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Was The World Made In 6 Days

Did God create the world in six literal days? The Bible says the morning and the evening were the first day, etc. Some scholars believe this refers to ages of time.

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When people quote God as having said 'a day is as a thousand years' they forget that He also said 'a thousand years is as a day'. So instead of saying 6 days really meant 6000 years why not work out how many nanoseconds it could have taken Him instead. It's easier to accept the 6000 years isn't it? but I prefer to accept it took Him 6 real 24 hour days just as His Word says.
---Xanthi on 12/12/07

5) In Gen 2:17, for in that day thou shalt surely die means that they would die prematurely. Prior to that time nothing had died. Because of their sin, death entered the earth and things started to die as of that day. Think of it like when the big bad Godfather says youre a dead man. Although he wasnt actually dead at that point, he soon would be.
---Hunter on 12/28/05

4) When the Bible says a day to God is as 1000 years it means that Gods time is eternal. It has nothing to do with the length of a day to man. God is omnipotent. It is said so that man can understand that God even has power over time and can change it at will. In the rest of the Bible, the use of day and days is from mans point of view and doesnt mean a thousand years.
---Hunter on 12/28/05

3) In Exodus 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it., why would this be different than all of the other times (number) days is used in the Bible? It doesnt say just days it says SIX days. This means exactly what it says, six 24 hour periods!
---Hunter on 12/28/05

2)Since it says "first day", then it means the first literal 24 hour period, whereas, if it had said "first days" then it could be many days or years. In Gen 6:3, when it says "his days shall be an hundred and twenty years" it means 120 years. This is not saying that the word days in this verse means years but that there are 120 years worth of days in a lifetime. In the days of Noah means during Noahs lifetime.
---Hunter on 12/28/05

1) The Bible must be taken literally so look at it in whole rather than in part. God did it all in six days. With the help of my computerized Bible, I checked the use of the words "day" and "days" throughout the Bible. Anytime either word is used along with a number it refers to a specific period of time. However, when they are used without a number it just means at some period of time.
---Hunter on 12/28/05

Rick, I also believe the bible is all true too. I have no problem with it at all. Yes, there is some scriptures that I still have no answers that I am happy with but many others don't have the answers either so I don't feel bad about it but would like to know one day. Thank you brother Rick, it was nice talking to you.
---lupe2618 on 7/27/05

I've been a Christian for 16 years and I know what you mean about revelation from the Holy Spirit. Yet I still believe the Bible is all true. I understand the multiple meanings, quickening, etc. I've found that the only times I've been wrong about something concerning theology is when I didn't take the Bible literal enough.
---Rick on 7/27/05

Here on this website I have learned from many, and that is what God wants the body of Christ to do, to help each other and learn for our assignments that God has for us later on. We might not use what we have learned right away but later on we will. A correct understanding of Scripture is a serious matter to God. We can be subborn or we can submit to the Spirit. That is the only way I can put it for you brother. I hope I have helped in some way.
---lupe2618 on 7/27/05

3. As a baby Christian I had many questions. I could have left it that way or, if I was serious about learning, I would look to see if my questions would be answered. I went to a Bible store and got some books on interpretations. They helped me a lot but it wasn't so much the books that helped me but God giving me the want to find out. He will give His word in many ways, sometimes through another brother that knows something you don't, and God reveals something to you that you will need later on in life.
---lupe2618 on 7/27/05

2. Many walk into a verse with a preconceive view of what he already believes and looks to understand it on that believe. When our hearts are open to God's word we let the Spirit guide us in reading. That is why we should pray and ask God to reveal His word to us, and we do that so we don't reveal our word to it. It is His work in us that does the revelation. Let me give you an example:
---lupe2618 on 7/27/05

Rick, I believe that we have to start our walk with God believing that the Bible is truth. All of it. Interpreting some verses do take some work. Some are very clear and don't need much work. In order to understand it we have to believe in it first. Anyone can read it but if the Spirit of God is not in him, then he will read it like the world does. No spiritual discernment. You can argue as much as you want on some verses, but it is only becuase of your understanding of the verse.
---lupe2618 on 7/27/05

If the Bible only contains the truth then we have another problem. How do we know which parts are true? How would we know if the gospel account is true or not? I know some Christians believe this way because they are teaching that the other religions are just different roads to the same God.
---Rick on 7/27/05

Lupe ... No I will not be putting my question ... I have put it before and been told I cannot be a Christian unless I believe a certain thing, or reject a certain thing.
The same contrary arguments are made each time, and that's really because of a different approach to the Bible ... whether it contains the "TRUTH" about the greatness and love of God, or is "true" i.e. literally accurate in every word.
---Alan8869_of_UK on 7/26/05

Alan, I will be waiting to see your question posted and see how others think on that. It would be interesting to see how others will answer. Don't worry about the question just check what they say. There is many on line that are very knowledgable. I just read many times and don't answer because I wait to see what others know, if it helps me in my walk of faith I use it, if my spirit discerns it to be wrong I just let it go. Many answers have helped me a lot. edifying the body of Christ. thanks
---lupe2618 on 7/26/05

Hi Alan, I do know that we can put our opinion on things and that is been human. During the writings there is many cases where the writer puts his feelings and the pain he is going through. That too is God's word because it in all written God inspired. It is easy to put something we know now that didn't happen then. We have problems in the world right now that seem like the bible should have told us but didn't. I keep mentioning faith because that is what we exercise as Christians.
---lupe2618 on 7/26/05

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Lupe ... I agree with your comments about this ... as I have said before, for me the Bible contains TRUTH, which is not the same as literal truth, literally accurate accounts. I think this is much what you are saying..
---Alan8869_of_UK on 7/26/05

5. In the case of the flood, the man could be explaining the flood through his eyes, meaning, all the mountains I see or all the animals died that I could see. Or he expressed everything through God's eyes and wrote it that way. It is something no one really knows either. Of course the percentage goes for universal. Just my opinion only Jeffery. Not for arguement. If someone else puts evolution into the writings then it is not good.
---lupe2618 on 7/26/05

3. If he wrote explaining the verse through God's eyes, then it would be universal flood. When Paul is angry at the believers he is angree himself and is showing his feelings. The whole Bible is God's word and it all has one instincit meaning, is written by man moved by God. I didn't want to ask the question on the flood in the first place because I didn't know what kind of answers I was going to get.
---lupe2618 on 7/26/05

2.many places in Scripture there is many questions. Not just that one. It is inspired by God and it is written by man. The writers in Scripture many times put their own feelings when writing God's word. Conditions they are going through like Paul when he was in prison. So you see writers feelings are also included with God's words. The reason I asked the question on "The Flood" is because of that reason. If looked through the eyes of the writer when he was writing, it would be a local flood,
---Lupe2618 on 7/26/05

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Brother Jeffery, not everyone think as you do and understand what you understand. many want to look at Scripture as if to find something that is not there. Yes the writer of Genesis was inspired by God and wrote what God told him to write, and if God didn't want to explain the days, I believe He didn't find it important enough for us to know. Seems to me He was more interested in telling us whom He was and that He created it that way.
---lupe2618 on 7/26/05

I agree that the Bible is not a science book. God is more interested in spiritual matters. So God does not seem to waste a lot of space on giving us details of His manner of creation. However, I would expect God to be accurate with the few details He does give us.
---Rick on 7/26/05

Lupe2618, please remember that Genesis is part of the Word of God, not the word of man. God is the Author, not the man who wrote down the words God told him to write.

God knew all the scientific facts and particulars and what He wrote is accurate. However, we inaccurate humans constantly ignore evidence placed right in front of us. And, even when we get the facts straight, we often draw the wrong conclusions.

Read my entry below and write me if you want a better explanation. - jeffr5976
---Jeffrey on 7/26/05

I have to repeat this: the age of the earth has NOTHING to do with evolution! I wish people wouldn't automatically assume that just because someone accepts an old earth, he therefore must automatically think evolution is also true. That's false and unfair. The two theories are not even remotely related.
---Billy on 7/25/05

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5. For one, the day does not have exact 24 hours, I believe it is 23hrs, 56min. but could be wrong. That is why we have a leap year. So just that is not even at that. Six creative "days" are given specifying what was created each day. No one will really know if it was 6,600,6000 are the exact number.
---lupe2618 on 7/25/05

5. The questions that arise when studying the three chapters or, When did the creation take place? What process was used in creating the universe and man? Were these "days" periods of twenty-four hours as today, or were they longer periods? Did satan appear in person? Why did the tempter appear to Eve rather than Adam? All of them are interesting, but are not essential to an understanding of the events. some can be answered but others are matters of opinions.
---lupe2618 on 7/25/05

3. He was interested in God's part in the creation of the universe. In this first chapter of Genesis the expression "and God" is found thirty times. Indeed almost every sentence in the chapter is a statement of what God did or said. Moses does not specify the method or process used in the creation of the world. To him the important fact is that the eternal God is the sole creator. Matter is not eternal, God alone is eternal. God is not confined to the universe; He is over all and in all.
---Lupe2618 on 7/25/05

2. It is improper and unfair to take statements made by this writer centuries ago, put them over against scientific views now held, and attempt to determine whether the Genesis account is true or false. In this connection it should be said that no real scientist or person will claim that he now knows the whole truth. The writer, Moses, of these accounts, was concerned not with the scientific or ways we see things now but with the religious emphasis.
---Lupe2618 on 7/25/05

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To begin with, we should recognize the fact that the writer of Genesis especially the first three chapters was not concerned with science as we understand it. He knew nothing of our scientific approach or method, and so was not concerned with it. He certainly was not attempting to produce a detailed account which centuries later might be said to be ocrrect or incorrect judged by the scientific method.
---lupe2618 on 7/25/05

Rick ... all you say has been said before.
As I said, I do not find a billion year timescale at odds with the Truth of the Bible (note I do not say "literal accuracy", or "truth", but "Truth")
I believe both that God speaks to us through His Bible, and that scientists can sometimes be right.
As I say there is no conflict for me. You may not understand, but you are not me, and neither is your relationship with God mine
---Alan8869_of_UK on 7/25/05

Alan, God said He created the world in six days. He didn't say the Earth is billions of years old, man did. The evidence that evolutionists use to say this may actually be remnants of the flood. Remember that evolutionists are biased. Who do you believe, them or God?
---Rick on 7/25/05

A more thorough study of Gen 1 combined with Isaiah and other scriptures reveals that God created the heaven and the earth (Gen 1:1) at some unknown time in the past, then the devil fought God and ruined the first heaven and earth (Gen 1:2), then God spoke the heaven and earth back into order in seven days (Gen 1:3 - 2:3). Note the words "was" in v. 2; and that "created" is used in only 3 incidents.

We live in heaven and earth #2, but the explanation is too long for this forum.
---jeffr5976 on 7/24/05

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No Elder ... I think you must know all the telescope has to do is to be here when the light particles arrive here, whether they left the object 12 days or billions of years ago. It is all a great mystery, whether the timescale is 6x24 hour days, or billions of years ... we cannot understand HOW God did it either way.
---Alan8869_of_UK on 7/24/05

This Billion years thing is foolish just based upon what is being said.
The Hubble Telescope sees something a Billion light years away so the item must be a billion years old. What a joke.
If that were true the Telescope would have had to be set up a billion years ago also.
Wonder what they used to keep it from rusting.
---Elder on 7/24/05

Rick ... your comment "To say six days and mean 6,000 years or more would just seem to cause confusion" made me wonder why, if God did make the world literally in 6 X 24-hour days, why did He put so much evidence of a billion year development of the planet and it's occupants? That is creating confusion. I do not find the billion year theory at odds with the Truth of the Bible or with anything that it says, but I know I am in a minority here!
---Alan8869_of_UK on 7/24/05

Moderator ... But my view is that Genesis is not necessarily literally accurate ... the important thing is that we understand that God made everything ... the details of HOW He did it is unimportant.
---Alan8869_of_UK on 7/24/05

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Moderator ... Perhaps Genesis does not describe the creation of the universe ... that may have been done (by God) over billions of years, then the Genesis account says how God fashioned the world? That would allow Hubble to fit in with the 6-day understanding of Creation.

Moderator - I think the 6 day creation doesn't conflict with the billions of light years because God just created it that way. He isn't confined to time as we are.
---Alan8869_of_UK on 7/24/05

Moderator ... I don't think you have answered the Hubble space telescope question fully.
The point about the telescope, is that it has taken billions of years fro the image to reach us, so the thing we are looking at must have been there billions of years ago.
If that's true, the universe must be that old.
---Alan8869_of_UK on 7/24/05

Evolution is false, but that has nothing to do with how old the world is. There's so much evidence of an old earth, from so many different unrelated fields. Why would God mean six literal days and then design the world in such a way as to completely deceive us about that fact and lead so many people astray from Him? I can't believe God is like that. I accept the fact that Scripture is always true, but fallible humans can misinterpret it.
---Billy on 7/23/05

Thorne, if the universe is less than 10,000 years old how can the Hubble Telescope photograph objects at distances of greater than Billion Light Years Away.

Moderator - Easy, God made it that way from the beginning.
---phia4633 on 7/22/05

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There seems to be no problem stating that "God created", there seems to be no problem with Him creating from nothing; so why the problem with Him creating everything from nothing in six literal days? God used order in creating. He set a foundation in the first three days: 1st-light/dark; 2nd sky/water; 3rd-land/plantlife; into which He placed 4th-sun, moon,stars. 5th- birds/fish; 6th-animal-life/mankind,all mature, ready to reproduce. On the 7th He rested to set an example for us.
---Judy on 7/4/05

Good point FF
---laure5469 on 7/3/05

I could buy the Day-Age theory if it weren't for the fact that the Genesis account was God's spoken word to mankind. It would seem logical that since God was speaking to us that He meant 6 days literally. To say six days and mean 6,000 years or more would just seem to cause confusion.
---Rick on 7/3/05

I have just watched a video which stated that Charles Darwin is buried in Westminster Abbey. The reason; his cousin (Francis Geldner) and Huxley, both humanists, felt that this would be seen as the church honouring Darwin and this would help humanism. Psalm 11:3 reads 'If the foundations be destroyed what can the righteous do?' Those who cannot accept the teachings of Genesis have had their foundations destroyed. How many once Christian colleges in America are now atheistic and teach evolution as fact?
---F.F. on 7/3/05

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Does anyone think that Jonah spent 3000 years in the belly of a whale or that Joshua marched around the walls of Jericho for 7000 years? If not why not? Why is it only in the book of Genesis that some Christians have a problem with the meaning of the word 'day'? If God had meant a long period of time there are many words He could have used to convey that but He chose to use the word combined with the number '1st day' '2nd day' etc. to convey that these were 24 hour days.
---F.F. on 7/3/05

Peter cont'd. I am also sure that somewhere there is a verse which states that only descendents of Adam will be saved. I cannot find it at the moment but will keep trying and come back on this if I find it. Perhaps someone else knows the verse I refer to. The point I make is:- If only the descendents of Adam can be saved there is no hope for those who are descended from either other human beings or apes.
---Xanthi on 7/3/05

Peter you say 'Adam and Eve are simply the gender variants on the hebrew word for "humankind".' Yes, now, but were they then? The bible tells me that Adam and Eve were the names of the very first 2 individuals created by God. Please read Romans 5:15-18 where you will see Adam referred to - not as a race of man - but as 15. one man, 16. that one man, 17. that one man, 18. one man. Likewise Jesus, who is the last Adam is referred to as 15. that one man, 17. the one man, 18 one man.
---Xanthi on 7/3/05

RE "EVERYTHING in GOD's time..... the bible talks about a day being as to God a 1000 years. "

Then the universe is less than 10,000 years old!
---Thorne on 7/2/05

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Of course it is allegorical.... the bible is not an archelogical textbook, but a theological account of man's relationship with God.

The purpose of the Genesis account is not to explain creation but how sinned has marred the human race through men and women chosing to do wrong, and how subsequently humankind can find their way back to God.

BTW, Adam and Eve are simply the gender variants on the hebrew word for "humankind". They are symbolic of us all and our need for God....
---peter on 7/2/05

To enter into God's rest is to live in the seventh day of rest (who is Christ). Hebrews 4 talks about this. This is the rest from which that river flowing out from under the throne of God and the Lamb flows.
---Linda_Smith on 7/2/05

Yes the 6-day creation story in Genesis is a factual (non-allegorical) historical account. Attempts to cast this account as representing long ages of natural development are but a veiled attempt to justify the evolotionary fraud. They days of creation were actual rotations of the earth (evenings and mornings). If they were long ages, nothing would survive the years of chilling darkness during the evenings.
---Jerry on 7/2/05

Cont'd. ....and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.' If God had created an entirely different race on the 6th day what do you think happened to them? Did they multiply, where did they go? What would have been the point of them if they never got another mention regarding their part in the scheme of things?
---Xanthi on 7/2/05

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Cont'd. We are not told when these were born and how long the gap was between any of them but for Adam and Eve to be fruitful and multiply this is the only way it could have been done. The law about not marrying close relatives was not given until much later, in Abraham's day. You state that God had already made males and females. Not so, it says male and female (singular) Adam and Eve. So God created man (meaning human beings) in his own image, male and female . Gen 1:28 And God blessed them, cont'd.
---Xanthi on 7/2/05

Dave the 8th day (as you call it) was not when God made Eden. Chapter 2 of Genesis is a re-cap of what He had already done in chapter 1. It isn't given in order of when He did things, it is simply saying that God HAD done these things. The male and female He created on the 6th day WERE Adam and Eve.
Karin Cain married one of his sisters. There was no one else he could have married. We are told that Adam and Eve had another son who was named Seth and other sons and daughters Cont'd.
---Xanthi on 7/2/05

If there were "other" people around, then why isn't it mentioned? why did God tell Adam and Eve to plenish the earth? Eve had Seth, which had a daughter, which married Cain. In Gen 1:27 it is talking about Adam and Eve. No Karin it isn't any clearer, for you need to read more in depth.
---Rebecca_D on 7/2/05

where does it say he didn't take his wife with him? what makes you think that if God could make a wife for Adem that God couldn't make one for Cain? I think that God first made Adem and Eve. why else whould God talk only of this line of Gods hard work? was God so displeased with the others that they don't ever get mentioned? I don't think so!
---laure5469 on 7/2/05

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some of you scare me. USA was founded on the bible and that it is factual. that it took God only 6 days is easy for me what is hard is that Eve didn't freak at a talking serpent. God stopped a river while Egypt came down on Iseral, they walked on dry land.why would God say 6 days then give them over 100 for birthdays? Gen 10:25 talkes of the earth {shifting} divideing. so that is how all the animals got around. it just that some were not able to live some places or man has been known to wipe out things.
---laure5469 on 7/1/05

Ann, i agree with dave,throu sin Adam/Eve(living SOULS)Gen2;7,banished from garden into outer>God had already created Males/FemalesGen1;27.Adam/Eve were unique spiritual creations of God who messed up. When u r told Adam/Eve r the 1st, who did Cain marry..(an unnamed wife,Gen4;17)then starts the geneology, icluding A/E's 3rd son i see that God had made man/woman before Adam?Eve..Seth and Cain married wives who were outside of Eden..hope this is clearer for you
---karin on 7/1/05

Excuse me, Dave...what is this you're saying? There WERE no other people before Adam & Eve.
---Ann5758 on 7/1/05

we can ask God when we are with Him.God is such a meticulous creator that 6 literal days goes with His orderly attributes..He is NOT bound by time..He SPOKE and it happened..He has not revealed everything to us about Himself, we do not need to know,just believe that He is the creator
---karin3565 on 6/30/05

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The world, people and animals were "CREATED" in six days. Then God rested on the 7th day He looked and it was good.

On the 8th day, God created the Garden Of Eden.. He seen that thee was no man to till the ground so He "FORMED" Adam from the dust of the earth. He seen that Adam had no helpmate (female) to be with him. Remember he had created both male and female on the 6th day. However they were of different races than Adam. God took a rib from Adam and made Eve.
---Dave5343 on 6/30/05

The Bible is what it is. I believe that yes, it was created in 6 of our actual days. I believe that he bestowed our idea of a day upon us and secondly he did it to show us the kind of power he has because when you think about everything being created in 6 days doesn't that put you in awe of his awesomeness? It does to me. And actually, he could have done it in 1 day if he wanted or 1 hour or 1 minute. That's why he asks us to put our faith in him. Feel free to believe whole heartedly in your King!
---angea6336 on 6/30/05

Allegorical accounts in Old Testament scripture were never intended to be interpreted as history; they were used to illustrate points and convey concepts in the same way as Christ used parables to illustrate to his listeners.
---phia4633 on 6/30/05

Additional concepts to be derived from the allegorical seven day account of creation are to teach the Hebrews that their God was unique and different from all others, in that Yahweh can BARA, create with out raw materials, The second point is to show that mankind is the steward of Yahweh's creation. Thirdly the Hebrews should observe a weekly day of rest. These are various oral traditions that have been blended in to Genesis by Priestly Editors and these were the points to be illustrated.
---phia4633 on 6/30/05

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These creation accounts are not factual history and were never intended to be interpreted as such. The important points are God did the creation and it was deliberate action. The first Chapter of John is another creation account it is not in conflict. You can still get copies of The Bible In Order by Joseph Rhymer published by Doubleday it presents scriptural accounts in order by age of the text. It is currently out of print but I have seen it available on the Internet.
---phia4633 on 6/30/05

If it was a 1000 years it would have said 1000 of years but instead it said 6 days. We are not in the seventh day, he rested on the seventh day, and yet he told us to rest on the seventh day. We can't do what God has done. He can destroy this whole world within a blink of an eye if he wanted to. He is God, what can't he do? nothing. God was finished on the seventh day, and he blessed it, so how can we still be in the seventh day creation? What you said makes no sense, according to the bible.
---Rebecca_D on 6/29/05

EVERYTHING in GOD's time..... the bible talks about a day being as to God a 1000 years. Not a literal "DAY" ... can you do all of the things that God has done in each day.... I do not think so... ALSO.... If you read the account in Genesis, where it says, "and God saw that it was good," each time after the 6 days, he never said it the 7th time, meaning that we are still in the 7th day of GOD's creation.
---Colleen on 6/29/05

Xanthi ... my faith is that God built the universe, and made it's inhabitants, and made us. I do not know how, I do not think anyone will ever know how, unless God reveals it to us when we go to be with Him.
But if God eventually tells me that He used evolution, and that an ape was our ancestor, I would not say to Him that He lied to us in the Bible.
---Alan8869_of_UK on 6/29/05

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Alan, I'm really saddened to see you write this "Nor would I feel that any of the the bible was incorrect if evolution was proved." Which aspects of evolution being proved would not disturb you or challenge your Christian beliefs? Would you find 'proof' that man's ancestor really was an ape compatible or is it just the age of the earth you'd be happy to see proved one way or the other?
---Xanthi on 6/29/05

This is where faith comes in. In Ex 20:11, 31:17 it says 6 days. It was 6 literal days. Does it matter? This world (earth) is going to disolve anyway, and it won't be remembered? So why would one worry themselves over how he done it, how long it took him?
---Rebecca_D on 6/28/05

God said HE created the heavens and the earth in 6 days. There is no mediphor so it's literally 6, 24 hour periods of time. GOD is not limited by the enormity of the project. God said morning and evening were one day. That clearly indicates a 24 hour period of time as we know it. Let's not limit HIS ability and take Him at His Word.
---Eloia_N_ks on 6/28/05

Xanthi ... 'a day is as a thousand years' coupled with 'a thousand years is as a day' could be a way of saying that God is right outside of our timescales, as indeed He is. I do not think they need be specifically accurate.
It seems there is lots of evidence that the world and universe is older than 6000 years ... and if it is, I have no problem in making that agree with every word in the Bible. Nor would I feel that any of the the bible was incorrect if evolution was proved
---Alan8869_of_UK on 6/28/05

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alan: to say that man landed on the moon is not saying that you are adding to the bible yes i believe man landed on the moon but to say that it is in the bible or scriptural would be akkding to say God didnt create the wourld in 6 days would be to take neither of which you are supposed to do.
---andre9789 on 6/28/05

Yes. God did create the world in six days and rested on the seventh day. That is why we have 7 days of the week.
When GOD speaks....things happen!!!!
It does not take God long to do things
---Larry on 6/28/05

Alan yes we believe that men landed on the moon because we saw it on T.V. not because it is mentioned in the bible. There are many facts we know because we were present to some evidence e.g. I know what I've just eaten for breakfast. If the bible did NOT say that God made everything in 6 days then, fine, believe He did it some other way (but where's your evidence to your alternative idea?), but the fact is that the bible DOES say that. Alan, I think it is you who are limiting God's power.
---Xanthi on 6/28/05

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