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When Was The First Bible Written

When was the very first bible written and where. How do I know what I am reading in the english language is the same as what was exactly written in the very first ever bible.

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Warwick, read "Six Things in Expelled That Ben Stein Doesn't Want You to Know......about intelligent design and evolution" in Scientific American." The whole project was a lie.
---atheist on 7/2/11


John,
There are better people than myself to answer your questions. People who have been studying the history of the Bible all of their lives. People who have written fully sourced books on the subject. People who were born again fundamentalists Christian evangelists and are now agnostics. Such as Bart Erhman. I suggest you buy a new computer or one of his books, if you need answers.

I have read enough of the Bible to see that it is inconsistent, and know enough of its history to know it's unreliable.
---atheist on 7/2/11


have listed several questions for you to ponder.

Do you agree with those Assertations/Questions concerning the Gospels?
---John on 6/30/11

I'M WAITING FOR YOUR RESPONCE.
---John on 7/1/11


Hey Atheist I am not choosy I 'denigrate' all sorts. I even 'denigrated' Bishop Robinson, who made part of my case for me. How fair is that!

As the exotic dancer said to the bishop-one mans denigration is another mans truth! I could never work out how the bishop and the exotic dancer became so acquainted.
---Warwick on 7/1/11


If anyone wishes to see a quality debate between a Christian and an atheist regarding whether science has done away with God watch the Dawkins Lennox debate on youtube.

I would describe it as a gentle demolition of Dawkins atheistic position.

Also worth watching is Ben Steins 'Expelled.' At the end Stein corners Dawkins who begins to babble about creatures from outer space.
---Warwick on 7/1/11




Please google "Special Investigation - Evolution" on youtube. This is a truly informed debate...
---atheist on 7/1/11


cluny, you continue to post falsehood, for all "True" Christian churches utilize only the Holy Bible alone, knowing full well that the Holy Bible given by God is proven and researched and the evidence recorded to be the Truth. And at the opposite end, the septugaint is proven and researched and the evidence recorded to be nonScripture, and the content clearly contains falsehood written by sinners which writing is proven to not be authored from God.
---Eloy on 7/1/11


Warwick,

As always you denigrate anything that disrupts your belief.
---atheist on 7/1/11


\\The investigative evidence is, that in every city where I have resided in Pennsylvania and in Germany and in California, within every Christian church, there was zero septuagints, and only the Holy Bible.\\

There's =an LXX in every REAL (that is, Orthodox) Christian Church!

This simply shows you weren't in REAL Churches.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/1/11


Atheist, few knowledgeable people would give Bart Ehrmans any credibility.

However if you like fringe-dwellers consider Bishop John A.T. Robinson, a leader in the heretic God is Dead movement. He pointed out, in a moment of lucidity, that the NT books (except John 1,2,3 & Revelation) had to be written before AD70 as none of them even alludes to the destruction of the temple in Jerusalem. A hostile witness! I think that would have been noticed, no?

Better to refer to D. Edmund Hiebert, a man of considerable standing in scholarly circles. His approximate dates for the NT books, based upon scholarship and solid deduction, are for example- James AD46-49, 1 Thesallonians AD50, Galatians AD52, Matthew AD66 and Jude at 67-68
---Warwick on 7/1/11




Atheist my systems is too old for You tube. Although I heard many such debates.

I have listed several questions for you to ponder.

Do you agree with those Assertations/Questions concerning the Gospels?
---John on 6/30/11


John,

It's a youtube video of a debate: "Craig Evans vs. Bart Ehrman Debate"

Bart D. Ehrman is the author of more than twenty books, including three New York Times bestsellers: Misquoting Jesus, God's Problem and Jesus Interrupted. Ehrman is the James A. Gray Distinguished Professor of Religious Studies at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, and is a leading authority on the New Testament and the history of early Christianity.

Please, John, take 9 minutes and watch just one video.
---atheist on 6/30/11


FROM FLAVIUS JOSEPHUS(HISTIORIAN/JEWISH PRIEST)

Now there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man, for he was a doer of wonderful works, a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the Jews and many of the Gentiles. He was The Christ. And when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him, for he appeared to them alive again the third day, as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him. And the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not extinct at this day.
---John on 6/30/11


cluny, you continue to post falsehood. The investigative evidence is, that in every city where I have resided in Pennsylvania and in Germany and in California, within every Christian church, there was zero septuagints, and only the Holy Bible. Real Christians read from, and meditate upon, and memorize and embrace only The Holy Scripture as God's Holy Word, and no real Christian accepts nor esteems the unholy septuagint. I have been in a church where the leader sinuously read from a manmade book instead of from the Holy Bible, and therefore as I am commanded, I left that synagogue of satan and wiped off the dust of my feet as a testimony against that place for the day of Judgment. Back to the Holy Bible cluny, and only to the Holy Bible.
---Eloy on 6/30/11


\\Along with orthodox Judaism rejecting the unholy septugint, but likewise born-again Christians rightly rejects all NonScripture which includes the LXX.
---Eloy on 6/30/1\\

But the vast majority of real Christians accept them, Eloy.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/30/11


I did't Atheist.

They were written about the time you said 40-50AD. But before 70 AD since Jerusalem was still there as well as the Temple.

Concerning being copies of an older scroll(True). The Synoptic Gospels(Matt/Luke/Mark) were all based on writing/s called the Q. Possibly memos of Peter.
Mark being the 1st Gospel written.

Much of Luke(Lawyer/Historian/Doctor) were based on his interviews.

As you can imagine during that time there were many bizarre stories circulating concerning Christ(I.E. Talking Cross etc).

So Luke as an Historian took it upon himself to give a Factual outsiders account of events.

I wish Lukes Gospel was not in the Scripture. As it was be historical account(I.E Josephus).
---John on 6/30/11


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John,

Did you look at the youtube references I gave?
---atheist on 6/30/11


BTW, I forgot to mention that the LXX is accepted as the definitive OT version by the Orthodox Church, so again, Eloy falls under his own condemnation.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/30/11


Cluny, recall: "The septuagint is proven to be nonhebraic and noninspired writings. The complete body of Holy Scripture never had 80 books, for the Apocrypha are noninspired writings which were added later between the O.T. and N.T. inspired scriptures, these were purposely kept out of both testaments because of their questionable authenticity and their contradictory doctrines to the inspired scriptures. It is well known today that the apocrypha and the septuagint is proven not to be holy scripture, and it never was, and orthodox Judaism rightly reject these body of writings." Along with orthodox Judaism rejecting the unholy septugint, but likewise born-again Christians rightly rejects all NonScripture which includes the LXX.
---Eloy on 6/30/11


HEBREW OLD TESTAMENT: Torah (TaNaKh), Law: Beginning, Names, Called, Isolation, Words+ Nebiim, Prophets: Yehoshua, Sophtim, I Samuel, II Samuel, I Melechim, II Melechim, Yeshayahu, Yirmiyahu, Yechezkiel, (and 12 lesser prophets): Hoshea, Yoel, Amos, Obadiah, Yonah, Michah, Nachum, Habakkuk, Xephaniah, Heggai, Zechariah, Malachi+ Ketubim, Writings: Praises, Proverbs, Iyob, Song of Songs, Ruth, Lamentations, Kohelet, Esther, Danyal, Ezra, Nechemiah, I Chronicles, II Chronicles.

There are NO unholy septugints accepted in place of, nor included in, the Holy Scripture.
---Eloy on 6/30/11


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PART2
SCAM? then what was its purpose/goal? Money/Power?

Why did the perpetrators of this Hoax, continue after his death and were tortured and put to death themselves for a Scam? Why were all their lives so miserable on Earth(Losers).

If Jesus was a fake, would not the Jews(who were watching) point it out? But instead they confirm the miracles as real, but only said he was a demon.

Why was Jesus Miracles/history recorded by Jewish historians as fact? They opposed him! Why did Roman historians record him even what he looked like.

Why was the Darkness of his execution recorded in Northern Greece where it was unknown?

Explain the artifacts found?

SO> He left us 3 choices
LIAR, LUNATIC, OR LORD.
---John on 6/30/11


\\ the contemporary LXX is NonScripture which has no acceptance\\

Not accepted by WHOM? (Note the proper use, btw--"whom" is objective, not nominative.)

You are not the infallible surrogate pope who (again, proper use of "who" as nominative) decides what is and what is not accepted by the larger Christian community.

\\I accept the Truth, and condemn every other false word, no matter when they are manifested.\\

That means you'll have to condemn your own sayings because most of what you say is wrong and untrue.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/30/11


Let us reason Atheist..

LIAR, LUNATIC, OR LORD! That's our 3 choices Jesus gave us. No inbetween!

If the story were a Hoax. Would the writers in the 1st century then use a Woman and one that was Publically known to be possessed by 7 demons, as their star witness of the resurrection?

Would a Man Claiming to be G-d/King then proceed with fervor to be executed(at will) in the most painful way possible? or Run/hide? Or would such a story speak of his military triumphs and his Kingdom on Earth.

Would his Mother go along with this "Hoax" and the execution? Or plead that he was just insane in order to save her son? Would not his brothers do the same? Would not his followers fight? He had many.

MORE....
---John on 6/29/11


cluny, The Aleppo Codex is Holy Scripture copied from the ancient Hebrew scriptures, whereas the contemporary LXX is NonScripture which has no acceptance nor part with the holy canon, which holy canon is the oldest known writing of man. No one has produced a Septuagint or Greek copy of the Old Testament written before 300 A.D. The Septuagint, like greek mythologies, extract pieces of Scripture in order to taylor their NonScripture, and not the other way around. In the beginning there were two words manifested in the garden of Eden, God's Holy and Everlasting Word of proven Truth and the serpent's unholy and proven to be a failure and word of lie. I accept the Truth, and condemn every other false word, no matter when they are manifested.
---Eloy on 6/30/11


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John,

Take a look at the youtube reference above. Erhman points out that the gospels were not written down until about 70 years after Jesus died, and they were not written down by eye witnesses, but were essentially hearsay stories passed along. The first copies were copies of copies, (etc.) dated about two hundred years after Jesus died. Give it a listen with an open mind.

In any case, there is no proof that Jesus actually lived or didn't. (I think/believe that he did.) As far as the more fantastic parts of the story, as others, I believe that extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. So no to those. Is moral wisdom contained therein. I believe yes. The "word of god?" Again, an extraordinary claim. So no.
---atheist on 6/29/11


Shira,

The religious are in my world, I am not on your blog.
---atheist on 6/29/11


Look for "Craig Evans vs. Bart Ehrman Debate: Does the New Testament Misquote Jesus?" on youtube.
---atheist on 6/29/11


Athiest alway a delight to have you here. It keeps people on there toes!

Do you think The Story of Jesus is just a Hoax?
---John on 6/29/11


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atheist, why are you on a christian blog? The Holy bible is the Word of God. when you post your nonsense, people just laugh and ignore you. Me...I would like to see you saved and living a Godly life.
---shira3877 on 6/29/11


Wrong again, John. Since the DSS were not found until 1947, the could have had NO influence on older versions of the Bible

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/29/11

Semantics my friend!

I did not mention the DSS had an effect on OLDER version as you misstated.

Just that it had an effect on the OT we now have.


BTW ...CHRIST IS STILL RISEN!
---John on 6/29/11


--IF A VAGRANT DARE SIT DOWN TO EAT NEXT YOU. YOU WOULD CALL THE COPS AND EJECT HIM OUT! ASAP!
THEN SAY...
PRAISE THE LORD! LET'S EAT!
---John on 6/28/11

Its foolish of you to believe all churches who have a potluck lunch would do such a thing if a homeless, starving person who happened to stop by.

Some churches do have the love of Christ in them and still occasionally eat dinner together... sheesh

Since youre so eager to judge others, "Pastor", why not take the money you spend for internet service every month and buy the poor some food. The word is a double edged sword. Careful that you dont cut yourself, Nicolaitan.
---CraigA on 6/29/11


There was no first bible. You don't know and can't. See Bart Ehrman's books or Google.
---atheist on 6/29/11


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\\cluny, you post falsehood. To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not acording to this word, because they have no light in them.
---Eloy on 6/28/11\\

What did I say that was false, Eloy?

That the Jews do NOT read the Torah from Codices? They do.

That the LXX is centuries older than the Aleppo Codex? It is.

**Our OT is based solely on the LXX and parts that were amended due to the DSS and the Samaritan Scrolls**

Wrong again, John. Since the DSS were not found until 1947, the could have had NO influence on older versions of the Bible

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/29/11


G-d Bless you too Eloy!
---John on 6/29/11


John, I have not forsaken you, nor any other sinner, as long as you still have breath there is still a chance that you may become born-again also.
---Eloy on 6/29/11


ELOY! ELOY! Why has Thou forsaken me?


Nice to see you back! I thought you had been Raptured.

But now I see you were "Left Behind".
---John on 6/28/11


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John, you post falsehood.
---Eloy on 6/28/11


cluny, you post falsehood. To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not acording to this word, because they have no light in them.
---Eloy on 6/28/11


THERE'S NO ORIGINAL HEBREW TEXT!!!
Except for the Torah which we got from the Samaritans. Our OT is based solely on the LXX and parts that were amended due to the DSS and the Samaritan Scrolls

Beyond that we have various Papyrus and Codex of the New Testament. We do NOT have the original Hebrew version of Mathew. Also missing 1st, 3rd and 5th Corinthians

There are also scribal errors and additions not intended to be in scripture. Originally written in the margin but then slip into the text.

SOME ARE BLASPHEMOUS...
I.E.(LORD'S PRAYER): "FOR THINE IS THE KINGDOM AND GLORY FOR EVER AND EVER"...NEVER TAUGHT/SPOKEN BY JESUS. NOT IN SCRIPTURE!

ALSO THE NAME "JAMES" DOES NOT EXIST IN SCRIPTURE
---John on 6/28/11


\\The Aleppo Codex is the oldest known complete manuscript of the Hebrew Bible, handwritten in Tiberias of Palestine in the early 10th century around 915 A.D. by the scribe Shlomo Ben-Buyaa.\\

However, MSS of the LXX are centuries older than the Aleppo Codex.

And note the word CODEX. Copies of the Scriptures for liturgical use in synagogues were in the form of SCROLLS, not codices.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/28/11


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Scott, yes the scribes had very strict rules for copying the scripture. Every word and every letter was counted. If a letter or word were omitted, the manuscript was condemned. A column must have at least 48 lines and no more than 60. Letters and words had to be spaced at a certain distance and no word could touch another. If a sheet of parchment had one mistake on it, the sheet was condemned. If there were three mistakes found on any page, the whole manuscript was condemned. Each scroll had to be checked within thirty days of its writing, or it was considered unholy.
---Eloy on 6/28/11


This is really cool but scribs when coping the OT would have to spend 40 years studing the trade before becomeing a scribe so it was not a minimum wage copy job you just gave to someone. When coping the hebrew text they would count the number of letters per line and compare to orginial. If a mistake is found on a line the page was thrown away. Then after finishing the last line of the page go down centerline, start, and ending character of each line to see if it matched the orginial centerline, start, and ending charatcters. If any mistakes in page or line that page would be thrown away. We have 100's of copies of OT text from the OT times. We have 5 copies of Homer's Illiad none are the same.
---Scott on 6/28/11


Hebrew Old Testament: Beginning, Names, Called, Isolation, Words, Yehoshua, Sophtim, I Samuel, II Samuel, I Melechim, II Melechim, Yeshayahu, Yirmiyahu, Yechezkiel, Hoshea, Yoel, Amos, Obadiah, Yonah, Michah, Nachum, Habakkuk, Xephaniah, Heggai, Zechariah, Malachi, Praises, Proverbs, Iyob, Song of Songs, Ruth, Lamentations, Kohelet, Esther, Danyal, Ezra, Nechemiah, I Chronicles, II Chronicles:
Greek New Testament: Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Acts, Romans, I Corinthians, II Corinthians, Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, I Thessalonians, II Thessalonians, I Timothy, II Timothy, Titus, Philemon, Hebrews, James, I Peter, II Peter, I John, II John, III John, Jude, Revelation.
---Eloy on 6/28/11


Robert Crane, the book you speak of is a writing from a sinner, and was never a part of the Hebrew Tanakh from God.
---Eloy on 6/27/11


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The Bible is in complete as we know it. The original first book of the Bible was the book of Adam and Eve.
The First Book of Adam and Eve details the life and times of Adam and Eve after they were expelled from the garden to the time that Cain kills his brother Abel. It tells of Adam and Eves first dwelling - the Cave of Treasures, their trials and temptations, Satans many apparitions to them, the birth of Cain, Abel, and their twin sisters, and Cains love for his beautiful twin sister, Luluwa, whom Adam and Eve wished to join to Abel.You people need to do some research to find out the truth about all the books that were taken out of the Bible. How can you read something and say this is how I should live, when you only have half the truth.
---Robert_Crane on 6/27/11


If by "very first Bible written", you mean the entire Bible between two covers, this is a relatively late practice.
---Cluny on 3/16/11


The first book of the Bible to be written was probably Exodus. The fragments found have an ancient form of Hebrew. It has been suggested that the book of Exodus as a unified single story written down could be during King David's time. The stories were mostly oral traditions past down by word of mouth before this.


---Scott on 3/15/11


She is asking about the orginal manuscripts. Not the compiled Bible which would have been Jerome's Vulgate.

HERE's WHAT WE HAVE...

The orginal Hebrew Bible is lost

We do have the Hebrew Torah from the Samaritans. The Samaritans did not believe in the prophets(Neviim) or the writings(Ketuvim). So these are missing forever in their orginal Hebrew.

We then have the Greek LXX

We have some early Aramaic/Hebrew intertestament writings and this would also include the DSS

After that we have 1st/2nd century papyruses of the NT.

Later The Jews wrote the Masoretic Hebrew Bible to differentiate it from the LXX version. It is inaccurate and does not match the orginal Hebrew Text as well as the LXX.
---John on 3/14/11


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the Bible was made to let us know the true story of god and Jesus but mostly to thank is that god washed way are sins :) :):) :)
---andrew on 3/14/11


Jesus created Adam the first man in 4194 B.C. And in the 7th generation of man, Adam told his great great great great grandson Henoch about the creation. And I believe that in the 36th century B.C. Henoch wrote down what Adam told him firsthand in a book. Henoch was godly and walked with Jesus, and Jesus raptured him. And God instructed certain godly men to write down his words in a book in order to pass his words on to the future generations and to the children that would come after. The Lord God Jesus professed that, Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.
---Eloy on 10/31/09


destiny
your wrong
if you have faith you believe yahsua who is the word of god, through the holy spirit will guide u to all truth
"not by might, nor power (or tradition), but by my spirit"
yahsua said that not all truths have been revealed to us as yet
---glen on 10/30/09


you dont, but if you have faith then you just have to believe that what we have in our bible is what god intended for us to have.
---destiny on 5/11/09


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The Hebrew Bible was written between 950 BCE and 400 BCE.
It was translated to Greek in 200 BCE when the the Greek emperor wanted to learn of this "Living God". He employed 70 Hebrew priest and scribes to translate the 39 books of the Hebrew bible into Greek. It supposedly took them 70 days hence the name Septuagint Bible or Alexandrian Bible. In some religions, there are other books added to the 39 canonized books they are called the Apocrypha.
---George on 3/25/09


The Bible was written under God's inspiration during a period of more than 1000 years from the time of Moses through the first century AD. The NT was completed within about sixty years of Jesus resurrection....The Holy Bible is God's word. I hope you are having a pleasant day.++
---catherine on 3/11/09


The Scripture was written in the Middle East in ancient Hebrew from the 36th century B.C. by Henoch in 3507 B.C. (ref: Gen.5:1+ Ex.17:14+ 31:18+ 32:15,16,19+ 34:1,4,27-29+ Deut.6:4-9). The N.T. began to be recorded by Matthew in 5 B.C., and finished by John around the 3rd decade A.D. The 1st English Bible based on the latin vulgate was transcribed by John Wycliff in 1380 A.D. And William Whittingham with his colleagues translated the 1st Bible from the Hebrew and Greek in 1560 A.D in Geneva, Switzerland. You can purchase a copy of the Geneva Bible in some reputable Bible Book Stores and also online.
---Eloy on 3/11/09


Septuagint was first translation made of Hebrew Old Testament into Greek. Two hundred years before Jesus. Translated from a Hebrew Old Testament text-type that is older than the Masoretic text, from which most Old Testaments are translated today. Sad, for the apostles had access to both the Septuagint and proto-Masoretic text that was in existence in their time. They quoted from the Septuagint.
You have probably noticed that many of the Old Testament passages that are quoted in the New Testament don't read the same in the New as they do in the Old. However, if you were using the Septuagint Old Testament, they would read the same.
According to scroll publishing.
---Trav on 3/10/09


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so from what i can tell, no one on this planet know for sure what was the very first bible, just proving that organized religion can interprate the bible to mean whatever works for them. i really dont understand how there can be more than 1 bible, didnt know god wrote so many versions. when does the next addition come out?
---Carla on 3/9/09


Sorry Leslie, but if your Bible only has 66 books, then you know you are not reading exactly as the first Bible.

Luther was a Catholic Priest. He had the original 73 books Bible.

When He left he took 7 books out of the OT, because they contained information to back up several beliefs that he no longer believed.

He tried to get rid of the letter of James in the NT. But, thank God his Reformer friends stopped him.
---Nicole on 7/26/08


Bible(Canonized)and Christ-like reply
---Ajonuma_obed on 7/25/08


You are asking a question that takes a small book to answer well. Are you concerned with OT or NT? How we got the number of books down to 66? Are you just interested in the history of English Language translations? In general any modern text is better than older text, KJV and the like because we have a greater number of source documents to use then 14th - 17th century translators did. A good place to start would be the Encyclopedia Britanica. It won't cover everything, but I will give you a space to start
---phia4633 on 12/19/07


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Important point: No english translation has ever been made from an original autograph, Greek or Hebrew.

Does variant = error?
---JohnE on 3/23/07


david, all Bibles written after 1611 contain errors, the best and most accurate English translation is the 1560 Geneva Bible. You could also get a copy of the Hebrew and the Greek scriptures, and then compare them to your English versions to see the discrepancies.
---Eloy on 6/2/06


pt 1: John Wyclif, in 1380 A.D., published the First English Bible, translated from the Latin Vulgate. In 1526, William Tyndale was the first to use the original Greek scriptures to translate the New Testament into English. And in 1530 A.D. he also was the first to use the original Hebrew to translate the Old Testament scriptures into English. To date the best and most accurate English Bible is the 1560 Geneva Bible.
---Eloy on 6/2/06


pt 2: The actual temple Scriptures were collected from around the Mediterranean, from Palestine, and the Middle East. The Aleppo Codex is the oldest known complete manuscript of the Hebrew Bible, handwritten in Tiberias of Palestine in the early 10th century around 915 A.D. by the scribe Shlomo Ben-Buyaa. A copy can be found in the Keter Yerushalayim, The Jerusalem Crown published in 2001 A.D.
---Eloy on 6/2/06


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pt 3: The Aleppo Codex is the most authoritative manuscript of the Massoretic text of the Bible, the most accurate, and sacred source document, both for the biblical text and for its vocalization. And I favor using the Original Greek Constantinopolitan Texts for the New Testament biblical source document. A copy can be found in the 1841 The English Hexapla reprinted in 1999 A.D.
---Eloy on 6/2/06


pt 4: To date the best and most accurate English Bible is the 1560 Geneva Bible. It was this Geneva Bible, the "Thanksgiving Bible" which the pilgrims brought to America upon the Mayflower and settled in the English colonies of Massachusettes and the east coast, and on this- Thee Bible- in which the Bible knowledge of the Puritans was built up during the Civil War.
---Eloy on 6/2/06


i just can't get myhead round with some of the things i read in this bible. The other thing is that how can it be accurate when something was written many many years later down the line. Were there changes made? if so should i be having these doughts??..please help
---david on 6/1/06


Jack, I did mot mean to imply the Text never had more them 66 Books as the LXX does an there are a lot of other good period writings out there besides those. James Charlesworth published two good volumes. Martin Luther did not think Revelations should have been included in the Bible. Both Daniel and Revelations are classic examples of Apoplectic Pseudepigraphic literature.
---phia4633 on 6/22/05


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Hi Bloggers: I really like these answers about the beginning of the Bible. What came to mind in addition is that there are fragments of scripture found in recent history-remember Qumran? They are verifying what has already been included in the Bible. This is so exciting! Those wonderful scholars are still piecing the fragments together. If I were younger, I would like to be one of them. Glorious!
---Elsie on 6/21/05


Phia, most Christians world-wide (and throughout time) will say that the Bible has MORE than 66 books.

Moderator - Which other books?
---Jack on 6/21/05


Your question assumes that the Bible appeared in the form we know it today all at one instance, like modern books.

It didn't.

It was a process of centuries.

The history of the composition and transmission of the Bible is too complex for 85 word blog entries. Libraries have been written about this. Scholars have devoted their lives to finding out the story.

It suffices that God Himself was in charge in every step of the way; His providence is evident in the process.
---Jack on 6/21/05


The first english translation of the whole bible was by John Deuteronomy Wickliffe, 1324-1384. Then William Tynadale 1525, King James Version 1611. A revised version was 1881, American Standard Version 1901. But you need to get a bible that you can understand.
---Rebecca_D on 6/20/05


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You will have to study where our English Bible came from.

The Greek Septuagint goes back to at least the 3rd Century B.C. The Greek New Testament goes back to at least A.D. 100.

Remember what we have now is a copy of the Word of God. Some copies are much better than others. And, the Bible says that if this Gospel be hid it is hid from him that is lost.
---Elder on 6/19/05


The O.T. was mostly scribed in Hebrew, and the N.T. in Greek. The 1st English Bible was John Wyclif's 1380 A.D., based on the Latin. The best English Bible on the market is the Geneva Version of 1560, from the Hebrew and Greek. i would not use anything after the King James Version of 1611. A copy of the original Hebrew is in The Jerusalem Crown of 2001, and the Greek in The English Hexapla of 1841. Alternatively, you can use the Textus Receptus found in the Interlinear KJV by George Ricker Berry.
---Eloy on 6/19/05


If you have doubts about anything that you read in an English version you can check what words were used in the Hebrew, for the O.T. and the Greek, for the N.T. There are computer programmes that make this very easy giving you a line by line literal translation from the Hebrew or Greek into English. You can then work out from this which of the English versions is the most accurate and it ight help you choose which version you wish to use in future.
---F.F. on 6/19/05


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