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What Is The Unworthy Manner

From 1 Corinthians 11:27-34 What is an unworthy manner?

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"bad manners" by the participants, being disrespectful or not respecting Jesus' personal sacrifice for them. They came to the passover communion and had zero regard for Jesus, zero worshipping in Spirit, but instead they hastily wolfed down their bread and wine as though they were greedily eating without attaching any heartfelt remembrance of Jesus' sacrificial death.
---Eloy on 1/31/11


usually the 20-20 rule helps, 20 verses before, 20 after
---bill on 1/30/11


in mortal sin
---jonas on 3/14/08


Jesus said at his last Passover supper, which communion is, that as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup to do so in remembrance of him, for it repreasents his body and blood sacrifice. So to partake unworthily would be to not discern that it represents Jesus as the innocent passover lamb who was slaughtered for our own personal sin; but instead just greedily eating and drinking because of being hungry and thirsty, thus do unworthily at thier own homes, but not when assembling for communion.
---Eloy on 8/22/07


Paul's instruction does not start in verse 27 but verse 20. It does not end in verse 34 but continues on into the next several chapters where Paul is talking about unity of the body and the nature of love. In vv. 27-34, he is not giving instruction as much as he is chastising them for their poor treatment of each other. The "Unworthy manner" is "Not discerning the Lord's body." This relates to the divisive spirit and their lack of respect for each other.
---Bruce5656 on 3/28/07




Linda:I know I came on strongly& it is I that should do the apologising.I have a great respect for all ladies without exception, As a Catholic I try to practice"Love one another as I have loved you"So any choice of words I selected,if they were ungentlemanly, I, it is who stand corrected.I am very close to Jesus & his oly Mother & have numerous happenings in my life to say so with Humility.
---Emcee on 5/22/05


Emcee, since I cannot retract something that I have already posted, I will apologize to you publicly and ask your forgiveness for "arguing" with you. I have no need to prove a point. You are an elder in regards to age and wisdom and I respect you. Again, I have no problem with truth that is in Christ and if you are in Christ, then you are accepted as you are. Bless you.
---Linda_Smith on 5/22/05


The remark I was responding to was the fact that you believe that, because you were "called good ever since you were 7" and " "I" have maintained that" makes you righteous before God. You in and of yourself can maintain nothing. Only the One who holds your heart can maintain it. All else is foolish boasting. Are you righteous because you are born again of incorruptible seed or are you righteous because you have followed the rules?
---Linda_Smith on 5/22/05


I have no problem with stating a fact or agreement with God. You can go back to several blogs on this site and find that I fully believe that I am the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus because He who knew no sin was made to be sin for me. My life now is hid with Christ in God and that is an abundant, victorious life beyond a shadow of a doubt.
---Linda_Smith on 5/22/05


Linda & Eloy If stating a fact causes you to conclude I brag,when I am nothing but chaff& tares that relegates me to the fires.but before that read Matt5:11 Before Recieving we always say Lord "I am not worthy to recieve you but only say the word & my soul will be healed"This is meant as a clarification.
---Emcee on 5/22/05




Again, it is the manner with which one eats, not the person himself. Apart from faith, there is condemnation.
---Linda_Smith on 5/22/05


Emcee, yes the tares grow beside the wheat, but it will not always be so.
---Eloy on 5/22/05


Emcee, I didn't realize that there was any other point except Christ and Him crucified. You can continue to boast in your own righteousness. As for me, I will continue to boast in nothing but the cross.
---Linda_Smith on 5/21/05


If you read the complete letter; that question is clearly answered. Of course we know that Jesus, a Jew was celebrating the passover, a mandatory holiday for the Jewish People. (Space is limited here to go into detail)Read and you shall find out. Some used it as a regular supper instead of a holy command and the symbolism soon to be accomplished in the sacrifice of the Lamb, Jesus.
---Eloisa on 5/21/05


Linda smith :you have missed the whole point He who eats MY body & drinks MY blood I live in him & He in me Jesus's words---He who eats unworthily is guilty of condemnation.
Eloy;The RCC WAS INSTITUTED BY CHRIST, I will be with you always even till the end of TIME.Scripture is Jesus's words.This RCC still stands to this day inspite of persecution& growing.!!!
---Emcee on 5/21/05


If you compare verses, there is one that tells what that means. Something like, 'If you have anything against you brother go back and make things right and then come back and offer yourself.'
---gregg4933 on 5/21/05


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I must wash my hands before I eat at my mother and father's supper table. In some way I am free to confess my sins 1 John 1:9 before or at the Lord's table. Guarantee - we are forgiven from all unrighteousness. Bible talks about clean hands and a pure heart. But somehow I think the table was for fellowship and friendship. It was good to eat supper with my parents. It should bring even greater joy to be in harmony with God and his people.
---Barbara67 on 5/20/05


Barbara,
While I think that he was specifically addressing the "How have I treated the chruch" (fellow christians) question, I agree with your analysis. All these things are an element of what Paul was talking about. Your outline would make a great sermon.

This issue of factions in the chruch is first introduced in ch 1:10-13 and keeps popping up throughout the book. Their divisive attitude is what started the whole discussion of the "Lord's table".
---Bruce5656 on 5/20/05


Emcee, it is evident that you accept things that are taught by the RCC, though they are not spoken by God. However, as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord. The bread and wine at communion are not transformed into God, they are mere implements.
---Eloy on 5/20/05


So I have concluded that unworthy does mean

a. my person - Do I believe?
How have I treated God?
How have I treated the church?

b. my attitudes. -
What have I done with my belief?
How have I treated others - both inside and outside the church?

c. the actual communion act
Do I recognize the Lord's death and resurrection and his gift of the reminder of Himself among us.
---barbara67 on 5/20/05


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Have reread.
There is the answer in 17-22

Am I a believer?
1. Do I despise the church of God?
2. Do I humiliate those who have nothing?
3. Do I understand/believe that the Supper is a reminder of the grace of God?

Am I "I" centred or do I understand that the church is God centred and designed for his pleasure and worship and delight?
Do I recognize God's eternal discipline and judgment.

So how am I doing?
---Barbara67 on 5/20/05


By the way, with all due respect, this isn't about us putting anything on a table for Jesus. This is about what the Lord of Glory has already put on the table and has invited everytone to partake of.
---Linda_Smith on 5/20/05


It's great that you were taught that you were a "good" boy but I am so glad that I came to know my own sinfulness and need for a Savior. I don't tell my children they are good. I tell them God is good and Jesus is righteous and it is only by union with Him that we are anything at all. If we could clean up our own hearts before we sat down at the table, we would not need to eat what is on the table (His broken body and His blood) to begin with...nor would we need Jesus.
---Linda_Smith on 5/20/05


In the OT, folks could not touch a leper because it would make them unclean. However, in the NT, you find Jesus reaching right out and touching the leper. He was not made unclean by the leper but the leper was made clean by Jesus. By your counsel, you are running off those who would come to the table of the Lord by faith in what He has done instead of their own ability to be good.
---Linda_Smith on 5/20/05


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There is no way you can liken Jesus coming into someone's heart to putting a meal on a dirty table. It is the Lord Jesus Christ coming into the heart that prepares the "table" and cleanses it. Jesus was made to be sin with our sin so it isn't sin that moves Him away. It is unbelief. If I had a dirty chair in my house and Jesus came in and sat on it, that chair would be cleansed by Him and not Him "dirtied" by the chair.
---Linda_Smith on 5/20/05


Linda Smith:-thank you for calling me "good boy"@age 80 I am honoured.Yes that's what I was taught at age 7 & have maintained it.Just reflect for a minute when you prepare a meal do you put it on a dirty table or dirty clothfor your honoured guests.That is what you do when you receive the Body & Blood of Jesus in a dirty(sin) heart.I am not preaching I am just explaining "unworthy Manner".
---Emcee on 5/20/05


"But Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to them that believe."

"For the law made nothing perfect but the bringing in of a better hope did, by which we draw nigh to God."
---Linda_Smith on 5/19/05


So Emcee, I am understanding by your response that you were clean BEFORE you invited Jesus into your heart? MY...you were a good boy, weren't you?

"And the rich young ruler said, All these commandments I have kept from my youth. And Jesus said to him, sell all that you have and come follow Me. And the young ruler went away sad." (paraphrase)
---Linda_Smith on 5/19/05


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Eloy you are right Bring in the flock from highways & biways & partake BUT NOT UN-WORTHILY.if you are not in the state of grace you are unworthy.How can you equate sin with god,inviting him into your heart which is unclean,that is what sin does to us, by breaking his law
---Emcee on 5/19/05


Emcee, i am saddened to read about your misperception of sin and communion, you have been taught wrong by your religion. God's Word says that "All" can come to the Lord's table, and "none" to be refused. Scripture says that we are to go out into the highways and biways and compell them to come in and partake of His sacrifice.
---Eloy on 5/19/05


PART ONE:
I agree with Linda, unworthy describes an action not a person. In this case the action Paul was speaking of is found in verses 17-22

1 Corinthians 10:16,17 Paul introduces the theme that will dominate the next few chapters: UNITY. This is in response to the an attitude that ministry gifts were a sign of one being more "spiritual" than another resulting in a "I'm more important than you." attitude and for the utter lack of respect they had towards each other.
---Bruce5656 on 5/19/05


PART TWO:
Chapter 11:17-22 describes the manner in which they met to share what they were calling the Lord's supper
v.v. 23-25 describes the original Lord's supper.
v. 26 the true purpose of the Lord's supper (literally you do preach the Lord's death)
v. 27 the possibility of partaking unworthily
v. 28 self-examination encouraged
29 ...that eateth and drinketh unworthily, NOT DISCERNING THE LORD'S BODY.
v. 30 results of partaking unworthily
v.v. 31,32 reason for self-examination
---Bruce5656 on 5/19/05


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PART THREE:
v.v 33,34 Back to his original point and here he SPECIFICALLY states what he has in mind by "unworthily"

33,34 WHEREFORE, my brethren, when ye come together to eat, TARRY ONE FOR ANOTHER. (in contrast to the total lack of regard they had toward each other) 34 And if any man hunger, let him eat at home; THAT YE COME NOT TOGETHER UNTO CONDEMNATION (the result of partaking unworthily). And the rest will I set in order when I come.
---Bruce5656 on 5/19/05


PART FOUR:
In Chapter 12:1-11 he teaches that the gifts are given at the discretion of the Holy Spirit and are not a sign of spirituality.
Then he gets back to the theme UNITY OF THE BODY v.v. 12-27 and in
Chapter 13 he tells them how love behaves which is very unlike how they had been treating each other.
---Bruce5656 on 5/19/05


PART FIVE:
THIS is the context in which v 29 is to be understood.

So, to partake unworthily, is to have the attitude you are better or of more importance in the body than someone else, or conversely that they are of less importance, THAT is not understanding the LORD's BODY. Not understanding the essential relationship we have with each other as Christians. That we are all EQUAL in the body of Christ.
---Bruce5656 on 5/19/05


PART SIX:
Other suitable applications may be drawn from this passage (See Linda's comments below for example) but I believe if you read from Chapter 10:16 through Chapter 13:13 it can be seen that this is the specific thing that Paul had in mind for the Corinthian's situation.
---Bruce5656 on 5/19/05


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The only way to remain with a charge of "guilty" against you is to not receive the Lord Jesus Christ by grace through faith. This is the condemnation, that men loved darkness more than light and they would not come to the light because their deeds were evil. A OT picture of this would be found in the story of Mephibosheth. He was lame (couldn't walk the walk) but was given a place of honor at the table of the king because of covenant.
---Linda_Smith on 5/19/05


To take the bread and wine unworthily means to take it when we are in a state of sin ourselves (ones we have not repented of) or are not being forgiving to others. We must have a clean slate before accepting Holy Communion. If there is anger, hatred, jealousy, unforgiveness etc. in your heart let the bread and wine pass you by. Go home, pray about it privately and get right with God yourself before taking Communion.
---Xanthi on 5/19/05


Even the One who has the power to condemn does not condemn but justifies the ungodly. Again, unworthy defines the manner one partakes (apart from faith) and NOT the person who partakes. Even if you use the KJV and see the word "unworthily", you still have the same thing. Unworthily is an adverb and adverbs modify actions not persons, places, or things.
---Linda_Smith on 5/19/05


That is all part of the proper discerning of the body of the Lord and one can partake of natural bread and wine and still miss the spiritual food necessary for growth. We have managed to take the word discernment and make it something we use to judge another brother or sister in Christ.
---Linda_Smith on 5/19/05


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We must discern His body in His work (the death, burial, and resurrection), His body as one with many members in joint union with the resurrected and seated Christ, and His body in the form of a priesthood bearing bread and wine in its hands (Gen.14). The hand of the Lord (the five-fold ministry) is a gift to the body of Christ for the purpose of the equipping of the saints.
---Linda_Smith on 5/19/05


One is either trusting in his own righteousness or in the work of Christ that justified and made whole. Boasting or trusting in anything but the Lord and His cross would not be faith and would be to partake in an unworthy manner. That is why Paul speaks of properly discerning the Lord's body. Improper discernment will bring weakness, sickness, and premature death.
---Linda_Smith on 5/19/05


Unworthy in this Scripture is not an adjective modifying the PERSON who eats and drinks. It modifies the manner in which one eats and drinks. If you miss that, you will call unworthy that which GOD HAS CALLED worthy by the blood of Jesus. Two cannot walk together except they be agreed. When one comes to the table of the Lord, it must be by faith in the finished work of Christ and not in one's own glory or the lack thereof.
---Linda_Smith on 5/19/05


Read it again, the answer is in the question.
---Julie on 5/18/05


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Meaning that you have to believe God and not to have sin in your heart. It says to examine yourself, meaning have God to search your heart so it is pure and not of sin.
---Rebecca_D on 5/18/05


UNWORTHY MANNER refers to any one who while in the state of sin especially mortal sin,approaches & partakes of the holy Eucharist which is the body & blood of Jesus,is guilty of condemnation.those who make a fervent act of contrition prior to recieving is absolved,but in the RC church a confession is required as soon as possible.God is Sinless & you are inviting him into your heart which is unworthy this is defiling God who is all Pure,hence it is wrong.
---Emcee on 5/18/05


Apart from faith in who Jesus is and what He has done.
---Linda_Smith on 5/18/05


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