is rightful for the Pastor to accept this money back. OUr church wont but I think it should be ok. It's redeemed money lol
---jana on 9/27/06|
I heard a story a long time ago about a gambler that went to Church one Sunday. After the service he shook hands with the Pastor and held up 10 one hundred dollar bills. He said to the Pastor, " I would give you this $1000 but I don't guess you would take it from a gambler, would you"? The pastor took the money from the gambler's hand and said, "Yes, I will take this money, it has been in the Devil's hands long enough"
---willa6538 on 4/27/05|
Gregg, Judas didn't hang himself because he received money. He hung himself because of the sin that caused him to receive the money.
He killed himself instead of asking forgiveness of the sin. He had tried to give the money back and ended up throwing it back then hanged himself.
The money had nothing to do with his death.
---Elder on 4/25/05|
I believe that a church should not worry where its charity monies come from. The IMPORTANT MATTER is that the church NOT BE INVOLVED in most of the revenue producing activities that you mentioned. When you hold a dollar bill in your hand you don't know where all it has been, therefore don'y worry! be happy and give it to a good cause!
---Pierre on 4/24/05|
The organization should decide how to spend it along with the other money.
Money is just a tool use it wisely even though someone else didn't.
The Bible says the love of money is the root of evil not that money is that root.
What did Paul say about meat offered to idols? He ate it as the meat in itself was not evil although the practice of offering it to idols was. He did not engage in that.
---Elder on 4/24/05|
If i didn't know where the money came from, accepted it but found out later the origin, I would pray about it. Just as we use the devil's tunes and the Lord can use them I think that to sue it for HIM is OK
---Sandi on 4/24/05|
For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows. 1Tim 6:10
Money is not good or bad...it's what the money motivates you to do that makes the difference.
---MJ on 4/24/05|
My opinion is that money is a neutral entity. It's intent and purpose is determined by the hands presently holding it ... not by where it has been in the past. The Christian organization didn't acquire the money from gambling themselves, it was given to them. Receiving money through offerings is an acceptable form of revenue for Christian organizations so they haven't errored. I think the Christian organization should rejoice that they have acquired money that the devil was trying to use to cause harm because they now have the ability to use it for good.
---DoryLory on 4/24/05|
As an extension to the question, what about money earned as a result of speculation on the Stock Market? Or property speculation?
I do not approve with gambling, but I have to accept that my pension fund providers ganble on the exchanges to ensure a decent pension for me.
---Alan_of_U.K. on 4/24/05|