[PART3] after staying there and becoming involved in discussions rather than returning home with His parents. Mary/Joseph never knew He was missing from their group for a whole day! I think that shows how 'well behaved' He'd always been as a child. He told them that He had to be concerned about things that mattered to His Father (and He didn't mean Joseph)! That was a reminder to them of who's Son He really was, but He still did as they asked (v.51) until the time was right.
---Daniel on 8/2/08|
[PART2]Although we cannot state definitely one way or the other, I believe that apart from His miraculous record of living a sinless life and therefore always obeying his parents (if their words weren't against God's will), Jesus didn't do much which 'stuck out' or else his brothers AND neighbors wouldn't have been surprised by his actions at the beginning of His ministry! There is, however, one incident mentioned in Luke 2:40ff, when Jesus turned 12: How he amazed the teachers in the Temple... [CONT.]
---Daniel on 8/30/07|
Jesus was not sent to this world to talk about himself. God chose what was needed in the Bible for his creation to get to the Kingdom of God. If the life of Jesus was included, man would have certainly used Jesus' early life to worship the creation instead of the creator. All NT scripture coincides with OT scripture. The mention of Jesus at 12yo coincides with the fourth commandment "and Jesus obeyed his parents thereafter." The gospel Jesus preached was the Kingdom of God and how to get there.
---Steveng on 3/17/07|
The life of Jesus Christ in the bible contains many verses that talk about His childhood. When He was 8 days old, when He was 12, when He was 15 and baffled those in the temple. It took time to learn the law of Moses, a skill, He was the carpenter's son. It is recorded He waxed strong in faith and righteousness. His Father called Him into the wilderness to be tempted and transfigured. God tests everyone. Even Moses was tempted on the mountain before God let him do His works on earth.
---Dave on 3/17/07|
[PART1]Jena: Because that wasn't the purpose of God in Scripture. It's not a biography all about the life of Jesus! The New Testament was planned by God to be as succinct as possible yet arise from the experiences of its Spirit-led authors to proclaim the Gospel and be a guide to both individual Believers and those called to minister in local churches or as missionaries until the end of this present world! Did Jesus really do anything as a child requiring mention in the NT? ... [CONT.]
---Daniel on 3/17/07|
The idea that the young Jesus came to England is a very attractive one, but it is folklore only, with no substance.
Such a journey would have been so notable that Jesus would ahve told His disciples about it, and it would be recorded in the Gospels.
---alan8869_of_UK on 8/15/06|
English history records Jesus and His rich uncle Joseph(the tin merchant)on the Isle of Avalon. The book "The Traditions of Glastonbury" records and documents Jesus, His mother Mary, and Lazarus(Who Jesus rose from death)here at various times in their history. There are other historical accounts of Jesus whereabouts, but, this is the most verifiable by historical ruins, folklore, and traditions. The author of this book is E. Raymond Capt. Good luck in your studies..
---Robert on 8/14/06|
Eloy, I read the KJV bible a lot here seem to have a problem with. Echad is not "my definition", is not from "original" Greek, etc, but from Hebrew meaning "UNITED ONE"!
Bob is a personal pro noun;
Man & human are simply nouns, a difference!
If The "Triune God" is one god with the same name, one could surmise all god's are the same with the same meanings!
Who will Jesus be "subject" to in I Cor.15:27-28? [not Jesus only].
---bob6749_[Elishama] on 8/26/05|
Actually there was mention of him growing but since they couldn't find who actually wrote them or for other reasons they where not added or I should say taken out long ago. they are some of the missing books of the Bible. I have read a few of them and inquired as to why they where taken out and well I was told many reasons. It also seems in them that he knew already some of the 12. grew up with them.
---Judith on 8/24/05|
bob6749_[Elishama], you are still forcing the scripture to mean what it is not, it has nothing to do with the trinity. You could easily interchange Spirit or Lord or God with any one of the verses and it would have the same exact meaning. The verses are not distinguishing any difference between Spirit or Lord or God, because it is all the exact same one God, just as i could say bob or the man or the human are replying here. And i disagree with your definition of echad.
---Eloy on 8/24/05|
Eloy, one usually find(s) what 'they' look for, 'revelation knowledge' like Daniel's is'nt neccessary in most cases.
Echad does means "The United One", always referring to the plurallity of "God", which He Is.
I Cor.12:4 > ".... One Spirit"; Paraclete.
:5 > "...One Lord"; Jesus .
:6 > "...One God"; Elohim, The Owner!
---bob6749_[Elishama] on 8/24/05|
bob6749_[Elishama], the verses you cited refer to different classes of gifts coming from the one God, and it does not refer to the trinity. The hebrew word "DHA" transliterated "ECHAD", merely means "One" and is used with this definition mostly in scripture, and rarely is it used to mean "one by one" in scripture, and i don't recall it ever being used to mean "united one".
---Eloy on 8/24/05|
Eloy, God The Father, God The Son, & God The Holy Spirit are the same God in reality, yet different 'in expressions', as The Name Echad [United One] confirms, [example, I Cor.12:v4(Spirit), v5(Lord), v6(God) again confirms!].
Yours Is The First "Thank You Jesus" [or specific non 'I' related praise (no disrespect to anyone)] I've come across on this website.
God Is Good [Rom.8:28].
---bob6749_[Elishama] on 8/23/05|
bob6749_[Elishama], actually, let me clarify what i said. The passage in John is a metaphor rather then a parable, where we are depicted as sheep, and the passage in Isaiah is not.
---Eloy on 8/23/05|
bob6749_[Elishama], Thank you Jesus for Isaiah. Isaiah's passage is not a parable, but your passage from John is. YHWH and YESHUA are the same God, for there is only One God, not 2 or 3. "For to us a child is born, to us a Son is given, and the government will be upon his shoulder: and his name will be called, Wonderful, Counselor, The Mighty God, The Everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." Isaiah 9:6; John 1:1.
---Eloy on 8/22/05|
Eloy, Better scriptures are found in Jn.10:1-21, vs.6 answering the question of Jesus/Messias being a shepherd over 4 legged sheep while on earth.
YaWeH is different from Jesus/YeSHua, being the Head of *Echad [*The United One/Father, Son, & Holy Spirit (Haruach HaKoDaSH)], the fulness of the GodHead [*Echad] dwellin "in" Messias bodily [Col.2:8-10].
---bob6749_[Elishama] on 8/22/05|
Sheep herding back then was very common around Jerusalem. Please read Jeremiah 33: 12,13. The Lord YHWH, "He will feed his flock like a shepherd: he will gather the lambs with his arm, and carry in his bosom, will guide them that are with young." Isaiah 40:11.
---Eloy on 8/15/05|
Eloy, Jesus being mentioned as The Lamb Of God, and our Shepherd, is different than scriptures "reading" that Jesus was a shepherd, in conjunction with being a carpenter's son!
---bob6749_[Elishama] on 8/14/05|
phia, that's funny. But we know that Jesus, who never abused his omnipotence, and who was self-abased and not spiteful, wouldn't do such a thing. That is funny though, pigeons, then he could maybe turn himself into a cat and chase them. Ha ha. BTW CE (common era) is not proper for dating, the original dating of time is BC (before Christ) and AD (anno Domini, which is in the annual of the Lord).
---Eloy on 8/3/05|
There are a number of second and third century CE texts about Christs childhood. You can find some on the Internet; and if I remember correctly Charlesworth had some in his published collection. Most of the accounts are incredibly bad; In one text Jesus get mad at some playmates and turns them into pigeons. It is fairly obvious why they never made the Canon.
---phia4633 on 8/2/05|
bob, True christians accept the scriptures reading that the Lord, although he is the Lamb of God, he also is our Shepherd and we are the Sheep of his pasture.
---Eloy on 8/2/05|
If young Jesus "'increased' in wisdom, stature, and favour with God and man" [Lke.2:52], He must have 'continued DOING' something right!
Maybe I forgot, but I don't remember Jesus being a shepherd over 'four legged' sheep in the scriptures.
If I'm right, God's way ahead of us as usual! Prov.4:7-9.
---bob6749_[Elishama] on 8/2/05|
There's much that we can draw from scripture during this time. Scripture reads that in adolescence he was involved in Torah discourses in the temple. He's from the tribe of Judah, a born leader, from the line of kings. And his earthly father Joseph was a carpenter, and so growing up in his teens he followed his father's trade. Scripture also reads that he was a shepherd.
---Eloy on 8/2/05|
Amen to all, especially barbara67. I believe age 30 is also the legal age to be called "Rabbi", as Jesus' recorded earthly ministry began.
---bob6749_[Elishama] on 8/2/05|
If it was important enough that we should know, God would have put it in the scriptures for us. As it is, everything that is important is there for us to learn. God bless.
---Ann5758 on 8/1/05|
See Luke 239-52 - The boy Jesus amazes the scholars
The summary of a whole childhood reads -Luke 2:51 & 52
"Then He went down with them (Mary and Joseph) and came to Nazareth, and was subject to them, but His mother kept all these things in her heart.
AND JESUS INCREASED IN WISDOM AND STATURE AND IN FAVOUR WITH GOD AND MAN.
Incredible, a whole childhood and young adulthood in one verse
---barbara67 on 8/1/05|
Please read John 21:25.
---Leon on 8/1/05|
Why would there be? He hadn't really started His earthly ministry yet, so there would be no need to know about His childhood. There is one reference that occured in His childhood, but how old He was, I don't know. It's found in Luke 2:43-52. His first act of public ministry was when He turned water into wine at a wedding in Cana. (John 2:6)
---Ray on 8/1/05|
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Hi Jena, for me the answer is very simple,it is only Jesus ' ministry which is important to us.Jesus came to do the work of His Father, healing the sick, setting captives free,bringing the word.In the pseudigraphical books you can find stories about the life of Jesus, but they are not Christlike (in my opinion).
You see, the bible is not a history book, but God's plan for the freedom of humanity after the fall.
I hope I helped you a bit?
---frida on 8/1/05|
probably because there was so much in Jesus life that no book is big enough to record them. What was recorded is what God wanted us to know.
---shira_5965 on 8/1/05|