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Roman Soldiers In Heaven Today

When Christ said from the cross, "Father, forgive them, they know not what they do", do you believe that all those who took part in his death were forgiven, even without them asking themselves? Are they in heaven now?

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Only if they received the salvation Jesus died on the cross for, on the day of Pentecost Acts 2 v 38.
---Lawrence on 10/1/14


First of all, eternal salvation is not for us to decide. Eternal salvation is God's business.

I can tell you this, I read where the Centurion and those that were with him said:
Mt 27:54 Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God.

For one to know Christ they must be born of the Spirit. This is evidence of their salvation.
---trey on 10/16/08


Ann5758:
I believe that the Father honored the son's wish that the soldiers be forgiven but this may not have ben the only sins not confessed. We don't know that. But we do know that even under the best scenario, THEY ARE NOT IN HEAVEN NOW! Assuming they are saved they will get their reward at time of 1st resurrection.
---Pierr7958 on 10/16/08


Just because Christ forgave them for what they did to Him is no indication that they believed on Him as saviour.
---Bruce5656 on 12/1/07


If they repented, yes, they would be.
---Albert on 4/20/07




Perhaps a better question is what happened to all the peoples of societies that existed before Christ? One needn't travel as far as the Americas or East Asia to consider this question, there were plenty of Greeks that existed BC, such as Plato & Aristotle -- what of them? The rest of Rome, soldiers included, could be viewed as a pre-Christian society for the most part.
---david on 8/24/06


there were some who believed but didnt make it known..some believed after they killed Him..its too late then. some of us are like these romans...they will leave it till its too late..I believe some roman soldiers who genuinely believe will be saved even tho they obeyed their masters..God only will know their hearts...
---jana on 8/24/06


They are all waiting in their Lots until Judgement Day of the Lord when he comes to begin his Kingdom here on earth.
Many of those who are to be his chosen Jury are with him..in spirit...Moses and many of his Apostles...etc.
When one dies..our Spirits go back from whence it came ..the Life source God...to rest until Jesus comes into his Kingdom here on earth as written in the Bible.
Hope this helps
Blessings
---Michelle on 5/31/05


If they themselves never asked for God to forgive them then no they won't be in heaven. But I believe that some did ask for forgiveness I guess will know when we get to heaven.
---bethie on 5/13/05


I agree with pieare (sorry 4 misspelling)They are not in Heaven right at this moment, or hell, they have to await the first ressurection, if you read in the book of daniel they are resting until the appointed time.
---candice on 5/12/05




I agree with pieare (sorry 4 misspelling)They are not in Heaven right at this moment, or hell, they have to await the first ressurection, if you read in the book of daniel they are resting until the appointed time.
---candice on 5/12/05


Well, if they later believed in Christ as the saviour and Son of God, they would be saved and secure them the heavenly kingdom. This is because no one can be saved except he believes in Jesus as the truth, the way and the life.
---pek on 5/12/05


As students of the scriptures,why not analize this drama. Luke is the only one to record this statement"Father forgive them for they know not what they do" There's no evedence that he was there. John was for sure,possably Matthew. Neither mentioned it! nor even Mark. They knew exactly what they were doing!
---1st_cliff on 5/12/05


Only if they repented. Jesus died 'instead of' every sinner, past, present, and future. Through his death and blood every sin IS already forgiven. What is required by each sinner now is 'repentence of' or 'turning away from' sin, and accepting Jesus Christ as Lord. It was not the Jews nor Romans nor sin that cricified Jesus, it was God! John 3:16,17; HE GAVE. Isaiah 53:10,11; It pleased the Lord to bruise him....He shall see the travail of his soul and be satisfied...
---David on 5/12/05


Jesus always gives us chances to know Him; however, there is only one way to be saved; that is, to repent of our sins, ask Jesus into our hearts (really mean it) and believe. Those who took part in His death really didn't know what they were doing except for the thief beside Him and possibly one Roman soldier who was getting the idea. Jesus always compels us to Himself. God's criteria for heaven is salvation. It's a choice - the answer we give determines our eternal destination.
---Elsie on 5/11/05


God the father sent his son Jesus to redeem the world he prayed Matt26v39 3times.People responsible for his crucifixion were not Jews or Roman but the sins of the world of future generations.They did not recognise him as God,hence the words "Father forgive them"He implored for mercy till the bitter end.Would that we recognise this even today.
This was his SON hear him.
---Emcee on 5/11/05


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Linda, I used to see that scripture to mean same as you do, but on reading your comment, it dawned on me that to acknowledge that Christ was the Son of God is not to be saved. Just look at the demons who said to Jesus, "You are the son of God" and Jesus commanded them to be silent. Even satan knows that Jesus is the son of God but acknowledging it doesnt save them, its asking Him into their hearts that leads to salvation. So, I think we will all just have to wait and see who is in heaven.
---lisa on 5/11/05


I Think there judgement is in the hands of the lord (Isaiah 11:4-5)Rev 1:7
1corinthians 15:15-23/
1 corinthians 15:51-58
God Bless your walk
---gladys on 5/11/05


No. He said that because Satan had them blinded and thinking that he was guilty, when in fact he was 100% innocent and dying for their sins. He knew the Father would surely destroy them all for murdering him. So he was telling the the Father, don't curse them for cursing me, they are deceived, and let my death be payment enough. If any Roman soldier rightened themself with God, then they are saved, but if not then they are still damned.
---Eloy on 5/11/05


I do believe we have record of at least one of the soldiers making a confession. He said, "Truly this man was the Son of God." As for the rest, some of them could be included in those 3,000 that were saved on the Day of Pentecost or within the Gentile nations that came to Christ at the preaching of the Gospel. God knows.
---Linda9974 on 5/11/05


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Forgiveness of sin is offered to every man and woman and was done because of what Jesus did. It never has been contingent upon our asking but upon God's purpose to reconcile all men to Himself. The Lamb slain was the provision before Adam ever fell. Whether someone receives that forgiveness is another matter altogether.
---Linda9974 on 5/11/05


We do not know if any of the soldiers or others that took part in His death recieved that offer of forgiveness. But HE spoke it and and the one thief ehard it and accepted that forgiveness. So the spoken words were not in vain.
I believe the others had the opportunity to recieve.
---Rachel on 5/11/05


No, they are waiting for thier judgement when christ comes
---Megg on 5/11/05


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