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Why Was The Apocrypha Removed

I heard about how the Bible Originally had 80 books, and the books taken out are called Apocrypha. Can anyone tell me about this and why these books were taken out of the Bible? Why in one of these books muhammed was mentioned by Jesus as next and last prophet?

Moderator - The Apocryhpa wasn't considered God inspired including a few errors. The last prophet statement isn't in the Apocryhpa - someone is teasing you.

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As a KJV enthusiast, I own a copy of the KJV apocrypha. Whether or not it is canonical, I don't know. The New Testament writers do quote from it, though. My real beef is with scriptures added and removed in modern translations.
---Jeff on 11/10/09


If you read the Jewish Bible you will not find the books there. So they were removed long before the 1600's.
---Samuel on 4/24/09


You might be interested to know that Paul was familiar with the Apocrypha. He practically quotes from Wisdom 13 in Romans 1.
---JohnnyB on 4/23/09


theapocrypha where rejected long before 300-400AD it was under constantine that these books where deemed unreliable by a synode specially conveyed for this purpose and therefore no material for docrine.
Maybethat person conciders the Coran as apocrypha?
---Andy on 4/21/09


Who determined it wasn't God inspired? Esp after 1800 odd years. Who took it upon their own authority(s) to remove it?
---Jo on 4/20/09




I wondered the same thing once and researched it. "An Introduction to the Apocryphal Books" ,by H.T.Andrews. Apocrypha translates into the word 'false'. Do you want something 'false' in your Bible? I don't. All things are God inspired in the Word. God had inspired those writings to be removed for that reason.
---lisa on 3/20/09


Hello,

I have read your questions and responses regarding the apocrypha. I also wondered why it was not included in the scriptures.
The first commandment is to love God with all of our hearts. The second is as great as the first, Love one another. God loves all of us, and if He is sought, He will be found. I have decided to read it, pray about it, and let Him guide me, just as I do with the bible and everything else I read and do. May God be with us in our search for His wisdom and truth. With Love, Dana
---dana on 3/18/09


Inspired, not inspired, bottom line, The Apocrypha was kept as part of virtually every Bible scribed or printed from the earliest of days until just 120 years ago, in the mid-1880s, when it was removed from Protestant Bibles. Up until the 1880s, however, every Christian Protestant or otherwise embraced the Apocrypha as part of the Bible, though debate continued as to whether or not the Apocrypha was inspired.
---Scribe on 12/22/08


Why did king james waste his time translating the apocrypha if it was not inspired?
---john_a_borucinski on 11/26/07


Debra ... I have an Authorised Version (which you call the KJV, although the translators did not call it that) which contains the Apocryphal books ... but it makes clear that they are not regarded as inspired.
Have you looked closely at your USA version?
---alan_of_UK on 8/4/07




all 88 books were in the kjv (here in the U.S.A.) until 1885, when the apocrypha was removed. GOD said that we were never to add or take away from the bible, so who gave the authorization to remove them from any of the bibles, only 122 years ago?
---debra on 8/3/07


.jared, yes I read the apocrypha and found them to be noninspired and presented doctrines which were contradictory to doctrine of inspired scripture. Having them placed in the middle of the testaments was like having a manmade secular textbook in the middle of the Bible. I am glad that later published Bibles discovered the unholiness of them and omitted them. If someone desires to read the apocrypha it should not be bound together within the Holy Bible, but rightly obtained as a separate reference book.
---Eloy on 5/3/07


John, Catholics do not use the Apocrypha and never did. Our Canon is based largely upon the Septuagint or Alexandrian Canon as used by the early Christians. The Jews in the early common era used the Septuagint among the Diaspora Jews, but rejected it and all things Greek because the Christians were adopting it for their own use.
---lorra8574 on 5/2/07


Someone -anyone::Please consider the period.The RCC was being accused of taking Bribes, For the people who were dead If these books had been included in the word of God it would have been Contradictorary.as 2Machabees 12 :43-46 clearly states its a holy & Wholesome thought to pray for the dead.How to solve this delimma ???drop the books simple.& the point remains proved Priests are soaking the people For their Money Plus the fact The DEAD CANNOT TALK.Remember The people of those times were Yokels.
---Emcee on 5/2/07


Thank you Torra, you have expressed my point in a clearer way than I did.
---Jared on 5/1/07


.judy, the KJV kept the apocrypha out of both the Old Testament and the New Testament, placing them between the testaments because they knew they were "not inspired", that is, "not of God." Inspired means "God breathed or God spoken"; and they are not necessary at all for knowledge nor for salvation, nope, not at all. They were nonexistent in the original Torah or hebrew scriptures. And subsequently and rightly so the apocrypha are not included in most English Bibles today.
---Eloy on 5/1/07


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The original KJV,included the "apocryphal"books.They were soon removed after further evaluation.However,most theologian,consider them excellent and beneficial "Christian"reading,though not divinely inspired,as the other books.Maccabbees is essential in understanding the 400 years of history between the OT books and the NT.WE are blessed to have access to these books,so why knock the RC Bible,just cause they dont put them in a separate cover?
---judy on 5/1/07


Jared, the Catholic Church rejected the Apocrypha a very long time ago; however, many Protestants view the Deuterocanonical books as apocryphal because they contradict Protestant interpretation. The Canon of scripture during the first century C.E. was not closed yet (the fact that you have the NT is absolute prove of this). Jesus said that the Law and the Prophets lasted until John the Baptist, Matthew 11:13, and each sect of Jews had its own vision of what the canon should include.
---lorra8574 on 4/30/07


Jared P2: The NT relies upon the Deuterocanonical books - Hebrews draws from Maccabbees for its Hall of Faith discourse. The doctrine of the Resurrection of the Body also appears first and strongest in Maccabbees. Paul even uses this fact to pit the Pharisees against the Sadduccess because the Sadduccees rejected all books outside of the Torah; whereas the Pharisees held to a larger canon that included the doctrine of the Resurrection of the Body - Acts 23:6.
---lorra8574 on 4/30/07


Eloy, the apocrypha was used by the Jews outside of Judea. Have you ever read them? the majority are history of that inner-testamental period.
---Jared on 4/30/07


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The original inspired Hebrew scriptures do not have the uninspired apocrypha in their Bible. The complete body of Holy Scripture never had 80 books, for the Apocrypha are noninspired writings which were added later between the O.T. and N.T. inspired scriptures; these were purposely kept out of both testaments because of their questionable authenticity and their contradictory doctrines to the inspired scriptures.
---Eloy on 4/30/07


The apocrypha isn't used in Protestant churches mainly because it wasn't included among the scrolls in Judea. It was include among the dispersed Jewish people, which is why it is included in the catholic and orthodox bibles. Because they use the septuagent (Greek Old Testament) as their main source of translation of the Hebrew Bible.
---Jared on 4/30/07


Catholics use the Apocryhpa. This is NOT part of God's Word, and are not to be considered. I will do some more research.
Jesus NEVER mentioned what you said He did.
---John on 4/30/07


Ps.. I never asked for anyone to trust me or not, hello !. I just wanted a simple answer, Only God is to be trusted.
---someone on 6/24/05


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I guess I have no good right words to tell my friend who is muslim about what I meant about my question, I will ask my pastor at church how I can talk with a muslim on how the bible we have is thr only word from God. Thanks anyway, and God be with you all.
---someone on 6/24/05


Peter ... consider this ... You also are just a man.
---Alan_of_U.K. on 6/24/05


NVBarbara, that's really interesting! I didn't know that Jesus quoted from every book in the OT! I grew up in the Catholic Church and at my grandmother's funeral someone quoted a verse from, what I presume was the Apocrapha, about praying for the dead. It gave me chills! I was so thankful to know that my grandma was saved!
---DoryLory on 6/23/05


Tina, Martin Luther was a man just like me with all of the human sin and mistakes. I am not following a man, even if he was Martin Luther. If he thought this' then he was wrong! The Apocryhpa directly contradicts the Bible. It's a trick from Satan, just to fool the simple.
---Peter on 6/23/05


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Post #2 Martin Luther regarded the Apocrypha as "useful historical" writings which Christians should be familiar with and which should even be read in public worship from time to time. But neither Luther nor the Lutheran church has ever regarded these writings as canonical--i.e., as part of the inspired and inerrant Word of God--since they do not meet the criteria discernible from the Scriptures themselves regarding what constitutes those books belonging to the canon of Scripture.
---Tina5349 on 6/23/05


Post #1 It is truly a shame that historical Christianity cannot be discussed on this forum without its proponents being demonized. The following is the Lutheran church's position on the matter.

Bracing myself!
---Tina5349 on 6/23/05


Jesus quoted nearly every book in the OT. NOT ONCE did He refer to anything that appears in the Apocrapha. That leads me to believe that He thought it all wrong information and things that would confuse people. There are things in the Apocrapha that do not agree with the rest of the bible. Isn't it somewhere in these books where the RCC gets the idea of Purgatory?
---NVBarbara on 6/23/05


Jack ... you are not a fool, so why do you bellieve such things about it being still illegal to publish the KJV without the Aprocrypha?
---Alan_of_U.K. on 6/23/05


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Ivan, I have done nothing to be ashamed of. Giving the historical truth of a matter when people are spreading ignorance and misinformation is nothing more than the spiritual work of mercy of instructing the ignorant. (And ignorant simply means not to know somehting. It's not a flaw. I was born a fool and will die a fool, but I don't have to remain ignorant.)
---Jack on 6/23/05


Ivan, I am not ashamed of myself, I'm just careful. Wake up and get wisdom, sir.
---Pete on 6/22/05


I have been a Christian for 23 years coming up this July, and I have seen a lot of con jobs. Satan is very crafty and we must be wise. I don't trust this someone.
---Betty on 6/22/05


I can relate to Jeff and Pete. I don't trust this someone. there is something that isn't quite right here. I can tell by the way he first responded. I for one don't trust you someone.
---Ken on 6/22/05


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I still don't trust this someone> I'm sorry if I offended anyone but we have to be careful here. I have seen Satan work just like this. We must be wise during these last days.
---Jeff on 6/22/05


Someone ... your question has brought out varying views about the apocrypha. It is perhaps good rather than bad that these differences can be aired here ... so that we can realise that no one Christian denomination or person has the complete & correct truth.

But you really made us wonder about YOUR faith, when you referred to the others here as "you Christians" It did seem as if you were saying you were not a Christians
---Alan_of_U.K. on 6/22/05


someone, i have already given the proof posted below that they are not God-given, their authorship and authenticity is highly doubtful. The Apocrypha are not found in Hebrew and are entirely rejected in Judaism.
---Eloy on 6/22/05


Jeff and Pete - you should be ashamed of yourselves. Anyone who is not christian reading what you wrote would say what intense believers "we" are. Give a response without accusing another person of living for satan or saying that they started trouble. We, and I include myself, should respect each other.
---Ivan on 6/22/05


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I agree with someone. You were wrong to judge this person accusing him, or her of being from satan when you do not know "all" the facts. I also agree with someone in that we should just answer the question in our own opinion, and not attack opinions of others.. At least this person did good to apologize, and clearing up their blog response. Try to be slow in anger, and really some of you responded with anger.
---Mirita on 6/22/05


I apologize if I didn't explain myself better before, but I refuse to have people turn my words against me and say I'm for satan, only God knows where my heart is and for sure it is with God. I had a good reason for my question, it was for someone help me with words so I can help another come to the Lord.
---someone on 6/22/05


Jeff, I do not live for satan.. I just wanted someone to help me find a good answer so I can prove to a muslim friend that he is wrong, and My Bible of 66 books is right and only word of God..so do not judge me when you do not know all the facts. Pete, I do not have to give my name, And I did not start any trouble..I just wanted something, anything to prove my friend is wrong cause im not very good in words so I was looking for someone to give me words. I Am a christian who fears and loves God.
---someone on 6/22/05


Jack ... you have not answered my question, but I will be courteous and answer yours.

I do not know which was the first translation not to include the apocrypha, and I have no idea about the rules as were in the USA.

But KJVs generally published in the UK do NOT include the Apocrypha, nor did they in the 18th 19th & 20th Centuries. I am afraid, dear sir, you have been misled.
---Alan_of_U.K. on 6/22/05


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Someone, You asked for proof that the Apocryhpa was not part of the Word of God. Thats easy, because the Apocryhpa directely contradicts the Word of God. Read God's Word and find out.
---John on 6/22/05


Someone-What do you mean you Christians? At least we defend the truth. You live for Satan and don't know it sir, or do you?
---Jeff on 6/22/05


Someone, So your the one who started this trouble. You won't even give your real name.
---Pete on 6/22/05


I wish you christians if you say you are would stop critizing each other replies and just answer the question with your own opnion. Can anyone give the prof or an example of why the apocryha wasn't considered word of God or inspired from God.
---someone on 6/22/05


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Jack, I know that you get a lot of people angry on these blogs but not me because it gives others an opportunity to prove you wrong and bring out the truth. So thanks.
---Walter on 6/22/05


Jack Where do you get this stuff, comic books?
---Dave on 6/22/05


Pop Evangelicals, you say. Your blind sir and don't know it.
---Louis on 6/22/05


Jack, Your statements are wrong! Where do you get this information? Please don't speak for the Christians of the world, because you misrepresent us.
---Jeff on 6/22/05


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WHY WAS THE APOCRYHPA ADDED? This should be the question.
---George on 6/22/05


Auror, the vast majority of Christian in the world toay--and to say nothing about in the history of the Church, DO believe that the Apocrypha (OT, that is) is the Wor dof God.

Pop-evangelicals, however, do have a very limited view and knowledge of the spiritual experience of other Christians, however.

More's the pity.
---Jack on 6/22/05


Generally speaking, the Apocrypha of the Old Testament (deuterocanonical books) are 1&2 Maccabees, Judith, Sirach, Wisdom of Solomon, and the others. These are INCLUDED in the original KJV.

What most call the Pseudopigrapha (Assumption of Moses, Books of Jubilees) are sometimes called Apocrypha.

There is a collection of early Christian writings (Letter of Ignatius, Barnabas, which is NOT heretical, et al) which are sometimes collectively called "New Testament Apocrypha."
---Jack on 6/22/05


Alan, can you tell me then what the first major English translation did NOT contian the Apocrypha?

The KJVs that I have were printed in England AnD the contain the Apocrypha. I have a KJV Gospel book beautifully ilustrated, and it has the crown copyright notice on the inside of the title page. The Episle and Spalster that go with this have it as well.

Why do you think that the KJV could NOT be printed in North America before the American Revolution and US Independence was established?
---Jack on 6/22/05


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someone, i have personally read the Apocrypha, and the passage you have quoted is not contained in it. The Apocrypha is not God-breathed or God-spoken, but it is man-breathed or man-spoken. The Apocrypha is interesting, but it contains no spiritual significance to true sacred scripture, and should remain outside of the Testaments as they usually are.
---Eloy on 6/22/05


The Apocrypha were spurious writings that were added later and inserted into some versions of the Bible. But because they are uninspired (unbreathed or unspoken by God) they were kept out of the N.T.; and because they were never originally a part of the original Hebrew O.T. scriptures, they were also kept out of the O.T. and placed between the two Testaments.
---Eloy on 6/22/05


Barbara please name some then I shall check it out.My catholicism states itis the works of Heritics.
---Emcee on 6/21/05


Here we go again:
Praying for the dead
Praying to the dead
Praying to Mary
Praying to the Saints
Rosary beads
Statues
Confessions to a priest
Holy water
Mass cards
Calling a priest, Father
Baptizing of babies
Adding books to the Bible
Paying for prayers
Pope worship and kissing his ring
Pergatory
Limbo
And many other false teachings
This is the catholic way. Sad but true.
---Wendall on 6/21/05


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Don't the catholics believe this apocryhpa?
---Nancy on 6/21/05


My Pastor is very knowledgeable on scripture and other religions and cults, and he told me that the catholic church uses the apocryhpa in their bible. I am saved now and I know that he is right.
---Mary on 6/21/05


Jack, you say: "The first English version to omit is was the New American Standard of the 60's. Actually, in England, where the KJV is still under copyright, it's ILLEGAL to print a KJV withOUT the Apocrypha"

Where do you learn these truths?

They are not true.
---Alan_of_U.K. on 6/21/05


Emcee, if RCs don't use the Apocryhpa, why are SOME of the books included in the Douay version that Catholics use?
---NVBarbara on 6/21/05


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Someone, I looked at the link you provided and that is for the New Testment Gospel of Barnabas which is a fake gospel. It isn't the Apocryhpa used with the Bible. Therefore, the original quote and comments aren't the Apocryhpa, but the Gospel of Barnabas which Christians accept as heretical.
---Moderator on 6/21/05


The Bible including the Apocrypha would be only 73 books long with the old and the new testament. The apocryhpa was translated with the King James Bible from the Greek as seperate books. The Catholics translated them from the Latin vulgate. None ever mentioned Muhammed in either translation. Moslems have writings that change the Christian bible for their own purposes.
---Charlie on 6/21/05


John:Catholics DO NOT use the Apocrypha.1. Spurious scriptual books denoted by the fathers of the church as forgeries of heritcs.2.Books declared by St Jerome to be writings not recognised in the canon of Scripture.3.Writings declared by some BUT REJECTED by the Church.The protestant have a Apocrygha.(You do need some research.)
---Emcee on 6/21/05


If you read the Oxford Companion bible with the Apocrypha, the side notes states (I forgot where big help that I am...LOL) that though it does have valid points it is not historically correct and it was not the inspired Word of God. It may have been in the book of Tobias.
---Auror3743 on 6/21/05


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The passage I just gave is NOT in Isaiah, but the "erroneous" Apocrypha: Wisdom of Solomon 3:12 ff. It continues with what is CLEARLY a prophecy of Christ's Passion, even more detailed than Isaiah's, of the plotting of the Jewish authorities.

NOW do you see why the Rabbis removed the Apocrypha 60 years after Pentecost?
---Jack on 6/21/05


Let us lie in wait for the righteous, because is is not for our turn and he is clean contrary to our doings; he upbraideth us with our offending the law, and objecteth to our infamy the transgressings of our education. He professeth to have the knowledge of God: and he calleth himself the child of the Lord.

He was made to reprove our thoughts He is grievous unto us een to behold; for his life is not like other men's his ays are of another fashion. We are esteemed by him as counterfeits......
---jack on 6/21/05


The authenticity of the authors or the content of the records referred to as the Apocrypha could not be substantiated. They are interesting to read but add no additional knowledge of the doctrines of Jesus Christ and therefore, are not necessary to be included as part of the Bible.
---Tom on 6/21/05


Fourth: The Apocrypha was part of EVERY English translation, including the Geneva AND the King James. The first English version to omit is was the New American Standard of the 60's.

Actually, in England, where the KJV is still under copyright, it's ILLEGAL to print a KJV withOUT the Apocrypha!
---Jack on 6/21/05


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Second: It follows that the Apocrypha were NOT "added by the Roman Catholic Church." These books are accepted as scripture by ALL of the pre-reformation churches of the East, founded by the apostles themselves, that were not ever part of the Church of Rome.

Third: It was not until AFTER the Reformation that some Reformers (not all), hearkened to the enemies of Christ and REMOVED them.
---Jack on 6/21/05


First, the Apocrypha WAS considered God's word by the first generations of Christians. It was part of the Septuagint --LXX--and these books DID exist in Hebrew. The Jews did not remove these books until the Rabbinican Synod of Jamnia in 90 or so: a good 2 generations AFTER Pentecost!

Who made up this Rabbinical Synod? The spiritual children of the very men Jesus called "fools, blind guides, and whitewashed tombs."

Moderator - Jack, do the Eastern Orthodox Christians use the Apocrypha?
---Jack on 6/21/05


When he was translating the rest of the Bible, King James thought enough of the Apocrypha to have it translated as well. It was part of the Bible for longer than it has not been. Lots of politics went into deciding which books were part of the original canon. I have read them and think they contain some great truths.
---randy on 6/21/05




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