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What Was Eve Role

When you read that God made a helper or 'helpmeet' for Adam what does that word helpmeet tell you about Eve's role?

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Genesis 2:18
The Lord God said, "It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make him a helper suitable for him." NIV

Devotionals abound in this area.

No matter what or who a wife & husband happens to be or do, marriage is teamwork. God gives gifts to enhance a marriage. And God intends a marriage to blend. Stressing individuality in a marriage can cause unnecessary tension. Our individual dreams sometimes are forgotten in order to reach a goal from God.
---Barbara67 on 8/22/07


"Yes", that word, "helpmeet" sums it up. A wife, (in the case of Adam), purpose was to be helpmate to Adam. She was to help him. But, it's important to note: God didn't take Eve from Adam's head, to be superior to him, or from his foot to be a servant, but from his side, to be equal with him. (This saying is not scriptural, but accurate.)
---WIVV on 8/30/05


2. Through this website I have met many wonderful people and many I have written for over four years. They live in different countries, and some here in California, but we study together and pray together. We share our lives, something many single people need to do. Many have breast cancer and some have lost their mothers so we help each other. The Christian life is not easy but the end result is awesome, I tell them to hold on to Christ no matter what. Thank you for your forgiveness, keep the good work.
---lupe2618 on 8/18/05


Thank you sister, many times I hear the same thing over and over and I don't want to say anything and then something hits my heart because of prior experience like with abortion because of my daughter or marriage becuase people take marriage for granted and don't know how lucky they are to have a spouse many times. The liberal one really got to me and I didn't want to answer but those things sometimes touch our hearts. I know many women have gone through so much cause I talk to many of them.
---lupe2618 on 8/18/05


Lupe, apology accepted and thanks. I think I'll leave this subject alone now. As usual many of us have gone off the track a bit and not stuck with the original sentiment of the question. God bless.
---Xanthi on 8/17/05




Sister Xhanti, forgive me if I hurt your feelings also as I did Dory. I don't mean to hurt anyone. I guess I should have never mentioned anything because this questions are not helping anyone. all it does is bring more hate, as I can see it did. I can see what the one of Liberalism is doing on the other question. I will stay with Scripture questions and let others deal with the personal ones, and thank you for reminding me. Peace
---lupe2618 on 8/16/05


Lupe I am upset that you suggest that I 'might know a lot of Christian man that are adulters, abusers and liers and murderers and everything else'. I have said no such thing. I am also upset that you state that I am 'singling out Christian men in general'. I am NOT and I don't know how I can make it any clearer than I did in my last posting. I am speaking about 'certain' Christian men who are making big mistakes. I've also made big mistakes since becoming a Christian but mine were different ones.
---Xanthi on 8/16/05


3. Now you might know a lot of Christian man that are adulters, abusers and liers and murderers and everything else but I sure don't know one, since I have been a Christian. If he is a true Christian he will be a brother that loves the Lord and his family. Many are quick to accept a person's profession of faith, even if there is no evidence of any commitment to Christ. So they jump that part and go on to the next. Then later blaming everyone.
---lupe2618 on 8/13/05


2. When you say Christian men, you are singling out Christian men in general. Many women are in trouble because of their own mistakes. Most of them that keep making the same mistakes they do it over and over. Some even write why they choose to pick the wrong ones. Some are saying they are looking for a man and cannot find a decent Christian men because they are all adulterer, and many more things.
---lupe2618 on 8/13/05


Sister xhanti, I cannot tell you much about what you think as a Christian. What I can see is you don't even have a middle ground, it is only about those so call Christian man. If you look at what the sisters are doing, and you can see that on the questions, I believe this is not worthy of a Christian sister and doesn't deserve an explanation if you don't see it. I have put a lot down on this and more will not do any good. Your view and others will always be about how terrible man are,
---lupe2618 on 8/13/05




2. Also because they take these verses so literally it leaves the woman without a voice to even try to explain to the husband what these verses actually mean. The wifes opinion is not valid and will not be listened to because they are the ones who are supposed to learn from the men not the other way around. Please, please do not get the impression that I am saying that all Christian men are like that because I have first-hand experience that they are not.
---Xanthi on 8/13/05


1. Lupe, no way have I put all Christian men together. I am saying there are SOME like the ones I've mentioned. I believe they are real Christians. Have you never met a Christian who makes mistakes in their Christian walk? If you havn't we obviously move in extremely different circles. There are men whose Christian life is exemplary in most areas, the areas that others see. but where their home life is concerned they can be tyrants. Their behaviour comes from verses they have completely misunderstood.
---Xanthi on 8/13/05


Xanthi, your last sentence says it all. You keep mentioning this man Christian. If you read what sister Lisa wrote, that's a true Christian. I don't know a true Christian that does not want to do what God tells him to do. Christians run to do the things of God. That he fails in life is for sure but so do women. But they love Christ and do the best they can to please Him. Those are true Christians. You insist on putting us together. I don't hear Christian man posting things like that of Christian women.
---lupe2618 on 8/10/05


2. For a christian wife to submit to her husband the scripture begins that first the husband submits to Christ. A submitted husband is then servant like in his headship and then the wife submits. If the husband has issues with servanthood and loving the wife as Christ loved the church and gave Himself up for her then the wife is under no obligation to submit. This was revolutionary not only because of its insight but also hearing Dr Laura (a Jew) preaching it on her radio program spreading the gospel.
---lisa on 8/1/05


The problem is not that they take the bible literally because we should. The problem is in this instance their focus is on the OT instead of NT. I was amazed to hear Dr Laura summing up beautifully the essence of the christian marriage reflecting Christ and the Church. She was reading a letter from a pastor and their she was summing it up, preaching the Gospel for millions to hear......cont..
---lisa on 8/1/05


Lupe sadly there are Christian men who have been told that the bible is to be taken absolutely literally, in every detail. They read the words 'the man shall rule over you' and so that is exactly what SOME of them do. There are Christian women, whether you choose to believe it or not, who have absolutely no say in anything. They cannot have a hair cut without their husbands approval etc. And woe betide them if they step out of line. These husbands truly think they are following God's teaching.
---Xanthi on 8/1/05


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5. A true man of God is a man that has love inside of him and not hate. He loves the Lord with all his heart and loves his family. A man that helps others and cares what happens to everyone. Don't include the others with us. I believe that I have stated how I feel.
---lupe2618 on 7/28/05


4. I said it was serious because it is when someone makes a remark like that. What would be the reason to post a question like the one that was posted? Someone wants to start something to see how others will react. That is why I don't like to answer questions on this and questions on Catholics. When something is posted it is not meant for good. Something other then edifying the body of Christ is intented.
---lupe2618 on 7/28/05


3. they brand all Christian man. When the Spirit of truth is in a person, that person is changed. Many women marry the wrong person and they find out too late. just like my daughter did. She thought she could change him, but made a big mistake. I have seen abusive wife's and these man also have made mistake in marrying someone that like to go to bars and party. They choose them for the wrong reason and they too pay the prize.
---lupe2618 on 7/28/05


2. I have seen a lot of your answers and I do agree with many but when you mention Chrisian man you are doing what the world does and blaming Christian man for evils in the world. I believe a true Christian doesn't go around bombing buildings or killing anyone or abusing their families. To put those people with us is not right. Many call themselves Christians but they are not. I know many that are abusive cause i have talked to them but this man or not of God. When news papers say it was a Christian,
---lupe2618 on 7/28/05


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sister Xanthi, I still think even you are making a mistake by saying these man are Christian that go around beating their wives. A Christian man does not go around abusing their family. A True Christian is a different person. When you say Christian men, you are saying real Christians and I know of no true Christian that does that. The man of God I know love their families. They might have faults in life but their fruits or much different that the one's in the world.
---lupe2618 on 7/28/05


Lupe I am not sure who you think is 'making a joke of something so serious'. I got the impression that Ulrika WAS being serious and I WAS. No joke intended, no offense intended. I agree with you that there are many situations that are a total reversal of the one Ulrika mentioned but that does not change the fact that there are men out there (Christian men) who think that they own their wives and can do with them whatever they please. That is not what 'helper' means which is what Paul James was asking.
---Xanthi on 7/28/05


My son married a women right after they both turned 29, they had been friends since their 1st year of college. They didn't actually start dating until they both were out of Grad school. After just over a year she decided she didn't want to be married, she wanted her "free"time.She agreed to counseling, but never would go.She left him with a broken heart and much confusion, he considered marriage for life.He turns 32 today and is ok, but is hesitant to date anyone. The hurt was deep.
---NVBarbara on 7/27/05


3. If my wife could speak, she would tell you the kind of husband I was. I think when someone makes remarks that are bad they don't help the issue many are fighting. It just keeps hate going. If I have hurt anyone's feelings for saying what I said, I am sorry, I didn't want to answer anything at first but it hurts the work I am trying to do.
---lupe2618 on 7/27/05


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2. I have counciled many brothers that have been through a lot too, maybe not as many as women go through but life is different now. Many have come to me through church or emails. I know what my daughter went through. I know sometimes we make bad choices and think it was God sending us someone. I have witnessed to man that are hard on their wife's too. I tell them they are lucky to have someone where guys like me don't anymore.
---lupe2618 on 7/27/05


Xanthi, I do believe when a man makes comments it hurts many women, and they get mad. I don't agree with anyone making a joke of something so serious. I agree with Dory only because it was God's order of things for the Christian. that many man abuse the issue is for sure, but if a person loves the Lord with all his heart he will also love his wife the same. I know man that have had the same thing happen to them, where their wife's left them and the husband did everything to hold on to the family.
---lupe2618 on 7/27/05


Lupe, I'm sure that when Ulrika said the man was saved she was speaking specifically about one particular man, the man married to the woman in the true story. She was not saying that all saved men are like that. However, I am certain that the man in Ulrika's story is not the only Christian man who behaves like that. Sadly there's more than one rotten apple in the barrel and more than one woman who can tell a story like Ulrika's.
---Xanthi on 7/27/05


3. I believe you have the right to speak and say what you want. If it helps you say those things then so be it. I don't think that edify's anyone. You have made your point.
---lupe2618 on 7/26/05


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2. My daughter was married to someone that was abusive, she made the choice to marry this guy and she passed on some real nice guys. it was her choice to make and then she suffered the concensquences. Many husbands are mean, but those are man from the world. When a man loves Christ with all his heart he does the same for his wife. To hear you say that saved man do all you speak of, as if they never done anything, you are wrong. I believe I was a great husband. And you cannot take that away from me.
---lupe2618 on 7/26/05


sister Ulika, I don't know who's story you were talking about and I sure hope that you don't mean all christian man as you have put down, "all saved man." I take great offence when someone makes a comment like that and doesn't know what some good brothers do in their marriage. I don't know who you were married to but I have never been that kind of person. And I know many man that are great husbands. I don't think comments like that are good to make.
---lupe2618 on 7/26/05


Thank you, Lupe! I had to pray extra about this one because to cover the subject properly really requires a book. It was challenging to contain the post to a limited number of words so I appreciate the compliment!
---DoryLory on 7/25/05


That example is true. The man, who is saved, seems to take scripture to say, his wife is his servant. He doesn't seem to show any love to her.
The example shows how people can twist scripture to suit their own selfish needs.
Eph 5:22-25 Col 3:18,19 1Peter 3:1-7
---Ulrika on 7/25/05


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A husband sits on couch while his wife waites on him. She has a full time and a part time job, he has a job. She works with hin on their sawmill too. When she is inside she cleans, cooks,comes when he calls to get what ever he wants. Even when she was very far along in her pregnancies she would use a chainsaw or use the skillsaw, after a ful day of work. She lays out his clothes. He does not physically abuse her like he use to. She says don't say anything to get him upset or he won't sleep at night.
---Ulrika on 7/25/05


Sister Dory, you have put the answer in a great way to explain what I sometimes have trouble explaining. This is a subject that concerns many I know and you have put down the explanation very well. I have tried before and fail in the order of things concerning these subject. Especially God's order of things towards marriage. Thanks
---lupe2618 on 7/25/05


Pt1
According to my reference books the word "help" means to aid or supply what the individual cannot provide for himself. It gives the idea of aiding someone in need.

The word "meet" comes from a word meaning "opposite." Literally it is "according to the opposite of him," meaning that she will complement and correspond to him.

She is equal to (made in the image of God) and adequate for man. She is the other part of man.
---DoryLory on 7/23/05


Pt2
Ephesians 5:22 says the husband is the head of his wife *AS* Christ is the head of the church and wives are to submit to their husbands *AS* they do to the Lord. God intended man to take the lead and He created woman to follow. This is Godly order -- the relationship between a man and woman, united in marriage, is to be a mirror of the relationship between Christ and the church.
---DoryLory on 7/23/05


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Pt3
"Submit" (in non-military use) means: a voluntary attitude of giving in, a co-operating. The Bible says that in our relationship with Christ - "We love because he first loved us." (1 John 4:19). This is how women are created ... to respond to the love they receive. The man is the leader, the woman is the responder. This is God's idea of how a woman complements & corresponds to her husband. She becomes the other part of him ... his "helpmeet" ... and the 2 become one.
---DoryLory on 7/23/05


The closeness and intimacy of a marriage is indeed a help.

Alot is lost in modern times in the nature of the man's role, and in the same way the woman's role can now be confused as well.

The man's role is things that he was naturally better at doing, and in the same way there are many things that a man cannot ever be as good as a woman with.

But that's practical, the spiritual bond is the story, and the real help is the closeness and mutual respect, caring for one another's needs.
---Pharisee on 7/22/05


It means that Eve "helped" Adam wash the dishes after she "helped" him cook dinner.
---A. on 7/22/05


The word is not "helpmeet"- that is a made-up word. What God said was they He would created a Help "meet" (or suitable) for Adam. When KJV speaks of the word "meet" that way, that is how it is meant. Eve was created as a partner suitable for Adam, so he would not be lonely, and to be able to populate the garden.
---Ann5758 on 7/22/05


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Xanthi; I for one like the way you explore "words".Since the original texts were in Hebrew and Greek, translated to English, There are many problems with "word meaning" Hebrew had no written "vowels" (oral only) which can change meanings by adding wrong vowels! Old English had no punctuation,this can really change meanings! The KJV begins a quotation with a capital letter. "prove all things,hold fast to the good" 1st.thes 5.21
---1st_cliff on 7/22/05


-2- Regarding Eve's role, it would seem from this that she was far more than a helper. These words seem to say that she was Adam's equal. In my opinion anyway, no doubt you will not all agree!!
---Xanthi on 7/22/05


The English word helper is too vague.In Hebrews 13:6 "The Lord is my helper"the word means 'succourer'.In Jeremiah 47:4 the word translated as helper means to 'protect or aid', in Genesis 2:18 the word translated as helper/helpmeet actually means 'the part opposite or counterpart or mate'. Here again the English language lets us down somewhat. You must all be sick of hearing me go on about the Greek or Hebrew but I find this a real tool to bible study and getting a real understanding of verses.
---Xanthi on 7/22/05


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