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Baptism by Sprinkling Or Immersion

Baptism: Sprinkling or total immersion? Or does it really matter as long as you ARE baptised?

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I was sprinkled when I was 10 years old. This is when I officially declared to my church I grew up that I was a Christian. I think God honored that but I personally felt a change in me when I was immersed by the Baptist church at a revival meeting. I felt so clean and new. I knew God had been dealing with me about it with that verse about being buried with Christ. It was life changing.
---MichelleS on 10/5/07

The Jews practice baptism by total immersion, and this is the purest way of doing this. However, we are not bound to the legalism of the Jews. If sufficient water is available, then of course total immersion is best, however, if that is not practical or possible, then pouring is also suitably symbolic and serves the purpose.

The Bible speaks often of following the traditions and ordinances taught by the Apostles - the Didache records several methods of baptism.
---lorra8574 on 10/4/07

baptizo means submersion, first use of this word was used while making pickles, first put(bapto) pickle in boiling water than submerge(baptizo) pickle in vineger solution...thats what i remember from my greek studies from today
---mark_B. on 10/4/07

the Bible says by immersion
---albert on 10/4/07

The Bible teaches one form of baptism, BAPTISME BY IMMERSION to commemorate Jesus' death, burial and resurrection. Eph 4:3-5
Thus complete burial (immersion) under the water is the biblical method of baptism. The Greek word "baptiso" means "to plunge" under. Coll. 2:12
And YES it does make a difference! Proper baptism is essential for salvation. Mark 16:16 and 1 Pet 3:21
---Pierr7958 on 4/7/07

why was baptism done in a river when sprinkling would do?
---r.w. on 9/1/06

Bruce, that was the purifying tradition in O.T. times. In N.T. times our baptism is somewhat similar in the fact that when we get baptised now, it is baptism into the body of Christ, which is into God's family and sets us apart from the world also.
---Eloy on 8/9/05

That is the first time I heard anyone compare or liken that to baptism.
---Bruce5656 on 8/8/05

Bruce, yes. In O.T. the Hebrews had a custom of sprinkling violaters in order to stop the curse and restore God's blessings. The priest purified sinners who asked to be forgiven, when they knelt and bowed and confessed their sin, by sprinkling the person with a hyssop twig dipped in water. And also in Ezekiel 36:25 it speaks of sprinkling to purify from sin.
---Eloy on 8/8/05

Are you refering to the OT practice of ceremonial sprinklings as in Numbers 19:1718?
---Bruce5656 on 8/7/05

They sprinkled in the O.T., and they immersed in the N.T. And since we are living by the N.T. we use immersion. The word bapt-ism means dipping.
---Eloy on 8/7/05

Oh,Xanthi, you are very welcome! It was not much work as I already had the notes from a previous study. If you have any questions or would like more verses, please feel free to write me at Dory7973. Blessings!
---DoryLory on 8/7/05

1. I was baptized in a lake at 8 years of age. I knew at the time I was making a statement that my salvation was IN Christ Jesus. I've come to understand the significance of immersion and thrilled spiritually when I witness others following Christ in obedience.
---Eloia_N_KS on 8/6/05

Getting totally wet, in no means is part of salvation..but the first step in obedience to Christ, demonstrating our acceptance IN his death, burial and PTL....HIS resurrerection.. There is no salvation in getting wet. But the power is in the Blood of Christ through faith, (trust) in Christ alone.
---Eloia_N_KS on 8/6/05

DoryLory Thank you so much for going to all that trouble to explain that in detail. I'm going to have to read all your postings quite a few times for this to sink in but, believe me, I will.
---Xanthi on 7/30/05

Xanthi & Ann - I think there can be some confusion regarding tongues when we don't understand that there are different manifestations of the Holy Spirit.

We ALL receive the Holy Spirit at the New Birth and therefore ALL Christians have the Holy Spirit within them. However, the Baptism of the Holy Spirit is something altogether different. It's another completely separate event, another completely separate manifestation of the Holy Spirit.
---DoryLory on 7/28/05

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It is for all Christians in the sense that it is available to every Christian who wants it. However it is not an automatic experience. Just as you have to ask Jesus to come into your heart when you are born-again, you also have to ask to be baptised in the Holy Spirit.
---DoryLory on 7/28/05

To understand what the Baptism of the Holy Spirit is, I think it helps to think in terms of the literal meaning of the word "baptise." The word we translate as baptize in our English Bible actually means to immerse or saturate. To ask Jesus to baptize us in the Holy Spirit therefore, literally means that we surrender ourselves to be saturated with His Spirit.
---DoryLory on 7/28/05

Before Jesus ascended into heaven, when He was instructing His disciples, He was speaking to born-again men. They had already received the Holy Spirit within & now He was telling them of another event that was about to take place.

He told them, "DO not leave Jerusalem, but wait for the gift my Father promised ... John baptized with water, but in a few days you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit ... you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes upon you ..." (Acts 1:4,5,8).
---DoryLory on 7/28/05

When it says the Holy Spirit will come upon you, this word "upon" is significant. The Holy Spirit comes WITHIN at the time of the New Birth and UPON you when you are Baptised in the Holy Spirit. So you have the Holy Spirit on the inside and the Holy Spirit upon you and you're in middle ... totally submerged in God.

The GIFT OF TONGUES is yet another separate manifestion of the Holy Spirit and should NOT be confused with the Baptisim of the Holy Spirit or with speaking in tongues.
---DoryLory on 7/28/05

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The Gift of Tongues is what is given as the Lord determines (except we must be willing). (The Gifts of the Spirit are listed in 1 Corinthians 12:7-11.) When this gift operates it is in a congregation or group and is for the edification of everyone in attendance. It is when the Holy Spirit impresses a person to speak forth in tongues and is ALWAYS followed by an interpretation of the tongue, in English.
---DoryLory on 7/28/05

So as you can see, the subject of tongues encompasses many aspects. 2 Corinthians 4:4 says that people reject Jesus because they lack understanding. I believe it's the same with the Baptism of the Holy Spirit and tongues. If people truly understood the difference between being filled with the Holy Spirit and being saturated with the Holy Spirit and power they wouldn't reject it. It's not that anyone is less of a Christian without it, but it's almost like you have more of God with it.
---DoryLory on 7/28/05

We say that tongues is the evidence of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit because in the Book of Acts, it was the consequence of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit. If you don't like the word "evidence" well, that's fine, but the fact of the matter remains, that in the Bible, when the people were baptized with the Holy Spirit, they spoke in tongues ... everytime.
---DoryLory on 7/28/05

Ann I agree with you 100% when you say 'Tongues is a gift- and a lesser one at that- that not everybody receives. It is not evidence of baptism of the Spirit.' God is a generous God with many gifts and will give them to whom He chooses.
---Xanthi on 7/28/05

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I have wore my regular clothes. We would go to the river bank after Sunday School, and the ones who want to be baptised, line up. the ladies put a safety pin between the leggs of the dress so the dress would float up. there have been times they had to break the ice in order to baptised anyone. both of my times were in the summer so, I didn't mind getting wet, and not changing.
---Rebecca_D on 7/27/05

I have seen people using regular clothes they don't mind getting wet and sometimes special gowns that are weighted at the hem so they don't float up. Under the gown, they may wear a bathing suit instead of regular clothes.
---Bruce5656 on 7/27/05

Hi Ann ... Yes, I agree we are off topic but it seems to happen fairly often in these Blogs. Someone has a thought and a bunch of us are running off in another direction. I just want to address the statement you made about tongues not being the evidence of the baptism of the Holy Spirit.
---DoryLory on 7/27/05

The gift of tongues is recorded as a consequence of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit in the Book of Acts. It was the first operation of a spiritual gift in Christians who were newly baptized in the Holy Spirit.

Here are some Scripture references for anyone who's interested. Acts 2:1-33, Acts 8:14-18, Acts 10:44-46, Acts 11:15-17, Acts 15:6-8, Acts 19:1-6.
---DoryLory on 7/27/05

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I got baptised twice, in a river. Two preachers on each side of me, I held my nose, and they put me under in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost. I came up shouting both times. It truely gives one a desire and a closer walk with God. I recommend it to anyone.
---Rebecca_D on 7/27/05

I am really curious about 'total immersion' baptism. And I ask these questions in total respect, but do the people come to church in special clothes or a bathing suit or what? I know it's a serious thing, but it sounds kind of fun if it were to be in a creek or river outside. Do some people get baptised more than once?
thank you,
---sue on 7/27/05

I was baptised twice, once in a creek and once in a church baptismal. My husband has not yet been baptised but our current church "sprinkles." Maybe he could request total immersion at another location? Thanks for all the replies and God bless.
---Fran on 7/27/05

That was a great, concise, explaination.
---Bruce5656 on 7/27/05

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Dory, I've been filled with the Spirit and I've never spoken in tongues (whole new topic). Tongues is a gift- and a lesser one at that- that not everybody receives. It is not evidence of baptism of the Spirit.
---Ann5758 on 7/27/05

Thanks DoryLory, you are absolutely correct - that is the verse I was thinking of.
---Xanthi on 7/27/05

The bible says to be immersion, (put under). Mt 3:16, Acts 8:38-39. Baptism is cleanses the soul, 1 Peter 3:20-21. Water is an outward visible sign, Acts 8:36-40, it is an inward and spiritual grace Jn 3:3-6, Ro 6:3-11. It is a death to sin and a new life in righteousness. I don't understand why a christian don't want to be baptised.
---Rebecca_D on 7/26/05

Sue, in some churches there is a big tank behind the altar that people use for that purpose. But, smaller churches out in the countryside don't always have one, and I know lots of people who have been baptised in rivers and lakes (even in a swimming pool, one time I heard about). The whole congregation goes down to the waterside after church and witnesses it. But really, as long as the water is deep enough to immerse, it doesn't matter where it's located.
---Billy on 7/26/05

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I have a question thats kind of off topic (sorry). I was baptised as a baby with just sprinkled water on my forehead. How does a person get baptised immersion? Where do they do it? Is there a big pool in the church? or lake? I am really curious.
---sue on 7/26/05

Xanthi - Is this the verse you are thinking of? When Jesus was talking to Nicodemus he said - "I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit. Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. You should not be surprised at my saying, 'You must be born again.'" (John 3:5-7)
---DoryLory on 7/26/05

The word "water" in this verse refers to natural birth and to be born of the Spirit is, of course, to be born again. But the baptism in the Holy Spirit is an additional event that, as Candice already said, is available only to born-again Christians (John 7:37) and is not related to being baptised in water.
---DoryLory on 7/26/05

At the time of the New Birth, the Holy Spirit came to live in us (John 14:15-17). After Jesus had been raised from the dead, He appeared to His followers and they were born again as Jesus breathed the life of God into them. He said, Receive the Holy Spirit, (John 20:21-22) and from that moment they were changed (Luke 24:51-53).
---DoryLory on 7/26/05

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But ... when Jesus blessed the disciples just before He was carried into heaven, He told them to go the city of Jerusalem and wait there until they were endued with power from on high. (Luke 24:49). They had already received the Holy Spirit within. Now Jesus was telling them what to do to receive the power of God upon them. (Acts 1:4-5,8).
---DoryLory on 7/26/05

He said they were to be baptized with the Holy Spirit and receive power! Jesus was anointed with the Holy Spirit and power (Acts 10:38) and the disciples were to receive that same power of the Holy Spirit. It's another separate event for Christians and it comes with the evidence of speaking in tongues (called a "sign" confirming an experience with the Holy Spirit in Mark 16:17, 1 Cor 14:22, Acts 10:44-46).
---DoryLory on 7/26/05

Mandy: No I do not attribute that right to me but I do believe that Jesus left us an example to follow, not to ignore!
Zoe: Jesus said: I tell you the truth. No
one can enter the kingdom of God, unless he is born of water and the Spirit.
Jphn 3:5 (also Mark 16;16 and 1 Pet 3:21) So what about the thief? I am going to let God handle that!
---Pierr7958 on 7/26/05

Perhaps you are right DoryLory, I'm not sure but I hope that Candice will come back to this one and let us know if she was referring to something different. There is a verse, however, where I am sure that the water means the water expelled with the baby at physical birth. I'm not sure right now where that is.
---Xanthi on 7/26/05

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Xanthi - You are very gracious! I believe you and Candice are referring to two different verses. The verse Candice is likely referring to is Matthew 3:11 - "I baptize you with water for repentance. But after me will come one who is more powerful than I, whose sandals I am not fit to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire." Acts chapter 2 gives an account of what happened when Jesus's followers were baptized with the Holy Spirit and with fire.
---DoryLory on 7/26/05

Baptism is important because it is required by Jesus,but baptism does not save. It is an outward showing of an inward change, and because Jesus was totally sumberged, then we should be also because Christ is our example to follow. Baptism of the Holy Ghost does not consist of water, but the spirit of God comes inside of you.
---larry_Cooper on 7/26/05

Being born of water & the Spirit...physical birth & baptism of the Holy water baptism mentioned here at all.
---Ann5758 on 7/26/05

Candice, the water and the spirit to which you refer means (I am almost certain) that our actual birth was from a bag of water (amniotic fluid) but when we are born again it is of the Spirit. I don't think the water in the verse you quote is referring to the waters of baptism at all. Others correct me if you think I'm wrong please.
---Xanthi on 7/26/05

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The method becomes secondary to the message. While I was "baptized", using three different methods, I really didn't understand what it was all about until I was immersed. It's really an outward testimoney of an inward transaction.
Immersion tells folks, look I've died to sin and am ressurreted to serve Christ. Baptism is also a reminder that as Christ was ressurrected, so I will be ressurrected. Personally, I prefer immersion, but it's the message that counts, not the method.
---Ray on 7/25/05

I don't really think it matters, but in keeping with the wise habit of sticking as close to literal Scripture as possible, I personally insisted on total immersion for myself, and I'd strongly advise anyone I was associated with to do the same. No one doubts that immersion is Scriptural and Godly, whereas some people do in fact doubt the other types, so why not go with the choice which is certain? That way neither you nor anyone else will ever have to wonder.
---Billy on 7/25/05

Hmmm Pierr, I think it's interesting that you say that. I guess that means that I am not baptized and am not going to heaven since I was "sprinkled". Who are you to judge who is going to heaven by the form of baptism they received?
---Mandy on 7/25/05

Pierre, you can be saved and not baptized, batism is the first step in obedience to God, not a prerequisite for heaven!
---Zoe on 7/25/05

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Immersion is the one John the Baptist had. By doing the water baptisim you are repenting the sins, but note what he also said , he said that there comes one greataer then he who baptises by the HolySpirit . (Jesus) This one requires no water & can come before or after a water baptisim, BUT Jesus says one must be born again by water&the spirit, so both go hand in hand,but can occur at different times.
---Candice on 7/25/05

Salvation is when you say to Jesus "Yes, come into my heart, because I accept your salvation & I want to live for you" or words to that effect.
Pierre, your words would suggest the person is not saved at that point, not until baprism takes place.
---Alan8869_of_UK on 7/25/05

Immersion, Pooring, and Sprinkling are all valid forms for both children and adults.
---phia4633 on 7/25/05

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