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If I endure all the junk down here I will make it to heaven.
---catherine on 5/17/08


How to make it to heaven?..by grace through faith. Its not through your repentance of sin but through faith in the sin bearer."Repent" means, turn to Jesus Christ. Believe on HIM who HE has sent.
---duane on 5/15/08


I was told if I ask Jesus into my life, that then I am saved and unconditionally guaranteed to go to Heaven. 1 John 4:17 says, "Love has been perfected among us in this: that we may have boldness in the day of judgment, because as He is, so are we in this world." So, now I consider that being made perfect in love is what assures me of being ready for judgment, by being "as He is...in this world", so we are compatible with our Groom so we can spend eternity with Him.
---Bill_bila5659 on 5/15/08


Emcee, in the past I have just let people insult me, but now I am calling them what they are which is that they worship the Father of Lies, Satan, which makes them Satanists. They use Slander, which makes them devils (Greek for slander is 'devil'). I won't give them the benefit of the doubt. FYI I have never been a cloak and dagger person, just honest and upfront, and that is why they do not like me.
---frances008 on 5/15/08


Frances008::Are we going to see the new Frances who comes out swinging -I mean with both Fists a flailing ?No more smoke mirrors cloak and dagger.Why the change in strategy?Honey -you catch more flies with Honey than vim and vinegar"old Japanese or Chinese proverb I forget.could even be Confusious.
---Emcee on 5/15/08




.markv, your sin is that you have dissed Christ and make excuses that this is acceptable, you bear false witness, and blapheme the sanctified of God.
---Eloy on 5/15/08


Two witnesses:
Joh 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, HATH everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation, but is passed from death unto life.
1. Truly hear Christ from a spiritual standpoint and believe in God.

1jo 3:14 We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.
2. Christian love for our brothers and sisters in Christ.
---trey on 5/14/08


There are many people who, unless they repent, will not make it to Heaven. They keep attacking and offending God's children. Jesus Christ demands that we Love God and Love our Neighbour, including our enemy. That Love for them will allow us to let them know their errors, in a loving way, not attacking them. I am saying this not because of anyone on this thread but due to my attackers. I tried being polite with them for several months but they are too hardened by demons so I'm changing my tactics.
---frances008 on 5/14/08


What are my wrongs Eloy? expressing my displeasure with your comments? or you condemnations? Your actions? Are my wrongs opposing your teachings? Then I am right, for your comments, your condemnations, and your teachings are false. "Your blaspheming of Christ will never go away Eloy, until you repent." Otherwise you will remain the same old mean spirited person who thinks he is sinless and a god. Humble before Christ, and you will know the Truth, and the Truth will set you free.
---Mark_V. on 5/14/08


.markv, But your wrongs are separating between you and your God, and your sins have hidden face from you, that he will not hear. He that is of God hears God's words: you all therefore hear not, because you all are not of God.
---Eloy on 5/13/08




Eloy, I have heard your words before and they are meaningless because they don't come from God but from your mouth. The same words you use agains't others who do not agree with your false teachings. If what you spoke was truth, it would be different. You are an enemy of the gospel of Christ with your "man centered" theology, and not God centered. The day you give God what He deserves will be the day you become my brother, for you will then know the Truth.
---Mark_V. on 5/13/08


Out of the mouth the heart speaks, and we can know from a person's words whether or not their heart is right and Christ-filled or else wrong and antiChrist-filled. For any one who speaks great swelling words against us saints of God are nothing but our enemies and not of the body. And Jesus has promised that just as he was maltreated and spoken against by the adversaries of God, so too we whom are his will be likewise maltreated and blasphemed byu the adversaries of God.
---Eloy on 5/12/08


part 1 of 2: "Blessed they that suffer persecution for righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed be you all when which maligning you, and will persecute and say all evil word against you, lying falsely, on account of me. Rejoice and raise high, that the bonus plenteous yours in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets, them before you." Matthew 5:10-12.
---Eloy on 5/12/08


pt 2: "The disciple is not above the Master, nor the servant above his Lord. Enough the disciple that he be as his Master, and the servant as his Lord. If they called the Lord of the house beelzebub, how much more them of his household? Remember the word that I said to you, The servant is not greater than his Lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you, if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also." Matthew 10:24,25+ John 15:20.
---Eloy on 5/12/08


#2. Only the elect will make it to heaven. They have been chosen already, and they will hear the word and they will be saved. In order to know if you are one of the elect, check your heart, if you have a true love for Christ and faith in His death and resurrection, you are one of the elect. If not, you are heading to hell, with a whole lot of people. Only the elect will seek after God. The lost seek the desires of their father the Devil.
---Mark_V. on 5/12/08


Mark V ... I'm sorry, I had misread what you said about Eloy.
I thought you had meant that he claimed hadn't had to be born again.
---alan_of_UK on 5/11/08


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MarkV "You also say I insist that Eloy is not born again"
Yes I did say that, but I had misread what you said
Sorry
---alan_of_UK on 5/11/08


Mark V "When someone questions you, you say they are calling you a liar"
Actually, that is not true. What I have objected to, is when someone has misrepresented or twisted that I have said. And then when that misrepresentation is repeated in spite of my protest, I tend to think it is deliberate.
In this case here I misunderstood what you said, and have been careful to apologise as soon as you have corrected me.
---alan_of_UK on 5/11/08


Rayneldi, Jesus has promised, "In my Father's home are many dwellings, if not, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you to myself, that where I am you all may be also." John 14:2,3. "And to them that look for Christ, will he appear the second time, for salvation."
---Eloy on 5/10/08


Alan, I don't think I have to answer you but I will. You seem to like to use the word "Liar". I don't think you have heard me say that word one time. The word Liar, is not a very kind thing to say to someone. There is other ways of answering without using that word. You mentioned "Liar" to about five people. When someone questions you, you say they are calling you a liar. You told me, Warrick and others. You also say I insist that Eloy is not born again. I never insist anything Alan.
---Mark_V. on 5/9/08


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#2. Alan, I also said he was born again twice. So I don't insist as you say. You like to get involve in what others say to each other, sort of sounding like you are a very kind guy keeping the peace. In the process you forget what is really important and that is the Gospel Truth. Eloy is so far from the Truth that he doesn't recognize it. He is not a liar but someone who got lost. Little truth is found in what he say anymore and his language to others is proof he is not a brother to any of us.
---Mark_V. on 5/9/08


#3. Alan: Eloy is a mean spirited person, who is mean to anyone who disagrees with him, or who hurts him. Who maybe once had a plan and someone distroyed it. Who does not show one bit of good fruit and who teaches another gospel. A self proclaim prophet as mentioned in Matthew 7:15-20. Someone dangerous to the faith. Now is he a Liar? I don't think so. Alan, if you believe that been his friend and supporting and speaking for him is important for you,
---Mark_V. on 5/9/08


#4. Alan: then go ahead and support him, I don't support anyone who speaks agains't the Gospel. I am a warrior for Christ and the faith. I have given my oath to the Lord to bring the truth to anyone who will hear. My life belongs to Christ. I will not speak agains't His Word, the Bible or His Truth. You can do what you desire.
---Mark_V. on 5/9/08


If you're saved by Jesus' blood, you are assured of going to heaven. You must have faith. You must believe and just know it. I think most God fearing people ask this question during their lives.
---jody on 5/8/08


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.merkv, Since I am a born-again Christian, I am not able to receive your falsehood, but if you repent then I would be able to hear you. John 10:4,5.
---Eloy on 5/8/08


mark V ... If you insist that Eloy does not ave to be born again, you are calling him a liar.
He has on many occasions told us that he has been born again

I disagree with Eloy on many issues,and sometimes with what he says to people & how he says it, but I don't think he has yet called them a liar.

Is it rightfor you to say that of him?
---alan_of_UK on 5/7/08


.markv, you speak falsehood and you will believe and say whatever you desire.
---Eloy on 5/7/08


There is only one way to be saved, by grace through faith. Old Testament believers were saved the same way, Grace through faith in the coming Christ. New Testament believers are saved the same way, by grace through faith in the works of Christ and His resurrection. It is always by Grace. The Old Testament believers followed God because they had faith. Those were the righteous. Eloy, you are teaching another religion.
---Mark_V. on 5/7/08


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#2. Eloy, the reason you can be so mean to others and call them what you want, is because you are one of those who doesn't have to be born again. One of the "born righteous by nature" and you feel that since you are righteous you have the right to tell everyone they are wrong. But you are wrong and so far off from Scripture that you have started your own religion. One that has three kinds of people. I cannot say read your bible because you have, but you have made it what you wanted.
---Mark_V. on 5/7/08


I have always agreed with Eloy on this point he makes. The Scriptures he cited validate his say.
---Nana on 5/7/08


AlanOfUk and Nicole, A-men, you both understand. Many take verses out of context to condemn all people, but God knows there are bad AND GOOD people, both before the cross and after the cross. Christ looks upon the heart and holds each separate soul accountable for their very own actions and words. Many good-hearted souls have died without hearing the gospel of Jesus Christ, and God has a place for them in his kingdom right along with those of us whom have heard and obeyed the gospel.
---Eloy on 5/6/08


AlanOfUk and Nicole, A-men, you both understand. Many take verses out of context to condemn all people, but God knows there are bad AND GOOD people, both before the cross and after the cross. Christ looks upon the heart and holds each separate soul accountable for their very own actions and words. Many good-hearted souls have died without hearing the gospel of Jesus Christ, and God has a place for them in his kingdom right along with those of us whom have heard and obeyed the gospel.
---Eloy on 5/6/08


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Millions of souls followed God before Jesus was born in bethlehem, he came to seek and to save that which was lost, not to seek and to save that which was not lost. PLEASE READ- EZEKIEL 18, THE WHOLE CHAPTER PLEASE, and you will see the 2 kinds of people that were alive before Christ was born, and you will still find these 2 separate kinds of people today, those whom obey and those whom do not.
---Eloy on 5/6/08


It is my hope and prayer that all of you will go to heaven. I am sure you will. God is more merciful than we think. Romans 11:32.
---SueQ7373 on 5/6/08


Nicole ::Are the "righteous by nature" Boastful condemning.and claim to be like God, be chosen on those attributes or like the Samaratin who stood afar off and exclimed "Lord Have mercy on me for I am a sinner"
---Emcee on 5/6/08


All descentants of Adam and Eve are fallen. There is no one righteous. The only person not fallen was Christ. "What is man, that he can be clean? Or he that is born of a woman, that he can be righteous?" Job 15:14-15. "Therefore as sin came into the world through one man and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all men sinned." Romans 5:12. "Who can say, I have made my heart clean, I am pure from my sin?" Proverbs 20:9.
---Mark_V. on 5/6/08


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Thank's Frances008, all man are depraved. Not a one is is righteous. If it was as Nicole said, Christ would not have had to be sacrifice since God loves everyone and is going to save you anyway. Why have missionaries? Why witness to anyone? Why tell them about Christ and His death? No need for any of that. There was a purpose for the death of Christ, for the redemption of those who put their faith in Him. What happens to the others? They are judge for what they have done. The redeemed are not condemned.
---Mark_V. on 5/6/08


AlanofUk, man is by nature depraved. Some people manage to overcome this nature. Usually they are not the ones who boast about being sinless. God is a just God and would not treat everyone in the same manner just because they were born human and sinful. I hope this helps. Remember Sodom and Gomorrah, remember Abraham pleading on behalf of the people.
---frances008 on 5/5/08


Alan of Uk continued.....
God would not slay the 'righteous' together with those who wilfully ignore his commands. God could not find ten righteous people so he told them to get out because he would destroy the cities.

As Christians we should be interceding for the loved ones we know who are being led astray by New Age doctrines etc.
---frances008 on 5/5/08


Eloy is correct. The Rightous by nature do go to heaven. These rightous people are ones who if they heard the Words of Christ they would have accepted Jesus. Jesus knows His sheep. How can a Just God condemn anyone who has not known Him. God knows the heart. HE IS JUST AND MERCIFUL!
Luke 14:15-24...The Master then ordered the servant, 'Go out to the highways and hedgerows and MAKE PEOPLE come in that my home may be filled. For, I tell you, none of those men who were invited will taste my dinner.'"
---Nicole on 5/5/08


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Eloy ... I will have to repost my 2, which was to the effect that there are many here who say that man by nature is evil sinful and depraved.

This can't agree with your statement that "the righteous by nature who never heard the gospel will go to heaven"

Nor can it agree with the Bible passage which indicates that people who have not heard will be judged in accordance with what they have heard.
---alan_of_UK on 5/5/08


Eloy ... #3 And indeed it is strnge to me, the reaction some people have had to your statement.
You have been accused of spewing out hate.
But to my mind, yuor statement ""the righteous by nature who never heard the gospel go to heaven" is far from one of hate, but is one of love, since it reveals our loving and understanding God.
---alan_of_UK on 5/5/08


The only way to know for sure you get to live in Heaven is to accept JESUS CHRIST as your saviour and LORD. This is done by the HOLY SPIRIT. It is a change from being lost to found. It is being Born Again.
---Samuel on 5/5/08


mzrkv and emcee, you will believe and say whatever you desire.
---Eloy on 5/5/08


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Eloy ... Yo must have misunderstood my post. I was asking you for help, not challenging you in any way.
You said ""the righteous by nature who never heard the gospel will go to heaven" which indicates that some non-Christians will go to heaven.
I don't recall you saying that before, but I do happen to think the same and beleive there is a scripture that says people will be judged according to what they have heard, which would support the view.
Yet many here would deny it.
---alan_of_UK on 5/5/08


Your "sadly" mistaken if you think you can come to the Lord, Wash your sins away W/His blood, then CONtinue to "Live in SIN",
And still make it to Heaven.
Good Luck,
You better REread your Bible.(the whole thing).

If Sin abides(Lives) in you, My Father Doesnt/Can't.
If Sin abides in you, your are in Darkness still.
If Sin Still abides in you, You've Never Known Him.
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 5/5/08


Eloy::It is a known Fact that those who follow a false truth eventually believe in it so your calling me non christian is in your heart so you think I'm evil.But by Romans 3,23 so are you and your quote below puts you in the same category.Jesus said love one another .WHY do you spew HATE?REPENT.You may get livid but follow the sign of Truth.
---Emcee on 5/5/08


I know Eloy, you are a born again Christian two times and I guess that counts, but how much does it count? Words you say are only words. If you can deny those passages I gave you, "with your righeous by nature" speech, I would be glad to hear it. Only the righteousness of Christ counts for anything. And it comes only by faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. Self-righteous, does not count for beans. You see, the Word of God does not contradict.
---Mark_V. on 5/5/08


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.emcee, nonChristian one, I have already posted holy scriptures below, please do yourself a favor and Read them.
---Eloy on 5/5/08


.markv, Since I am a born-again Christian, I am not able to receive your falsehood, but if you repent then I would be able to hear you. John 10:4,5.
---Eloy on 5/5/08


.markv, "Woe to them that call evil good, and good evil, that put darkness for light, and light for darkness, that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter. To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, because they have no light in them."
---Eloy on 5/5/08


There is only the righteous and the unrigheous. There is no three kinds of people. "Enter not into judgment with thy servant, for no man living is righteous before thee" Psalm 143:2. "Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins" Ecclesiastes 7:20. "We have all become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous deeds are like a polluted garment..." Isaiah 64:6
---Mark_V. on 5/4/08


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#2. Anyone teaching that there is righeous people without Christ is teaching a false doctrine. Only the imputation of the righeousness of Christ is worth anything. Any other rigtheousness is self-righteous. Anything without faith in Christ, is sin.
---Mark_V. on 5/4/08


AlanofUk, God judges by righteous judgement. There is only one thing anyone will say after God has come to his conclusions about the fate of their soul and that will be 'That seems fair!' It is not really our business how God will judge those who never hear the Word of God, who were babies, brainwashed, born subnormal, etc.etc. God knows all things.
---frances008 on 5/3/08


I had a close relative who died, and that day had the spiritual experience of God telling me he had gone to Heaven. Does the Holy Spirit lie to me, No. I do not think so. Why would a lying spirit tell me something comforting? What point would there be? All the external evidence pointed to him not being saved. But God sees the things we do not see.
---frances008 on 5/3/08


Eloy"who are the RIGHTEOUS BY Nature". In the face of Romans3:23?The answer is contained in"Those who keep my Fathers commandments?Follow ME and "Be perfect as your heavenly Father is Perfect"but here on CN they say if you believe in his Name?what is that, everyone knows his Name.But do they do the will of My Father?all claim belief in the word His bible But yet refute Mat16:17-19.Go figure!DO WE CHANGE or do you expect God to change.
---Emcee on 5/3/08


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Eloy"who are the RIGHTEOUS BY Nature". In the face of Romans3:23?The answer is contained in"Those who keep my Fathers commandments?Follow ME and "Be perfect as your heavenly Father is Perfect"but here on CN they say if you believe in his Name?what is that, everyone knows his Name.But do they do the will of My Father?all claim belief in the word His bible But yet refute Mat16:17-19.Go figure!DO WE CHANGE or do you expect God to change.
---Emcee on 5/3/08


.alan, I expounded this truth many times to you before, but for some reason you are not receiving this truth. Either you have been deluded by the conventional false doctrines polluting the churches today, or else you have not yet been consecrated to Christ. Please Read- Luke 5:32+ Romans 2:14,15,26-29+ I John 3:7.
---Eloy on 5/3/08


Alan ,I will give eloy some latitude on that one.
In our world history of religions the 'Golden Rule' was spoken by many spiritual teacher/prophets including a well recognized American Indian .The tribes of men and women he may have taught it to may have failed to understand his teaching and do it but he knew the truth and spoke it.
There is one spiritual teacher's message and related book that I am supprised that the Golden Rule is not found in -The Koran.
---earl on 5/2/08


Eloy ... you say that "the righteous by nature who never heard the gospel"will go to heaven.
And I beleive there is a sripture which says we will be judged according to what we have heard, and that would tie in with what you say.
But conventional doctrine, often expressed here, is that humanity is by its very nature depraved and evil, so none are be righteous by nature.
That doctrine worries me, and it does not seem to fit in with your statement, with which i agree.
Can you help?
---alan_of_UK on 5/2/08


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There are only two kinds of people in this world.>>The saved and the lost.
---catherine on 5/2/08


No human goes to heaven or the lake of fire until after the resurection of the dead and judgement. Go read you Bibles again and actually study them for a change. And only the Elect that God chose before the creation of the world are going to heaven any way!!!
---notlaw99 on 5/2/08


Obey all that Christ Commands. Three kinds of people go to heaven: the righteous by nature who never heard the gospel, the born-again Christian, and the backslider who repented or returned to the Lord.
---Eloy on 5/2/08


Mimi - "Romans 10:13, John 2:21,and Joel 2:32 the Bible says," whosoever shall call on the name of Lord shall be saved." So if you hear me ask, "Lord Jesus please come into my life and save my soul" you know I am saved. How do you know? John 6:37,"and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out."

Agreed.
I might add that there is also confidence found in the process of "working out our salvation with fear and trembling" (Phil 2:12).
---AG on 5/1/08


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Jesus loves me and I love Jesus. So I know.
---SusieQ on 4/29/08


A faith resulting in joyful obedience to the God of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob through His promised Messiah according to His Word is the only way to possess confidence in one's eternal destiny.
---AG on 4/29/08


Mima is correct in every way. We are litterally SAVED THROUGH BY GRACE THROUGH FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST. If you believe in JESUS then you will go to heaven. We overcome by the BLOOD of the LAMB and the WORD OF OUR TESTIMONY. Never question salvation by what you see in the process of being MADE LIKE HIM because there may be grevious mistakes for you to make in this process but it does not change your salvation status while you are seeking after Him. HE OVERCAME THE WORLD.
---jody on 4/29/08


We can answer this question from the Bible. In Romans 10:13, John 2:21,and Joel 2:32 the Bible says," whosoever shall call on the name of Lord shall be saved." So if you hear me ask, "Lord Jesus please come into my life and save my soul" you know I am saved. How do you know? John 6:37,"and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out." Let's believe the Bible!!!
---Mima on 4/29/08


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Brandee, I am sure you meant to add that one has to be truly sorry for one's sins. Christ death provided reparation for all the sins of humanity but cannot be expected to be an automatic cleansing agent for the unrepentant. Do you agree ?
---con on 4/29/08


When you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior into your life...believe that through the shedding of His blood on the cross cleansed you and giving you a new life. A life that is eternal!
---mi on 9/6/07


believe (Heb.11:6)confess belief (Matt. 10:32-33)repent of sins (Luke 13:3; Acts17:30-31)
be immersed, baptized (Acts 2:38;Roms. 6:3-4; 1 Pet. 3:21) faithful, grow in knowledge (Rev.2:10; 1 Pet. 2:1-4)
---Eddie on 3/18/07


Linda smith...you are very correct...We are complete as we are set free from sin, as we are made perfect forever.
---duane on 3/17/07


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Can someone please give me one scripture reference with the term "go(ing) to Heaven"?
---John on 3/17/07


When you accept Christ into your life an believe that the blood he shed when he died on the cross cleanses you of all sin and forgives them. You become a new person in christ. his love for us gives us eternal life in christ, and if you do not know for sure,,please talk to a man of god and tell him you are having questions about your being born again,,good luck an God bless you
---Brandee1817 on 3/17/07


You hit the nail on the head when you said Jesus is sinless..and he that is joined to the Lord is ONE SPIRIT with Him...and we are to walk in the spirit and live in the spirit. I know in whom I have believed and He is able to keep me from falling and to present me faultless before the throne of His glory with exceeding joy.
---Linda_Smith on 9/25/05


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