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Should America Control Pollutants

George Bush has recently said he will not consider any agreement similar to the Kyoto protocol. With overwhelming evidence that our climate change is almost out of control, and is caused by pollutants from industrialised, do you think he is right to refuse to control America's emissions?

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Background information: I like George Bush, think he's a Christian, but he is allowing either money or politics to get in the way of making the correct decision in this case. American should be the leader in emission control, as far as I'm concerned. He has not presented a valid case for not controlling emissions
---WIVV on 12/4/05


Martha ... does God then want us to accelerate the process?
---Alan8869_of_UK on 7/11/05


i know bush is wrong do you know how many peaple die and are sick in canada from u s smock the u s only stinks about them self .in canda we have done alat to controle air polutansand we still prosper
---catha5499 on 7/11/05


Martha, your philosophy is a little like stepping in front of a bus and saying if God wants me to live I will because he is in control. It is tempting God. We are called to be good stewards of the earth. As Gandhi said, God has provided enough for everymans need but not everymans greed. Avarice is the cause of a lot of devastation on the earth. Look how Christ feels about the greedy in Luke 16:14. Also look at 1 Timothy 6:10.
---randy on 7/11/05


Hasn't it accured to anyone that maybe the earth is changing back to what it was once was known as paradise?
world as we know it today will pass way. We are to look for a new heaven and a new earth where there will be no sun to light it but the light of God. Pain and suffering will no longer exist. Where we will have our new glorified bodies.
Why even worry about what happens here. God won't let anything happen to his children who trust in His care. He's in control!
---Martha on 7/11/05




"Cold candle light dinners for everyone"
Not everyone, Elder ... some have nothing to eat.
Sorry that is off the subject, more about the G8 summit
---Alan8869_of_UK on 7/11/05


The Clinton administration sued because 9 States completed work without the EPA approval which they did not need in the first place.
The work done was common throughout the industry and it enabled plants to produce more power and extended the life expectancy of plants built in the 50s and 60s by 15 to 20 years or more.
Cond #2-->
---Elder on 7/9/05


Cond #2-->
Mike Miller said that such projects did not necessarily translate into increased emissions.
Judge Sargus ruled for the Government in Ohio and is about to be overturned on appeal.
A similar case in Virginia, my home State, has given victory to the utility.
What the Bush Administration rewrote was the lame regulations the EPA used to sue the Companies.
Cond #3--->
---Elder on 7/9/05


Cond #3--->
If the Companies had not made modifications there would not have been any Torts.
In a few years the plants would not be able to produce anything, would really be unsafe and would be shut down.
Cold candle light dinners for everyone.
---Elder on 7/9/05


Even Kyoto was pitifully weak. It would have done little, except give politicians an excuse to feel good about themselves. Even in Europe, with some of the toughest regulation on earth, emissions continue to rise even now. I suspect nobody will do anything effective about pollution until they think they have something to gain by doing so. That includes governments as well as corporations.
---Billy on 7/9/05




"The Clinton administration brought 51 lawsuits against nine mainly Midwestern and Southern corporations, including several of the largest energy producers in the country: Southern Company; Cinergy; Virginia Electric Power Company American Electric Power; and the governments own Tennessee Valley Authority."

This is work that Bush is undoing by loosening the regulations in the Clean Air Act.
---Madison on 7/8/05


Gensis7: 2
Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female.
3 Of fowls also of the air by sevens, the male and the female; to keep seed alive upon the face of all the earth.
Every is an all-inclusive word.
Elder I have no gripe with you. I find your responses interesting though I rarely agree with them. Bless you and your SUV.
---randy on 7/8/05


Elder yuo say: Yea, you're right, this smokestack stuff didn't start until Bush became President. Wonder if Clinton worried about smokestacks? Maybe he just had the attitude of "Let George do it."

Actually yes Clinton worried about it ... remember Kyoto? He was there, and worried.
---Alan8869_of_UK on 7/8/05


Elder, what do you mean when you say that Bush's successor will rule only for three & a half years?
---Alan8869_of_UK on 7/8/05


Gensis7: 2
Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female.
3Of fowls also of the air by sevens, the male and the female; to keep seed alive upon the face of all the earth.
Every is an all-inclusive word.
Elder I have no gripe with you. I find your responses interesting though I rarely agree with them. Bless you and your SUV.
---randy on 7/8/05


Yea, you're right, this smokestack stuff didn't start until Bush became President.
Wonder if Clinton worried about smokestacks? Maybe he just had the attitude of "Let George do it."
---Elder on 7/8/05


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Randy I didn't even respond to the "question" asked so what is your gripe with me this time?
You are so wise show me where Noah saved every creature on earth please. You must have a big Bible.
Don't worry Bush will be gone out and then that guy the liberals are waiting on will be here soon. But, he will only rule 3 1/2 years.
---Elder on 7/7/05


Making the corporations abide by the Clean Air Act is not going to destroy corporate America. It is just going to cut in their profit margins. Bush just is afraid to upset his corporate buddies by making them responsible for not killing people with the poisons their smokestacks spew out.
---Madison on 7/6/05


Bethie ... who is Bush-bashing?
The majority of responses think he is right in his stance, the others think he is wrong, but that does not mean they are bashing him.
---Alan8869_of_UK on 7/6/05


Berthie and Elder, arent we supposed to be good stewards of the earth? How is not worrying about clean air and driving a gas-hog glorifying god? If you believe the Bible literally, Noah saved every creature on the earth. If god thought enough to save every creature shouldnt we also be careful to save every creature and care for those on this earth? If we are so worried about jobs in the US why do we import so many cheap goods from China?
---randy on 7/6/05


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people can we not find anything better to do than Bush bash? If he is to put orders on to control emissions, soon that wouldn't be enough, environmentalist will not be happy until every factory is shut down. Then what about the thousands of people out of work what then? We need to worry more peoples souls than what they are breathing.
---bethie on 7/6/05


The man is President George Bush-. He does the will of the people in not kissing up to the one world government folks who want to tell everyone what to do while doing nothing. Socialism is a failed experiment in many countries. The government owns and divides the profits and jobs. The US is ready to produce goods and services that people want and will pay for. You do not do that with your feet on a desk thinking and dividing what is not yours.
---chuck on 7/6/05


America has been changing laws and making industry take responsibility for pollution for years.Such as ,better controls to lower the emmissions of pollutants from smokestacks and cars,also cleaning up the water which goes back into our waterways.There is just so much Industry can do without costing so much it puts them out of business.If American Big Business goes broke,so does America.It will hurt all of USA ,and then America can't help itself, let alone the rest of the World.
---Darlene_1 on 7/6/05


America is ruled by the almighty dollar which turns people blind to any other argument . The temporary leader of the American blind is called George Bush. Yet the man is supposed to be a christian. Soon there will not be an environment for anybody to live in including G.B. Let's thank the Lord for "christian" leaders......
---con on 7/6/05


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Where is your overwhelming evidence that there is climate change. Each month we have new high and low temperatures and the science you proclaim is suspect. Rather than expecting your government or mine to protect you start at home. #1 Walk -do not drive.#2 do not heat or cool with energy your room or work place#4Remove all plastic from your home and workplace. #5Remove and do do wear any clothes made of synthetics. When you have accomplished this, you are eligible to tell our society to follow.
---chuck on 7/6/05


His stand is typical for the Republican party, which favors the profit margins of the corporations over the needs of the puny little people of the world.
---Madison on 7/6/05


Well, I think everyone should be free.
If those Pollutants, who ever they are, from Industrialized, want to practice their religion then let'em do it.
I don't think we hav'ta put up with their Emissions cause we got Missionaries of our own.
I say put 'em back in their Kyoto Protocol and let'em drive outta here.
I'll keep my Toyota Land Cruiser.
---Elder on 7/5/05


No, I dont think it's right. I beleive the government should be responsible for helping keep the air clean by keeping big corporations in check.
---sue on 7/5/05


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