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Jesus Brought Lazarus From Heaven

Do you think that Jesus brought Lazarus, back from heaven to just die another death? Doesn't sound fair.

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Let me ask you, if by dieing you were able to show the power and might of the Almighty God, would you do it? Would you die and then come back so that others would believe in Christ Jesus?

I would do this a 100 times over to help my Lord, wouldn't you?

I owe Christ a debt I can never repay. He paid the price for my sins. He's given me a one way ticket to glory. I owe him everything.

I know you feel the same way.

Bless you,
---trey on 12/21/07

Who to say: LAZARUS of Bethany, Jesus performed the most spectacular of all His miracles [excluding His own resurrection] when He restored Lazarus to life four days after death. Lazarus and his two sisters, Mary and Martha, were among Jesus' most intimate friends. [John 11:3-5,36]. The miracle not only showed Jesus' power over death but set the stage for His own resurrection.
---catherine on 12/21/07

After manifesting who he is with his first miracle turning water to wine he raised Lazurus from the dead to manifest why he came.
To bring those who were dead to life by his Spirit and then when they put off the tabernacle to take them from life to life.
Simply put. Give salvation and eternal life.
Raise them from the dead here and then again later at the last trump.
It really doesn't matter if it was fair to Lazurus as long as Christ was glorified.
---Frank on 12/20/07

You're going to get a lot of replies from people saying that Lazarus wasn't in heaven to begin with- I believe he was in the presence of God Almighty. If I died, and was told that I would be returning to life to the glory of God and the extension of His kingdom, I would be happy and willing to go, even if it meant another death, knowing my place would be at His side at the end.
---Ann5758 on 12/20/07

Heaven and Paradise are the same place. Lazarus went to neither at death. Jesus said "he sleepeth." Anyone gonna argue with Jesus? It was a different Lazarus (a common name at the time) in the parable with the rich man.
---jerry6593 on 9/2/06

when you die you dont go to heaven, you go to paradise.
---rw. on 9/1/06

1st cliff-(In the transfiguration ,if you read verse 9 you'll see that it was a "vision"!) Are you for real? Peter said do you want me to build three tents, Jesus told them to not tell anyone until the right time...
---ruben on 6/15/05

Heather; We should all strive for "accuracy" in our answers.They didn't ask Jesus to "bring him back" but said "if you were here earlier you could have saved him!" Jesus said "your brother will rise again" she said "yes in the last day". Also had no connection with His own death and resurrection! The allusion is your own.
---1st_cliff on 6/10/05

Jesus brought Lazarus from the dead for two purposes. The main one is the allusion to His own crucifixion and resurrection, but this was also to demonstrate faith. Lazarus' family simply asked Jesus to bring Lazarus back, had faith He could, and He did it. This was also proof of the existence of an all powerful Lord and Savior.
---Heather on 6/9/05

I'm going to give it a rest too Ann. Phew! :-) ...Peace...
---Leon on 6/5/05

I'm not going to discuss this anymore. Everyone can believe what they want- I will believe what I will. Sounds like people use the scriptures to argue and fight, pitting one verse against another. What part of the Bible is right and which is wrong? I guess there are scriptures for and against either view...we won't know till we get there, right?
---Ann5758 on 6/5/05

Ann; there are 2 scriptures you must "discount" to hold your view.IE Jn 3.16 "no man has EVER ascended to heaven"! Elijah went as far as the immidiate heavens(where the birds fly)an God took him.(out of existence) You say he didn't die? 1tim6.16 "God alone has immortality!"
---1st_cliff on 6/5/05

Ann5758: "Some people in responding have said Lazarus...was not in heaven. 'MY BIBLE SAYS HE WAS'." (Ann5758 on 6/1/05)

If the saved can't see the unsaved across the chasm, how is it that "saved" Abraham could?
---Leon on 6/4/05

I don't think I ever said they were in heaven. I believe when we die, we (saved & unsaved), all go into the presence of God- the saved to fellowship in His presence, and the unsaved to see across the chasm to what they have missed out on, but the saved cannot see their unsaved friends and loved ones on the other side. The rich man could look across & see Lazarus and what was going on there, but Lazarus never saw or spoke to the rich man. Then at final judgement, we go to our eternal reward or punishment.
---Ann5758 on 6/4/05

First of all, Cliff, Elijah never died. But that aside, if God the Father wanted Moses & Elijah to return bodily to earth to talk with the Messiah, are you saying He couldn't do it? Don't keep looking at things from a human perspective. And don't be surprised that they vanished from sight. When they were finished with what they were to do, they returned to the Father's presence. There was no further reason for them to be there.
---Ann5758 on 6/4/05

Glady5446: Did Elijah, Moses, "Lazarus", etc. go to Heaven (the dwelling place of God the Father -- Mt. 6:9) before (AHEAD OF) Jesus (Jn. 20:17)?

Ann5758: Indeed, "where did Elijah & Moses come from..."? Was it Heaven or Paradise? Remember, Jesus first spoke of Paradise (Abraham's bosom) in a parable (Lk. 16: 22-23); but, as he was dying on the cross he indicated it was a "real" place (Lk. 23:43).

Again, reference what "JESUS SAID", Jn. 20:17.
---Leon on 6/4/05

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Ann; Vs 9 clearly says "vision"(apparition) it had to be since Moses and Elijah were dead! It wasn't big-screen TV but realistic enough for Peter to want to make "shelters", but note that it says when they "looked around" Moses and Elijah had dissapeared!
---1st_cliff on 6/4/05

To me, Elijah represents those of us who will be Raptured (taken to heaven without dying), and Moses respresents those who have died in faith, believing, and will be raised to meet Christ in the air.
---Ann5758 on 6/3/05

Dident Elijah and Moses come to comfort
Jesus,and they went back to heaven.I was
to the understanding that Elijah represents
the prophets,and Moses represents the Law.
---glady5446 on 6/3/05

Cliff, what that means in vs 9 is, Jesus is telling His disciples not to tell what they had seen that day, until He had risen from the dead. Why would the disciples want to make shelters for people who weren't there? It says in both Matthew & Mark that both Moses and Elijah appeared before Jesus, not visions of Moses & Elijah.
---Ann5758 on 6/3/05

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Ann; In the transfiguration ,if you read verse 9 you'll see that it was a "vision"!
---1st_cliff on 6/3/05

The stoning of Stephen: he looked up and saw Christ at the right hand of God. Acts 7:59 (KJV): "And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit." Why would he say that if there was no hope of him being with the Lord at death? He knew that Christ was waiting right there to receive him the moment he died. He could see Him.
---Ann5758 on 6/2/05

Where did Elijah & Moses come from when they were with Jesus on the Mount of Transfiguration? They had to come from somewhere. Moses, who died, and Elijah, who didn't. They returned to speak with Jesus about His mission on earth. They were real, not visions. If they had not been with the Lord, how would they have any idea what His mission was, since they were centuries before Christ's time?
---Ann5758 on 6/2/05

Jeffrey, if you read more of Acts 2:34 than that one little bit, you will understand that what it is saying is that David, thru the Holy Spirit, was inspired to write what "the Lord" (Jehovah) said to "my Lord" (the Messiah), how Messiah would be at God's right hand, defeating His enemies. David knew all this WITHOUT having to go to heaven. This verse has nothing to do with death. It's saying that David didn't HAVE to go to heaven to have this revelation.
---Ann5758 on 6/2/05

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Ann: why did you end your sentence like that? did you not even bother to look up those scriptures? Or did you just take a scripture and just go by that only? In Daniel 12:2 it says many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth will awake some to everlasting life and some everlasting contempt. If these saved people are in heaven then why would Daniel say this? At least think about this, I don't claim to know it all, but I study the word as you should.
---Rebecca_D on 6/2/05

If the Bible is really God's Word (and I believe it is), then it MUST all fit together. No verses can be ignored, right? But isn't it possible that even a very sincere Christian could read some verses and misunderstand them?

Ann5758, I'd like to know how you reconcile Acts 2:34, which says, "For David is not ascended into the heavens," with your understanding of 2 Corinthians 5.

By the way, isn't the real lie of the devil, "Ye shall not surely die."? (Gen 3:4)
---Jeffrey on 6/2/05

Ann;Then maybe you'll enlighten us as to where the bible says "we go to be with the Lord"when we die!
---1st_cliff on 6/2/05

Ann5758: Believe what you believe until the Lord says otherwise (Gen.-Rev.). We Christians can graceously (Gal. 5:22-23)disagree with one another on non-essential matters like, "where did Lazarus go when he died"? (Jn. 11:14) We must all agree on Bible essentials about the virgin birth, death, burial & resurrection of Jesus Christ for the pardon of our sins so that we can be with Him IN HEAVEN.

None of us on this blog know it all. Especially me! I hope we're all searching (Acts 17:11).
---Leon on 6/2/05

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Excuse me....I TOTALLY believe what the Bible teaches, and mine says we are going to be with the Lord when we die. Finito. Case closed. He said it..I believe it..that settles it.
---Ann5758 on 6/1/05

In JN.11 Jesus uses sleep and death synonomusly in the same verse. We must conclude that the dead are sleeping awaiting resurrection.Paul says 'we will not all sleep in death".1thess 4.13. Jesus resurrected Lazerus as a demonstration of how the dead will be awakened to life.proof positive!
---1st_cliff on 6/1/05

You really need to study this subject again because you are not believing what the Bible teaches. I invite you to reread the entries I have made on the subject, then pray that the Lord will help you to know the truth.
Just think for a starer: The Bible says that there are going to be two resurrections. First one for saved and 1000 yrs later for the lost. Now if thhe saved are already in heaven and the lost already in hell, WHO IS GOING TO BR RESURRECTED ???
---Pierr7958 on 6/1/05

Ann if the people that are dead now (the saved ones) are in heaven, then why did God say he was going to destroy it to make a new one? why would he move them? these people are in a peacful, restful sleep, waiting upon God. If they are already in heaven then how can they the first to arise to meet him in the air?
---Rebecca_D on 6/1/05

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The bible doesn't say that Lazarus was in heaven but in a restful sleep. The bible says that no one is in heaven but the Father and the son. Heb 4:1-11 talks about what resting in God means. Mt 9:24 Mk 5:39 Lu 8:52 Jn 11:11-11, 1 Th 4:14. These are scriptures of the people whom were resting in God, and Jesus brought them back to life. Jesus wept because Mary had given up hope that Jesus was going to come Martha was the one who sought for Jesus, and his spirit was troubled, because they had lost the faith
---Rebecca_D on 6/1/05

Oh! Thank you? :-)
---Leon on 6/1/05

My point,Leon,is that there are people in this forum who do not believe that we will be with the Lord at death.I believe that is a lie of the devil.2 Corinth 5 plainly states that once our earthly body is destroyed(dead)we will put on a new body created in heaven.In our present body we are absent from the Lord..when we give up this earthly body,we are confident that we will be present with the Lord.Some people in responding have said Lazarus was not dead..was not in heaven.My Bible says he was.
---Ann5758 on 6/1/05

Ann5758: "I TOLD you people would say he, wasn't in heaven. )" You've said this twice & I'm curious as to why. What's your point? God bless! :-)
---Leon on 6/1/05

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The living know that they shall die, but the dead know not anything. Eccl 9:5
---Jerry on 6/1/05

Hey Elder, I don't believe that doing something unfair is sin. As you said, Jesus died for me, the just for the unjust. Seems to me like he got the short end of the stick! Wasn't that unfair - to him?

Jack, the only thing I might be upset with you about is how you spell my name. :) God bless you!

Rebecca_D, Lupe2618, and Pierr7958, great answers! I'd love to hear more of what you understand from the scriptures about the dead. jeffr5976
---Jeffrey on 6/1/05

If Lazarus was just asleep, why did Jesus weep? I sure wouldn't be standing there crying if he was just sleeping. (By the way, I TOLD you people would say he wasn't in heaven.)
---Ann5758 on 5/31/05

I believe Jesus loved Mary and Martha so much (see Jn.11: 5). Jesus is Lord over life and death and Jesus wanted to show that (vs. 42). The purpose of Jesus was: "they might believe". Shouldn't it be our purpose too, by our testimony? Jesus gave Lazarus back to Mary and Martha, that was important and all the people standing around would be saved.
---Ernst9433 on 5/31/05

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Brother Jack, I have four different bibles and they all say asleep. Just for reference, which bible do you have? I heard there was a new bible out that is suppose to be so close to the original but don't know the name. I will also check on line to see if someone does. Maybe wrong information. thank you Jack
---Lupe2618 on 5/31/05

Lazarus, though dead (Jn. 11:11-14), didn't go to heaven. Like the other Lazarus in the parable (Lk. 16:20-22), Jesus' friend Lazarus was also "carried by the angels" to Abraham's bosom** (a place for believers who were covered by God's promise but weren't yet covered by Jesus' blood).

Lazarus' soul was returned to his body of which God kept (for that purpose) from decay, i.e., Jn. 11:4, 25, 39-42.

** I personally believe Abraham's bosom is the same as paradise (Lk. 23:42-43).
---Leon on 5/31/05

Jeffery might be very upset with me, but Jesus said plainly, "Lazarus is dead." John 11:14.
---Jack on 5/31/05

Brother Jeffrey, I don't see how anyone can complain on your answer. It does say that. Brother Elder, what you answered was awesome. What Scripture teaches is about how awesome God is and how we don't deserve God's mercy and Grace. The more humble we become the more we realize how much His done for us.
---Lupe2618 on 5/31/05

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Some people will be very upset with me for saying this, but Jesus used the word "sleep" in John 11:11 concerning Lazarus. If he was asleep, he wasn't awake. If he wasn't awake, he couldn't work for God or glorify God. After Jesus raised him from the dead, he was once again awake.

Matt 9:24; Mark 5:39; Luke 8:52; Acts 7:60 & 13:36; 1 Cor 11:30, 15:6, 18, & 51; 2 Peter 3:4; 1 Thes 4:13-18; and several Old Testament verses also refer to the dead as being asleep.
---Jeffrey on 5/31/05

We fear the unknown, he knew death, he had already experienced so he had nothing to fear. Death is only something to fear if you are not ready to go to Jesus. He must have been really on fire for God when he came back! Can you just imagine the testimony he had. Praise God. How I would love to have been there to hear his testimony!
---Pat on 5/31/05

Anne: there are many "IFS" in your post!
No need to speculate! When a person dies, he/she does not go to heaven until Jesus comes back very soon!
---Pierr7958 on 5/31/05

I think by the question, its not what happen to Lazarus or that it was unfair, but to show what God can do when He wants with His creation. He shows us His Sovereign right to involve Himself in our lifes and through Scripture He has shown us more and more of who He and His power as to who is in control.
---Lupe2618 on 5/30/05

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The raising of Lazarus was a temporary rescusitation. Lazarus does NOT the resurrected, glorified body in the World to Come that we all look for.

It would actuallybe "unfair" if Lazarus had all these goodies now--especially if he got them before Jesus Christ did!
---Jack on 5/30/05

Why does God working His power to bring Glory to His name not sound "fair?"

All things were created for Him and by Him and by His Grace we are allowed to know and fellowship with Him.

What really doesn't sound "fair" is the fact that we are sinners and Jesus died for us even though He NEVER sinned. The Just for the Unjust. If He did anything "unfair" that would be sin and He cannot sin.

When did we get the authority to determine what God does?
---Elder on 5/30/05

Jesus said that Lazarus was in a restful sleep. I don't think he was in Heaven, because the bible says that no one is in heaven but the Father, the Son, and the angels. He was resting in God. He brought Lazarus back to life to get glory from it. Mary and Martha had faith in Jesus to do this, but couldn't understand why he was four days late. but Jesus was still on time.
---Rebecca_D on 5/30/05

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