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Are Instruments In Church Evil

My friend's religion does not believe in having musical instruments in the church. I can't find anything in the bible that says it's wrong. Music and instrumental accompaniment is a big part of our church's worship, and I'm always inspired by it.

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The answer to this question is really straightforward and it comes from the Bible:

Psalm 150:3-4 "Praise Him with the TRUMPET sound, praise Him with the LUTE and HARP! Praise Him with TAMBOURINE and dance, praise Him with STRINGED INSTRUMENTS or FLUTES! Praise Him with resounding CYMBALS, praise Him with clashing cymbals!"

I think this Bible speaks for itself! God bless!
---ooeygooey on 6/21/09


Alicia, I believe music is introduce to the Church by pastors to move or inspire the people's emotions, and while in this emotional weak condition, bring them to Christ. Many churches make the music a big part of their service time. In time people like the music more then just hearing the Word of God. If no music is heard they feel the church is dead.
I came from a musical church, we had ten that played instruments, and classes for others to learn the instruments in case one was missing. The music was wonderful, I loved it, but I think it took much of the time away from the Word of God. And since faith comes from hearing, hearing the word of God, I believe that part is been lost at the expense of keeping the people happy with the music.
---MarkV. on 4/7/09


In my Messianic synagogue, most of our songs come directly from the scriptures - both old and new. We use instruments of all sorts as well as dance unto the L-rd. G-d always sent out the worshipers before he sent the army. Check out the Tabenacle of David and we read again in Amos where it tells us that G-d will again raise up the Tabernacle of David worship and that is being done today. The Psalms tell us to prised Him with all sorts of instruments and with dancing. Get a cd by Marty Goetz, or Paul Wilbur or Steve McConnel or Jonathan Settel and you will see the beautiful scriptural music that comes forth.
---gophylann on 4/6/09


ALICIA .... I comment in italics on your remarks:

"But I don't make the rules, Agree you should not, so why do you?

"I didn't create the church, I didn't come up with how its supposed to function, its purpose" So why are you now trying to say how it should function?

"God isn't interested in our opinion of how HIS church should run" Not even in your opinion

"So if anybody has a problem with what God has told us to do or not to do according to His Word" But there is problem if you create rules
---alan8566_of_UK on 4/6/09


I may have mentioned this before, may be not. But I don't make the rules, Alan. I didn't create the church, I didn't come up with how its supposed to function, its purpose, etc. The best thing I can tell you is to study. Study God's Word, look up the meaning of words (Hebrew or Greek), and study early church history. God isn't interested in our opinion of how HIS church should run. So if anybody has a problem with what God has told us to do or not to do according to His Word (I'm speaking about any issue, not just this musical instrument thing), than that is an issue between that person and God.
---ALICIA on 4/5/09




Alicis ... I am sorry yuo find it so difficult to follow.

"If the apostles who established churches didn't originally do it, who gave the authority?" So you will not allow musical instruments for worship.

Neither did the apostles originally have waterproof buildings for indoor worship, nor sunglasses for protection of our eyes in outdoor worship, nor hearing aids either inside or outside.

So they are "unbiblical" and by your rules they should not be used.
---alan8566_of_UK on 4/5/09


Ok, maybe its just me, but I'm having a hard time understanding the relevance you are making between musical instruments and sunglasses in the summer lol...can you explain your reasoning because it's just flying over my head lol
---ALICIA on 4/3/09


Alicia ... I have made exactly the same point on the blog about wearing pants to church.

However the question here is about the use of muciacl instrumens in the church which does imply in the place which is used for gathering to worship.

But if you are talking about meeting outside, where in the Bible does it talk about waterproof coats, sunhats and sunglasses in the summer, and fleeces fur hats and gloves & scarves for the winter? Presumably those, to you, are as evil as the musical instruments?
---alan8566_of_UK on 4/3/09


Alan, if you look up the word "church" in its Greek form (because the NT was written in Greek) it means a group of believers who believe the same thing. It's not the building but the people inside the building. A church can very well worship God outside of four walls. So when it comes to waterproof roofs, microphones, etc that is about the building, not the church. It is important that we do not add or take away from God's Word. In worshipping Him, we have to ask if what we are doing is changing His Word, whether by addition or subtraction.
---ALICIA on 4/3/09


For once I agree Steveng who says "with most christian music today is really self-centered, gloriying the self."

I think that is partly because so many of the songs are written to "sell". Those who compose the lyrics are seldom seasoned Christians with a good knowledge of the Word. Before recorded music became so widely available, the old hymn writers wrote mainly because they felt the Holy Spirit compelled them.

It's enlightening to look over a traditionl Hymnal. The lyrics maybe be expressed in the first person, but the testimony is of the greatness of God.

Some of these are now being put to more modern melodies, so hopefully their messages will not be lost.
---Donna66 on 4/3/09




Please remember what he said in Amos Chapter 5 verse 23 Away with the noise of your songs!I will not listen to the music of your harps.And Amos Chapter 6 verse 5 Woe who You strum away on your harps like David and improvise on musical instruments.
---lebron on 4/2/09


Trust me, I don't want to restrict anybodys joy! But its not about what I want or what anybody wants. Its about God wants...so why is the musical instruments issue so hot anyway? No one has ALL the answers. God is not the "author of confusion" so may be the best thing we can all do is just pray and ask God to reveal what He wants us to know. Its a possibility we may not know until we get there one day :-)
---alicia on 3/25/09


God never said not to have musical instruments in church.
---bettyw on 3/23/09


Alicia ... "If the apostles who established churches didn't originally do it, who gave the authority?"

Who says they did not?
What else did thay not have that you now have in your church assemblies ... a waterproofroof, heating, air-conditioning, microphones, cars for travel to get there?

You sound a bit hypocritical in wanting to restrict the ways in which we celebrate our joy.
---alan8566_of_UK on 3/23/09


There is no doubt that instruments were used in worshiping God in the Old Testament. But the Church wasn't established until the New Testament (AD 30) and the NT (specifically Paul) talks about how the Church should function, its purpose, what it should be called, etc. So the actual question is is it ok to use instruments when we come together as a church (which is a group of people that believe the same thing)? If you look at history, musical instruments weren't introduced into corporate worship until the ninth century. If the apostles who established churches didn't originally do it, who gave the authority? The Bible is simple in its context. Lets keep it that way. God is not the author of confusion.
---alicia on 3/22/09


People have the misconception that individuals who dont have insturments in church think insturments are evil but most of those individuals belive there is a time and a place for them and worship isnt the place.
Everyone keeps quoting Psalms 150 but the OT offers the prophecy of Christ and gives examples and prepares us for the NT. Do you still go eye for an eye, offer animal sacrifices or does God speak to you from the heavens like the OT? The NT is the guidance for our life (not saying the OT is not important). The NT says in Ephesians 4 to praise him with songs and hymns and also throughout the NT there was no use of instruments in the temple. Are you distracted by insturments in worship if you think you cant praise w/o them?
---BLC on 7/8/08


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A little education istead. If the words to a song has the words God and or Jesus and your heart is right with God and God's holy spirit is upon you, then God will be glorified: cannot help but to be. Don't make God out to be a weak, pitiful, who doesn't know beans from beans, Personal Being. "For I am the Lord thy God", "I will come down upon my people and show them my glory". No problem for the Lord thy God.>>>Him strong.
---catherine on 5/18/08


Steveng ... you say "Catholics, Lutherans, Baptists, Methodists"
No these are not religions.
They are part of the Christian church
---alan_of_UK on 5/18/08


I'm not against music, but most christian music today is really self-centered, gloriying the self. Listen to the words and they talk about the person, me, I, etc. Some even enter the macabre (watch TBN on Friday or Saturday nights). Today's christian music rarely glorifies God. And it rarely is sung with love.
---Steveng on 5/16/08


Instruments can be played to the glory of God, or they can be played to the glory of flesh and the devil: but musical instruments and music played to and for Christ is not evil, but just the opposite, it is a glory to God. Perhaps your friend was repulsed by ungodly music and therefore leaped ahead and wrongly condemns all music. People make the same sin by wrongly concluding all people as evil, and not discerning that there are in fact good and evil people.
---Eloy on 5/15/08


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The god of this world is Satan and many think he is the same as God the Father, when they are totally the opposite. God the Father created the angels, one was a rebel and that was Satan, Lucifer, the eye in the pyramid on the dollar bill, the god of the freemasons and the Catholics.
---frances008 on 5/14/08


catherine: "Christianity the only true religion. What are you muslim?"

Catholics, Lutherans, Baptists, Methodists, Buddha, Tao, Muslims, Hindus, Wicca, etc. are religions. Every religion has their own rules, doctrines, traditions and their own interpretations of the Bible.

Christianity, on the other hand, is NOT a religion, it is a relationship with God. The Bible is a history of God's relationship with His people. The gospel is about the Kingdom of God and how to get there.
---Steveng on 5/14/08


I do not believe in instrumental music in the worship service.

Many times God's people quote Psalms concerning instruments in the worship service, but have you ever heard anyone quote Amos 6:5?

Burning incense and animal sacrifice is also spoken of in the Old Testament, but I wouldn't want them in the worship service either.
---trey on 5/14/08


frances008: "How can we be deceived? Answer: By not knowing how the devil works, and that he exists and is the god of this world."

The true answer is not knowing the will of God.
---Steveng on 5/14/08


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Steveng>>>You need to know and understand mister, that when you condemn me you are also condeming Jesus. And that bud is not a smart nor wise thing to do. Hell will be extremely uncomfortable for you. I do not expect this to be publish because Satan seems to be the ruler on this site, not God. Oh well. Hell, is hot for all of the Saints persecutors.>>>Because you are really doing it to God. That is straight out of the good book.
---catherine on 5/14/08


Steveng, I do not claim to know everything about the Bible, but I know a lot more about the world than a lot of people because I believe God does not want us to be deceived. How can we be deceived? Answer: By not knowing how the devil works, and that he exists and is the god of this world. Thanks for your prayers. We know that Jesus wins in the end and that the devil is the defeated foe of ALL Christians.
---frances008 on 5/13/08


Christianity the only true religion. What are you muslim?
---catherine on 5/13/08


The NT says Christians should sing psalms. What would be the point in singing psalms if you didn't believe and accept the words of the psalms. So if we sing the 150th psalm it tells us to praise God with all kinds of instruments. How could a person sing that psalm and not obey it?
---Jean on 5/13/08


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catherine: Steveng>>>You seem very religious. Are you?"

Of all the post I've written condemning your posts of a false gospel, you don't know?
---Steveng on 5/13/08


your friends church is going by the idea that instraments arent mentioned in the nt. it just says sing songs and psalms.
---joyce on 5/13/08


Steveng>>>Yes, music chases away demons. God's music. I have been bought and payed for by God's Blood. You seem very religious. Are you?
---catherine on 5/12/08


catherine: "...music chases away demons like nothing else can."

Only God can chase away demons.
---Steveng on 5/12/08


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Silliness ~ you would have to throw out the bible if you believe this. David was a man after God's own heart and the Psalms are FULL of music. Good grief!
---melanie on 5/12/08


And another thing, music chases away demons like nothing else can.>>>Spell-bound-mabe if you consider 90% of you is in heaven, okey!
---catherine on 5/12/08


frances008: If they come for the music, the church is in big trouble..."

Twice in one week I have complimented you for a good post. You are seeing the true thruth besides all the conspiracies you have been hammering into people's heads to prove that you know something that other people don't. Stick with the hope of the Kingdom of God instead of the world man lives in - a world full of violence, hate, etc. I'm praying for you.
---Steveng on 5/11/08


catherine: "You must realize God has only a very few saved preachers out there."

Instead of partying, you could be one of the preachers God needs to comfort the oppressed, feed the poor, give drink to the thirsy, friendship to those in need. Get out of the church. Don't just be a hearer of the word. Go out into the world and DO. The harvest is plenty, but the workers are few.
---Steveng on 5/11/08


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Music can be used as a charm. It attracts people (the right motivation??) and it keeps people spellbound (distraction???) and finally, when the Titanic was going down it sent out the wrong 'Everything is going to be fine' message. When people should have been listening to instructions and getting in lifeboats. Passing ships may have mistaken the signs and thought it was just party time and they did not need help.
---frances008 on 5/9/08


What is left in the churches but the music. You must realize God has only a very few saved preachers out there. I say bring on the music, and let God fill His one or two saved saints out in the congregation with His holy spirit. And it's PARTY TIME.
---catherine on 5/9/08


If they come for the music, the church is in big trouble. They should be going to church for any number of other reasons, but 'for the music'. (Shakes head in despair). How about the Word of God, how about to give God glory, to testify to what the Lord has done for you, to be a friend to lonely people, to recall what the Lord did on the cross, to have a meal to which the homeless feel welcomed, to become a community ??? Good music ministries are rarely combined with the above.
---frances008 on 5/8/08


catherine: "I do not know a better way of bringing God into a room than with melody."

How about with just a loving relationship with God? You don't converse with your best friend using melody, do you? Jesus didn't go out preaching the Kingdom of God in melody, did he?
---Steveng on 5/7/08


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I do not know a better way of bringing God into a room than with melody. Musical melodies. His power, love, overflows me when I worship with music. God's presents fills the room with music. WOW! I do not know a better way.
---catherine on 5/7/08


You people are so foolish.

God wants a one-on-one relationship with us. When you develop a relationship with an (earthly) friend, you don't repeat yourself continuously, do you? Of course not! There are a lot of things to talk about i the heavens and the earth. People would definately think you a bore if you repeated everything.

As for musical instrument, yes, it is Biblical, but there is a time for everything, but not in a temple of learning.
---Steveng on 5/6/08


We are to Praise Him with instruments and your right it is very Bibical
Psalm 33:2-3
Psalm 68:25
Psalm 149:3 and many other places......Not all religons are the same,that is why God wants a relationship,and not religion
---Gabby on 5/6/08


Vain repetitions is really getting the out of context beating here. Read jewish prayers, or songs, a lot of repetition there. All religions use repetition as a means of understanding. Only when it can be quoted without reading can its meanings be known. Chanting is a very effective teaching and understanding tool. As are ryhmes, ditties, and acrostics.
---dan on 5/6/08


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The best instrument to be played in church is the pipe organ. It is so solemn and its voice is like a prayer.
---Caring on 5/6/08


The people with lots of talent might - often do - have tons of pride. For instance, they decide who joins them and who doesn't, which music is played and which isn't. As soon as they don't get their way, they threaten to leave and the Pastor cannot bear the idea of a worship group that sounds amateur and not professional. It is full of problems. They end up running the show. And show is the word for it.
---frances008 on 5/4/08


alan_of_UK: "...the young generation find it inspiring,the repetition draws them... closer and closer to the God they are worshipping."

I don't know what God the younger generation is drawing closer and closer, but it is not the God af Abraham, Jacob and Isaac. The Bible reminds us of vain repetitions. This is the last generation that has been groomed to accept the Anti-Christ because of their shallow knowledge of Scriptures. In fact, most Christian's knowledge today is shollow.
---Steveng on 5/4/08


There are verses that would argue that woman cannot hold any position that requires announcements at church. I would agree with those. They are in St Paul's letters. In the cases I have seen (four cases) women were the leaders in the music ministry.
---frances008 on 5/3/08


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This is a very interesting topic for myself as well. My fiance was raised in a religion that doesn't support music in worship, either. I just don't understand how you can justify scriptures such as the psalms and not believe in church music! My fiance's church states that using music glorifies the person who's playing the instrument and not God. Well, it had to be God who gave that person their talent. What's up with that?
---Amy on 5/3/08


StevenG ... "Third, but not the last, today's music does not worship God nor glorify Him"
Really?
I don't like today's praise & worship songs, I find the music banal, and the repetitive words put me off.
But others of the young generation find it inspiring,the repetition draws them in and in and closer and closer to the God they are worshipping.
There is the same joy in the faces of both those who roar out the old hymns and those who quietly and reflectively sing the new.
---alan_of_UK on 5/3/08


Steveng:

Once again, whether it's indoors, outdoors, or anywhere else, there has been nothing mentioned here to indicate that musical instruments are wrong - other than matters of personal taste, or human tradition. There is nothing in the Bible that prohibits, or even discourages it.
---StrongAxe on 5/3/08


I put the 150th chapter of Psalms on this Blog 2 days ago, where is it?
Mods.
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 5/2/08


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Read Psalm 150. David brought 'common' instruments into the church service. He brought popular melodies into church service. He brought exstatic dancing into the church service. Oh my, the audacity of youth.
---dan on 5/2/08


StrongAxe: "this does not mean that using instruments in music is, on its face, evil.

We are talking about inside a church (building).
---Steveng on 5/1/08


First one needs to remember in the O.T. there was not a so called worship service. Worship was 24/7. The temple was a place to sacrifice and to learn. Even in the N.T. worship was 24/7. No writer of the N.T.
had to tell anybody about the use of instruments. they had the history of Israel as an example.
---mike on 5/1/08


Steveng and frances008:

While it's true that abuses can and do occur (just as they can and do occur in other areas of the church), this does not mean that using instruments in music is, on its face, evil.

Let's not throw out the wheat with the tares.
---StrongAxe on 5/1/08


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I belong to a Church of Christ. Even tho we don't have musical instruments in our service we don't think they are evil. Our reasons are simple. Instead of having a Praise and Worship team.....we are the Praise and Worship team. I've been a memeber of a church that played instruments and it felt like I was at a concert. Now I feel like I am worshiping God. Not saying that you can't with inst. but I feel like there is less distractions. It's all about heart anyways.
---Jamey on 5/1/08


Instruments played in church is not evil however it depends very largely whether the church has been observing the teachings of the Bible to determine whether a church is evil. Your concerns should be whether the church has the truth or not, and not whether the instruments in the church worshipping is right or not.
---Chance on 5/1/08


having musical instruments in the church is OK, the word Psalms means -to strike or strum the cords.

It's the trees we need to remove from the church. It's the trees we need to remove from our homes. GOD will not like this!

Hope this Helps
Love is Agape
---joe on 5/1/08


Psalm 150:
2 Praise him for his MIGHTY ACTS: praise him according to his EXCELLENT GREATNESS.

3 PRAISE him with THE SOUND of the TRUMPET: praise him with the PSALTERY and HARP.

4 Praise him with the TIMBREL and DANCE: praise him with STRINGED instrumentS and ORGANS.

5 Praise him upon the LOUD CYMBALS: praise him upon the high sounding cymbals.

6 Let EVERY THING that hath breath praise the LORD. Praise YE the LORD.
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 4/30/08


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Thanks for your appreciation, SusieQ. I am just looking for the truth like everyone else. I pray that my words do not bring any Christians into disrepute or cause trouble. I believe that we should always be seeking God's will. A lot of contemporary music is good, entertaining and profitable, but there is a time and place for it, and not imho in church/worship times.
---frances008 on 4/30/08


Psalms are like operas, both consist of voice and instruments. Danny we are not under the old covenant. The old testament we learn from. All scripture... is profitable for doctrine,reproof,correction,instruction in righteousness. 2Tim3:16
---mike on 4/30/08


Third, but not the last, today's music does not worship God nor glorify Him. Most songs is me, me, me - a person's life, a person's tribulations, a person's love. Always me, me, me or I, I, I. Rarely glorifying God Himself. CCM (Contemporary Christian Music) should not be found in the church (the building).
---Steveng on 4/30/08


Listening to songs or hymns for pleasure is not a problem for me. What is a problem is when church becomes a place of emotionalism, and enjoyment, instead of a holy place where God's desires take priority. What we know that God wants is for his Word to be Sung, that is the Psalms. Because we do not have the original acceptable instruments, we do have organs, and I have no objection to organ music to accompany the Psalms. That is about all. Hymns etc. What influences were behind the composers?
---frances008 on 4/30/08


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First of all, many of you believe that a church is a building, a denomination or a non-profit organization. Christ is not returning soon to join with (marry) a building, a denomination, or a non-profit organization. He is returning to marry His people. Church means Christians where two or more are gathered together in my name - in a park, on the street, at Starbucks.
---Steveng on 4/30/08


Second, scripture tells us we can worship anywhere with music, singing, laughter, praying, etc. but worship in a building should be done in a harmonious and orderly fashion. This is where the teachings of Scripture should be. In a home church, a small group of Christians get together for worship and singing of psalms, etc.
---Steveng on 4/30/08


Frances, thank you for your input.
---SusieQ on 4/30/08


SusieQ, many composers write by being possessed, not all, but many. Musical instruments, which I enjoy, outside of church are in my opinion okay if used normally. In church I strongly believe that two people were witches (females) in different churches and in control of the praise and worship. One of them had to admit to adultry when she got caught. It was also obviously that they controlled the worship, not the pastor.
---frances008 on 4/30/08


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My dear friend, Many Churches approach Christianity with the human desires and restrictions put there by man and not by God. It does not take a man very long to investigate what the Bible says or shows us about musical instruments. Your friend needs to read more and so does his Church.
---Bill_Gibbons on 4/30/08


Do evil spirits really control people who play musical instruments?
---SusieQ on 4/30/08


No they are not evil!
---catherine on 4/30/08


As far as I know, the Church of Christ denomination does not use instruments in worship. Their reasoning is that, since there is no record of the New Testament church using instruments, doing so is unscriptural.

Then again, I have no idea if they use pulpits, and pews, and other things never mentioned in the New Testament.
---StrongAxe on 4/29/08


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How can I describe it? The whole church has practically been hijacked by Satan, and the instrumentalists are just a small part of the hijacking process. If you no longer dare to go to church for the evil spirits in control over there, you do not care what they are doing there any more. I think instruments being in churches helped to undermine leadership in many ways.
---frances008 on 4/30/08


What ever floats your boat. I am sure you can find a chruch out there to agree so you can feel comfortable. This issue has nothing to do with salvation and does not bring glory to God if it causes division. God gags on your worship if it is arrogantly puffed up with correctness:)
---jody on 4/29/08


This is the first time I have ever heard that musical instruments in church was ever an issue.
---SusieQ on 4/29/08


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