Are Instruments In Church Evil
My friend's religion does not believe in having musical instruments in the church. I can't find anything in the bible that says it's wrong. Music and instrumental accompaniment is a big part of our church's worship, and I'm always inspired by it.
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---Jane on 7/7/05
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Music can be used as a charm. It attracts people (the right motivation??) and it keeps people spellbound (distraction???) and finally, when the Titanic was going down it sent out the wrong 'Everything is going to be fine' message. When people should have been listening to instructions and getting in lifeboats. Passing ships may have mistaken the signs and thought it was just party time and they did not need help. |
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---frances008 on 5/9/08 |
What is left in the churches but the music. You must realize God has only a very few saved preachers out there. I say bring on the music, and let God fill His one or two saved saints out in the congregation with His holy spirit. And it's PARTY TIME. |
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---catherine on 5/9/08 |
If they come for the music, the church is in big trouble. They should be going to church for any number of other reasons, but 'for the music'. (Shakes head in despair). How about the Word of God, how about to give God glory, to testify to what the Lord has done for you, to be a friend to lonely people, to recall what the Lord did on the cross, to have a meal to which the homeless feel welcomed, to become a community ??? Good music ministries are rarely combined with the above. |
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---frances008 on 5/8/08 |
catherine: "I do not know a better way of bringing God into a room than with melody."
How about with just a loving relationship with God? You don't converse with your best friend using melody, do you? Jesus didn't go out preaching the Kingdom of God in melody, did he? |
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---Steveng on 5/7/08 |
I do not know a better way of bringing God into a room than with melody. Musical melodies. His power, love, overflows me when I worship with music. God's presents fills the room with music. WOW! I do not know a better way. |
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---catherine on 5/7/08 |
You people are so foolish.
God wants a one-on-one relationship with us. When you develop a relationship with an (earthly) friend, you don't repeat yourself continuously, do you? Of course not! There are a lot of things to talk about i the heavens and the earth. People would definately think you a bore if you repeated everything.
As for musical instrument, yes, it is Biblical, but there is a time for everything, but not in a temple of learning. |
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---Steveng on 5/6/08 |
We are to Praise Him with instruments and your right it is very Bibical
Psalm 33:2-3
Psalm 68:25
Psalm 149:3 and many other places......Not all religons are the same,that is why God wants a relationship,and not religion |
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---Gabby on 5/6/08 |
Vain repetitions is really getting the out of context beating here. Read jewish prayers, or songs, a lot of repetition there. All religions use repetition as a means of understanding. Only when it can be quoted without reading can its meanings be known. Chanting is a very effective teaching and understanding tool. As are ryhmes, ditties, and acrostics. |
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---dan on 5/6/08 |
The best instrument to be played in church is the pipe organ. It is so solemn and its voice is like a prayer. |
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---Caring on 5/6/08 |
The people with lots of talent might - often do - have tons of pride. For instance, they decide who joins them and who doesn't, which music is played and which isn't. As soon as they don't get their way, they threaten to leave and the Pastor cannot bear the idea of a worship group that sounds amateur and not professional. It is full of problems. They end up running the show. And show is the word for it. |
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---frances008 on 5/4/08 |
alan_of_UK: "...the young generation find it inspiring,the repetition draws them... closer and closer to the God they are worshipping."
I don't know what God the younger generation is drawing closer and closer, but it is not the God af Abraham, Jacob and Isaac. The Bible reminds us of vain repetitions. This is the last generation that has been groomed to accept the Anti-Christ because of their shallow knowledge of Scriptures. In fact, most Christian's knowledge today is shollow. |
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---Steveng on 5/4/08 |
There are verses that would argue that woman cannot hold any position that requires announcements at church. I would agree with those. They are in St Paul's letters. In the cases I have seen (four cases) women were the leaders in the music ministry. |
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---frances008 on 5/3/08 |
This is a very interesting topic for myself as well. My fiance was raised in a religion that doesn't support music in worship, either. I just don't understand how you can justify scriptures such as the psalms and not believe in church music! My fiance's church states that using music glorifies the person who's playing the instrument and not God. Well, it had to be God who gave that person their talent. What's up with that? |
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---Amy on 5/3/08 |
StevenG ... "Third, but not the last, today's music does not worship God nor glorify Him"
Really?
I don't like today's praise & worship songs, I find the music banal, and the repetitive words put me off.
But others of the young generation find it inspiring,the repetition draws them in and in and closer and closer to the God they are worshipping.
There is the same joy in the faces of both those who roar out the old hymns and those who quietly and reflectively sing the new. |
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---alan_of_UK on 5/3/08 |
Steveng:
Once again, whether it's indoors, outdoors, or anywhere else, there has been nothing mentioned here to indicate that musical instruments are wrong - other than matters of personal taste, or human tradition. There is nothing in the Bible that prohibits, or even discourages it. |
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---StrongAxe on 5/3/08 |
I put the 150th chapter of Psalms on this Blog 2 days ago, where is it?
Mods. |
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---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 5/2/08 |
Read Psalm 150. David brought 'common' instruments into the church service. He brought popular melodies into church service. He brought exstatic dancing into the church service. Oh my, the audacity of youth. |
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---dan on 5/2/08 |
StrongAxe: "this does not mean that using instruments in music is, on its face, evil.
We are talking about inside a church (building). |
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---Steveng on 5/1/08 |
First one needs to remember in the O.T. there was not a so called worship service. Worship was 24/7. The temple was a place to sacrifice and to learn. Even in the N.T. worship was 24/7. No writer of the N.T.
had to tell anybody about the use of instruments. they had the history of Israel as an example. |
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---mike on 5/1/08 |
Steveng and frances008:
While it's true that abuses can and do occur (just as they can and do occur in other areas of the church), this does not mean that using instruments in music is, on its face, evil.
Let's not throw out the wheat with the tares. |
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---StrongAxe on 5/1/08 |
I belong to a Church of Christ. Even tho we don't have musical instruments in our service we don't think they are evil. Our reasons are simple. Instead of having a Praise and Worship team.....we are the Praise and Worship team. I've been a memeber of a church that played instruments and it felt like I was at a concert. Now I feel like I am worshiping God. Not saying that you can't with inst. but I feel like there is less distractions. It's all about heart anyways. |
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---Jamey on 5/1/08 |
Instruments played in church is not evil however it depends very largely whether the church has been observing the teachings of the Bible to determine whether a church is evil. Your concerns should be whether the church has the truth or not, and not whether the instruments in the church worshipping is right or not. |
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---Chance on 5/1/08 |
having musical instruments in the church is OK, the word Psalms means -to strike or strum the cords.
It's the trees we need to remove from the church. It's the trees we need to remove from our homes. GOD will not like this!
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Love is Agape |
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---joe on 5/1/08 |
Psalm 150:
2 Praise him for his MIGHTY ACTS: praise him according to his EXCELLENT GREATNESS.
3 PRAISE him with THE SOUND of the TRUMPET: praise him with the PSALTERY and HARP.
4 Praise him with the TIMBREL and DANCE: praise him with STRINGED instrumentS and ORGANS.
5 Praise him upon the LOUD CYMBALS: praise him upon the high sounding cymbals.
6 Let EVERY THING that hath breath praise the LORD. Praise YE the LORD. |
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---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 4/30/08 |
Thanks for your appreciation, SusieQ. I am just looking for the truth like everyone else. I pray that my words do not bring any Christians into disrepute or cause trouble. I believe that we should always be seeking God's will. A lot of contemporary music is good, entertaining and profitable, but there is a time and place for it, and not imho in church/worship times. |
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---frances008 on 4/30/08 |
Psalms are like operas, both consist of voice and instruments. Danny we are not under the old covenant. The old testament we learn from. All scripture... is profitable for doctrine,reproof,correction,instruction in righteousness. 2Tim3:16 |
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---mike on 4/30/08 |
Third, but not the last, today's music does not worship God nor glorify Him. Most songs is me, me, me - a person's life, a person's tribulations, a person's love. Always me, me, me or I, I, I. Rarely glorifying God Himself. CCM (Contemporary Christian Music) should not be found in the church (the building). |
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---Steveng on 4/30/08 |
Listening to songs or hymns for pleasure is not a problem for me. What is a problem is when church becomes a place of emotionalism, and enjoyment, instead of a holy place where God's desires take priority. What we know that God wants is for his Word to be Sung, that is the Psalms. Because we do not have the original acceptable instruments, we do have organs, and I have no objection to organ music to accompany the Psalms. That is about all. Hymns etc. What influences were behind the composers? |
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---frances008 on 4/30/08 |
First of all, many of you believe that a church is a building, a denomination or a non-profit organization. Christ is not returning soon to join with (marry) a building, a denomination, or a non-profit organization. He is returning to marry His people. Church means Christians where two or more are gathered together in my name - in a park, on the street, at Starbucks. |
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---Steveng on 4/30/08 |
Second, scripture tells us we can worship anywhere with music, singing, laughter, praying, etc. but worship in a building should be done in a harmonious and orderly fashion. This is where the teachings of Scripture should be. In a home church, a small group of Christians get together for worship and singing of psalms, etc. |
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---Steveng on 4/30/08 |
Frances, thank you for your input. |
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---SusieQ on 4/30/08 |
SusieQ, many composers write by being possessed, not all, but many. Musical instruments, which I enjoy, outside of church are in my opinion okay if used normally. In church I strongly believe that two people were witches (females) in different churches and in control of the praise and worship. One of them had to admit to adultry when she got caught. It was also obviously that they controlled the worship, not the pastor. |
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---frances008 on 4/30/08 |
My dear friend, Many Churches approach Christianity with the human desires and restrictions put there by man and not by God. It does not take a man very long to investigate what the Bible says or shows us about musical instruments. Your friend needs to read more and so does his Church. |
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---Bill_Gibbons on 4/30/08 |
Do evil spirits really control people who play musical instruments? |
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---SusieQ on 4/30/08 |
No they are not evil! |
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---catherine on 4/30/08 |
As far as I know, the Church of Christ denomination does not use instruments in worship. Their reasoning is that, since there is no record of the New Testament church using instruments, doing so is unscriptural.
Then again, I have no idea if they use pulpits, and pews, and other things never mentioned in the New Testament. |
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---StrongAxe on 4/29/08 |
How can I describe it? The whole church has practically been hijacked by Satan, and the instrumentalists are just a small part of the hijacking process. If you no longer dare to go to church for the evil spirits in control over there, you do not care what they are doing there any more. I think instruments being in churches helped to undermine leadership in many ways. |
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---frances008 on 4/30/08 |
What ever floats your boat. I am sure you can find a chruch out there to agree so you can feel comfortable. This issue has nothing to do with salvation and does not bring glory to God if it causes division. God gags on your worship if it is arrogantly puffed up with correctness:) |
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---jody on 4/29/08 |
This is the first time I have ever heard that musical instruments in church was ever an issue. |
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---SusieQ on 4/29/08 |
I do not believe that you will find it in the Bible. As a matter of fact there are plenty of scriptures that includes musical instruuments and singing. I just love God's music. I do not understand why church with a saved preacher wouldn't have instruments. >>>GOD LOVES MUSIC |
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---catherine on 4/29/08 |
I was just wondering. What if there was a person that was a mute...could not speak, but could play an instrument...is this person not suppose to be able to worship God at all through praise...HIS form of praise? Or would the Church of Christ consider this evil? |
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---heather on 4/29/08 |
I don't see your point. I'm sorry. It's not all loud brassy music. Would God not want us to use our talents to glorify him. He's blessed me with the ability to play the piano and sing... Should I not use them to glorify him? and should I not include others?...if you say this not to be true, then you are strictly going against the Bible... |
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---Colton on 3/4/08 |
Coulton::Instruments are instruments its the behavioural attitude of people who cause the disruption Gods house is a house of prayer we are expected to behave in temperance reverence.When you are delivering a message of love do you clown or dance.The call for music is good but must be solemnIMHO. I sang in a choir as a boy the voices were angelic.soft and apppealing Loud brassy music,is a turn off Hope you see my Point.Good luck.It is the way you are brought up i guess. |
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---Emcee on 2/26/08 |
I am doing a research paper on this topic, and I would love to find out more...I attend a church of christ school, but am baptist... it can be hard at times. I want them to see my point of view... I have found numerous accounts in the Old Testament of people using instruments, but none in the New...if you could help me with this then I would appreciate it |
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---Colton on 2/26/08 |
The Bible says to praise God with musical instruments and with dance. God invented these things to WORSHIP Him (they are in Heaven). |
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---Leslie on 2/9/08 |
I feel the same way you do about having music and instraments in church, and see nothing wrong with using them to send out inspirations to the ones listening to it as it also makes me feel good to hear it. |
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---BeccaSue43 on 2/9/08 |
I can't believe there are actually people out there who think using instruments in worship is wrong. The Bible doesn't say anything remotely like that. Hint: if your instruction came from a "Catholic teacher," it's probably incorrect. |
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---Danny_Bonaduce_Jr. on 2/7/08 |
the Bible is NOT silent about instruments. Read psalms. we are COMMANDED to worship God and give Him glory with all kinds of instruments. does God change? these people are hypocrites as they listen to and play worldly music but refuse to use such gifts for the One it was intended for. David was a man after Gods own heart and he played before the Lord with all his might. |
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---Kraus on 2/1/08 |
The Old Testament is just as relevant as the New Testament. All is the inspired word of God. It's funny we are talking about misic and God is telling me to put on some music. Praise is linked to music. Both instrumental and especially vocal. God loves music. Praise can involved pjysical movement. Prophets has been known to walk down the streets playing musical instruments. Obedient response to God's will is vital to genuine worship. No longer confined to a particular place. |
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---catherine on 2/1/08 |
It's only evil if you play to worship satan or yourself. If it is done unto the Lord then He receives it as such.
The new testament Christians were in hiding so they didn't play too many instruments. But they sang and danced and never never said it was wrong.........
legalism is more likely a sin then music |
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---Andrea on 2/1/08 |
---Jane-- what a quaint idea," I can't find anything in the bible that says it's wrong." Those who do not believe that instruments can be used in the church are practicing bold undeniable law keeping. And what it says or does not say in the Bible is really of little concern to them. Most law keepers are stuck in the Old Testament. They say they believe in grace, but they remain in the quicksand of the Old Testament. |
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---Mima on 2/1/08 |
I think instruments, personally speaking, are a distraction. I was taught, by a Catholic teacher, to sing unaccompanied psalms. I believe the old ways are the best. Paul, the letter writer, said that many things were permissable but not all were good. I think instruments should be stopped and we should get back to what God wants. |
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---frances on 1/31/08 |
I have seen two churches where the praise and worship of God was delegated, or by self appointment, done by women, and both of those females, I realized were into witchcraft. I think instruments in church opened the floodgates for apostasy. |
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---frances on 1/31/08 |
Danny,
I agree that musical instruments are not to be used in the church worship service. If people will look back in history, our fathers of old in the first 6 centuries also felt the same. I also believe they better understood the scriptures than many of us today.
Lord bless you all, |
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---trey on 1/31/08 |
God told us how he wanted to be worshipped and it did not include instruments He didnt have to say not to use them because he told us what to do and that was sing. That leaves all else forbidden. Man interjected the instruments which is displeasing to him. All muscial insturments were mentioned in old testament which we are not under. |
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---Danny on 1/31/08 |
First, you must define the church as revealed in the NT not by what man says it is. Churches today are nothing but an entertainment center with a couple of verses sprinkled around. Sure, Scriptures say to make a joyful noise unto the Lord, but there is a place and a time to do it and it's not during church. The church (the building) is a time for meditation and to learn about God. When Jesus was teaching in the temples, He didn't say "everyone rise to sing..." He only taught Scripture. |
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---Steveng on 5/20/07 |
Music and song is an important part of the church service, but we are to abide in reverance too. the spirit of God teaches righteousness. You learn through the words of God, not by listening to a full piece orchestra or rock band playing at the front of the church breaking eardrums. that is not reverance for God, but a full blown concert. If you want to hear a concert, attend on a friday or saturday night. not sunday where God is the main concern and learning His gospel. |
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---ashley on 5/20/07 |
F.F. that music part is actually the worship part... the direct corporate worship part will always be more important than the Word part...now why??b/c when we worship God we invite God to come work in our lives...now i'm not saying that the preaching part is bad...its good very good...but i feel singing part is more important |
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---mark_B. on 5/19/07 |
I know the Churches of Christ do not embrace music. I do not know where these type teachings come from. It clearly states in the bible that God loves music and made music for His people enjoyment. David was a musician, Muriel played the tambourine, harps were played as instruments. I play tambourines and marachas in my church. We have music and we love it. If we are musicians, we should play music for God and not the evil one.... |
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---Robyn on 5/18/07 |
The bible speaks of harps and lyres and other musical instruments and we are told to make a joyful noise unto the Lord. I think that some of our churches spend far too large a part of each service on the music side of things and too little on the WORD & some are extremely noisy and are losing older members because of this but - each to his own. If your friend does not accept the bible there could be something in his/her 'holy book' that forbids instruments but the bible does not. |
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---F.F. on 5/18/07 |
Music is a part of the Word of GOD. The Word is like a two edged sword. Be careful how you use it. We could hurt ourselves trying to please ourselves. We will give account... |
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---Temi on 7/28/05 |
Thanks for all the replies. What I was referring to as instruments was mostly piano and organ, but I also see nothing wrong with guitars and such, as long as they are played reverently with sincere praise and worship. Personally, I like Southern Gospel, not much a fan of the "new age" music. Whatever brings them to Christ. |
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---Jane on 7/11/05 |
yes Eloy, in the 16th & 17th centuries when the churches were the repositories of learning and culture.
But in 19th & 20th centuries, much church music used folk tunes, and the hymns of today are in the style of earlier secular music.
I don't think that is wrong, and I don't see why churches today should not use secular styles, even if I do not like them! |
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---Alan8869_of_UK on 7/9/05 |
Alan, i believe that it was the other way around. The contemporaries of the day copied the Christian church hymns and the music of the psalms. |
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---Eloy on 7/8/05 |
"Let everything that has breath praise ye The Lord", "praise The Lord with understanding". What did King David do when The Ark Of The Covenant returned? Who is The Lion or King Of Praise? God dwells in the praises of His People. The evil spirit left king Saul when young David played his harp. Better yet, visit a Messianic Assembly and watch them! [What will his religion do when Gabriel blows his shofar or trumpet (LOL)?]. God Bless and Marantha! |
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---bob6749_[Elishama] on 7/8/05 |
I've noticed that those churches that make a major doctrinal point of what they DON'T do, especially using musical instruments, don't scruple to have hymnals, pews, revivals, buildings, and paid pastors... NONE of which are mentioned in the Bible at all, either.
Once a woman talked about her church, boasting, "We're anti-this and anti-that and anti-the-other." Her friend replied, "Keep it up, and soon you'll be anti-Christ." |
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---Jack on 7/8/05 |
Checkout Psalm 150. |
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---rex5764 on 7/8/05 |
Eloy ... I do not see your point ... surely we are talking about Christian music?
I was trying to say, but obviously did not make it clear, that most Christian music was, in its time, modelled of the secular music of the age. |
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---Alan8869_of_UK on 7/8/05 |
Alan, if it isn't christian and doesn't give glory to God, it doesn't belong in church. |
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---Eloy on 7/8/05 |
Secular music of any kind is a counterfiet of God's creation. God created music He created the instruments as long as it glorifies God. We should not be the ones to say that God is not in it. He creates all things. Satan counterfiets God's creations and mocks Him by twisting it into evil.--- |
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---Renee on 7/7/05 |
no...but if they believe is so beit. |
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---monique on 7/7/05 |
Music can create an evil in a church
Example: I've been to churches where a drum beat will pound fast and loud sending people into a dancing, shouting frenzy.
That's not what Paul outlined as an orderly use of gifts, (be it a musical gift or otherwise) for the church that follows Jesus.
Those who say they don't have to abide because a man wrote this have no respect for Jesus' decision to appoint Paul.
Rip the apistles from your Bibles then OK. |
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---Pharisee on 7/7/05 |
Now, if that isn't ungodly, I don't know what is. My friend never sat down. He left in horror and shock. What does that tell the world about christians???? It tells me that place is no different from the world and its devil music. |
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---shira_5965 on 7/7/05 |
Alan, I have been in many churches in the past and not until 10 or 15 years ago did the music start sounding like a bar, "loud and obnoxious". My friend told me about a church he visited in the south Ga area. When he walked in it was dark and a "rock" band was playing and "hip hop" gospel by long hair nasty looking kids. All of a sudden a large glass globe came from the ceiling and started spinning with lights flashing everywhere. cont..... |
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---shira_5965 on 7/7/05 |
Thats silly. Music is beautiful. |
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