My Pastor Is Spreading Lies
Persecutions of true Christians cannot but exist(from Church members, Pastors & non-Christians). The best is to discuss the situation(s) with the Lord & take whatever HE guides us to do. Leaving a Church will not bring an end to persecution(s) because human behaviour is similar wherever we may go.
---Adetunji on 5/30/13|
you need to get out of that place quick. no real pastor is going to do such. I would expose him in public. take two or three witness with you..
---shira4368 on 5/29/13|
I have confronted my pastor over things he's said. His response: 1)Deny
3)Remove me as a soloist for two years.
Now I've hit a situation where he has publicly lied about a family member. It's not that it's my family, but I know the truth because it's my family member. Do I confront him and go thru' this again or just leave? After 32 yrs, it's hard to just give up and leave. I know the aweful lies he'll tell about us when I leave, but there is no getting things right with this man. He is proud, arrogant, insecure, and cruel. He'd have made a wonderful crooked politician, because he naturally does these things. I love him and his family, was very close to them for many years, but the corruption that goes on is unbelievable.
---CJ on 5/28/13|
Ask God to take you out. A very good possibility, He will....Your reputation with God is far more important than your reputation with man.
---pat on 10/18/12|
I just left my Apostolic church because our pastor was untrustworthy, I was told to talk to the Bishop. That was a big mistake, go outside the church to a trusted brother or sister in your faith.If you cannot trust your pastor, it is time to leave, turn it over to Jesus, pray, pray pray.
---glenn_wrightsman on 10/18/12|
Confronting him with two witness and expose him. Never let it go
---mlang on 1/26/12|
Hello Cuny! I am so very sorry, however, I did not catch your post just below down there. Come again.
---catherine on 11/9/10|
\\I am one of the rare ones, I AM SAVED.
---catherine on 11/8/10\\
And if we doubt you, all we have to do is ask us, and you'll tell you're saved, right?
---Cluny on 11/9/10|
Yes, I agree wit Eloy, in that, you could confront....Cluny, also, I hate to admit, could be right. Maybe it's just all a bunch of lies. Maybe you could investigate a little, yes, maybe you could. As always, spread it out before God, first. He is use to it.
---catherine on 11/9/10|
You could ask the pastor if you could have a few moments of his time in private, and then ask him about the demeaning talk that you have heard, and ask him and the others in the church to stop the bad-talking about you. A good pastor and a good christian will exercise the Golden Rule, namely, "Do and say to others exactly that that you desire others to do and say to you."
---Eloy on 11/9/10|
And just how do you know the pastor is spreading slander about you--and not others slandering HIM by saying this?
---Cluny on 11/8/10|
He has no business being in any church. God does not know him. May I suggest you tar and feather him...Well, that aunt very Christian like. Oh, shut-up. I am one of the rare ones, I AM SAVED.
---catherine on 11/8/10|
Treat them the as you would an unsaved sinner, because that is what they are. By the fruit a tree is known, and when a person bears rotten fruit, that manifests that they are nonChristians and unsaved.
---Eloy on 11/8/10|
CHristians are to lead quiet and peaceful lies --leave.
There is no way to glorify God in staying and confronting unless there is corporate confession and forgiveness.
---larry on 11/7/10|
I would face the pastor and any member who was telling lies. I would face it and make them face it. I had a similar problem and went to the person and she wouldn't talk to me. I just keep loving her and act as if nothing happened. She knows the truth just like in your case you know what the truth and God knows the truth in all things.
---shira3877 on 11/7/10|
Learn from your mistakes. Never confide in another pastor about anything. Go to someone outside of your church. But not the pastor. You have to always use common sense and be led by the Spirit. I have learned not to confide in anyone at my job/church and so on, without really knowing I can trust this person. I keep things to myself and talk to the Lord about it. We are told to take everything to the Lord in prayer. Disobedience can get us into trouble.
But your pastor was way out of line and someone not to be trusted. I would be careful with him laying hands on me to pray. I would make myself scarce around him, at all times. Better yet. I would move my membership elsewhere. But do know you were partly, at fault,too.
---Robyn on 11/7/10|
Emily -- I did not hear your pastors sermon, nor do I have any idea what you may have told him. But sometimes people "see" themselves in a sermon, when the pastor didn't have just YOU in mind at all... he is speaking about all sorts of situations LIKE yours.
Whatever your circumstances were or are, most problems are not so "unique" that we are the only ones to have them. I doubt that the "whole congregation" automatically thought of YOU as he preached.
But it's IMPORTANT for you to straighten this out for your own sake. I don't believe He'll lose his temper.
Tell him his sermon worried you and you'd like to discuss it with him. Tell him how you feel.
---Donna66 on 6/27/10|
I shared something with my Pastor that he said he would keep confidential. Two months later he preached it out of his pulpit. On top of that he added information that was not true. He did not mention my name but I feel like the whole congregation knows about it. I know that if I confront him his temper will fly and I do not want to encounter that.
---Emily on 6/26/10|
I know what you mean, I also had a supposed Pastor do the same thing to me, even to the point where he accussed me of stealing my own stuff. I had to prove that the items were mine with the actual receipt. I told him he was no pastor and he needed to quit hiding behind the titel for his evil deeds, he then cut his wrist infront of witnesses.
---judy on 10/24/09|
Sad Sad Sad.
I am passing for this fire, is very hurtful, not necessary and has couse so much pain to my family, my kids, the church, and the community. My advised is to pray and to allowed God so shown others (including the Pastor) who you are. Once the damage is done is very difficult to go back.
---AC on 8/17/09|
Elders: 1Timothy 5:19-22 (two plus reputable witnesses). Some believe that you must accuse them in front of another elder(s), before making the accusation public. Not permitting this violates 1Timothy 3:1-15, Titus 1:6-9, 1Peter 5:2. If the charge is justifiable, Romans 16:17-18, 1Corinthians 5.
Matthew 18:15-20 concerns offenses committed against you personally, and allows private repentance, but 1Timothy 5 does not. See also, 1Timothy 1:20, 2Timothy 2:17, Revelations 2:20.
Matthew 7:1-5 / Luke 6:41-42 deal with hypocrisy, and unjust judgment. 1Corinthians 2:15, 5:3, 11-13, 6:4, 11:31 instruct us to judge. In 1Chronicles 16:22 & Psalms 105:15, touch means to strike, or kill.
But, 1Corinthians 3, Hebrews 5:11-14.
---Glenn on 5/18/09|
I sugest you get an elder, decon or board memeber to meet with you and the pastor and discuss this. Over a year after I was deceived by someone in authority an assitant pastor said I needed closure so he set up a meeting. I was well prepared and the person involved tried to manouver out of it in the meeting. That is brief. This was something that had to be exposed. I know it is hard to deal with something like this because you think others will think you are causing division.
---Paul on 5/17/09|
Unfortunately or fortunately, Pastors are humans too. But they are held to a higher judgement as they literally hold their flocks souls in their hands. I to have experienced this painful phenomenon and I spent several years recovering from the hurt. My advise is to run to the Father and cast all your cares on Him and He will take care of the rest. And do not stay where they kill their wounded!
---Sally on 6/27/07|
(1)pray very well on the issue .
(2)study the Bible on the issue and ask the Holy Spirit to give you divine illumination and wisdom to communicate and discuss with your pastor.
(3)explain your understanding of the Sciptures on the issue with humility,love and respect to your pastor
(4)do not be judgemental about it
(5)pray for your pastor daily that he will accept and teach the truth
---kehinde on 4/19/07|
First, confront the pastor. (It might be wise to take another Christian with you.) Second, you might consider changing churches. Third, a saying my father use to like was, "if you did something to deserve it, you have it coming; if you didn't, it will die out."
---WIVV on 2/27/06|
You need to confront him in calmness and find out what he said and why. This is the Biblical approach.
Now, wouldn't you be surprised if someone was telling you lies about the Pastor and he never said anything about you?
Use wisdom my friend.
---Elder on 4/26/05|
If any man among you seem to be religious and bridleth not his tongue,but deceiveth his own heart this man's religion is vain.(James 1:26)KJV.Pray about it and if you feel led to do so,talk with him.May God's will be done.
---RUSSELL on 4/26/05|
Confront him. If that doesn't work, confront his wife. If that doesn't work, grab someone from the church leadership and confront him again. If that doesn't work, bring along two witnesses. If that doesn't work, leave the church. No sense in putting up with ungodly nonsense. It will drain you emotionally and physically. If he can't play nicely with you, than he can't play at all.:o)
---Katie on 4/26/05|
Natheria, *If* this really is true of him, then he's already sinned by not confronting YOU in person himself and with others. Follow Pierre, Carol&Dennis' advice to confront him, in humility, perhaps with one neutral party first since you're a woman, then with Elders if necessary. Hopefully it's a misunderstanding or only someone's sinful gossip. I'll try to give more specifics/referrals in private if you decide to message me.
---danie9374 on 4/26/05|
Amongst the 12 Apostles, there was Judas. Do not let Pastor's lies affect your walk with Christ. Let the Holy Spirit guide you.
Meanwhile pray for him and forgive him.
---Albert on 4/26/05|
Follow the Biblical principal:Take one or two of the Elders with you and visit the Pastor, telling him that you understand that he MAY HAVE BEEN SPREADING lies about you. Tell him what you have heard and ask him either to confess or deny the accusation. If necessary be ready to bring witnesses before the group to confirm the accusation, if it should turn out to be true. Then, AND THAT IS THE HARD PART tell the Pastor how sad you are about the whole matter but that you are willing to forgive him, if he would take the necesary steps for the truth to be made known!
---Pierre on 4/25/05|
If you are seriously committed to this particular church, then the Pastor needs to be confronted, in person, face to face, you and him/her. This Pastor needs to know what you know. If the Pastor does not want to apologize or admit his/her lies, then you should seriously pray for him, and look for another church to serve in.
---Carol on 4/25/05|
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One of the saddest things in the church is what you are experiencing. There are three basic choices. One is to scripturely confront the individuals doing it, including the pastor. That can become messy. Another is to change churches. Barring that, one could know what the truth is and pray for God to handle the situation and leave it in His hands. That is difficult to do but possible. Leaving the city or town would be the only other option.
---Dennis_Z. on 4/25/05|