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Why Do So Many Christians Lie

Why do so many conservative Christians of ANYBODY'S church tell lies in the name of Jesus? It doesn't matter what label they wear or church they attend. So many sites with lies and slander and misinformation and other untruths about those who disagree with them--I'm sickened.

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 ---Jack on 5/25/05
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Lee1538:

Still waiting for your answer...

If the Father accepted Abraham who had faith AND kept OUR FATHER'S statues, laws.

Why would the Father rejects those who do the same WALK as Abraham?
---Paul9594 on 4/6/10


Lee: Nice tap dance and counter-accusation. You even picked up a fan - mima. But the burning question remains unanswered:

Do you or do you not teach against the Ten Commandments? That issue is between you, your God and His word. It has nothing to do with me or my perceived righteousness, so try to stay focused this time.

And mima, a YES or NO answer would be clear and concise.
---jerry6593 on 4/7/10


mima//His answer is clear concise and correct.

It is those 'clear, concise & correct' answers that have them on the horns of the truth.

While I can to some extent respect their viewpoints, they simply do not take into account that fact that scripture must be interpreted in the light of Scripture. They ignore too much of what is stated in Scripture.

Of course, the major problem is that they are determined to follow false teachers who believe that righteousness comes from obedience to the law, esp. the Sabbath commandment. Such spirits did much the same to our Lord while He was on earth and even brought Him to the Cross.
---Lee1538 on 4/6/10


I totally agree with the answer given by---Lee1538 on 4/6/10. His answer is clear concise and correct.
---mima on 4/6/10


Jerry - so you believe I teach against the 10 commandments? One of the 10 commandments you consistently disobey is the one that involves slander.

While I will admit my sinfulness, you are obviously blinded to yours believing God would be very impressed with your self righteousness.

Unlike you, I do not hold one is righteous through obedience to law.

Gal. 2:21 I do not nullify the grace of God, for if justification were through the law, then Christ died for no purpose.

To be justified means to be declared righteous, and that is what God views me and all others that are in Christ. 1 Cor. 1:30.

The SDA know little of the Bible or the Gospel message as theirs is strictly a Judaizing works salvation. Mt. 15:14
---Lee1538 on 4/6/10




Cherry picked I call the care package for the gentiles given to Paul in Acts 15. But we know that Paul taught more than that. Besides, they themselves kept to the teaching of Moses. Paul taught, Ephesians 6:2: "Honour thy father and mother, (which is the first commandment with promise,)". Yet, he felt no obligation, nor a requirement to teach much of the 600+. Where I do not believe that circumcicion, Sabbath, and dietary laws..., are requirement to the gentile church, we can't generalize "600+" as if it was a curse, when Paul taught at least that one, even part of the ten. Any law which teaches or implement judgement, mercy and faith, I believe it is binding on all Christians.
---Nana on 4/6/10


Lee: "And do I teach against the law? Which ones"

The Ten Commandments!
---jerry6593 on 4/6/10


Jerry - Re: Mt. 5:17 I still find myself in disagreement with you that Christ did not fulfill the law and that we are still under the Old Covenant distribution.

If you are under the Old Cov, then you must observe ALL of the 600+ laws not cherry picked ones not found within the New covenant.

And do I teach against the law? Which ones, provide New Testament chapter & verse, Please.
---Lee1538 on 4/5/10


Lee:

Mat 5:17-19 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

What do you think you are called in heaven? You continually teach the breaking of God's Law.
---jerry6593 on 4/5/10


//Why do so many conservative Christians of ANYBODY'S church tell lies in the name of Jesus?

Because all too many conservative Christians obey the teachings of religion rather than the teachings of Christ.

One even put restrictions of what day we must observe and even on what we may or not eat. That is religion, not what Christ has taught.

Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

And there are too many in the church today that have succcumbed to religious philosophy.
---Lee1538 on 4/3/10




Jerry //When Christ forgave the adultress, He didn't tell her to go back to adultery, He said "GO AND SIN NO MORE."

But you do continue to sin do you not Jerry?

If you say you do not then you ignore the Scripture -

1Jo 1:8 If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

Yes Jerry, we all realize that you believe observing the Sabbath & the Levitical dietary laws will help you merit your salvation. But salvation is in Jesus not in obedience to OT laws.
---Lee1538 on 4/3/10


Alan: Last time I checked, "thou shalt not inadvertently booze" was not one of the Ten Commandments. It is they which define sin. It is the willful breach of the Commandments that is sin. Even temptation is not sin, as Christ was tempted but sinned not.
---jerry6593 on 4/3/10


Jerry ... An alcoholic does not have a "genetic predisposition to alcohol"

He has a medical condition (created during the time when he drank excessively) whereby any consumption of alcohol, however small, triggers off the old craving.

Those who have learned to live without it are subject, as was my friend who unknowingly drank a spiked soft drink. She had no idea what had happened and why she suddenly craved.

Don't tell me that she sinned. If you do you call her a liar.
---alan8566_of_uk on 4/3/10


Alan: I'm sticking with the simile. An alcholic may indeed have a genetic predisposition to alcohol, but he may (with difficulty) learn to live without it. We humans have a sinful nature, but we can be empowered to overcome our sins if we choose to accept the new heart that Christ offers us. If this is not the case, then the Bible is a lie, and Satan is more powerful than Christ, in that he can tempt us to sin but Christ is too weak to keep us from sinning. I don't buy that. Do you?
---jerry6593 on 4/3/10


What they should say is "I'm a former sinner, but by grace I'm learning to live without it." When Christ forgave the adultress, He didn't tell her to go back to adultery, He said "GO AND SIN NO MORE."
---jerry6593 on 4/2/10

You are 100% correct. Infact many christians would rather identify with their past sins, and status as sinner, then thier current righteousness by faith and being a son of God.

But I love what the bible says about Job:
Job 1:22 In all this Job sinned not, nor charged God foolishly.
---francis on 4/2/10


Jerry ... You are right to a certain extent about sin ... but it is wrong to say with that you are a FORMER sinner, and that you sin no more. The arrogance, anger and judgmentalism shown here by some who claim to sin no more, are themselves sins. The Bible says there's been no one without sin, except Jesus.

And your parallel example sadly perpetuates the lie that drunkeness is the same as alcoholism. I have known drunks who were not alcoholics. Alcoholism is a medical or bodily condition caused as a result of excessive consumption of alcohol, which may have been years ago. Even if the person still does not drink, he may/she may still suffer from alcoholism.
---alan8566_of_uk on 4/2/10


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Donna66, Francis: You both make good points. Many Christians look at grace as almost a license to sin, as opposed to grace being the imputed power to overcome sin.

One of the problems is the splitting of time between past and present. Like the FORMER drunks at the AA meetings who say "I'm an alcholic," they say "I'm a sinner," or "we're all sinners." What they should say is "I'm a former sinner, but by grace I'm learning to live without it." When Christ forgave the adultress, He didn't tell her to go back to adultery, He said "GO AND SIN NO MORE."
---jerry6593 on 4/2/10


Why do so many christians lie.

very simple.
Most churches refer to thier members as SINNERS SAVED BY GRACE
No christian is a sinner saved by grace. We are sons, and daughters of God, saints of the most high God, priest servants of God, hiers together with christ, children of the most high God.

But we are called SINNERS SAVED BY GRACE which is not in the bible.

You tell somone that he is a SINNER saved by grace, eventually he fogets the SAVED by GRACE part, and allows the SINNER part to shine.

So soon it does not matter when and if we lie,OR SIN, after all we are just SINNERS SAVED BY GRACE
---francis on 4/1/10


Ed ---Donna

What make you think that if the truth is not in them I would concern myself with what they take as offencive.

Well, I had thought you might want to SHOW them the truth. But if you offend people, they are not likely to listen to anything you say.

You can point out the falsehood of what they say, acknowleging their probable sincerety (as you did in your response to me). Then tell them what is the truth and why.

Or if you are really as unconcerned as you say, you can just walk on...
---Donna66 on 4/1/10


Donna

What make you think that if the truth is not in them I would concern myself with what they take as offencive. Remember Jesus said "And blessed is he who is not offended because of Me".
I was saying not to Judge them by presuming they were telling a lie. Most people learn the Scripture in a church or through someone telling them. Many of these teaching are wrong but they don't study the word with an open heart, or at all. So what they say they believe, even if is not the truth, is what they believe, and not an out and out lie.
PEACE
---Ed on 4/1/10


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Ed... "If the Truth is not in them then tell them that"

Most people would take as much offense at hearing this, as being accused of lying. Why not just say, "no, the truth is...."? Tell them why. You don't have to make any judgement about them personally.
---Donna66 on 3/30/10


Brother and Sisters Stop.

Don't accuse your fellow Christian of a lie.
To say that, is to say they know, there are telling something that is not true. It may well be, and is most likely, that they are saying what they have been taught. We are not to Judge them, we do not know what is in there hearts. If the Truth is not in them then tell them that. But don't say they know the truth and lie about it. For that is Judgement. Love and do unto them as you would have them do unto you.
Peace and Love be with you all.
---Ed on 3/30/10


Oh, Leslie... almost every one who contributes to these blogs says they follow the Word of God and believe it exclusively.
But their beliefs are not identical.

Are you saying only those that believe as you do are "real" Christians.
GOD knows those who are HIS. HE knows the hearts of men. Please understand that that you may not.
---Donna66 on 3/29/10


Most "Christians" lie because they are NOT truly saved, they are FALSE converts - NOT really Christians. You can tell the TRUE Christians from the false, in the fact that the TRUE Christians ONLY go with what the Bible (God's opinion) says, NOT man's (others or their own) opinion of what it says.
---Leslie on 3/29/10


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If one fears God, he will attempt to speak the truth. I think that most people including Christians have told lies. If you find yourself lying, then stop and ask for Gods forgiveness and seek to speak the truth. Jesus died and arose from the dead for such. Those who willfully and continually sin, have no more sacrifice for sin since they continue to nail Jesus to the cross with their lifestyle. However, even they can repent if they could choose to. I pray that they will repent and seek God.
---jody on 3/29/10


Oh my goodness I know exactly what you mean. If you are indeed a true, on some of these made-up Christian-sites, chances are you will not last for long. They will boot you off.....Out you go.
---catherine on 3/29/10


Christians who claim they cannot sin have some "splainin" to do. But most Christians acknowledge that Christians can and do sin, ...even in their ongoing effort to avoid sin.
Lying has become so habitual in our culture, that we may not even notice it at times. But "Lies in the name of Jesus"?
What does this mean? (Are they knowingly telling an untruth "in Jesus' name"? or are they simply in error.)
Everyone believes some "misinformation" at times. Slander is sin. And there is way too much of it among Christians...esp. on these blogs.
---Donna66 on 3/28/10


It should come as no surprise that many who call themselves Christian should lie, since they think that they are "under grace" or "under the new covenant" and that that means they not longer have to obey the Ten Commandments, and it's proscription of lying.
---jerry6593 on 3/29/10


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I agree, however, I also call myself a christian. At this time I am not affiliated with any christian organizations. But, I am trying to do my daily readings of the bible and follow Gods Laws. When I say I am a Christian, I am saying that I believe that God gave his son as a ransom for our sins. I believe that if I should make it, everlasting life will be. I believe that God is speaking to us through the bible and all that he has said will manifest itself in the near future. But that is me.
---felissa on 3/28/10


Anyone can misapply and misappropriate the name "Christian" to themself or to their church, when they are in fact not Christian, but rather wolves in sheep's clothing: just as there are also unholy bibles which mistitle their covers with "Holy Bible" when they are not God's words written on the pages. "You will know them by their fruits, for the tree is known by the fruits that they bear."
---Eloy on 3/27/10


Christians lie because first and foremost they are lying to themselves. How can they be honest with others when they can't admit a lot of things to themselves?

I'm sure everyone will be howling this is so untrue, but I have been on this planet 45 years and I have seen a lot of things. Saying that religious people are unusually honest simply does not correspond to reality, and the people who deny this the most are the ones most heavily involved in self-deception.

And I am not an atheist, but see no point in lying to myself that I have special insights about God, that mysteriously coincide with my own self-interests, as well as geographic location.
---john on 3/25/10


Alan, I didn't know to click the name to find out when someone posted. Second, I want to admit I was wrong on the matter of love thy enemies. I remember once telling you that I didn't think it meant to forgive and love those who molest children and murders. That Jesus meant a different love for others. We are to sacrifice ourselves for others but wrong that even if someone is a murderer or molester, Jesus still wants us to love them. I had a talk with our pastor and he not only gave the passages but told me that Jesus standards are the highest. And that is why we think he doesn't meant that but He does.
You were right and I was wrong. He does call us to love everyone. We know it hard but His standards are the highest. Thanks Alan, peace
---MarkV. on 8/9/09


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Mark .., If you click on Eloy's name at the foot of his post, you will find all his other posts, the latest of which was on 15th May. Not as long ago as I thought, but he does seem to have stopped blogging on this site.

A pity really, because he was valuable in demonstrating the dangers of thinking oneself is always totally right.

Like you I found it offensive that he should claim to have suffered more than Jesus
---alan8566_of_uk on 8/9/09


A liar is someone who consciencely lies. This person knows that he lied. The Lord is very displeased with liars. The Bible clearly tells us in Rev 21:8 that liars (etc) do not inherit the kingdom of God.

Keep a clean consciense before God. Have the fear of God in your heart. If you make a mistake admit your lie to the person you lied to and confess it to God. He forgives those who sincerely repent and sincerely want to abide in Him and live to obey the Holy Spirit.

Don't think you can get away with lying and God won't care. One sin starts out small and starts to escalade, in other words: one lie leads to more lies. Nip it in the bud and get right with God. God gives us a chance to repent before we meet Him (see Rev.)
---Anne on 8/9/09


Alan, really? I thought I saw him answer a few blogs but I don't remember which ones. That is ok Alan. I believe I still have a grudge against him. I admit that. I need to get over it. I guess hearing him say what he did, was really a shock to me. I never heard a Christian say such things about Christ, the Person who died for him, whom he says he loves, and it stayed in my heart. No one speaks bad of the person they love. That is not love. Even now when I think about it again, it disturbs me in the spirit a whole lot. I was so angry when he did that I admit I am not over it yet and I need to get my heart clear of it. I will ask God to help me get over that. Thanks Alan.
---MarkV. on 8/8/09


Mark .... Eloy last appeared here months ago, and his post here is years ago! I don't think he will respond!
---alan8566_of_uk on 8/8/09


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Eloy hasn't been around in months...let's give him some peace and pray for his wellness.
---Anne on 8/8/09


"Therefore receive one another, just as Christ also received us, to the glory of God." (Romans 15:7) > "with longsuffering" , we have in Ephesians 4:2 > so, God knows that even with real Christians there will be what is wrong, that we will discover, and He says to have longsuffering . . . like Jesus has with us > "And be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God in Christ forgave you." (Ephesians 4:32) And if I become real in this, myself, this will make me able to detect and connect with whoever else is into this. Plus, if I want a real woman, I need to become a real man (o: so I am how Jesus wants, so He will trust me with a real sister of His (o:
---Bill_bila5659 on 8/8/09


Eloy, I am answering because of your statement about liars, I believed you distorted the real Truth when you said you suffered more then Christ. That was a complete distortion of the Truth to show you had it hard in life. Yes, Jesus didn't have to clean any dirty toilets as you stated before, but He died in order for you to have life, something you never did for anyone. You might have suffered differently but not more then Him. So all truth tellers are not whom they seem to be. The tree is known by its fruit, but many trees develope bad fruit. The bad fruit is thrown away because it is waste and only the good fruits servives.
---MarkV. on 8/8/09


Jane: God bless you. I have found an interesting statistic. There is about the same ratio of good-to-lousy people inside the church as there are outside. I have also found that the proportion of truly godly people in a church (the denomination doesn't matter) is quite low. I guess it's just human nature, and if we don't have Christ within us, then we're only human, and act like it. But we don't have to be that way. One righteous person can make a difference in any situation. I think that's our job as Christians, isn't it? To help others to find the path to God?
---jerry6593 on 8/8/09


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I worked in public alternative education run by "Christians." There were no grade-level texts, my books / supplies were stolen by staff, attendance was falsified, and grant funding used for other puposes. A student was resisting an abortion, I sent her to the principal who was very publically against abortion. I heard him laugh about her abortion as "I guess she changed her mind." All of this done under the Name of Christ. Rather than complain I kept quiet for fear of hurting the cause of Christ. Someone anonymously compained about some of these things. The "Christians" gossiped and said it was me. I did not complain. I am having trouble finding another job, and I would appreciate prayer.
---Jane on 8/7/09


i am sickened and my soul has been crushed by christians who point blank lie and lie in the name of jesus and about jesus and about god. im not in the twilight zone but might as well be, one woman said when i shake someones hand i am not shaking their hand i am shaking gods hand? yeah i stopped being religious becuase i am just plain and simple not going to make stuff up about god and jesus and hold others accountable to it
---kathryn on 7/8/09


Jack. Christians are not perfect people. We make mistakes,bad judgements all of the time. We will never be perfect in this world. So we need to stop trying to be. Just try to be better and ask God to help us with our shortcomings and failings. I confess and ask forgiveness each day. Let me share this with you,my friend. We are Christians because we understand our failings and character defects. This is why we need Jesus. Begin to look at things this way and you will heal from this sickness you are bearing,real quick.You are "sickened" because of a lack of knowledge.
---Robyn on 10/28/08


I have always considered myself a liar. It is my belief that if you have told one lie you are a liar. Therefore it is pretty obvious to me that I myself am a liar.
Based on the same criteria are you a liar?
Are liars not forgiven? Is lying the unforgivable sin?
I find myself having to guard against telling something that is just a little bit shaded my way, in my favor.
---mima on 10/28/08


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To Whosoever has an ear to hear?

Yes!! There are those who wish to intentionally deceive & destroy others by trying to make them as sick & as pessimistic as they are about life.

Just remember to try all things in the Spirit because whether intentionally or unintentionally, not everyone that says "Lord Lord" is of the Lord!! Just like not everyone who says "Christian Christian" is a Christian following Christ.

Optimistic means to be "hopeful" and I believe we need to be optimistic of being edified at all times and realize that no one has perfect understanding of the Word of God because we will also run into those who are looking to earnestly edify us but unintentionally lead them astray.
---Shawn_M.T. on 10/27/08


I live someone who does this. His claim of being a Christian is the hook he used. Once I was dependent on him for a roof over my head, which I paid for, the tree showed its fruit. He is now off and running with other women, doing the same thing all over again. What really bothers me, is that I pastor allows him to preach and play music at various services.
---Lynn on 10/26/08


Liars are not Christians. Any who say Christians are sinners, blasphemes, calling Jesus and we saints liars, and does despite to the saving grace of God. The tree is known by the fruit that it bears. Liars bear lies, and truth-tellers bear truths. Not all people are liars, and not all people tell the truth, for there are both liars and truth-tellers in the world. It is sin to name a truth-teller a liar, and also equally a sin to call a liar a truth-teller.
---Eloy on 12/31/06


Jack,do not be disheartened; Men of good will will continue to exist within the confines of those who claim Righteousness ,LIES are the ploy of Satan & is existant in all facets of life,like pot holes in the road of our destiny causing us to trip & stumble.That is why the road of salvation is winding & narrow & few it is who will find it.Keeping in His grace,observing His sacraments & teachings is the perfection we are asked to achieve.My blessings on this achievement & all the best in 2007
---Emcee on 12/31/06


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You say the christians had abolished slavery,in England slavery was abolished. But why not in the US it took a war to do so. You say you This United States is a country founded on Christianity The VERY FIRST AMENDMENT of the constitution is based on the Separation of church and state. The paramount reason why the forefathers came to this country was for religious freedom. These are some of the lies
---daryl on 12/31/06


Jack, and what are those lies you so accuse us of please. what are the slander and misinformation and untruths? Am sure many on this blog would like to know. WHAT ARE THE LIES IF ANY/
---jana on 9/27/06


Why do Christians lie? Why do Christian church leaders,those whom others in the church look up to lie?
---Ben on 1/4/06


8 Be self-controlled and alert. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour.( 1 peter 5: 8)
---vilmavivi_ on 6/14/05


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"..believe not every spirit, but try the spirits by the spirit..", Gal.6:1>10. I Jn.4:1>6. If you're a real follower of Christ, do as He did when politics was used to entrap or ensnare Him etc, "...render to Caesar what is Caesar's, and to God what is God's"! Jesus knew who He was! Don't blame a mule if someone enters it in a horse race! I'm conservative by religion and politics, having heard things said and done on both sides that are not Godly. But, I know my Shepherd's voice!
---Elishama on 6/12/05


lisa, according to God's word, there are only 2 races in this world: the saved and sanctified holy, children of God; and the condemned unregenerate sinner, children of the devil. Please read I John chapter 3.
---Eloy on 6/2/05


Eloy, are you suggesting that paul the apostle didn't walk humbly with God? He gave his life for the gospel sake? Yet he acknowledges in the book of Romans that he sins continually and he teaches us that it is the sin nature at work in us and thank God, he says we have a saviour Jesus Christ who forgives us every time. Admitting that you are a sinner and you sin and seeking forgiveness and repenting is truly walking humbly with God. Eloy, it sounds like you are in complete denial about yourself.
---lisa on 5/31/05


lisa, Who's fighting? The man who walks humbly with God does not sin.
---Eloy on 5/31/05


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Eloy,your fight is not with me, it is with God's word for it is written that "any man who claims to not sin calls God a liar. You will say, "I used to sin, but not anymore". Even this is an impossibility, everyone, including yourself, knows it. If if be true, the christian has no need for grace once he is saved yet there r many scriptures on grace 4 the christian. It may bless you to do a study on the word grace. You will discover, the man who walks humbly with God is overflowed with grace.
---lisa on 5/30/05


lisa, this is an old delusion and a false doctrine, that everybody is equal, but in fact God says that there are and has always been 2 types of people in the world, the sinner and the righteous.
---Eloy on 5/29/05


Eloy, the last time I read my bible, it said that I was a sinner, saved by Grace. In fact, it said that you were too because it said WE ARE ALL SINNERS, YET BY GRACE ARE WE SAVED thus not of our own works but by God's grace.If you are not a sinner, then you have no need of a saviour. That sets you apart into a category that I haven't yet read about in the bible. There is only one who is without sin, and that is Christ our saviour, born not from man's seed and therein bypassing the sinful nature of man.
---lisa on 5/29/05


Do not be deceived, sinners lie, not christians.
---Eloy on 5/28/05


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Matthew 7:13-Enter by the narrow gate;
for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction,and there are many who will go in by it.
14- Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life,and there are few who find it.Please read your bible and follow God not man
God bless you in your search,I once felt the same way
---glady5446 on 5/28/05


Jack, christians lie because we are all sinners saved by GRACE.
---lisa on 5/28/05


Most Christians do not knowingly tell lies in the name of Jesus. They are typically repeating a falsehood that someone in authority has told them, which they believe to be true. I do not condemn such people, but rather their leadership - those who should know better - but for some reason harden their hearts against the plain truths of the Bible, and then teach it to others.
---Jerry on 5/28/05


i also have learned that some people believe that their church or religion or denomination is the only right one, and that all the rest are wrong, and so to justify this misconception they'll denounce and find-fault and manufacture lies against all those who disagree with them.
---Eloy on 5/27/05


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Scripture says that the tares will grow together with the wheat until the Lord of the harvest will come. Then he will separate them, the sinners will be separated from the righteous, and the sheep from the goats. Until then we continue to do the work of the Lord, and by God's grace some will get converted to goodness.
---Eloy on 5/26/05


This is not a problem in my own church. ANY congregation is going to have sinners; that's why there's Jesus. There ar about a half-dozen hard-core malcontents, but it's not of these I speak. Example: one of many sites sayign what's wrong with the NKJV, as opposed to the 1611/1769 KJV. NOTHING it said about the "omissions" (or anything else) about the KJV was anywhere near the truth, as checking the verses would prove. But there are other issues as well I could talk about if space permitted.
---Jack on 5/26/05


Because of lack of fear of God in them. It's not all that come to church that are christians. Some attend church because they don't want to be seen as pegans. These people don't and cannever have fear of God, except they embrace Christ. Some pastors are guilty of this. Ask God to lead you and not follow man sheepishly.
---debba7385 on 5/26/05


Dear Jack: I hear the tremendous disappointment in your question. Be sure you yourself know the doctrine of Jesus Christ. Study the Bible carefully so that you are standing on firm ground. All of us are sinners but you can stand for the Truth of Christ if you do it in a LOVING way. Ask God if He wants you to stay in your church and, if not, to lead you to a truly Bible believing church.
---Elsie on 5/26/05


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Many christians deliberately run away from the truth of lies, we consider lies as not sin but in truth you sin when you lie.Proverbs 6v16-19 must be read seriously because that is Gods word.It is only a worthless and wicked person who go around telling lies , they need our strong prayers!
---tabitha on 5/26/05


True christians do not lie.
---Eloy on 5/26/05


We can not explain why so many have trouble with the truth. We must be aware and for some we must divide their story by 2 or 5 or ten to be close to what happened. The point is though-Jack-we, you and I, must not let them come between ourselves and our faith. If we do, their are closer to our Lord than we are. We must let God do His job and let Him not us do the judging.
---chuck on 5/26/05


Jack:
I don't know what group of Christians you have bee hanging with but as for me most real followers of Christ don't lie as often as you think.
So called Christians will lie but real Christians tell the truth or remain quiet.
---Pierr7958 on 5/26/05


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there are alot of liers in this world and jesus said the road to our father is very narrow.We are all sinners and bound by one sin or another.jesus said that if we beleave we will be unbound and forgiven from our sins...being that lieing and all other sins are so great on earth to day i would say its because we are liveing in the last days before the return of christ....jesus said let them walk as they walk.
---jacqueline on 5/26/05


Jack; Is your "religion" the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth? If it is than you are indeed "unique". No church or religious group has "exclusive" posession of all the answers!
---1st_cliff on 5/25/05


I think some are deceived and don't know they are lying. But there are infiltrators in our churches, also. Even some pastors are actually infiltrators. If you know the true doctrine of Christ and are fully pursuaded of the truth in your own mind, then pray for the people that have been deceived that they might repent. I understand you feeling sickened. It hurts to see iniquity in Christians.......but all of us are sinners so we need to pray for these people.
---Karen on 5/25/05




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