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Can I Remarry After Divorce

As a Divorcee, I'am concerned about re-marriage. Is re-marriage OK in the eyes of GOD, or do we commit sin when we re-marry?

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Jesus prohibited divorce except for adultery, that included lying about ones virginity. The non adulterer could remarry. The adulterer was not free to marry, and anyone marrying one is entering a prohibited marriage. A divorce without cause, was no divorce, and so, another marriage was a type of bigamy. The exception is in 1Corinthians 7:15. If the unbeliever departs, the Christian can remarry because the marriage was not 'in the Lord'. Both Matthew 19:9 and 1Corinthians 7:27-28 allow remarriage.
Deuteronomy 22:17-19, 28-29, 24:1-4, Proverbs 2:17 (forsaketh husband), Isaiah 54:4-8, Jeremiah 3:1, Malachi 2:14-16, Matthew 5:31-32, 19:3-12, Mark 10:2-12, Luke 16:18, 1Corinthians 6:15-16, 7:10-17, 27.
---Glenn on 8/17/09


Come on Brian,

2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.


That's not what the bible said and you cannot add or take away from the scriptures.

matt 19:9 says {except]for fornication

Which is the only scripture based on re-marriage there are several scriptures that enforce the penalty of Adultery if you re-marry.

Romans 10, 1Cor 7, matt 5, Rev, Mark 10, Luke,
---Carla3939 on 2/7/09


If you and your ex-spouse were both believers, and the divorce was a result of you committing adultury, then no you can't. If your ex-spouse committed adultury against you, and both of you were believers, then yes you can.

If you were an unbeliever at the time of your divorce, then yes you can remarry. Period!

If you were married to an unbeliever who divorced you, then yes you can remarry!
---Bryan on 2/7/09


ralph - the church recognizes that all authority comes from God including that of the State and we are encouraged not only to obey the law of the state, but to pray for those in authority.

Your assumption is that divorce is strictly a matter of state while it is not, nor do we see anything in Scripture that says one cannot be divorced or re-married if cetain conditions are met.

Do you find it interesting that those who oppose re-marriage often belong to denominations in which the pastors do marry those who have been divorced?
---lee1538 on 2/5/09


Lee, those are the only requirements God give for second marriages. I am an innocent participant of a divorce and I must say it is extremely difficult. These are situations where the innocent must go into deep prayer and study God's Word for guidance. I am in no position to tell anyone they can or cannot remarry. God will give you the direction you should go concerning your life like He did for me. After intense prayer and tears God gave me an understanding of His Word and my situation. I can remarry but He is going to give me the wife of His choice. A person has to seek God in these situations and according to His Word.
---richa4946 on 2/5/09




Civil divorce ends the marriage contract as far as the State is concerned. Most people don't stand in a church and make vows before the State and pledges to the State. They vow and pledge to God. Does God abide by whatever the State deems to be a marriage or a divorce? If so, then it would make no sense whatsoever for Jesus to say that anybody marrying a woman who was put away commits adultery. Apparently, Jesus didn't buy into the "contract is ended" reasoning.

It's funny how marriages begin with a minister in a church before God, but end with a lawyer in a court before a judge.

If it were reversed, I bet there would be a lot fewer divorces as well as fewer marriages to the wrong people in the first place.
---ralph7477 on 2/5/09


Richard - the reasons you gave for re-marriage are those in 'Marriage Divorce, & Remarriage in the Bible' by Jay Adams- a common reference used by most ministers.

What disturbs me is there are some that believe the innocent victim of a dissolved marriage should bear the penalty of the sinfulness of the guilty party. It is much like killing the wounded ignoring the fact that the church should be an exponent of God's love and seek to restore instead of destroy.
---lee1538 on 2/5/09


carla - the error is your as you assume someone that is divorced is still married.Divorce ends the marriage contract.

In which case, the verse applies to those who are unmarried including those that are divorced.

1Co 7:9 But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.

As stated before the church has the authority to make decisions in these situation as we see even in Biblical oriented churches, the pastors do re-marry divorced people. Are such pastors (even Baptist pastors) guilty of compliancy?
---lee1538 on 2/4/09


We are allowed to remarry under the following conditions.
1. If your spouse dies (not by your hands, that wont count)Rom. 7:2

2. If there is continuous adultery Matt. 5:31

3. If there is abandonment and the one abandoning truly isn't saved. 1Cor 7:15
---richa4946 on 2/4/09


1 Cor. 7:8 I say to the unmarried and to widows: It is good for them if they remain as I am. But if they do not have selfcontrol, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with desire.
Lee:02/03/09

Why did you forget these ajoining scriptures??

1Cr 7:10 And unto the married I command, [yet] not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from [her] husband:


1Cr 7:11 But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to [her] husband: and let not the husband put away [his] wife.

You error BADLY!
---Carla5754 on 2/4/09




Listen sister self,

Was not one purpose of marriage a means for those who had problems with the flesh? Or should one burn with passion instead? Not everyone has the ability to govern fleshy desires and often fails in the attempt to avoid temptation.

1 Cor. 7:8 I say to the unmarried and to widows: It is good for them if they remain as I am. But if they do not have selfcontrol, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with desire.

O' I see you are saying these verses do not apply to unmarried people that are divorced?

Me thinketh your problem is that you are afraid some divorcee may start looking at thy husband?
---lee1538 on 2/3/09


Listen brother self,

In the world of sex, marriage, and faith have you never heard of putting flesh under subjection?

What is flesh?
What is Spritual?
What is self?
When in biblical terms is it necceary that we put certain things under subjection?
---Carla5754 on 2/3/09


carla

thank you for acknowledging that divorced women do just fine raising a family by themselves, and thank you for acknowledging that divorce women no longer have sexual desires or need for compassion.

And yes 'the fact remains God has instructed Order in the church' and that should override any concern we may have that involved justice, and love of God, particular for those who may have been unlucky in their marriage.

The Pharisees were very good about their rules as well.

Lk. 11:42 But woe to you Pharisees (and modern day hypocrites)! For you tithe mint and rue and every herb, and neglect justice and the love of God. These you ought to have done, without neglecting the others.
---lee1538 on 2/2/09


Lee:

Thank you for aqcknowledging that it is hard work no one died of working hard that's life. Re-marriage is not about women unable to work and provide for their children or who will look after the babies women have been doing that for Centuries and even teaching in Sunday school too. The fact remains God has instructed Order in the churches of which we should not be preaching otherwise.
---Carla3939 on 2/2/09


"According to miche, as long as you love your neighbor and love God then anything goes."-ralph

There you go AGAIN. Brother I didn't say this.

What is GRACE, ralph?
THE LOVE OF GOD. He forgives you because he LOVES YOU!!!
When I say show Love I mean God's Love. If you have Christ in you, you will have no problem overlooking man's infirmities.
1Cr 13:13 And now abide faith, hope, love, these three, but the greatest of these is love.
---miche3754 on 2/2/09


cont. please...

1Pe 4:8 And above all things have fervent love for one another, for "love will cover a multitude of sins."

Ralph, God says love. 1 John 4:7-11

"Beloved, let us love one another, for love is of God, and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God. He who does not love does not know God, for God is love. In this the love of God was manifested toward us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through Him. In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins. Beloved, if God so loved us, we also ought to love one another."
Even with disagreements, I have love for my brothers/sisters.
---miche3754 on 2/2/09


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Lee, love or lust, you can't make a judgement call like that. According to miche, as long as you love your neighbor and love God then anything goes. You can't point out biblical standards to somebody who is filled with love. That would be judgmental and pharisaical. Grace man, grace. If it feels good, do it. Far out man.
---ralph7477 on 2/2/09


ralph - if I recall Woodstock, the people there confused lust for love. There is a significant difference as the latter involves more than the physical.

Yes, we can use more love in todays world as love entails respect for others and should focus on the needs of others.
---lee1538 on 2/2/09

Amen, lee.
The 2nd command from Jesus is to love your neighbor as yourself.
---miche3754 on 2/2/09


ralph - if I recall Woodstock, the people there confused lust for love. There is a significant difference as the latter involves more than the physical.

Yes, we can use more love in todays world as love entails respect for others and should focus on the needs of others.
---lee1538 on 2/2/09


Wow man, all you need is love. Just like Woodstock, a virtual love-in. Make love, not war man. I can dig it. Flower power, right on.
---ralph7477 on 2/2/09


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ralph, I am not sure on that. The Law in some countries won't allow it and I am not sure as to why.

I think God allowed it back then to populate the world but on that I am not sure either.

If you did, it is not my place to judge you. You are my brother in Christ. As long as you love God, and love your neighbor, I would not condemn or judge you for it.
I would still love you.

"Legalism says it has, but I suspect that God's love says it does not."
---alan8566_of_UK on 2/1/09
I have to agree with how alan has put it.
It is God's love that is most important.
---miche3754 on 2/1/09


Carla - *For Lee It's all about who is going to take care of the woman and the child, Please! Get a job, I did and where I could not ''I SET UP MY OWN BUSINESS.''

I will not argue with that however, it can be a life of extreme hardship to work full time, pay a baby sitter, and be the kind of parent children really need.

All too often that kind of situation ends up in failure for the mother and the children.

And I can see you totally agree that a woman loses the need for love and affection as those things totally disappear upon a divorce (sarcasm).

I am glad never to have been in the situation but for those that can see, it is all too often a tragedy and serves those that only want to judge & condemn others.
---lee1538 on 2/1/09


Ralph, on many things I disagree with yuo, but here, we both say that "forgiveness" does not mean the offence has never happened. See mine of 1/30.

But I doubt whether this has anything toi do with remarriage after divorce, I would not like to say. Legalism says it has, but I suspect that God's love says it does not.
---alan8566_of_UK on 2/1/09


miche, I have said all along that you are free to do whatever you want. I don't have the desire or the ability to control your behavior. David and Solomon had a lot of wives at once. Does that mean God would approve of me doing so?
---ralph7477 on 2/1/09


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thank you rod. Yes I have thought about that. AND if God chooses, I will have a husband until then, I remain as I am.

"You think David is a success story of forgiveness?"-Ralph
Brother what Bible are you reading? Solomon was the child of that union. My Bible says that He became king after his father died.

No, I did not say David was a success story. Please stop putting words into my mouth.

I said God FORGAVE David and ALLOWED his adulterous marriage.

Brother, notice- GOD does all the judging & forgiving. You keep trying to take God's place on this, but you can't. God is the same today as he was yesterday. Please stop trying to do God's job. For your own sake.
---miche3754 on 2/1/09


miche, I addressed Lee's statement Please do not address everything I say and apply it to yourself when it is not mean't to.

It causes confusion.
---Carla5754 on 2/1/09


miche: Good for you. I am proud of you, you work, you got a college education, raised children, wow. It looks like God is has blessed you and will continue to bless you. In some sense, God is your spiritual husband. That's a wonderful place to be. If you were to get married again, you may give up some of what I believe may be some extra "God blessings (my opinion)."
If God can permit OT folks to get a decree of divorce (granted, for the hardness of their hearts) surely God's understanding and forgiveness is long reaching.
Jan had some good counsel on another blog to have close christian fellowship and prayer (I paraphrased that).
I know God can restore the years that the locust have eaten.
---Rod on 1/31/09


Alan of UK, my illustration would not normally have anything to do with remarriage. But when miche tries to sell the notion that forgiveness magically erases the past, the illustration clearly demonstrates that she doesn't really believe that.

miche, you profess a self-centered salvation. Instead of dying to self, you fabricates your own doctrine to fit personal desires. You think David is a success story of forgiveness? God took his child because of his sin and it forever grieved David. A good man was killed in the process of David getting what he wanted. David cause much pain and suffering to those around him. But selfish people don't consider the consequences of their behavior. But hey, he got what he wanted. Good for him.
---ralph7477 on 2/1/09


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For Lee It's all about who is going to take care of the woman and the child, Please! Get a job, I did and where I could not ''I SET UP MY OWN BUSINESS.''
---Carla5754 on 1/31/09

I have a job. I have worked and taken care of me and my children myself. In fact I am a single mom that also got an education(college) and worked.
I don't need a man to take care of me financially. Marriage is not just for that. It is for companionship. God said this from the beginning.
And, Like I said in the other blog,
If King David can be forgiven for his adulterous marriage to Bathsheba, then So can I, and others. Forgiveness is not your decision, It is God's so stop trying to do his job.
Temperance, sister.
God bless you
---miche3754 on 1/31/09


Let's set the record straigh Carla is not saying a thing the bible is where it comes to marriage and divorce.

Any one can divorce even I can, but to remarry is a diferent story because I am under the Law of Marriage.

I can leave if he gets violent, who'd wanna stay?

I could even leave if I just don't want to be with him anymore,in the sight of God i could not re-marry unless he (carked it!) died.
---Carla5754 on 1/31/09


While the Bible does not specifically say one may re-marry, I believe it is assumed that one may.
---lee1538 on 1/31/09

Thank you Lee1538

ASSUMED!

Matth 19:9
[except]for fornication No assumption ONE exception!
---Carla5754 on 1/31/09


Or, Lee, as in case I know.

The husband, an elder of the church, sexually abused their three daughters.

Would the mother have been wrong to divorce and remove the girls from the danger? Well, the pastor said yes she would be wrong. Her husband was master of the house, and so could do no wrong.

She was ordered to remain in the marriage, so sadly, bullied by the church leadership, she did so.

That caused still more damage to the girls. Even after he was found guilty of abuse in the courts, it was she who had to leave the church.

In the end, she did divorce him ... the girls remain traumatised to this day by the abuse.

So much for this obsession with the man being master.
---alan8566_of_UK on 1/31/09


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Someone committs Adultery...... but in the case of miche and Lee They don't if they re-marry regardless of fornication.

For Lee It's all about who is going to take care of the woman and the child, Please! Get a job, I did and where I could not ''I SET UP MY OWN BUSINESS.''
---Carla5754 on 1/31/09


Is divorce always a sin?

Say (as in the case I know) a woman runs off with some one she met in a mental institution and in order to protect the small children in the family, the husband files for divorce.

Does the husband sin in doing so? Seems to me divorce can simply be a matter of acquiring justice.

While the Bible does not specifically say one may re-marry, I believe it is assumed that one may.
---lee1538 on 1/31/09


Andwhatdoes God say upon every one discussion? according the bible it isnot forbidden to divorce, yet it is strongly regulated.
One one place Paul did say that if you cannot stay pure that it is better to remarrie.
however on another place he also sayd that an overseer should be the man of but one wife.
confirming the old testament teachings that
a priest shouldhave but one wife, and that a king also should not be polygameous.
fact is remariage is not forbidden only regulated. andwhat if we would stick to these simple biblical thruts since over 50 percent of the churchgoers is divorced. the question is no longer there. does Gid forgive? and can the church follow His lead?
---Andy on 1/31/09


brother you should be ashamed of yourself and
Ask yourself that question.
You are ready to throw me and others under the bus. Why not yourself.
Thank you for showing your true Spirit. You trying to trap me like the Pharisees did Jesus,But I forgive you. Brother, Only God's forgiveness matters. I have repented, and am forgiven By God's grace and through Faith in my Lord Jesus Christ.
You are making this out to be a farce.
I don't even have words. This is just sad that so called Christians would stoop to this level.
My Spirit is grieved at this.
And yes, I might not let my children go over there. But I certainly would still love them, and forgive. I can't judge his relationship with God. I am not God, and its not my place.
---miche3754 on 1/30/09


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Ralph & Miche

The way I see it (and I will probably be told it is unbiblical) is that while God forgives, He does not forget for our earthly lives

So, He will remember that we are vulnerable to sin in a particular way, and help us to avoid that sin.

He forgets when eventually judging us.

In the circumstance Ralph describes, it would be absolutely wrong to allow the children go to that man. You may forgive him for what has done, but still remember he may be a danger.

But I don't think this has any bearing on the quesation of remarriage
---alan8566_of_UK on 1/30/09


miche, let's say that you had chldren and they were best friends with the kids next door. On the weekend, the kids from next door would come to your house and have a sleepover. Then the next weekend your kids would go over there for sleepovers. Now imagine that after months of alternating sleepovers, your next door neighbor is arrested and convicted of child molestation. He spends a year in jail and returns to his house. He explains to you that he asked God to forgive him and He did. He explains that the molesting never happened because God forgot all about it. He invites your children over for a sleepover. Do you let your kids go?
---ralph7477 on 1/30/09


Go ahead and remarry and may God bless your new marriage and enrich your lives. 1 Corinthians 7:27,28 Are you bound to a wife? Do not seek to be released. Are you released from a wife? Do not seek a wife. But if you should marry, you have not sinned, and if a virgin should marry, she has not sinned. Yet such will have trouble in this life, and I am trying to spare you. Paul thought they should remain single, but if they do not have self-control, let them marry, for it is better to marry than to burn. I'm divorced and I wouldn't hesitate one minute to remarry a believer.
---Bob on 1/30/09


ralph and carla,
I apologize if I am not as articulate as you. I am human and I make mistakes. Maybe you will understand in this way.

When a person divorced asks for forgiveness from God, are they forgiven? Yes.
What happens with that past sin of divorce?
It is forgotten by God as far as east from west.
So, is that person still guilty of divorce? No, God has forgiven them.
If this is the case, and God no longer remembers nor holds that sin against them, are they still a divorcee? No, they are washed clean, white as snow.
Does this mean they can be married again?
Yes. How, Because God has forgiven them.
Why do you continue to lay a forgiven sin at their feet ~God bless you~
---miche3754 on 1/30/09


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The first question, is Christ on the throne of your life?

I question how people seem to forgive murders, molesters, and rapists, but when it comes to divorce there is no forgiveness.

Along the same line, have divorcees repented of coming short of the glory of God? My problem are with the divorcees who say that they never did anything wrong.
---Rod on 1/29/09

Yes sir. I have repented for it.
I had my faults/mistakes, I humbly admit that. If I didn't how would I learn from them? God showed me what I did wrong.
True, if these type of people can be forgiven, why not divorcees?
And why are they so harsh and unloving like they have never sinned?
No sin is greater than another. All have sinned an fell short.
---miche3754 on 1/30/09


Sin of divorce is Sin until you ask for forgiveness and then God forgives you
and Greater is the Grace of God that abides over all sin.

Its not alright to sin - not by any means -But if getting remarried is a sin -
Then a person should consider honestly that asking for Forgiveness for getting remarried
Qualifies for Gods Grace and His Forgiveness, then according to Gods word is Forgotten and cast away as far as east from west and never brought up again by God.
Then its no longer a Sin in Gods Eyes.
continue please......
---g on 1/30/09


continue please....

To argue that its a sin after asking God for forgiveness, having faith that you are forgiven By God -
Makes those that argue about "if it is forgiven or not" like a Pharisee and/or judge that believes they know better than God Himself. In truth, they are like the Idolater who makes their own beliefs, words, and/or interpretations as god and is in danger of being judged by God by their own set of standards.....

Judge Not lest ye be Judged and by the same measure you judge you shall also be judged by ".....

~God blessings and God's peace be with you~
---g on 1/30/09


miche, just curious, have you been taught all this stuff you come out with or did you just kind of figure it out for yourself? Your reasoning is all over the place.

It makes no sense at all to say that Jesus was talking about remarriage when he speaks of eunuchs. Eunuchs didn't marry. Therefore, there would be no occasion for them to marry, or not marry, a second time.

First you argued that what Jesus taught was Law, when in fact he amended the Law. Then you quote Jesus rebuking the Pharisees in an effort to dismiss Jesus own teaching, meaning that Jesus was denouncing Himself. Now you put yourself in the catagory of a eunuch, which by definition is male, by the way.

Well, I tried. You can't say nobody ever told you.
---ralph7477 on 1/30/09


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Paul taught what Jesus taught and in line with that conviction gave guidlines You cannot take away or add to what is written, either you accept it is the word of God or re-write it.

I have friends umarried NEVER loved,NEVER had some to say I Love you, NEVER kissed,NEVER had a child to love to hold, had Fiberous wombs and one friend that will lose her womb this year Yet, they do not ask to commit fornication in order to fulfil their needs of motherhood,even for the chance to be ''Loved''.

What do you tell them? better to have loved once than never loved at all!

Give me a break, they have a right to be married too Yet they HAVE to REMAIN SINGLE!

What hindered You?
---Carla3939 on 1/30/09


I am Rod. There is a post here 1/29/09 that is not my post. This blog system must have mixed something up. I apologize for this blog mix up.

I don't express myself the way that blog appeared.

The subject of divorce and remarriage needs to be discussed on a person by person basis, each situation is unique.

The first question, is Christ on the throne of your life?

I question how people seem to forgive murders, molesters, and rapists, but when it comes to divorce there is no forgiveness.

Along the same line, have divorcees repented of coming short of the glory of God? My problem are with the divorcees who say that they never did anything wrong.
---Rod on 1/29/09


There is always a problem with those that treat the Bible as some kind of iron hand lawbook and neglect justice & the love of God.

Lu 11:42 But woe to you Pharisees! For you tithe mint and rue and every herb, and neglect justice and the love of God. These you ought to have done, without neglecting the others.

For the woman whose husband left her without any decent means of support, they simply say 'O well that is just too bad but you must go on without for yourself & children as God,s law forbids any compensation for the victims'.

Frankly, I feel their religion really stinks.
---lee1538 on 1/29/09


miche, it is you who has ignored the key verse 10... "His disciples said to him, if the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry." In other words, the disciples were basically saying that if divorce and remarriage was now going to be so difficult and limiting then it would be better not to marry in the first place. That is what Jesus was responding to. First marriages, not remarriages.
---ralph7477 on 1/29/09
Brother, this is what you see in this verse.
I see it different.
And explain why so many 2nd remarriages are prosperous? Especially for Christians.
~God bless you brother~
---miche3754 on 1/29/09


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why does everyone here leave out verses?
This is cherry picking and it is not true study and obedience to the Word.
The marriage sermon includes Matt 19:2-12.
I have seen no one post ALL of it.
Same with 1 Corinthians 7. You forget verses 12-16.

These verses give reference to acceptions to divorce. How come no one has expounded on it?
Matthew 19:11-12 plainly says This command(no divorce) is only accepted by the ones it is given to.
And that those who can accept it should accept it.
I Corinthians 7:12-16
Releases the Christian who was married to an unbeliever who leaves. The Christian is not held responsible for the actions of the unbelieveing spouse. WHY has everyone ignored this scripture?
Gods peace!
---g on 1/29/09


carla, you said you don't understand what I am talking about in those verses that are part of Jesus to the Pharisees.

He says "Only to those it is given". The question is, is the command given to me or others like me?

Sister, it goes back to what Lee is talking about. Paul says we should have sound doctrine. I am sure this is what Jesus is talking about.
No, we should not divorce for just any reason. That is wrong. But why should anyone who's in a marriage that's dealing with abuse, adultry, molestation and such horrific things, stay in a marriage like this? then, not be able to remarry someone who is deserving of them? this isn't sound doctrine. It causes many of our brothers and sisters to stumble and fall.
---miche3754 on 1/29/09


Carla - I understand your position however, often comes to my mind is -

Lu 11:42 But woe to you Pharisees! For you tithe mint and rue and every herb, and neglect justice and the love of God. These you ought to have done, without neglecting the others.

I do not see your position much different than the Pharisees as clearly you wish to deprive others of basic needs which they may not have unless re-married.

Too many men have left their wives and children without much support. Your position would deprive even the children of a needed male figure in the home or maybe even force a women into proverty.

Instead of helping other rebuild their lives and become useful to the church, you place a condemning judgment on them.
---lee1538 on 1/29/09


Rod,

You are in the wrong Century, Jesus spoke to people who did not recognise him a the Authority,

Your accusations are futile and represent the false witness you present.

I recognise Christ as savior and his word as finite,

2 Ti 2:15 Study to shew yourself approved a workman that need not be ashamed rightly dividing the word of truth.......

2Ti 2:16 But shun profane [and] vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.

2Ti 4:2 Preach the word, be instant in season, out of season, reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
---Carla5754 on 1/29/09


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Rod:-There are NO CAN'T doers only doers by CHOICE.which is what is given by Jesus -Follow me-Not obstruct me.The butt pain you express was by the sanctimonious Pharisees.To merely identify a Gospel tract which is the WORD on a given subject amounts to a butt pain for the offender who does not know what to choose as he/she is pulled in 2 directions.Called "on the horns of a dilemma".
---MIC on 1/29/09


Mische:-"I BELIEVE and have proof that God blesses 2nd Marriages."PROOF ? Certain marriages are INVALID.maybe, these are the ones He blesses.but as a general practice a valid Marriage will not brook God's word which NEVER changes.I want you to consider the fact as to why GOD from GENESIS made that statement"2in one flesh-increase and Multiply"I shall give you a clue 'CAN GOD BE DIVIDED"?.when you find the true answer then you will understand.
---MIC on 1/29/09


I think Miche get's more guilt from the Christian community than answers.

Christians are so willing to preach what you can't do, and have little to no desire to be Christ like enough to help people through the tuff times.

The can't doers where always a pain in the butt to Jesus and still are.
---Rod on 1/29/09

Thanks Rod!
I don't get condemnation from God. I have the faith that I forgiven & can remarry, but I get flak from my fellow Christians. They say "it is all your fault, deal with it. you can't get forgiven for this".But they don't offer solutions.
They don't understand that this is what I hear. Its okay though. I still love God and he loves me.
---miche3754 on 1/29/09


Lee:

1Cr 7:8 I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I.


1Cr 7:9 But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.


What does this passage read in your translation because in mine Paul speaks to the UN-married and widows QUITE Clearly and concisely!

Where did it say ''if the divorced want remarry it is better to marry than to burn?

Another accursed Gospel!

Gal 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any [man] preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
---Carla5754 on 1/29/09


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Lee:
On the other hand, no one like to be accused of committing the unpardonable sin of re-marriage.

Mat 12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the [world] to come.


Some believe that it is better to burn with passion, then to re-marry and to spend the rest of your life alone without companionship.

1Cr 7:8 I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I.


1Cr 7:9 But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.
---Carla5754 on 1/29/09


While one may not put away his wife for the purpose of marrying another (probably the intent to what Jesus said), the church has authority over its membership and may decide these cases.
---lee1538 on 1/29/09

Mat 19:9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except [it be] for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

The Church Spoke!
---Carla5754 on 1/29/09


Carla - *If you really believed you could re-marry in peace you wouldn't be spending so much time arguing about it.

On the other hand, no one like to be accused of committing the unpardonable sin of re-marriage.

Some believe that it is better to burn with passion, then to re-marry and to spend the rest of your life alone without companionship.

While one may not put away his wife for the purpose of marrying another (probably the intent to what Jesus said), the church has authority over its membership and may decide these cases.
---lee1538 on 1/29/09


I think Miche get's more guilt from the Christian community than answers.

Christians are so willing to preach what you can't do, and have little to no desire to be Christ like enough to help people through the tuff times.

The can't doers where always a pain in the butt to Jesus and still are.
---Rod on 1/29/09


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carla, sister that is funny, because I am not arguing, you guys are. I am not mad either. Just trying to understand.

I know I am forgiven but you and others just want to keep at it and keep at it just to PROVE you are right. This discussion is never nor has it been truly about the word nor for edification. It has always been that the ones who believe in no remarriage is right and that the ones who believe it is okay are wrong.
Try asking Jesus. Let him show the way.
The Word is never wrong. We are the ones that have the error. And, If God blessed so many unions like my parents, maybe those who are against need to rethink what they think Jesus is saying on it.
---miche3754 on 1/29/09


The Law had always said that men can divorce and remarry for any reason as long as they gave their wives a bill of divorcement so that the next man who came along knew that she was really divorced. Jesus amended that law in verses 8 ,9 by making it much harder to divorce and expanding the definition of adultery.

miche, it is you who has ignored the key verse 10... "His disciples said to him, if the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry." In other words, the disciples were basically saying that if divorce and remarriage was now going to be so difficult and limiting then it would be better not to marry in the first place. That is what Jesus was responding to. First marriages, not remarriages.
---ralph7477 on 1/29/09


Mat 19:9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except [it be] for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.


Mat 19:10 His disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with [his] wife, it is not good to marry.

Note: they realised it was not good to marry if the case of both of them.

Mat 19:11 But he said unto them, All [men] cannot receive this saying, save [they] to whom it is given.

NOTE:
not everybody will accept the case being the same equation for both!!!!!!

I don't have a clue what you were on about?
---Carla5754 on 1/29/09


Miche,
If you really believed you could re-marry in peace you wouldn't be spending so much time arguing about it.
---Carla5754 on 1/29/09


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mic, 3 half brothers from my mothers remarriage and1 half sister & step brother from my fathers remarriage. Sadly, my real father & step mother are both with God . I believe & have proof that God blesses 2nd marriages. My parents were blessed, ask God if remarriage is sin, why did he bless my parents and others in the Church who are remarried.
Perhaps, you are not taking in the right context because I never said Jesus was wrong. I said maybe you are wrong.
Um, mic, that would be WHY I haven't gotten married again, yet. Because I am not going to make that mistake again. If I get married again, it will be God's will, just like with my parents. You refuse to accept it... Jesus said some will and some won't.
---miche3754 on 1/29/09


Name one scripture!
---Carla5754 on 1/29/09


well ralph, ask me how I knew you would try this too?
Here you go... the verse that you ignore in Matthew 19.. part of the answer to the marriage question that the Pharisees asked that all you who are against it ignore...
Matthew 19:11-12
Jesus replied, "Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given.
"For some are eunuchs because they were born that way, others were made that way by men, and others have renounced marriage[c]because of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it."

Apparently I am one it doesn't apply to because it wasn't given to me.
~God bless you~
---miche3754 on 1/29/09


Mische :-You did use the word Punish!1/28/09 your post,not I, maybe you were alluding to what you say, but the text shows different.You show a strong case in your RCC stepdad but you do not show step bros and sisters.What guarantee is there that the next man you marry will be like your Step dad.?You take a majority of people opinion, against Gods word as we know it.-Peace Mische.
---MIC on 1/28/09


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DIVORCE IF FINE READ THE GREEK WORD
FOR LOOSED
IF A MAN MARRIES HE HAS NOT sinned
and if a VIRGIN MARRIES SHE HAS NOT SINNED

I am divorced I am fourty two and raised four children alone for fourteen years
she was never a wife to menever a sexual mate was not honest did not love god or his word and then went out and slept with another man
I AM FREE THERE IS ONE UNFORGIVEABLE SIN
and thats of the HOLY SPIRIT
all those the lie about this topic
GET LOST I REBUKE YOU SHARPLY JUST LIKE PAUL SAID TOthat GOD HATED
because then the MEN WERE STILL MARRIED
and the woman could NOT MARRY WITHOUT THE DIVORCE
IT WAS THE HARDNESS OF THEIR HEARTS
---Robert on 1/28/09


miche argues on another blog: "Jesus said if a man looks at a woman with lustful thoughts HE has already sinned."

miche, why are you using this teaching of Jesus to make a point? You have been arguing that we are not to take the teaching from the Sermon on the Mount literally. You have been trying to convince people that what Jesus was teaching is Law and we are not to live under the Law. You disregard Jesus' teaching on remarriage which is recorded a mere 4 verses after his teaching on lustful thoughts.

Tell me miche, why is one verse valid and the other not valid? Perhaps you can explain how you pick and choose which of Jesus' teachings from the Sermon we are to follow and which ones we are to ignore.
---ralph7477 on 1/28/09


mic, brother, I didn't say God punished anybody.
I said self-righteous, holier-than-though Christians. God said that people like to throw your past in your face.

My momma was a divorced woman(from physical abuse) & my step dad had never been married before her. They've been together for 30yrs. He loves her more than breath. He takes care of her (she has Alzheimer's). He accepted me & my brother, raised us as his own.Funny, He came from a strict RCC background.
Wonderful how God works, to me, that is how God's love is manifested. I love my dad(I have always called my step dad that), respect him. You can say God doesn't bless remarriage, but I have a 1st hand account that He does.
~God Bless You~
---miche3754 on 1/28/09


ralph,mic, carla, thank God your opinion isn't the majority and God has fixed it all. His word says so. And He says he has someone for me. So, what ALL of you say here does not matter. God has the last say so. If he Says I am forgiven, then I am. I thank Him that It He is in control and not judgmental Pharisees impersonators like yourselves. You do realize it is People like you that Jesus was talking about right? I hope so and I pray for your hard hardheartedness.
You go ahead and take the 12 Scripture for divorce literal. I take the Hundreds that say I am forgiven as far as the east is to the west of every sin, AMEN!!!!
~God Bless You all~
---miche3754 on 1/28/09


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continue please...
oh, ralph, if you think Real Christian men don't want a divorced woman, try telling them that on sites like christian mingle, even here.
carla,
Rom 7:4
Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ, that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God

Sister, since I am in the body of Christ, I don't need the law to tell me I sinned and need to repent. I have rented and am not guilty any more. That past sin has been washed away. I am free to marry again.
Too bad ya'll don't think God transforms you to saint free of all past sin.
---miche3754 on 1/28/09


miche,

for my understanding can you provided scripture verse for Grace operation in separation to the Law of marriage.
---Carla5754 on 1/28/09


Hey miche, if I say it with a smile does that make it better? Come on, I thought it was pretty humorous. And like all good humor, there is some truth in there.

You do realize that you are in a catch22 situation. You say you want a real take charge Christian man who loves the Lord and follows Jesus. But a real Christian man who claims to follow Jesus will not want to marry a divorced woman because Jesus said it would be adultery. So you will have to settle for a man that you can convince to think like you do, hence... gullible.

Anyway, I don't hate divorced women. I just wouldn't marry one.
---ralph7477 on 1/28/09


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