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Where Is The Love In Christians

Why dont I see the love in Christians...Jesus said they will know us by the LOVE we have for one another? All I see is gossip, attacks, jealousy and pain.

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"I never question the Word of God, but unlike you I don't hold the Bible is the inerrant Word of God."
Rocky
Sounds like a "political run for office" response to me.
(Yes, voters, I am firm on my position of non-committals and will not waver from my 100% solid stand of maybe or maybe not.....)
Sure, Rocky, I understand, you would never question something you don't believe is true in the first place.
---Elder on 10/12/11


Steven, if you are so great a teacher, then why do you persecute the Church of Jesus Christ? Does the Spirit tell you to do that? Of course there is many books that are bad in Bible stores. But since you use your computer to help you find words as a tool so that you don't have to do the work, you could look for good Bible hermenuitic books to help you interpret the Bible. But I guess the Spirit is not guiding you to that, He must want you to use Bible only, and your own understanding because you are special and have everything in control, and everyone else is wrong but you.
---Mark_V. on 10/12/11


The bible is full of prophesies concerning the end times. Sure, we don't know the day or the hour, but we are warned of the season.
--steveng 10/11/11
Yes, and people have been regualry claiming that the last days are here for over 1,000 years. So if it is the season as you claim - what is the outside limit, the date by which you claim it surely must come?
---Rocky on 10/11/11


Mark_V.: "How do you know we are in the end times? No one knows the day or the hour, not even Jesus Christ when He was on earth."

Are you that arrogant that you only read verses that appeal to your senses or concerning death itself? The bible is full of prophesies concerning the end times. Sure, we don't know the day or the hour, but we are warned of the season. Like yourself, most christian deny we are living in the end times. Most fear it because they don't want to die, or they are affraid of the unknown even when they are told what is about to happen. Also, they are uncertain of their faith and don't want the end come too soon.
---Steveng on 10/11/11


Mark_V.: "Are you like someone here who claims he is a prophet and the light Jesus saw on the Cross, and that is why you know?"

I've been blessed to be a minister of Jesus Christ, ministering the gospel of God, and to minister unto the saints and the unsaved whoever crosses my path. While most christians use concordances, christian dictionaries, author's opinions, and even believe what is written in novels, I've had no spiritual inclination in my entire life to infect my mind and spirit to read such worldly material. A walk through any christian bookstore will prove the plethora of interpretations of scritpure most notably the rapture, the end times and the gospel. I depend upon bible only, guided only by the Holy Spirit.
---Steveng on 10/11/11




Rocky: I am not sure if I agree with you or not on some things
But I do respect you for being willing to stand up for your beliefs.
---Jennifer on 10/9/11

Respect him? Nah,just understand him.
We're all at some stage of being weaned. Harder the work the tougher the workman. Israel wandered 40 years in a wilderness. Done 40 of my own making. Perception is dim truth, until truth is established.
Apostles come from different walks in life and related to their own more than others.
Paul, understanding the Romans and Judean also knew his own mindset to the Lost Sheep Nth Nation. The mindset he'd previously held. Full circle.
---Trav on 10/10/11


Rocky, "All Scripture is God breathed" No Old Testament prophet, nor Jesus Christ, nor any New Testament writer gives any support for the idea that the portions of Scripture having to do with space-time events contain errors. Had Scripture originated with man, then cultural conditioning and human error, would certainly be a factor to be reckoned with,
"However Scripture affirms that "Prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit" 2 Peter 1:21. Adding to this, Numbers 23:19 tells us, "God is not a man, that He should lie".
you say the Spirits discernment helps you know what the Spirit wrote that wasn't truth.
---Mark_V. on 10/10/11


Trav
You never apologized for your lies or repented so you are still walking in darkness. You are the poser here.
---Rocky on 10/9/11

Have replied as many times I'll never apologize for truth. Though am sorry truth painful experience for you. Also realization that not every one succumbs to your intense smothering charm.
Your hairy potter & other way philosophy/theology is dispicable in places to me.
Having freed myself from similar philosophy myself.
That you uphold,defend,promote, the obomination,political liar and poser puts the candle light on ur cake.

Have never asked for ur apologies. Still don't. I'll take ur curses as blessings. Thanks.
---Trav on 10/10/11


Rocky: I am not sure if I agree with you or not on some things

But I do respect you for being willing to stand up for your beliefs

IF (and only if) you are wrong, you may end up like C.S.Lewis, who eventually changes his views and became a great writer on doctrines
---Jennifer on 10/9/11


Don't believe in your spirit guide...yet Rocky.....you've no discernment concerning poser leaders. Maybe you're listening with another agenda heart?
--Trav on 10/9/11
Trav on another thread you made three straight posts with despicable personal attacks against me, proving that you walk in darkness not light. You are the one without the spirit guide as proven by your own words. You never apologized for your lies or repented so you are still walking in darkness. You are the poser here.
---Rocky on 10/9/11




Chria, you are right. No one knows who is saved or who is not. Others use Scripture as a tool to tell others they are not saved, by saying you can know them by their fruits. As if that will tell them the truth that is in their hearts. How much fruit is expected? They don't even know that. Some 15 years ago I heard at my former church a sister and brother were not coming to church anymore and that they had gone back to the world. I didn't understand what that meant at the time. I said, how can they go back to the world? So I beging to call them and found out they had some grip with the leaders and that was the reason they were not going anymore. People right away condemned them for not coming anymore. Just wrong.
---Mark_V. on 10/9/11


I never question the Word of God, but unlike you I don't hold the Bible is the inerrant Word of God.
---Rocky on 10/6/11


Being a sceptic,Doubting Thomas, like you....I've found the Bible we hold was translated by men of particular beliefs. Who attempted in areas to insert their theology.
The most wonderful discovery is that they were doing GOD's plan without knowing it. Adding a further witness of Magnificient GOD.

Scripture will always have two or more witnesses freeing us from the doctrinal/denom's.

Don't believe in your spirit guide...yet Rocky.....you've no discernment concerning poser leaders. Maybe you're listening with another agenda heart?
---Trav on 10/9/11


MarkV, Ive come to believe that we need to be very careful about judging, (which Ive done many times myself), who is or is not saved. Sometime we know by someones own admission.
"Have you not heard or read that during the end times, which we are in right now, many will depart from the faith?"
While this is truly the Word, one still does not know the heart of an individual. Ive seen departing from the faith equated with one leaving a particular church, without knowing why that person left.
---chria9396 on 10/7/11


Steven, what nonesense,
You say that God knows who is saved so He tells you who is saved and who is not"
Then you say you can tell who is a Christian in the Church by their actions. What actions do you see in the Church, from people listening, or singing and praying?
Then you say
"Have you not heard or read that during the end times, which we are in right now, many will depart from the faith?"
How do you know we are in the end times? No one knows the day or the hour, not even Jesus Christ when He was on earth. Are you like someone here who claims he is a prophet and the light Jesus saw on the Cross, and that is why you know? No wonder you persecute the Church of Christ. You think you have that authority.
---Mark_V. on 10/7/11


1)How could you possibly speak about Scripture if you doubt Scripture?
2) How can anyone believe what you say, if it is not gounded in the Truth?
3) How could you possibly know what part of the Bible saved you?
4) You become the determinater of what Truth is.
5)You either believe the Word of God is Truth, or you don't
MarkV 10/6/11
1)I can speak about the parts I know to be true.
2)What I say is grounded in the Truth, in the Bible and Spirit
3)The Bible did not save me, Jesus, his words and the Spirit that was sent saved me
4)No the Spirit confirms what is true.
5) I do believe the Word of God is truth.
---Rocky on 10/6/11


Mark_V.: "You cannot possibly see their hearts to know if they are saved or not."

That's right, I can't, but God can and he reveals things unseen to his people.

Mark_V.: "Can you walk in a Church and tell who is a Chrstians and who is not?"

Most suredly, by their actions.

Mark_V.: "Second, where in Scripture does it say that a genuine Christian loses his love?"

Have you not heard or read that during the end times, which we are in right now, many will depart from the faith?

Mark_V., I suggest you get to know your bible - or more specifically, Christ's words - before you start preaching to others.
---Steveng on 10/6/11


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Yet you scold those who speak out against false religions like Hinduism and Islam. And then you accuse us of not loving them as Christ commanded just because we don't accept their lies.
---Jed on 10/6/11
No I don't, but I accuse you again of distorting what I wrote. I scold those who dont accept that reading about other religions and philosophy might have some value, not about speaking out against the other religions. And I never accused anyone of not loving them as your state. Shame on you again.
---Rocky on 10/6/11


Rocky, I really don't understand you. In other blogs you question the Word of God
---Mark_V. on 10/6/11
I never question the Word of God, but unlike you I don't hold the Bible is the inerrant Word of God. That is a pretty simple concept and I don't know why you can't understand it. I believe the Bible is true for the most part and provides a solid testament about Christ's message. It and the Spirit provide a reliable guide to belief and behavior. If you need to believe that all is true so you have a detailed law to live by, like the Pharisees and Sadducees, then go ahead and believe that. I don't think that kind of detailed law is necessary.
---Rocky on 10/6/11


My friend. Please quit looking around at other people and what they are doing. Focus on Jesus and keep doing kingdom work for Christ and everything will be okay. Change starts with the man in the mirror(you). When all is said and done, we will have to see Jesus for ourselves. God will do the judging and rewarding. Not man. We live in a sin-filled world. I don't care how saved we are, we will sin. God knows this already. All of these sins are under the blood of Jesus when you become a born again,spirit filled believer. Stop the nonsense. Stop judging.I did and I feel so much better in my faithwalk. I quit church because of what you are doing. That has been over 20 years ago. Please hear what I am saying.
---Robyn on 10/6/11


Steven, you also made a statement on 10/1/11
"Comparing two similar events in my life, thirty years apart, I could personally observe and attest that love has gone out from the christian in today's world"
First of all, how do you know who is a genuine Christian? You cannot possibly see their hearts to know if they are saved or not. Can you walk in a Church and tell who is a Chrstians and who is not?
Second, where in Scripture does it say that a genuine Christian loses his love? Don't you think that by suggesting such thing, you are really saying that the Spirit of Christ leaves him. Is that possible? And if so, why not show passages to that effect? How can we possibly know if you are a Christain yourself?
---Mark_V. on 10/6/11


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Love in some Christians is very obvious, in others, still latent. It is up to each of us to take an honest look at ourselves and see how well we are doing in the love department.
---God.is.everywhere on 10/5/11


One thing that may contribute to the issue is that often times love is simply less visible and perhaps often not perceived compared to negative emotions and feelings. I love my brothers and sisters, but most of the time I am not hugging or otherwise displaying that love. But when someone lies, whether I love them or not, I will step up and challenge their lie. It is not hate or even anger, just opposing what is wrong. And there is a lot of lying and other evil going on in the world. And a lot of "hidden" loving.
---Rocky on 10/4/11

Yet you scold those who speak out against false religions like Hinduism and Islam. And then you accuse us of not loving them as Christ commanded just because we don't accept their lies.
---Jed on 10/6/11


Many of today's christians will not recognize the end times because they are living through the end times.
---Steveng on 10/4/11
Did you get that by personal revelation or do you just not believe where it is written that no one shall know when it comes?
--Rocky 10/3/11
But if you must be technical about an answer here it is: neither of the two.
---Steveng on 10/5/11
Then if you believe no one knows when the end will come, how can you proffer that many Christians are living through the end of times?
---Rocky on 10/6/11


Rocky, I really don't understand you. In other blogs you question the Word of God, the writers of Scripture and what the Bible says. And here you speak of what Christ said about love, and the Spirits discernment. How could you possibly speak about Scripture if you doubt Scripture? How can anyone believe what you say, if it is not gounded in the Truth? You either believe all of Scripture or else you believe the parts you want to believe in. What part of the gospel is true? How could you possibly know what part of the Bible saved you? You become the determinater of what Truth is. Then we should only listen to you, for you know the real Truth. Don't you see how silly that is? You either believe the Word of God is Truth, or you don't.
---Mark_V. on 10/6/11


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Rocky: "You did not answer the questions I asked. Are you evading them?"

Apparently YOU did not understand my simple answer. I want to make one thing perfectly clear: I don't evade questions. But if you must be technical about an answer here it is: neither of the two.
---Steveng on 10/5/11


God has always been seen as 'A MIRROR IMAGE OF OURSELVES'.

If we are a mean and nasty person that should be feared/mistrusted, then we'll justify our temperament by viewing God as being the same.

If we are a kind soul of peace and harmony, then we'll HAVE THE ABILITY to see the TRUE PRINCIPLES that God desires for PEACEFUL CO-EXISTENCE (this is His WILL/DESIRE). The "MIRROR" is why many people are uncomfortable about the truth of scripture.

"his natural face in a mirror" (James 1:23).

Since scripture forces them to realize their failures/iniquities, they'd rather find scripture to "MEAN" ('interpretation') something else.
---more_excellent_way on 10/5/11


One thing that may contribute to the issue is that often times love is simply less visible and perhaps often not perceived compared to negative emotions and feelings. I love my brothers and sisters, but most of the time I am not hugging or otherwise displaying that love. But when someone lies, whether I love them or not, I will step up and challenge their lie. It is not hate or even anger, just opposing what is wrong. And there is a lot of lying and other evil going on in the world. And a lot of "hidden" loving.
---Rocky on 10/4/11


[Speaking of the end of times] Did you get that by personal revelation or do you just not believe where it is written that no one shall know when it comes?
--Rocky 10/3/11
Just take a serious look around you. Many of today's christians will not recognize the end times because they are living through the end times.
---Steveng on 10/4/11
You did not answer the questions I asked. Are you evading them?
---Rocky on 10/4/11


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Rocky: "Wow. Did you get that by personal revelation or do you just no believe where it is written that no one shall know when it comes?"

Just take a serious look around you. Many of today's christians will not recognize the end times because they are living through the end times.
---Steveng on 10/4/11


We should continue in our love of the posers as we continue to faithfully deny their lies.
---Rocky on 10/3/11

Absolutely Priceless.
Youa defenda, anda do lova de poser so.
You have most faithfully denied the "posers" administration obominations and lies.

Matt 15:7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,

8This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.
9But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

And additionally....the "many other ways" gospel, hairy potter, hindooism, etc.
---Trav on 10/4/11


If anyone wants to see a christian, look at their fruits. Another way is just mention Jesus Christ and watch the expressions on faces. Everyone talks about God but no one hardly mentions Jesus Christ. Do you pray in Jesus name? I pray so.
---shira4368 on 10/4/11


Why dont I see the love in Christians...Jesus said they will know us by the LOVE we have for one another?
What you see on this site is some professing to be Christians who have not his spirit and who walk in darkness. You can tell which ones that is by their lies and despicable personal attacks. Good Christians will expose and deny the lies of those posers who actually walk in darkness. You need to use the spirit of discernment, or a little common sense, to see which are the liars and who speaks the truth. We should continue in our love of the posers as we continue to faithfully deny their lies.
---Rocky on 10/3/11


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This being the end times, love has vertually evaporated.
---Steveng on 10/1/11
Wow. Did you get that by personal revelation or do you just no believe where it is written that no one shall know when it comes?
---Rocky on 10/3/11


This being the end times, love has vertually evaporated.

It's a shame that many christians have a good solid definition of the word, but rarely know HOW to apply it or, in many case, affraid to apply it.

Comparing two similar events in my life, thirty years apart, I could personally observe and attest that love has gone out from the christian in today's world.
---Steveng on 10/1/11


May the Lord find my words in order & acceptible. I really love all on here,you all give & share,teach & even rebuke is good! Makes me search 'n Really pray Lord open my understanding. Sister,yes! Do Christians exhibit all those issues,unfortunately,yes! Like when got out of hospital..yearn' get bk to church,people were afraid "Cancer"..I don't change becuz o' cancer.. It's just inspire me (get more closer) to Him,don't fret & worry.. This good place to learn love one another. These folks many give of themselves and search the scriptures..in them we have life! Love of Jesus
---ELENA on 9/29/11


Part 1:Fay I am sorry for the way you feel and the way you see christians. Your view is correct but your thinking and understanding of God's grace is off track. You need to go to God in prayer. Confess your sin in this matter,being, for judging these people. Then ask God to bring peace and love to your mind and heart. Don't let what other fake christians do. Just try to stay focused on Jesus and do what God has called you to do. You have taken your eyes off Christ, so therefore, like Peter, you are sinking in bitterness and judging. The bitterness is going to hurt your faith,testimony and ministry, for Christ. This way is a suffering way,sometimes. GBU
---Robyn on 9/29/11


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It is because such people worship at the altars of their own egos, and deify their own imaginations. Jesus merely plays second fiddle, because what he taught is second place to what they want to do and believe.
---StrongAxe on 9/21/11


Fay, that is because they are not Christians. There are many whom "call" themselves Christian, but in truth they have no Christ, zero Christ is in them, none, but only sin and death abides in them. And yes, you will know each one of them by their rotten NonChristian fruit that they bear.
---Eloy on 9/20/11


It is hard to give or show love to persons who don't want it, or seem to need it. You can cough in church now, or anywhere, and people run from you like they've seen a ghost,or something worse. People don't want to shake hands with you in church. Hugging is out. What is the christian to do? We are living in the end times. People are believing a lie, rather than the truth. Churches are larger and that encourages, more autonomy among the members. Church lets out and the people scatter. No fellowship. Nothing.
---Robyn on 9/15/11


If someone is talking about me, (I'm sure they are) then that gives the other person they were talking about a break. The deadliest weapon we have is our tongue. Our tongue is like God's word, it is sharper than a two-wedged sword and it cuts both ways. When someone talks about me, their talking about God as well.
---Rebecca_D on 2/26/08


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There is only 1 perfect and completely loving person and that is Jesus. The rest of us are still learning. Some of us are in kindergarten; some in High School; all learning real love. Very few are full of love all the time. Some do try harder, just like in school, and some get high marks and some don't. The best thing is to look at Jesus and ask Him to help you be the very best you can be and don't look at other people for your standard. That's what the Bible teaches us. Only Jesus can change anybody and that includes me and you, too. Bless you and don't give up -- He loves you too much.
---Janet on 2/25/08


again I apologize for suzanna. the Bible says, judge not lest ye be judged. that don't mean be picky about what to judge it means don't judge at all. paul said I dont' even judge myself. and don't try to use the force either. the holy spirit may chosse to give you some special discernment in to a life for ministering's sake but that Comes Through Judging Not. it's not for others you don't judge it's for yourself. it takes Your eyes off of God not the judged's
---matthew on 7/31/05


I'm forever constantly hearing this 'judge not buisness' and i am quite frankly sick of it. yes we should JUDGE!and it is true there are hardly any decent so called christians around, all hypocrites most of them
---susanna on 7/31/05


I knew a Charismaniac (deliberately chosen word) in my hometown who complained about "how there's no love" in local Christians, but was herself full of bitterness, spite, foul temper, self-hatred, and general nastiness.

It's not for nothing Jesus said, "Judge not..." Maybe what you perceive as their flaws are what God wants to use to smooth out your own rough spots. Yes, it's a painful process, but how do you think rough rocks become beautiful precious polished jewels?
---Jack on 5/28/05


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If you feed on only one side, you have a false balance and a false balance is an abomination. An unbalanced man is like a vehicle that is unbalanced. He is going to wear out and shake while in motion.
---Linda_Smith on 5/19/05


We are to glory only in the Lord and His cross. The flow of the river of God from within is by grace through faith and if we are seeking to justify ourselves by the law, we are fallen from the very grace that brings the expression of Christ in our lives. We are to feed on the death of Christ just as much as we do the life of Christ.
---Linda_Smith on 5/19/05


Because it is all bound up in their hearts and covered up by "earth". All flesh is as grass and all the glory of man as the flower of the grass. The grass withers and the flower fades, but the Word of the Lord endures forever. This is the Word by which the gospel was preached to you. It is man's flesh, his pride and boastings, His glory in his own righteousness (flesh) that "covers up" and hinders the flow of the righteousness that is of Christ.
---Linda_Smith on 5/19/05


What you are seeing is part of the refining process the Spirit loves to do when He gets us bumping into each other."Iron sharpens iron." As we see the faults in others we can ask "Lord is it I?"We can pray for our brothers and sisters.Ask the Lord to "Renew the right Spirit" in us. As we manifest, envy, anger, pride, shame..its the Spirits way of bringing the scum to the surface.We can ask Him to heal our woundedness.His Word is living in you when you:read,meditate,eat it.
---suzanne on 5/11/05


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Fay:
I am very sad and also puzzeled as to why you got so much "negative press" (reponse) for doing so much good. Are you sure you volunteered in a CHRISTIAN community? If you did, see if you can come up with the answer to my first question. Next, try again, in a non-church related organization and finally don't ever let them walk all over you again. I don't mean for you to get mean but firmly but politly stand your ground! Wishing you God's blessings as you try again!
---Pierr7958 on 5/11/05


Hi Fay, Like someone said, These are the days that the bible told us of, The love of many are waxing cold. But the good news is there are some true christians that do still love, and are striving to love one another, as the word of the Lord tells us to do...The Bible tells us that we could even give our bodies to be burned,but without love it would mean nothing. And that let's us know that no matter what we do, or how much we give,If we don't love one another, all we do and give profits nothing.
---barbara on 5/9/05


this is very true and it is sad to say but alot of so called christians dont have the love but there are many who do i know it is hard to believe. i am proud to be able to say though that i hae sought god and he led me to a church and friends who show nothing but love but there are still a few who claim to be christian but yet they spread gossip and lies about others but they are few the majority are ful of love i also know 2 other places in which are like that you will always have people who dont show love
---andrea on 5/9/05


Julie, I agree with you.
---bethie on 5/9/05


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Yes Fay, there is a great many good brothers and sisters. you can see it in their answers. always wanting to help. Look around as I do and many like Eloy, Cliff, Pierre, and others are there for many. Many sisters too. Always ready to reach out to others, Many others are not to good their conduct is their fruits, and its not very good fruit. We love you Fay, many of us, forget the others.
---Lupe on 5/8/05


Fay, I believe that many put hard work in learning scripture. They take classes in Hermeneutics to interpret correctly so others can learn. That is why they quote it many times. Some are at different levels in learning. many in church are happy to be where they have been since they started. drinking milk all the time. But yet I see the same names of people answering different blogs and that is great. There is many great brothers and sisters, so many that want to reach out to help. Praise God
---Lupe on 5/8/05


Fay; It's a matter of "perception" If you've been to college,you know that "good argumentation" is a learning tool. Jesus attacked the Scribes and Pharisees (religious views) notice that He didn't say "let's try to get along".Because of the many different "denominations"(all with different views)the Christian walk is not a "cake-walk". Consider the various views and learn from them! Not my way or the highway!
---1st_cliff on 5/8/05


I admit I am not as loving as I should be. I will pray about it. Quoting scriptures does not make us unloving and does not mean we are trying to show off. Sharing God's Word is not a bad thing. Jesus quoted scripture.
---Ulrika on 5/8/05


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Pierr...you mention Voluntary work! This is where I see it!! I have worked tirelessly for years in a Christian organization...they have almost destroyed me. Leading people to Christ, and I was attacked, I loved, and was attacked. They gossiped, they slandered my name, I done extra shifts, they broke my heart..crushed my Spirit...voluntary work..for Christians, is soul destroying.
---Fay on 5/8/05


Two reasons we do not see love in other "Christians" is because they have not actually accepted Christ into their hearts. They also may not see our love given to others. I found the answer how to learn to love. "You cannot pray for someone without learning to love that person." It has been so very true in my life. Pray has made me a much more loving person, and I pray my love of Christ and others shows through and is a witness of the love Christ has for each one in this world. God Bless you in your prayer life.
---Patsy on 5/8/05


kevin
dear fay,
pursue love.
1corinthians 14:1
---Kevin on 5/8/05


a777thunder.
as paul wrote in 1 corinthians ch.13 v13
but now we abide in faith, hope, and love (agape)these three; but the greatest of these is love.
---Kevin on 5/8/05


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we know that someday each one of us will stand before God and give an account for how we lived our lives. we must be more loving, more patient, more reverent, more like Jesus. i hope i can clean up so i won't be ashamed of myself.
---curt on 5/8/05


We are in the last days, "And because iniquity will abound, the love of many will grow cold." Matthew 24:12.
---Eloy on 5/8/05


Those that persist in gossipping, attacking others, etc. should take the time and read Rick Warrens book "the purpose driven life", particularly the chapters on maintaining church unity. God will certainly judge people on how well they attempt to get along with their brothers and sisters. And I do not want to fall under that kind of judgement.
---lee on 5/8/05


Fay you need to do a 360 degree turn instead of a 45 degree one then you might get a better picture. It is not all doom and gloom. Unfortunately bad things get around much quicker than the good.
---F.F. on 5/8/05


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Our dear Heavenly Father, as brothers and sisters in Christ and united as one body, we humbly ask Your forgiveness for not consistently loving one another as we are loved. Make us willing to be willing to learn to love each other as You love us. We ask this in Jesus precious Name and give You all the praise, honor and glory for this answer to prayer. Thank You for loving us so much Lord. Amen
---CarolT on 5/8/05


Fay: Sadly, I must agree that the vast majority of self-proclaimed "saved Christians" are not what they claim to be. I know many religious people, but very few godly ones. We must first, however, examine ourselves and let God perfect our own characters. Then we should earnestly pray for those who, like the Laodiceans, thought they were rich and increased with goods and had need of nothing, not realizing that they were wretched, miserable, poor, blind and naked. (Rev 3:17)
---Jerry on 5/8/05


Dear Fay: It has taken me years to realize that I need to refuse to acknowledge the bad ways in folks. We must not judge them either. In other words, "Stand guard on the gateway to your thoughts." Don't let those images and ideas take root inside you. Say to yourself, "God, help them to see a better way." Our Jesus was constantly being put down. He just went on teaching and loving. As He was agonizing on the cross He said, "Forgive them, Father, they know not what they do." If you do as our Jesus did, this won't be a problem for you either.
---Elsie on 5/8/05


Hi -All too often the people who profess Christianity are quite maladjusted and exhibit unChristian behavior. They don't know they are forgiven of their past sins and they still feel less-than. So don't take it personally and don't blame Christ and Christianity for their weak failings. Go on with the Lord and have your close relationship with Him. There is nothing that can separate you and the Lord. Sometimes it comes down to just you and Christ. Bad representation does not change the deity of God our Father. Don't waiver. Be blessed. Judit7553
---judy on 5/8/05


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Hello, Fay. Please don't grieve. Take this positively. The question may not boil down to being a Christian. This might have a cultural color. I wish I would know from what culture you are in so that I can strenghten my point. Your complaints regarding "christian" sound very familiar.
---linda6546 on 5/8/05


Let it start with me. Show love, refuse to listen to gossip..and a good way to do this is when it starts around you, gently GENTLY (a word tough for me to do) let the tongue-wagger hear the words "I don't believe Jesus wants to have us discussing this" come out of your mouth. HUG the hurting, offer to help. Get rowdy with the kids, they love the attention, and the parents love the break. The love you give out will spread. You will get it back too. He promised.
---Julie on 5/7/05


While I was lying in my bed this morning I was thinking the same thing as christians we are not in one accord on this net.Fay you are so right, the lack of charity is so glaring, each one quoting the bible & showing how learned each one is trying to outdo one another. I notice there is a regular set of names that crop up regularly,maybe they are well meaning, but they have the propensity to attack.yes, even each other at times.That is sad in this state of ecumenism.It is not a good example to those of other faiths who log on to this site.IF we are christians there is only one answer.
---Emcee on 5/7/05


Those people you mentioned is only a very small minority in the whole body of Christ. Please, give thanks to our Lord God that you are not one of them.

Be blessed. Love and be loved. Be at peace...in Christ Jesus...
---abba7475 on 5/7/05


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I don't know where you live, but I don't have that experience here. There are always some who pretend to be christian, but we can always know a true christian by the love for his brethren. It is sad that you have experienced that. Someone will answer to God for a testimony like the one you describe.
---shira_5965 on 5/7/05


Hi Fay,
It seems to me that all you are seeing is the evil instead of the good that is all aroung you. I know that we see so much on the tv that is bad but I do know for a fact that a lot of people do good deads.You just have to open your eyes to the good grace5593
---Grace on 5/7/05


Fay
I am not able to agree with your generalization.It is far to pessimistic. You need to stop being so shortsighted.Then you should get involved in voluneering,helping others in need. Soon you will no longer have such a negative view of the Christians around you.
---Pierr7958 on 5/7/05


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