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Attend Baptist Or Pentecostal

I have had some bad experiences in the pentecostal church (saved in such a church) and am deciding whether to attend a Baptist Church instead, I struggle with the old fashioned worship but the teaching is solid. Which way should I turn?

Moderator - Try an Assembly of God church that is true to their doctrine or a Bapticostal church.

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NEITHER!!!
---John on 5/7/11


I realize this is an older post, Seek God's will as to where He wants you to worship. That being said, wherever you go,even led by the Lord, you may have bad experiences. It can happen anywhere since we are human. Is the doctrine sound? Is Jesus being lifted up? Is the Holy Spirit in control, or is it mans rituals? Many many questons may be asked.
---Christina on 5/6/11


Lawrence-- Sorry , but you can't take pride in saying your church i.e. Jesus name Apostolic Church of The living God, are the ones referred to in Matt 10:22. No matter how many times I read it, I do not see the name of your church there!
(nor anybody else's)
Could it be that this verse applies to any Christian who sticks to his principles and endures in the love of God?
Jesus told His followers ( not just your church) that they would be hated even as He was.
---Donna66 on 5/5/11


Dear, this question must be 1st asked to God Himself. He will sent His holy spirit to guide you.We go to church not to entertain ourselves or to get a good position.A church is where the power of god is manifested.The teachings and doctrines must be sound.

So dear/ brother/sister, please consult Our Saviour itself to lead you to a place where you can worship Him, learn about Him and His Teachings without any compromises.A church will prepare u for the soon return of Christ.
Col 1:28, Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom, that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:

God bless you and lead you the right place where He can build & mould you and prepare for His Kingdom.
---PANinan on 5/4/11


Attend Baptist Or Pentecostal?

1: Study the bible first ( a good reference and compainion is THE IMAGE OF GOD IN THIS GENERATION serving and worshiping an unchanging God)

2a: Study baptist general theology. Know that there is slight difference in doctrine from one baptist church to the other
2b: study penticostal doctrine. know that there are several branches of penticostal

3 see which one IF ANY line up wit the word of the unchanging God

then make your move.
---FRANCIS on 6/27/10




ignatius
The Jesus name Apostolic Pentecostal Church according to Acts 2 v's 37 - 41 which Is the early Church, that the devil & roman emperor with nero with the great crusades went to kill off, the devil 2nd.Cor.11 v's 14 - 15 gave carnal Man to start their own following the Man-made trin - rcc & then her daughters churches came later on. The Man-made trin - relig - org's churches are here also Rev.17 v's 4 - 6.

Still today, the Jesus name Apostolic Church of The living God ( Matt.10 v 22. ) We Are the ones that Is hated for Jesus name, His name sake.

The Man-mades does Not apply.
---Lawrence on 6/25/10


No one can tell you what congregation to attend. It is obvious by the replies you have received already. Remember, when Christ walked the earth there were two groups of people, the Jews and the Gentiles. There were no other congregations or groups. Even John the Baptist was NOT a Baptist. He baptised but he was not a Baptist. (Another word in itself.)

I recommend that you pray and allow the Holy Ghost to lead you. Visit several congregations. You will know the right one when you find it. Do not search by denomination. Search by prayer and the Holy Ghost.
---Troy on 3/14/10


I would suggest a denomination that emphasizes strong doctrinal views on Scripture. While many teach the Bible, apart from doctrine there can be little understanding of the Bible or its Author.

Pentecostal church are too experience oriented and often too shallow when it comes to Christian doctrine. One that is truly into study of the Bible, soon grows out of such type churches.

There are far too many different type Baptist denominations. I found some to be very good others horrible. All too often they hide many of their unique beliefs in their by-laws - such things as restrictions on divorced people holding office, Bible versions, roles of women, etc. One should view these by-laws before joining.
---Lee1538 on 3/14/10


This blog is a brain twister. It's as if one said should I attend an African Methodist Episcopalian or a Reformed Mennonite meeting. A Missouri Synod Lutheran congregation or Rick Warren's Saddleback Church. For anyone in this situation, find a grace orientated Charismatic Church with good teaching and an honest and true Pastor. Or the fabled "Bapticostal" congregation. Psalm 133:1, John 17:20-23, Romans 12:5, 9-16, 1Corinthians 12:20, Ephesians 2:19-22, 4:1-7.
---Glenn on 3/14/10


Though i attend a Baptist Church, i would like you to know that God has a place for you in a particular church that I cannot tell right now. In that congregation(which is not perfect), the Lord expects you to receive and give. Please ASK the Lord to LEAD you to that congregation. Be aware that whoever shall live the right life in Christ will suffer persecution. So, in all the ones you are contemplating going to, bad experiences await you also.
---Adetunji on 3/8/10




How do you choose?

My View: try a Seventh Day Adventist church, it does not matter which congregation you choose, the teaching are the same world wide.
---francis on 3/8/10


Yes, that is very true Mark V. There are Latin (and perhaps even some Eastern) Catholics who are Pro-Choice, and agree with Same-Sex Marriages, despite that there church is agaisnt them. I see similar cases in many Protestant sects, where one will disagree with some aspects of there church, yet maintain that there are "Lutheran" or "Methodist" (how this is possible is beyond my understanding).

My take on this is that once you start rejecting "Articles of Faith" from your church, then you have enter into SCHISM, and are thus a Schismatic. Thus, you should cease calling yourself Catholic, Lutheran, Baptist, or whatever.....

In IC.XC.,
---Ignatius on 3/6/10


Donna66, you are so right, none of the denominational churches teach the same thing. Many different Baptist, Pentacostals, even Catholics. I'm Baptist and I visited a few that are not teaching the Articals of faith the Baptist have taught for centuries. The Pentacostals do the same, they have Neo- and many others sects that separated them.
The fact remains, what does a person know already to be true? That will mostly lead him or her to the one they will be comfortable with.
---MarkV. on 3/6/10


I hope Louise looks at these viewpoints as those of individuals and finds a church that is a good "fit" for her. It's not my sense that she doesn't know what to believe as some have suggested... It's just a matter of finding a place to grow and worship. Her post is old. I trust she's found that place. But many are looking even now I think. May the Lord guide them.
---Donna66 on 3/6/10


I have listened to you all whack on us AOG/COG members and you know what? You are all right and you are all wrong.

The right church for you is the right church for you. The right church for me may not be the right church for you.

If you want to slam other churches, be my guest. You might want to consider what you will say to Jesus when he asks you why you blasphemed other parts of His body.
---Mark_Eaton on 3/5/10


Lawrence -- I have a question for you:

Mar 14:35-36 And he went forward a little, and fell on the ground, and prayed that, if it were possible, the hour might pass from him.
And he said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee, take away this cup from me: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt.

Since you don't believe in the trinity,

Who is Jesus talking to here?

And why the disparity of wills?

---Donna66 on 3/5/10


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Why not try a Seventh day Adventist church. We have a number of former Pencoastals and Baptists who belong to my home church.

One of my favorite ministers was a Baptist minister for 20 years before becoming and SDA.

True our service is very much like a Baptist church service. But you can get used to it.
---Samuel on 3/5/10


Want a church on fire, visit and research its outreach and evangelism?

Pentecostal churches are no closer to God than any other congregation so don't put much weight in "having church". You may be at a point where you need solid teaching (John MacArthur or Chuck Swindoll) more than preaching. God will let you know.

The body is big enough for both Jack Graham and T.D. Jakes.
---larry on 3/4/10


francis on 3/4/10 The problem is this: People who are unsure what the bible teaches, are unsure where to go or what demonination to belong to.

Those who are unsure have no idea of right division 2 Tim 2:15

Where do you find the word denomination in the Bible or any scripture that remotely refers to it?
---michael_e on 3/4/10


The problem is this: People who are unsure what the bible teaches, are unsure where to go or what demonination to belong to.

Let me make it plain,
To be considered as True church, you must teach TWO things:
The LAW and the TESTIMONY/ PROPHETS

Many denominations teach the testimony ( what jesus did, is doing, and will do for our salvation) But few teach the LAW

There are ONLY two things in the entire bible: The LAW and the Testimony

Isaiah 8:16 Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples.

Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, [it is] because [there is] no light in them.
---francis on 3/4/10


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I can identify with your situation. I was saved in a pentecostal church but later came to desire more expository teaching in the Word.
I've been attending a Baptist church for several years. The teaching is good, the people are warm and giving...but the worship service is almost depressing.

Mod has a good suggestion. All AOG churches are not the same and you may not find a "bapticostal" (not an actual denomination) church in your area. You must, pardon the expression, "shop around" until you find a church that meets most of your needs.

Alternatively, you may end up going to a good spirit- filled worship service Sunday AM, but find a good mid-week Bible Study elsewhere (perhaps even outside of a church).
---Donna66 on 3/4/10


Ever since the rrc the mother apostate church came along, later her off-spring apostate churches the presby, luth, naz, bapt, epsic, method etc churches using their philosophy & theology twisting scriptures to say things
that God's Word doesn't say, even the False trin - teachings, them people Are here, 2nd. Tim.3 v 7.
Are Such Good people But so spiritually darkened.
---Lawrence on 3/4/10


I have had some bad experiences in the pentecostal church (saved in such a church) and am deciding whether to attend a Baptist Church instead, I struggle with the old fashioned worship but the teaching is solid. Which way should I turn?

Attend neither.

Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, [it is] because [there is] no light in them.
---francis on 3/4/10


The UPC was a Pentecostal sect that was formed in 1945. Oneness Pentecostals separated from there Mother Church, the Assemblies of God, over the doctrine of Holy Trinity, etc.After that, many splits happened, but eventually the Oneness Pentecostals started a church and call it the United Pentecostal Church.

Although they claim Apostolic origin, they can not trace there roots historically.

The foundation of there teachings dates back to the false teachings of Sabellius, a third century priest and theologian. His teaching was condemn by the Church. Sabellians experienced glossolalia and baptized in the "shorter formula" because of their denial of the Holy Trinity, just like there descendants, the UPC.

In IC.XC.,
---Ignatius on 3/4/10


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The heterodox sect,UPC, falsely claim that they are in the Book of Acts because they are misguided on three points:

1) They reasoned that because Acts mentions that the gift of speaking in tongues was present in the Church during the Apostolic era, and because they too experienced this gift, then "logically", they are the only true Church of God.

2) They falsely believe that the Holy Apostles was Anti-Trinitarians, and since they are Anti-Trinitarians, then "logically", they are the only true Church of God.

3) They falsely interpret texts in Acts that speaks about Baptism in the name of Jesus as proof that we should not Baptized in the Holy Trinity, the Traditional and Orthodox way.

In IC.XC.,
---Ignatius on 3/4/10


Donna
UPC,ALJC,others,pertain to The Jesus name Apostolic Pentecost Church. Acts 2 v's 37-41 which Fulfills Matt.28 v's 19-20(God's Only Bible Salvation plan,the wedding garment) & this God given Salv-Plan was delivered to the Jewish people First by Apostle Peter on the day of Pentecost. Apostle Paul brought this Very Same to us gentiles. The devil has gotton the trin-leaders denying this.
The cog,aog,4-square etc pentecost Are Man-made relig-org's churches,came from here,2nd.Cor.11 v's 14-15 beginning with rcc the first trin-church,the mother apostate church. The trin-people stand here,Matt.15 v 9,2nd.Cor.4 v 4,John 10 v 1,Matt.22 v's 11-13.<-The man here had Not the w-garment & represents ALL Man-made relig-org's churches.
---Lawrence on 3/4/10


Is the United Pentecostal church in the book of Acts? I've never seen it there.
---Donna66 on 3/3/10


Which pentecost chuch, cog, aog, 4-square, or other, even in the book of Acts ?
---Lawrence on 3/3/10


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Seek out a Biblical NT "denomination" if you can find one. Was not the Pentecostal assembly in the book of Acts under Law? Was not John the "Baptist" under Law. How can you have a NT church with a OT name?
---michael_e on 3/3/10


Search for a TRUE BIBLE CHURCH!
---Rob on 3/3/10


It does not matter the denomination as long as the true word of God is taught. The ordinances of the church should be offered to the congregants like baptism,Lords Supper and so forth. Hopefully the leader and pastor(s) are holy ghost-filled , saved leaders who lived exemplary lives before the church. Outreach,missions and other ministries are available for entire church to participate in. Each members in that church should be doing something to carry forth the work of Christ. If most of these parts are working in the church,you should be ok. Get in there and do what God has called you to do. Again denomination is not really important. If you want to switch,then switch. You need to have a church home. That 's what important.
---Robyn on 3/3/10


First of all the web is NO PLACE to seek such advice. Stay with the full gospel. If the worship is stale, there are other places that are full gospel to attend. Make this a matter of prayer & fasting. God will direct you.
---Pastor_Scott on 11/24/07


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How about choosing a church where you can serve the lost, broken and hurting since you seem like a Christian. Don't worry about being comfortable. It's time to grow up, be a mature Christian, and serve the body.
---MichelleS on 10/2/07


Why don't you seek God for the answer instead of asking man what church to attend it is not a what church you attend it about what experience you have received with the Lord
---Betty on 10/1/07


The arm of flesh will surely fail, Keep your eyes on God, worship Him in Spirit and in Truth, I hate religions, they all have an element of stench to them somehow, I am Non-Denominational, On Jesus Christ "ALONE" I stand all other ground is sinking sand.
---Whisper on 9/30/07


i want a non-denominational church that moves in the gifts. Believes Jesus is ALIVE. And speaks the word - is not plagued by petty politics and focuses on Him.
Worship is the greatest scarifice we can give Him,evangelism and love.

I have little patience for trying to agree on every point of doctrine. And the mainline frozen chosen turn me off.

There are lots of great churches and even more lousy ones.
Bapticostal non-denom pent is good.
be blessed.
---Andrea on 9/30/07


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Avoid pentecostal churches as their focus on man, his ability, his will, his greatness, his gifts, his works, new revelation detract from God who gives mercy to whom He gives mercy.
---Justin on 9/30/07


Pray about it to God, He will take you where you need to be in the body of christ.
---Lamont on 4/9/07


Go where you feel accepted, where you are feed spiritually and where you are comfortable in worship style. your preferences change over time, and I'm guessing if you are being feed spiritually and you feel accepted in a more "old fashioned" worship service the comfort will change.

What is the deal with the moderator's pushing Assembly of God. I thought it was an interdenominational site.
---Jared on 12/7/06


try a freewill baptist or united baptist- baptist w/ some pentacostal beliefs
---r.w. on 12/7/06


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bruce, I already addressed this point in a previous blog. I write from the Holy Spirit, and with the freedom to use upper and lower case letters.
---Eloy on 8/20/06


Eloy,
I noted with your return you began to use capitol letters for people's names yet you continue to not do so for mine. Is this to be taken as a personal insult? This does not seem befitting a "holy man".
---Bruce5656 on 8/20/06


Note: You won't find "Bapticostal" in the yellow pages or on a church sign. What you want may be listed under "nondenominational".
---Donna2277 on 8/20/06


bruce, My highest standards have led me in years of searching for a good church, and after a magnanimous amount of visitations and a very long and exhaustive search I have settled on an Apostolic church. BTW, I do not agree with all of their beliefs, nevertheless they worship "Jesus only", and it is full of the Holy Ghost, which is very important in these last days. Thus, the context of "my highest standards."
---Eloy on 8/19/06


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bruce, Thank you. My words may sound condescending to you, nevertheless my words will always remain the truth however they may be received by the hearer; whether my word be received as condescension or as irrelevant or as substantial and full of life.
---Eloy on 8/19/06


Eloy
Welcome back.

"It is difficult for me because I have the highest standards and do not have my very own church"

Read that again. Can you not see how such a statement sounds condescending. It implies that you have a higher standard than anyone else and for the rest of us to be happy in the churches we attend have compromised biblical standards/truth to do so.
---Bruce5656 on 8/19/06


Eloy ... You are so right there
---alan8869_of_UK on 8/19/06


Church preference is an individual choice. And there are almost as many different kinds of churches as there are different kinds of people. It is difficult for me because I have the highest standards and do not have my very own church, but I currently go to an Apostolic church. I pray that you find a strong New Testament Holy Bible believing church that is full of the Holy Ghost.
---Eloy on 8/19/06


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yes, united baptits...
---daz on 8/19/06


Um, as a child marred by the old fashioned form of Pentecost - Baptiste. I would not do that to my child, there's believing in God and than there's boderline cult.
---Sharon on 8/18/06


free will baptist is the way to go. or united baptits
---rw on 8/18/06


Peter did not build any church. And when apostles were gathered in Jerusalem debating, Paul openly criticize or corrected Peter. Ask God about Peter and your beliefs about him(Peter).
---mima on 3/14/06


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When people are without Christ and outside of Christ they offend, so a bad experience can be had in any church. When you say you struggle with the "old fashioned worship", is that "dead worship"? When the Israelites were in the wilderness their hearts wanted to go back into Egypt into bondage again also. When you have the true Spirit of worship, continue with this. If the bad experiences are trite, forgive them, if unable then try another Pentecostal church like the Moderator suggests.
---Eloy on 3/14/06


Personally, I think if we attend a nondenominational church exclusively, then we are denominational. We belong to a clike. We are supposed to serve in a corporate structure but we've replaced common sense with denominational rhetoric and prejudiced press releases. That's my humble opinion anyway. God bless.
---rex6965 on 3/14/06


Why don't we try to be God-loving, Jesus following, Bible studying Christians instead of worrying about the denominational relationships? I am multidenominational. I study with the Lutherans, was baptized at an Assembly of God church, I attend a Baptist church and a full-gospel Presbyterian church sometimes. I search for the word wherever I can find it. To be continued
---rex6965 on 3/14/06


To elder, You say a non-denominational church is a denomination, then are you saying the church Peter built is a denomination? Peter built the true church!
---Thomas on 3/14/06


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We are all different and if there is one person in here that they haven't been hurt in some way by a pastor or church member i will be suprised I know i have but i didn't change churches .i have just hung in there.
---betty on 3/13/06


church isn't about denomination, but about God and His word. heaven won't be divided by denominations; in fact, Jesus Himself warned against division among His people (Mt 12:25). find a Bible-believing church that teaches His word, and don't worry about denomination.
---gabriel on 8/3/05


God is gathering maturing sons of Christ; members with different functions,("edifying of the Body of Christ"):"compacted" together! The 'church' is an assembly of worshippers, around the world, in the unity of faith and knowledge of the Son of God unto a perfect man. Eph 4: 11-16. Discernment is vital to divide the Word of truth.I love beautiful anointed worship; teachings in Australia are not meaty, and lack of discipleship, so I rely on the Holy Spirit.
Esthe9449 7/20/05
---Esther on 7/20/05


There are fanatics in any denomination.Also poorly taught people sometimes are gullible enough to fall for the showy type of ministry.The Bible teaches to try the spirits.I've experienced, even when a minister is enjoyed by most,I have had a check in my spirit that he isn't what he should be.The Spirit prompting me has never been wrong.People make the mistake of following the preacher-congregation's lead when they need to listen to the leading of God.Not every church leader or member is a child of God.
---Darlene_1 on 7/19/05


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First, before you move on, find out what is causing your problems in your present church. (If you don't you may just be taking your old problems with you.) In any church, ask: "Are they Christ Centered?", "What are there doctrinal statments?, "Do they base there beliefs on the Bible - in it's proper context, or do they confuse Biblical truths with cultural beliefs.?" Then make you move if you want do.
---Ray on 7/19/05


Moderator....The AOG are no different than any other denomination or other church.There is good and bad in all..
The doctrine of "using all the Gifts of the Spirit"(in which i fully believe)is abused in alot of churches today,be it AOG ,Church of GOD,First Assemblies,or non-denom. All it tackes is for man to get involved and something beautiful and sacred gets tainted.
LOVE JESUS

Moderator - I referring to heretical doctrine that has been spreading in many churches for years such as name it and claim it or so seeker friendly at the expense scripture.
---co_ach on 7/19/05


Moderator and others, I was in 2 AOG churches and had very abusive experiences in both, I am wary of them now (at least here in Australia)

Moderator - Were they true AOG churches or ones that had bad doctrine which has gotten into many pentecostal churches today?
---Louise on 7/19/05


For me it is all about the doctrine. If it is true to God's word, outlined in the Pauline epistles. 2Timothy 2:15 talks about rightly dividing the word of truth. When you start combining the prophetic program given to the Jews and the message for the Body of Christ you will run into problems. For some it is more important to study the scripture on your own instead of some corrupted doctrine from some church. Start in Romans and see where your reading takes you.
---geraa7578 on 6/27/05


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"Is Christ divided"? You'll never find a perfect 'denominational' church on earth or in heaven [Adam & Eve were perfect until...], Take a 'sabatical' of sorts, and visit different scripturely sound 'churches' til you find an 'assembly' you feel free in, 'watch care' before joining! You may end up in another Pentecostal Church! God troubles our 'waters' at times! [Paul/Barnabas, read "Azuza Street"]. God's Best! I'VE BEEN THERE BEFORE!
---ELishama on 6/27/05


As a former Baptist it would be difficult for me to go back after experiencing the gifts of the Spirit. There are many non-denominational churches you could try. Assemblies of God would also be a good choice. Most Baptist churches have sound doctrine as far as salvation is concerned, but many of them teach against the gifts of the Spirit. You should seek the Lord before deciding where to go.
---Rick on 6/25/05


All you can do is pray about it and go to the church God wants you in.
---Heather on 6/24/05


I attend a pentecostal church . I have had bad experiences also. But I have learned to seek God in all things, he will come through for you. I did not leave but I keep on doing what God has called me to do. In every denomination there will always be some sorts of struggle. Before you leave discuss your struggles with the pastor and seek the Lord. Maybe God has place you there so you may bring changes in the way how they worship. Remember you weren't called by man it's by God. Seek God to direct your path.
---Janett on 6/24/05


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You cannot decide soley on the denomination, for that is not as important as the Preacher and the Bible which he chooses to preach from is. i have attended many different churches over the years. And it doesn't matter how gifted the preacher is, if he is using any newer Bible then the KJV, for if you have a corrupt text, then you're not going to have the dunamis Word of God being preached.
---Eloy on 6/24/05


I would try a non demonational church, or a worship church. But mostly go to where God can use you the most. All churches have good people in them, some not so good. I would pray and ask God where he wants you.
---Rebecca_D on 6/23/05


Have you tryed another chuch simular to what you were raised? not all churches are the same. just because they share a name doesn't mean they are it's a starting point.
---laure5469 on 6/23/05


It makes no difference what Denomination you are, as the non-denominational Church is a denomination, it is ALWAYS best to go where there is SOUND Doctrine being taught and is solid as you say.

The problem is most Church people do not know what Sound Doctrine is.
---Elder on 6/23/05


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I agree with the Moderator about the Assembly of God Church.They are every bit Pentecostal, but you won't find them fanatics.Their Doctrine lines up with the Word,and I have found the people to be warm, friendly,and loving.I tried a Baptist Church ,and the people were wonderful,but I missed the moving in HG Gifts.Also if you're used in any of the Gifts of the HG you need to be where God can use you.To your own self be true.Roots run deep.
---Darlene_1 on 6/23/05


well, solid doctrine and teaching is an absolute, I understand your delema, keep searching for a church that is open to the Holy Spirit, yet has sound Biblical doctrine. They are out there. Maybe an internet search in your area would help. though the best means of finding a good church is a referal. also some Christian radio may give some local insights.
---Dave on 6/23/05


Petition God and ask Him to direct you to the church He would have you attend. He'll let you know in no uncertain terms where He wants you. But don't just give Him a couple of choices. Leave it totally open to Him- maybe He'll lead you somewhere that you would least expect. He led me, thru a high school friend when I was 15, to my church, where I have been an active member for 37 years. God bless you.
---Ann5758 on 6/23/05


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