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My Church Is Like A Club

My church has the attitude of a club. I don't get it? If you attend and help out, they love you to pieces, the minute you say, "No" or leave, you're going to hell. Do you all know of churches like this?

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 ---Cy on 7/4/05
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I do not, cause I do not go. Flee from this church is what God is saying,
---catherine on 2/13/08


Way too many are like this. No unity,no love,no concern or support but yet they want us to empty our pocketbooks into the offering plate(s). Thus making the preacher and his wife richer while the parishioners perish from lack of food,clothing and other necessities,sometimes. They are the only ones being blessed. I don't understand this mentality.
---Robyn on 2/13/08


It is funny how some churches act. We are saved by grace through the blood of Christ. Freed from the law of sin and death, yet there are those would would put one back under the law. The law was given to Israel to show where they were failing. Christ took the law and nailed it to his cross. If your church attempts to put you back under what Christ freed you from, then it is time to leave and find a new place.
---geraa7578 on 2/12/08


Larry, you make me laugh. I have only ever used one name, and the reason I use Prodigal is because I was one, and I love prodigals. He hides those that need much teaching, He refines us, and boy oh boy, do we sure test those who think they know Him more than others!
---Prodigal24 on 6/14/07


I am learning a great thing here: that no matter how much 'knowledge' we think we have, character is our evidence of knowing Him. I believe I have much need of more of His character; for that is what those lost are drawn to, Him in us. Knowledge is not for puffing oneself up: its for discernment, wisdom, direction ... we are allowed to be passionate and joyful: His love does that to people.
---Prodigal24 on 6/14/07




Prodigal24, I see you now::::, for months you told us about your "gift".
The great reveal. You've unveiled yourself as Kathr the prophet.
How do I know, before "Robyn" could finish her last breath, you quickly responded to her in sequence, all at the same time. This is exactly what you do as TS Chipper Kathr and Jerry. But you've explained, it has to do with bipolar disorder. I see why everything has been strange in OZ for a long time. You don't believe in meds, though.
---Larry on 6/13/07


Prodigal24, here's the thing.
The blogs don't roll over that quickly.
When one of your names asks a question and your respond directly thereafter, or compliment yourself, before the blogs have had time to post, it's obvious.
Anyone who's been here knows that no matter how many names you use, they line up, one right after another. So when you see the same pattern of names, in sequence, we can see that.
---Larry on 6/13/07


When you defend all of your names with compliments, "This means you're really a Christian"; then sling your arrows at others, that prophetic gift is in question.
Also, when one of your new names is so comfortable with everyone and immediately throws rocks, that's not normal.
---Larry on 6/13/07


Robyn: 'God will protect His temple...whoa betide those who try and destoy it...'
Now dont you worry, He needs you, He will teach and train you by the Holy Spirit. You are chosen by Him before you were born psalm 139, Trust Him to lead you into His understanding. In quietness and confidence He is within you, He will be your strength. 'Learn His Word For It Shall Be Your Sword'
---Prodigal24 on 6/12/07


It is going to get worse. You will not have the privilege of attending any church you want in the future. There will be many dues and monies to pay and will not be able to serve anywhere without having a certain income and influence. I hope I am wrong on this. Many will fall away because of being wounded, hurt and just plain turned off by the antics of the pastors and other church officials.
---Robyn on 6/12/07




the Keys of the Kingdom re 'Shattering the Strongholds' will change your life and help you cope with the church bullies -- and all other people around you.
Take heart brethren - Christ is your defender - tell Him, pray for those who persecute you -- its so easy for Satan to get us 'offended' 'pride' 'ego' 'its not fair' 'division' 'defensiveness' 'justifying' 'bitterness' etc - keep mindful of Christ in all things,
---Prodigal24 on 6/11/07


there is an absolute joy and peace in that, pursue to become secure in Him - no one will bully you, for a freedom comes in His love, in His security, and if others can't cope with that, its their problem. In all things, pursue love, for that is the character Christ loves in us toward others.
---Prodigal24 on 6/11/07


I will agree with you that there are churches who acts in a manner that appears to be very 'selective' in their behaviour. However, do not be 'put off' by such behaviour, nor be 'emotionally bullied' If you are feeling uncomfortable with your church the simply thing is to 'move on'and find another venue of worship. God loves us regardless of everything, not just by the venue we attend.
---Marie on 6/10/07


I also enjoy being helped, I too get frustrated when everything falls on me and I don't get help and have to do it all, I feel sad when people go out of my life and don't get to see them any more {see growth closness to God} and have them in my life. were they overloading you with stuff to do? or asking you to start helping out some.I think every church has what you talk about, but you have to put your foot down some time or will jump from church to church forever.no one is perfect!
---Laure5469 on 7/15/05


yes Eloy, no one likes to see someone go. I remember a couple I saw go, kind of left very unhappy because some of the brothers and sisters didn't even feel happy for them. They were a small church to start with and I guess when a church is small they hate to lose anyone. I think it becomes a family when the church is small. At my other church they put the people in the front and everyone prays for them. That is awesome.
---lupe2618 on 7/14/05


Who likes "good bys"? They may be insecure and unhappy that you're not joining in, or hurt that you're leaving them. And they may even feel that you think they're not good enough for you. Reassure them that you do care and love them, but that you also have other things equally important to do.
---Eloy on 7/14/05


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I think its ok to do things but not let it be the norm. God should be the purpose we are there. To give thanks for what He is doing in our lives and to learn what He wants us to learn. I you notice, people don't take notes to see if what is been preach is true or not. How will they know they are hearing the truth? Yes I believe the church has changed and it is continuing as it grows more in people.
---lupe2618 on 7/13/05


Most churches are like that. No matter where you go. They are like clubs and if you don't like something many will get mad. If you go to another church because you feel God moving to another place the people at the church will hate you and not talk to you because they feel pride. Instead of blessing you and sending you away with God's blessings they won't speak to you.It is about man and not about God. Less of the Word and more of fun picnics, plays and a lot of music.
---lupe2618 on 7/13/05


Yes, many churches today are like this, at least the ones in texas I have attended. Maybe they do not relize this is going on, but truly this "attitude" is not what Jesus preferred. That is why I stay with the congregation I am with, they do not "make" you do anything.
---candice on 7/4/05


Cy,

First I extend my sympathies to you, but God pities you more than I.

2nd I have to point something out. They sin, and that's not for you to answer for. You can easily make it your downfall by becoming bitter over this.

Staring you in the face is the challenge of the Christian life; to continue to love others even when they have removed you from their grace. Pray for them kindly, as this not only sicks God on them, it changes you to recieve them when their licking their wounds.
---Pharisee on 7/4/05


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I try not to judge others, but I have felt like a luke warm Christian myself.
---cory on 7/4/05


The church I left does the same thing and has a club like atmosphere. Told by the pastor not to talk to anyone if they leave the church. Many people including me, have been hurt there, when I meet members they snub me or get out of the way not to speak to me, to the extent of going on the other side of the street to avoid me. Other x members have had this happen to them too. It's a shame isn't it? I thought we were all brothers and sisters in Christ? Since when does it matter where you go to church?
---anon on 7/4/05


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