Larry,I had never heard that about the Kennedys,but I agree with you its nonsense. You are also right punishment from God is always on the sinner,and blessings on those who love and obey God. Since the Old Testament is our teacher of what God wills,wants,I should say expects,and does concerning his people,and the New Testament says the things under the Old Covenant are gone,passed away,the handwriting of ordinances were nailed to the cross,those are the very reasons there are no more family curses. There is learned behavior which goes from generation to generation and there are physical Genetics which are passed down but those are not from a curse. God said its gone so its gone. |
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---Darlene_1 on 8/3/09 |
Darlene interesting. I believe both versus are perfectly matched and consistent and not in conflict with God's promises.
Try this on for size.
For the unrepentent curses will pass on to the 3rd and 4th generations, but curses will not fall on the contrite and obedient heart. Anyway that is the explanation I received.
I have heard people use the seeming curse
from Exodus 4:20-21 to explain the tragedy's befallen on the Kennedy men. It may be nonsense but I've heard it. |
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---larry on 8/2/09 |
Darlene 1 - You are NOT lined up with the Bible. The Bible says that when we do NOT obey God and His commands, or when we do NOT bless Israel and the Jews - we put curses on ourselves. Just because Jesus died and rose again does NOT mean we are free from curses, ONLY the curse (penalty) of sin and death. The Bible says that the sins of the Father can be visited on the children even to the fourth generation. When we and our forefathers disobey God's commands (that still MUST be obeyed today) there is a curse that comes on us. This is ALL lined up with the Bible. Just because Jesus died does NOT mean that our forefathers or us no longer disobey God, ALL people still disobey God on a daily basis. |
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---Leslie on 8/1/09 |
Leslie,you are misinformed. Andrew gave all of you the Bible scriptures which prove you are wrong if you say Generational curses are passed from parents to children. The Bible makes it clear,believe it. Ezekiel 18:20 (but read the whole chapter)The soul that sinneth it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father,neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him,and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him. God removed that proverb, EZ.18:2,3,4 people used proverb the fathers have eaten sour grapes and the childrens teeth are set on edge. As I live, saith the Lord GOD,ye shall not have occasion,anymore to use this proverb in Israel.the soul that sinneth,it shall die. |
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---Darlene_1 on 8/1/09 |
Generational Curses ARE Biblical. The Bible talks about the sins of the father are visited on the children even to the fourth generation. You are NOT responsible for what they did, but ARE responsible for how you respond. You MUST confess, repent (denounce) and ask for forgiveness of ALL the sins of your forefathers, and then forgive (release) them. This will bring freedom. |
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---Leslie on 7/30/09 |
I have seen personality disorders, diseases, and behavior passed down as family curses.
Isaiah 53 & Isaiah 61:1-3.When one accepts Mashiach they are responsible for their own sins under New Covenant.
however, just as their are community sins, there are certinally family sins against Elohim and others. Exodus 20:5 & 34:7.
Someone must turn around and set the family name straight at times. Meaning a new generation of God lovers and followers.
Forgiveness, Reconciliation and retribution are certainly seen and practiced today. |
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---Yochanan on 7/28/09 |
Original sin. Sentance passed is man toils ground and woman has pain in childbirth. Expelled from Eden. Jesus came. Pre sin, man has good condition. If christ redeemed you from this, then why do you still have to toil land and women have pain in childbirth? Ever consider? You can't say that the blessings from Deut. carry forward and the curses don't from the same scriptural base unless you are picking and choosing what it says. Generational curses do and can exist. The church hides in ignorance and for the most part is about as spiritual as a sweet potato. Did Jesus cast out demons or was he just confused? Did he raise the dead or was that a show? Just because you haven't experienced something is arrogant to think you know so much. |
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---William on 7/27/09 |
Bob Larson's ministry has demonstrated over and over that Christian's can have demons and have curses on their lives. Yes Jesus has taken away the curse but that's positional truth. I believe breaking generational curses in our lives is a part of working out our own salvation as the NT commands us. The children of Israel were given the promise land but they hand to go and possess the land. Not everything is automatic. Let's not be dogmatic and consider the others point of view especially if it's coherent and logical. I have had a curse remove from my life after I became a Christian. I know generational curses are real. |
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---jeff on 5/6/09 |
The references to the "iniquities" (failures) of "the fathers" refer to "fathers" of the faith. The fathers will always remain GUILTY for their own failures (no one else), but the children (future generations) will also end up dealing with the effects of that failure (if the child rejects/hates The Lord like the father did).
God is specifically talking about Israelites (Leviticus 26:42, "my covenant with Jacob") about having "gods" before Him (He is a JEALOUS God).
Deuteronomy 5:9
"shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I the LORD your God am a jealous God".
Just as a spouse gets JEALOUS if you show attention to another, so does God get JEALOUS. |
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---more_excellent_way on 4/24/09 |
Please, please read Ezekiel 18.
Generational curses don't exist!
They're great for writing books and making money to sell to poor, suffering folk who are feeling guilty or sad.
God said no more of this saying in Israel - teeth on edge, sour grapes, etc. |
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---Andrew on 4/24/09 |
This is what happens when you incorporate the Law in with the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
Confusion. Everyone is running to have generational curses broken off of themselves when it is their own sin that needs repenting of. Looking for a scapegoat, always looking for someone else to place the blame on for your own sin is not the Gospel of Jesus Christ. |
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---Cindy on 2/11/08 |
If you are born again, saved, Jesus Christ died for your sins, you are not under a generational curse(s).
When corruptible has put on incorruption, your mortal body has put on immortality, it is written "Death is swallowed up in victory." |
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---Cindy on 2/11/08 |
The Bible says in 1 Corin 15:56
The sting of DEATH IS SIN, and the STRENGTH OF SIN IS THE LAW. |
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---Cindy on 2/11/08 |
Putting yourself back under the Law is putting yourself back under the Curse.
If you are practicing the Law, picking and choosing which parts you think you are fulfilling under the Law, you have put yourself back under the Curse. |
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---Cindy on 2/11/08 |
generational curses are in the bible. Lots of offspring suffered because of what their forefathers did. The same today. If you are from a dysfunctional family, your offspring will probably be dysfunctional and keep going. To break that sort of curse, us christians should try and get those saved. That will break the curses. |
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---shira_5965 on 11/10/07 |
there is a curse in Mat27:the chief priests n elders pursuaded the people 2ask 4Barabus n destroy Jesus. when Pilate saw he could prevail nothing, he washed his hands off it.V25 Then answered all the people and said, "His blood be on us, and on our children" Wasnt that selfish of them to do that to our generation? I believe that still stand today... |
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---mam on 1/4/07 |
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The only generational curse is the one by Adam, and when you are born again and the blood is applied you are set free from the Curse of the law of sin and death and you can now have that eternal Life and all blessings are yea and amen unto you through Christ by the Holy Spirit. If the devil makes you believe this false doctrine you are denying the Power of the Cross and the blood of Jesus. |
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---exzucuh on 1/4/07 |
Generational Curses ARE Biblical, and can happen to believers and non-believers alike. We are NOT responsible for what our forefathers did, it is their sin alone, however, that sin can be visited upon us. |
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---Leslie on 1/4/07 |
Generational curses happen in non-believer's life. Example, the children of non believers that have a disposition for alcohol will in many cases have been born with that disposition or bent towards that "enticement" and they will reap the consequences if they act out and live that lifestyle. They are being punished for their own sins, not the sins of their ancestors. The Bible specifically tells us that God doesn't hold children accountable for the sins of their parents (Deuteronomy 24:16). |
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---Phil on 10/14/05 |
Darlene, wild olive trees/gentiles were grafted into the natural olive trees/Jews, both "nourished" from Echad/God.
No Tenach/Jewish Covenant, no Brith Chadasha/New Covenant. Neither stand alone. Messias/Christ connects them.
Houses with no foundations fall.
Foundations with no buildings are vain.
"The woman is of the man, ever since, the man has been 'by' the women, [yet one is not without the other] all things are of God"!
Echad's {God's] Best! |
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---bob6749_[Elishama] on 9/26/05 |
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The Israelites could not have possibly have accepted Messias/Yeshua/Jesus Christ as their saviour & be healed from any malady, curse, etc thereby, as "The Son Of God" was still in The Bosom Of The Father, not yet manifested in the flesh! [Isa.53:5; Jn.3:14-21, Gal.3:13, I Jn.1:8-10 stands!].
They would not even look on the *Brazen Serpent to be healed in the wilderness! [*a type of Christ on Calvary]. *Num.21:5-9.
The Word(s) of Echad Or God, speak for themselves. |
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---bob6749_[Elishama] on 9/25/05 |
Generational Blessings as well as generational curses are scriptural.
To keep or insure your generational blessings [Jn.3:14-21].
The antidote for generational curses are the same above scriptures [Gal.3:13].
YOUR CHOICE! |
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---bob6749_[Elishama] on 9/25/05 |
Darlene:I had a drinking problem early in life. No one in my family drank. Later learned that my dad who had left us when i was a few months old had become an alcoholic. My grandchildren have been born into an alcoholic home.I quit drinking before any of them were born. The alcoholic problem was not learned behavior! It was not monkey see-monkey do. A million dollars in the bank will do no good if you don't know it is there for you. knowledge of the curse being broken is what activates in in ones life. |
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---anita on 9/20/05 |
Generational curses are real and do not go away just by accepting Jesus as Lord and Savior. Surely, some of the Israelites in the desert repented along the way but God still made them all wander. To get a curse removed, you have to accept Jesus as Lord and then be extremely, consistently obedient to His will, not just lukewarm. It still may not happen in your lifetime, but your obedience may free your children from the curse. |
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---Scott_Thomason on 9/17/05 |
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Generational curses are different from the curse of the law because they are Nation, tribe family and person specific. Its like a spiritual genetic inheritance. They occur when an ancestor is cursed or does evil. When you see a praticular evil cycle pattern,it means the family has a generational curse to deal with and needs deliverance.The blood of Jesus Christ is sufficient |
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---Emmanuel on 9/1/05 |
"CHRIST redeemed us from the curse of the law ..." (Galatians 3:13)
Generational curses ARE curses therefore we are redeemed from them, Christ took away the curse. His blood paid the price for our freedom and "IF the Son sets you free, you shall be free indeed." (John 8:36) |
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---DoryLory on 8/24/05 |
Genrerational curses effect the unregenerate born of Adam, but not the redeemed born of Christ. Please read Jeremiah 31:29-34; Ezekiel 18; II Corinthians 5:17. |
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---Eloy on 8/23/05 |
Generational Cruses, OT ,not NT.God removed them, shown in Ezekiel 18:20,The soul that sinneth,it shall die,The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father,neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son;the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.What you see in families is learned behavior,monkey see-monkey do,not generational curses.Christians need to quit following OT beliefs/practices,they don't apply to NT Gentile Christians. |
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---Darlene1 on 8/23/05 |
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Generational Curses are a reality but can be broken. Ask the Lord for forgiveness, ask Him to deliver you, your family and the generations to follow from the curse that befell your ancestors. Ask Him to break the curse and send it to a barren desert bound and chained where it may do no one any harm ever again. Remove it as far from you as the east is from the west. Ask that the Lord return to you 100 fold what the devil has stolen. Ask the Lord to restore all that was stolen to you and you family. |
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---Erica on 8/23/05 |
We will all stand individually in front of CHRIST on judgement day,being accountable for our own sins,and not for what our family has done,if that is the case,we would have to go all the way back to our great,great,great granfather,ADAM...GOD is the only one who has the ability to bless our lives or to curse our lives,but there go i for the grace of GOD, |
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---calvin on 8/23/05 |
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