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Are Free Masons A Cult

Most here say Freemasonry is contrary to Christianity. I have heard some say ROTARY is very close to Freemasonry, & thus wrong. Any views or information on that?

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Francis ... You could say the same of any organisation.

People who are not Memebrs of the model train club don't know enough to be sure it is not a demonic society. Those who are members are not talking.
alan8566_of_uk on 8/19/10

yes 100% true
---francis on 8/20/10


Those who don't believe freemasonry is evil can find out on the internet. There are many sites that spill the beans about them. Most freemasons, they say, think they're doing something good until they climb up higher. The ones that reach 33degree & very near that number are the ones that have such evil agendas.
---Betty on 8/19/10


Francis ... You could say the same of any organisation.

People who are not Memebrs of the model train club don't know enough to be sure it is not a demonic society. Those who are members are not talking.
---alan8566_of_uk on 8/19/10


People who are NOT freemasons do not have enough information to make a call of cult or club, and those who are freemason are not talking
---francis on 8/19/10


Masonry is far from being contrary to any form of the Christian faith. If that is the case then our Founders that dedicated this nation to God and the Christian Religion were "evil". Dont judge a book by its cover. Simply because Masons dont run around telling their secrets doesnt mean they are evil, that sounds as paranoid as the Church during the so called Witch burnings.

The Catholic Church has damned Masonry for hundreds of years simply because Masons hold the belief of equality of every human while they believe that the Pope is above the average human.
cont
---Mike on 8/19/10




"Masonry was originally a means by which people in the occult could practice their "craft" and still remain respectable citizens.
1991 survey by the Southern Baptist Convention Sunday School Board found that 14% of SBC pastors and 18% of SBC deacon board chairs were Masons...
---John_Wheeler on 8/25/09

This is the way foolish rumors/fears/ignorance get started and is sustained. With someones fear and ignorance of the subject. Like the above post.
A house cannot stand divided. Look this one up John. In the N.T.
Masons honor GOD. And a last I heard Southern Baptist worship the name of Jesus weekly. Something a purist Satan worshipper is not going to do or be around weekly.
---Trav on 12/7/09


Stan we do not define evil, only God does. He says we are all evil and can only be forgiven if we accept that we are, and further accept Gods free gift of salvation. That gift coming only through Jesus finished work upon the cross.

No matter how much 'good' a person or organization does they are still lost in sin, in God's eyes, unless they have willingly accepted this gift. We are not saved by 'good' acts, but only by Jesus.
---Warwick on 11/26/09


I know somepeople who are masons childeren and tey are christians all the way and i'm a Rainbow and I am a christian.
---Ariel on 11/24/09


"Masonry was originally a means by which people in the occult could practice their "craft" and still remain respectable citizens. The official publication of "The Supreme Council 33" of Scottish Rite Freemasonry is titled New Age. Some church denominations are also led by avowed Masons. For example, a 1991 survey by the Southern Baptist Convention Sunday School Board found that 14% of SBC pastors and 18% of SBC deacon board chairs were Masons, it is also estimated that SBC members comprise 37% of total U.S. lodge membership. (A 2000 updated SBC report found that over 1,000 SBC pastors are Masons.) "~ I personally would love to here an explanation to this article
---John_Wheeler on 8/25/09


Freemasonry is just another Man-made type of relig-org, & is Not God inspired.
---Lawrence on 8/25/09




Ok if Freemasons are so bad then you really should know that Shriners the ones who run all those kids hospitals and ride the funny cars with the funny hats are masons.

You have to be a 3rd degree master mason to become a shriner oh the evil.... helping sick kids what will they do next
---Stan on 7/28/08


I am not familiar with ROTARY,however I do not feel there is any secrecy or exclusiveness in christianity. Christ choses us. All we need do is believe. there is no secrets.
---kathy on 5/19/08


Alan - The question I would like to have answered in regard to the fact that all of the founding USA fathers were Masons, is whether Masonry then is the same now as then. I do know that Albert Pike defined most of the tenets of Masonry and he was of the middle 1860 vintage.
---lee1538 on 1/11/08


alan_of_UK - Perhaps I should have stated many social fraternities have secret rites,etc. not professional fraternites as is the Rotary.
---Lee on 1/2/08


Iknow this.I will know it when i see it.
I CAN'T MISS IT.I KNOW PEPPER FROM SALT
...SAID ONE TO THE OTHER.SO THEY BOTH LOOKED FOR THE SAME THING.And there came a
third one neither pepper nor salt.Riding norwalking.And challenged the taste thereof.
CHRISTINITY SPEAK FOR ITSELF.
It won't be so hard to see this year.
A prophecy shall come forth that will, put
just a little more peas in the pot.
---Jack_8773 on 1/2/08


Lee ... Since I asked the original question, may I say that Rotary does not have any secret rituals.
---alan_of_UK on 1/2/08


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*Its been pretty established here sometime ago that Masons are a cult. Secret handshakes, secret meetings, secret burial rites*

But do not all fraternities including some that are on college campuses have secret rituals?

'the only secret the Masons have is that they have no secrets' Ben Franklin.
---Lee on 1/2/08


Its been pretty established here sometime ago that Masons are a cult. Secret handshakes, secret meetings, secret burial rites. It is contrary to Christianity.
All I know of Rotarians is that it is primarily more a business club. They perform tasks as a group for the city they serve and strive for unity among people in varying businesses. I'm sure there is a website for them.
It is an interracial group, Masonry is not.
---NV_Barbara on 12/29/07


Alan, I do not have a clue about rotary, sorry.
---Cynthia_1 on 3/12/07


Cynthia ... Thanks for all that. If you look very carefully at my question, you will see that if was about Rotary!
---alan_of_UK on 3/11/07


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When I was a child, a murder was committed at a Masonic Lodge near where I lived. The whole thing suddenly got hushed up & nothing was ever heard about it again. My cousin is a high ranking Mason. He has told me how Masons stick up for each other. If one does something wrong, they give a Masonic "sign" and if the policeman or judge is a Mason then he has to find his "brother" not guilty. A group of Christians here in Melbourne are trying to have Freemasonry outlawed in the Courts.
---Helen_5378 on 3/11/07


Mima - personally I don't go near masionic thinks, I've always thought that such things should be avoided. I mean I simply don't know any facts - its only my speculations & opinion.
---Khadijah on 3/10/07


Dear Alan of the United Kingdom, My father was a missionary to the United Kingdom, for many years until his death in 94" his name was Alan also, Masonic, is highly rooted in Satanism, I remember a man who wanted desperately to be made an elder in my fathers church, he was a Masonic, my dad made him renounce Masonic, Excorcism was performed demons spirits came from his body, PART 1
---Cynthia_1 on 3/10/07


When the man threw all his paraphanelia into the lake my father joined him, they said screams and smoke came out of the water. When I was living in the U.K. I had a friend who told me of the most sickening and wicked and perverse torments that her family did to her they put her into a casket then filled with rats, till this day she suffers from this. Then I got married to an American guy who told me he was A Christian but I later found out....Part 2
---Cynthia_1 on 3/10/07


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But after I married him I discovered that his family all had their roots in the Masonic higher order...I now have many years of experience by association, and the curses, and demons that pervade and enter in to these people are strong seducing, deceptive, Leviathanical in nature, THEY ARE STRONGLY WICKED.....I WARN YOU TO STAY AWAY. PART 3.
---Cynthia_1 on 3/10/07


---Khadijah asked Jesus to show you whether or not these organizations are satanically inspired. I've been shown the answer but you must learn it for yourself.
---Mima on 3/10/07


In Northern Ireland we have the masons and related groups including - Loyal Orange lodge &Royal Black Preceptory. Their rites are linked to masonism but are exclusively protestant.Leading politicians, ministers (anglican/methodist/presbyterian) are in these lodges. Most 'free' evangelical churches are suspicious of these groups don't let their members join.But they're a big part of protestant culture& thousands come to see them when they march. Its certainly a big boys club -but satanic I don't know.
---Khadijah on 3/9/07


I used to be a Master Mason but left the lodge for a variety of good reasons. They are basically a dying fraternal organization and probably in a few more decades will cease to exist. Those that fear the Masons probably also fear the booeyman.
---lee on 3/4/07


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Are there armed people,that are protectors of masons?
If so what are they called?
I think the Mormons had some kind of protectors also.

Any info?


Toad
---Toad_Wheeler on 3/4/07


Christianity in its essence is a religion based on the teachings of Christ, who was sent from God to the jews.
The Mission of Jesus was to re-teach people about God and remind them of the judgment day.

But FreeMasonry is dangerous because it has been shaped by both good and bad influences. Many historians have stated the connections between FreeMasonry and the Knights Templar order. The Templars practice magic and therefore by essence they have demonic rites.
---Mark on 11/15/06


I used to be a member of the Masonic lodge. While it has a form of religion with its rituals, it is more a fraternal organization than anything else.

In some respects, the organization depicts the failure of organized religion to satisfy the spiritual needs of people.
---lee on 8/9/06


Anyone wanting to know the truth should research the Masons and ask the Holy Spirit for wisdom.Just because an organization gives and supports some good causes doesn't make them a Christian organization. I agree with the person that says we have to be set apart for the Lord.

Blessings in your journey.
---Nancy on 8/8/06


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Just because you are a Christian does not make Masonry a Christian organization. Masonry is not built upon the belief that you believe in God, you have to believe in your God. That can be a false God. You never have to say what God that is. What are good Christian men that believe in God running around with men that believe in false idols. I believe the Bible tells us to come out among the world and be a separate people.
---jerry on 8/6/06


Just wondering have any of you people that are bashing free masonry ever even been in a lodge. We sometimes fear what we dont't know and maybe you should pick your battles. Say oh I don't know peace in the middle east or hungry children in the united states. And by the way we as free and accepted masons do contribute to the relief of those less fortunate.
---john on 8/2/06


I as a free mason I don't remember twisting any arms to get people to join. I am a christian and I belong to a Babtist Church. I attend weekly and am very active in my church. Alot of the memebers of our chuch and my pastor are masons.
---John on 8/1/06


[continuation of last post]
This states that '...the Churchs negative judgment in regard to Masonic association remains unchanged since their principles have always been considered irreconcilable with the doctrine of the Church and therefore membership in them remains forbidden. The faithful, who enroll in Masonic associations are in a state of grave sin and may not receive Holy Communion.' "
---sam on 7/31/06


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From Wikipedia: Freemasonry
And for you Catholics....Even the pope is aginast it. "A number of Papal pronouncements have been issued against Freemasonry. The first was Pope Clement XII's In Eminenti, April 28, 1738 - the last was Pope Leo XIII's Ab Apostolici, October 15, 1890. In 1983, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger (now Pope Benedict XVI) as the Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, issued Quaesitum est.
---sam on 7/31/06


From Wikipedia: Freemasonry (click on Supreme Being link)
"Candidates for regular freemasonry are required to declare a belief in a Supreme Being; a generic description allowing the candidate to adhere to whichever deity or concept he holds to be appropriate."
"The discussion of politics and religion is forbidden in a Masonic Lodge so the candidate should not be placed in the situation of having to justify the interpretation."
---sam on 7/31/06


David:
Dad was a Shriner, I am aware of FM.

What do you say to the FACT that EVERY degree ritual has a pagan deity attached?

What do you say to initiate who knocks on a door "to seek light" when Jesus is the Light? Jn14:6

What do you say to Masons who demand their rite for the deceased AFTER the preacher? In other words, what's most important, the Word, or the rite?

If FM is OK, then why are its rites secret?

Do you know that Mormon rites are based on FM?
---John_T on 7/31/06


As a Mason, I must defend the slander against this organization. Not because I am part of it, but because there is no basis. First, Masonry is interracial and international. Secondly, this is not a "secret society". You can find a lodge on the internet as easily as your local pizza shop. These buildings are clearly marked for all to see. The only secrets are the initiations, obligations, and how to recognize another. However, if you are up to date on using search engines, you will find these.
---David on 7/30/06


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It is contrary to Christianity. I suggest you read "The Masonic Lodge: What you need to know" by Ed Decker. Most Christians don't know what they are getting into because they don't know history/secrets of Freemasonry. It has demonic roots.
---wes on 7/29/06


I know some Masons, they aren't cultists. They believe in God and the resurrection of Jesus. They're men helping men to be better ... google their temple. Set up like Solomon's temple.
---Nellah on 7/29/06


elliot why are there blood oaths? albert pike said in his book morals and dogma that "the light" that they ask more of is actually ------you ready for this------------Lucifer
---r.w. on 7/28/06


Objections to Freemasonry are based out of ignorance.I can't respect the views of someone who bashes it after only hearing about it from some conspiracy nutcase.It's not a cult. There's a "demit form", fill it out and your no longer a member. They even have a "remit" form for people who change their mind after deciding to quit. They have a policy of avoiding discussions on religion/politics with other members, so no one is trying to get you to believe anything,religious or political.
---Elliott on 7/7/06


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Freemasonry is NOT a cult. Just because 200 people say so, that doesn't "establish that it is a cult". It is not a Christian organization, but that doesn't make it satanic. It's goal is to bring men together without any prejudices for fellowship and charity to others. It purposefully avoids a religious allignment so that all men who believe in a power higher than themselves can come together in brotherly love. I have experienced no conflict being a devout Christian and a Freemason.

Moderator - If you go beyond the 3rd degree you should, otherwise you will need to question your Christianity.
---Brian on 1/11/06


Rotary is not a cult, but a fee! there are many free masons in rotary, about 7 or 10 % I Think! I make a research about this subject!
When rotary was made, it was about a sort of lobbying but its necessary to take care, The rotary was founded in 1905 in Chicago, remenber of Al Capone and corruption!!! Rotary Was created to fight corruption and egoism! the mote of rotary is " To serve!"
You have many possibilities to know what is rotary using the net!
Bye!
Alain
---Alain on 11/22/05


Thank you, FF. I will do that.
---linda6546 on 5/8/05


We are not allowed to give out names of other websites here but if you type 'Larry Kunk Ephesians 5:11' into any search engine you should get the name of his website. He will give you masses of information about Freemasonry.
---F.F. on 5/7/05


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Hey, folks, you are confusing me.We have Masons and Rotarians in my country. Rotary are just one of the civic oriented groups. Mason,as I know, maintain their Lodge and have ceremonies when they accept members. But I never consider them as cult. If they are cult, please explain or provide me with website to go and to be able to dig deeper. Thank you.
---linda6546 on 5/7/05


My question was whether there was anything wrong with Rotary, but the Webmaster misunderstood it. I have now re-posted my real question more clearly
---Alan_of_U.K. on 5/6/05


Rotary, like many other things having to do with helping people in their struggles of life, started in the United States in 1913. I don't know if the guy was a Mason or not, but if he was, I am sure he probably used some assets of the Lodge making it pretty close to Freemasonry.
---gregg4933 on 5/6/05


Yes, Masonry/Freemasonry is a cult. I don't think the Rotary Club would fall into this category, as has alrady been stated because it is only a business club, for the purpose of promoting community involvement/improvement. The Masons are an interracial group now, whereas, in times past they weren't at least to the exclusion of blacks, they now have black members.
---tommy3007 on 5/6/05


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nvB means inter-racial, not inter-national!

Presumably she means that only wjite can be freemasons, but since the anti-freemason eople claim it is part of the Zionist conspiracy, presumably jews are allowed.

My question is about ROTARY, not about freemasonry, and I have opened up a new blog with a clearer question.

Rotary cerrtainly has members of all races and creeds
---Alan_of_U.K. on 5/6/05


I am asking NVBabra what she meant by saying that Freemasonry is not an interracial group. Does it mean to say that Freemasons are only composed of Scotts (as defined by gregg4933)? Is Freemasonry different from the Masons?
---linda6546 on 5/6/05


Stay far away from freemasonary!
---Jeff on 5/5/05


Freemasonry developed in Scotland with the remaining Templars (guardians of the temple, Temple of Solomon); moved into England in 1603; concerned with the transmission of sacred knowledge; it was occult until it turned into science, i.e. geometry, alchemy, hermeticism. One familie said to be direct descenant of Jesus Christ, the Sinclair family, were the protectors of Freemasonry in Scotland from the 1300's on.
---gregg4933 on 5/5/05


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