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Are Sinners Going To Hell

If someone has been saved and baptised, yet chooses to continue drinking and being permiscuous and then asking for forgiveness occasionally, is he on his way to hell?

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But Samuel, there is No hate about it.
I know Jesus in the Only salvation plan He has, Acts 2 v 38. Which are few peoples Mat.7 v 14. Lord has only One Church.

2nd.Cor.11 v 14 has churches in the 3 persons godhead relig organizations Rev.17 vs 4 5 6 which are many Mat.7 v 13, John 10 v 1, not all that says Lord Lord will enter heaven. <-- I'm glad Jesus saved me from that which is Not His.

Glory to God The Father which Is & who Is Jesus Christ.
---Lawrence on 2/22/15


Lawrence: You still haven't answered my questions:

Do you really believe that Jesus Christ was delusional when He prayed to His Father and spoke of sending the Comforter to us? Do you think that He was speaking with imaginary friends?

What's the problem? Are these questions too hard for you?



---jerry6593 on 2/22/15


But Lawrence you do not talk like you know Jesus. Your words are of hate and judgement of others. You refuse to discuss the Bible and offer nothing but vile attacks and insults.


Luke 6:37

Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:

You judge and condemn with hatred. You never speak of grace or love and forgiveness.

So how can you say you know Jesus when you do not act like, talk like or love like him?
---Samuelbb7 on 2/21/15


Samuel
I Have came to know Jesus. He saved me with The Only Salvation Plan He Has to offer, Acts 2 v 38, which are few peoples, Mat.7 v 14.

He Saved me from getting to messed up in that which is ( Not His. I used to go a bapt church ) Commandments doctrines of men the 3 persons godhead religion in Rev.17 Vs 4 5 6, Mat.7 v 13, John 10 v 1. The gates of hell which shall not prevail against the Acts Church of The Living God.

Glory to God The Father which Is & who Is Jesus Christ.
---Lawrence on 2/20/15


Lawrence. I feel sorry for you and pray that you come to know Jesus Christ. Love is the way of Christ.

Great quote and good point Lutherist.

Agape to all.
---Samuelbb7 on 2/20/15




Samuel
You should get off your many notes of diatribe. No matter what you & others in 3 persons godhead Rev.17 vs 4 5 6 John 10 v 1 which are many Mat.7 v 13 say against the Acts Church of The Living God which are few Mat.7 v 14, the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

Glory to God The Father which Is & who Is Jesus Christ.
---Lawrence on 2/20/15


Lawrence: You still haven't answered my questions:

Do you really believe that Jesus Christ was delusional when He prayed to His Father and spoke of sending the Comforter to us? Do you think that He was speaking with imaginary friends?



---jerry6593 on 2/20/15


Kyla,

Paul called ALL Believers, SAINTS.

"They're Saints, on the basis of the works of Christ, which they accept by faith. Such genuine Saints include EVERY Christian, if they first, declare complete and unconditional faith in Christ ALONE, and if in the second place, they do their duty in their calling and abstain from the desires and vices of the flesh for the sake of Christ.

However, they are not all of equal firmness of character, and many weaknesses and offenses are discernible in every one of them, it is also true that many of them fall into sin, but this does not hinder their holiness at all, so long as they sin out of their WEAKNESS, not out of deliberate WICKEDNESS."

Martin Luther
---Lutherist on 2/19/15


Lawrence You should get off your one note diatribe since you never answer scripture.


John 14:23-26

Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you.
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

Hell will destroy the wicked. Including those who attack others without cause.
---Samuelbb7 on 2/19/15


"Are Sinners Going To Hell?"

Since Adam's fall, sinners are born in hell & live daily in hell (separation from God) until such time as some "truly repent of sin" & come to believe in & receive Jesus Christ as Savior & Lord. Otherwise, they'll live forever in hell...
---Leon on 2/19/15




Jerry

Why should I get off the anti trinity kick, those that are Not of God, commandments doctrines of men, 3 persons godhead believers in Rev.17 vs 4 5 6, John 10 v 1, which are many Matt.7 v 13. Also the j witness, those that worship diff gods, atheist, agnostics, sexual perverts, etc. Which Is All part of the literal gates of hell shall not prevail against The Acts Church of The Living God.
Acts 2 v 38 Is In scripture as clear & plain as the nose on your face. I did Not have dig here & did Not have to dig there to find. That's what the trinity does to try to prove that which is Not using their Manmade Corrupt trinity literature. God has Nothing to do with.

Glory to God The Father which Is & who Is Jesus Christ.
---Lawrence on 2/19/15


Lawrence: "God The Father which who [sic] Is Jesus Christ"

You really should get off this anti-Trinitarian kick. And a little work on your grammar might help as well.

Do you really believe that Jesus Christ was delusional when He prayed to His Father and spoke of sending the Comforter to us? Do you think that He spoke with imaginary friends?

I realize that you may have a difference of opinion on this one subject, but state your case and move on.



---jerry6593 on 2/18/15


Yes sinners will be raised up in the last day and be cast in the lake of fire or hell where they die the second death.

The Bible is very clear we have a heaven to win and a hell to avoid.

That includes the many who think they are saved. Read Matthew 25
Agape.
---Samuelbb7 on 2/17/15


Jed

Act 2 v 38 the only salvation God gives, Rom.6 v 22.

For commandments doctrines of men 3 persons godhead belivers in Rev.17 vs 4 5 6, j witness, those that worship other dif gods, anything goes other etc, John 10 v 1. If people think sin will enter heaven, then they think satan will get to also. No So Thank God.

Glory to God The Father which Is & who Is Jesus Christ.
---Lawrence on 2/17/15


So Lawrence, how do you suppose you are getting into heaven? Are you without sin?
---Jed on 2/16/15


Sin will not enter heaven. Those that are drunkards, smokers with that Filthy stink, adulterers, fornicators, drug users, abusers of mankind, other lust & filthyness of the flesh. It's hell for those kind of people, & it's their choice. Sin was thrown out of heaven with satan. Sin will not enter back therein.

Glory to God The Father which Is & who Is Jesus Christ.
---Lawrence on 2/16/15


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John came neither eating nor drinking. Jesus came both eating and drinking. Noah got drunk, yet God thought well of him. I do not think he was habitually drunk as no drunkard is to be found in heaven. Samson had a story with women. Judah also. To a woman, Jesus said "Neither do I accuse you." Yet to another he says to stop sinning or something worse will happen to you. In truth, we are recognized by our fruit.
---sin on 10/11/14


Yep luke

Exactly what most trinity Rev.17 vs 4 5 6 people do with their theology n ideology to prove that which is Not, twist scripture around to fit their Deceiving cause.

Scripture says there is no healing medicine, right just what it means, there is None. If you take an aspirin for some relief, God allows it to help.
If a doctor does good, it's because God allowed. It's Not the doctor, him or herself.

Glory to God The Father which who Is Jesus Christ.
---Lawrence on 10/10/14


//No healing med. Jer. 30 v 13, 46 v 11. If there is pain relief etc, God allows it to be.//

Lawrence,
the passage is talking about those whom God is going to chastise, they will receive no medicines. He was not saying that people at any time should not use medicines. So easy you turn passages around and change the meaning. You sound to me like a legalist. A corollary article of legalism is the adherence to the letter of the law to the exclusion of the Spirit of the law. When people like you make rules more strict than God Himself does, you do it at the expense of the Spirit of the Law. Pharisees come to mine.
---Luke on 9/24/14


Being hateful and full of hate is also a sin.

1Corithians 10:31
Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.

All sins can be forgiven.
---Samuelbb7 on 9/22/14


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"BTW, Lawrence, I asked you for specific BCV where it says that smoking is a sin and you didn't answer the question. Or are you unable to do so? Cluny."

Cluny, your bullying becomes crazier as each day passes. Why ask for (demand) bible verses to discuss things which did not exist at the time the bible was written?

Take a look at 1 Corinthians 6:19 and 2 Corinthians 6:16.

Why would we wish to pollute the temple of God?

Sexual immorality is just ONE of many ways of polluting our body. Alcohol, drugs, gluttony, body piercings etc. all pollute the body - God does not need to spell each one out for us. HE expects us to use common sense as well as rules.
---Rita_H on 9/22/14


It seems strange that some Christians are concerned about the "sins" of smoking and drinking while asserting their license to break the Ten Commandment Law that defines sin. Just saying....


---jerry6593 on 9/22/14


Cluny: 'BCV where it says that smoking is a sin'

Obviously the Bible will not say it, as smoking was not known then.

One COULD say that unhealthy habits could be classed as sinful.......

probably

But HOW UNHEALTHY does a habit have to be for it to be a sin?

I can't answer that!
---Peter on 9/21/14


Lawrence is beginning to make more sense to me. Keep up the good teaching, Lawrence.
---learner2 on 9/21/14


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Glory to Jesus Christ cluny rapture isn't found either, but sin is sin and smoking Is still filthiness of the flesh. Smoke with its Gross stink. Sounds like your saying it's ok, sin will Not enter heaven, if so then the devil would still be there. Well, the harlot trinity Rev. 17 vs 4 5 6 peoples are savedkept in their sins, not from their sins. Which Are many, Matt.7 v 13, destruction hell and the lake of fire.

Glory to God The Father which who Is Jesus Christ.
---Lawrence on 9/21/14


Lawrence on 9/20/14: I think you must have mis-quoted the verse for alcohol - 2nd. Cor.7 v 1. is not about alcohol, you may mean Eph 5:18 (this is about getting drunk, not just drinking alcohol).

But then there is 1 Tim 5:23, where Timothy is actually advised to have 'a little wine' - not to get drunk, but that he can have a little.

So I would assume 'some wine' is OK, but there is a limit

As a result, the question for the blog 'continue drinking' - you must ask, 'drinking HOW MUCH?'
---Peter on 9/21/14


Rita, okay, fair enough. Thanks.
---learner2 on 9/20/14


"Rita, that may be true, but does a person have to have a healthy lifestyle in order to be saved?"

No, Learner 2, the person is saved and THEN begins to start the process (with God's help) of getting their life in order. Ceasing bad habits and terrible lifestyles takes time, more for some than others. We are all 'a work in progress' and will continue to be so until we die.
---Rita_H on 9/20/14


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BTW, Lawrence, I asked you for specific BCV where it says that smoking is a sin and you didn't answer the question.

Or are you unable to do so?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/20/14


\\cluny

I used to smoke n it's a Gross n Filthy stink.\\

If you were truly free of tobacco, you wouldn't care if anyone else used it or not.

I've met too many people like you. One was a former dope fiend who said that people shouldn't even drink coffee.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/20/14


When someone has been wonderfully saved and truly understands what Jesus went through on the cross to take upon Himself THEIR punishment for sin, that person would not wish to continue in the life they lead before their conversion. We all slip back occasionally in various ways (and many Christians take alcohol in moderation) but abusing alcohol and particularly being promiscuous does now sound like a person who was SAVED but a person who had an emotional experience long ago and was TOLD (probably by a counsellor) that they were saved.

Sin should cause us to grieve and to get right with God immediately (not offer an occasional confession to just 'keep in with God'.
---Rita_H on 9/20/14


cluny

I used to smoke n it's a Gross n Filthy stink. The stink in peoples hair clothes mouth etc.
Alcohol is another gross odor. 2nd. Cor.7 v 1.

No healing med. Jer. 30 v 13, 46 v 11. If there is pain relief etc, God allows it to be.
---Lawrence on 9/20/14


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Jesus says that it is not what goes into the mouth that defiles someone, but what comes out of the mouth. (Matthew 15:11)
---learner2 on 9/19/14


sammuel

1st Cor. 6 vs 9 n 10, Gal. 5 v 21, Eph. 5 v 5.
---Lawrence on 9/19/14


I do not totally disagree with you Lawrence. It is just that all people grown in Grace and must start somewhere. We must not judge others.

1John 2:3-6

And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
---Samuelbb7 on 9/19/14


Rita, that may be true, but does a person have to have a healthy lifestyle in order to be saved?
---learner2 on 9/19/14


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I believe that God DOES desire that we lead a healthy lifestyle. The body He gave us should be taken care of and I believe that we grieve God when we put substances into it which do harm and do no good whatsoever.
---Rita_H on 9/19/14


Lawrence, please give book, chapter, and verse where the Bible says that smoking is a sin. (I don't have a dog in this hunt as I don't smoke.)

Did you know that tobacco was used to make the medicine that healed the two American medical missionaries who caught Ebola?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/19/14


What does that use or non-use of tobacco have to do with following Jesus? Is a healthy lifestyle required for salvation?
---learner2 on 9/19/14


sammuel, agape

To be Rightly saved, following Jesus is leaving sins, adultery
drunkeness idol worship cursing fornication smoking etc sins Alone. Such will Not enter heaven just like scripture says.
---Lawrence on 9/19/14


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GOD can save anyone.

But to be saved means to follow JESUS. A person who says they are saved and refuses to follow JESUS may not be truly saved.

We cannot judge the heart but we can say by their fruits there could be a problem.

Agape.
---Samuelbb7 on 9/19/14


Lawrence, are you saying that God is unable to save people who smoke or chew tobacco? Is God that weak?
---learner2 on 9/18/14


Yes, hell bound.

The woman caught in adultery, Jesus said to her, go and sin no more. He didn't take n pat her hand to say, your ok with your adultery etc sins.
He said, go and sin no more.
1st Cor.6 vs 9 n 10, includes smokers, chewers, others etc.
---Lawrence on 9/18/14


Hello Guys, will you show me verse in the Bible that explicitly condemn drinking wine. I think the reason why many evangelical movement prohibit drinking wine is because of the sin that those drunkards are doing when they in the spirit of alcoholism and not on the wine that the people sin. If a man can control himself i think there is no basis to condemn. However, I think there is no such as moderate drinking, it always falls to drunkenness.
---jude on 1/19/08


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Another good one. The answer is YES. Remember, when a person is truly saved God now lives in him. Jesus convicts. That should answer your question. And true repentance means also turning away from. NO SAVED PERSON is going to habitually continue to live in SIN.
---catherine on 1/16/08


You guys are confusing, let me see if I got this striaght. There is eternal hell, but Christ did away with sin, what is hell for then? If we are born again, we cannot fall away from God, but we can sin, but don't need to ask forgiveness from God because He already forgave us? Drinking is a sin, but there is no sin? The law was done away with, oh wait only one commandment was, right? All we need is love? No wonder churches are empty, there are no answers.
---dan on 1/16/08


I think for me. It is unethical to judge others most especially to condemn others destiny. And I think the judgment is God's discretion where in we ourselves are subject to it. However in response with that question I think, there is no where in the Bible that explicitly tell us that those who are drinking are going to hell. However I think it is more descent to see Christians who are not drunkards
---jude on 1/16/08


Kyla::No matter how much we Judge others by their actions, Only God Knows a Persons true Heart & He ALONE has the authority to send people to hell, although we know its The persons refusal to accept God & the precepts of God, that causes the person to comdemn themselves WILLINGLY.
---Emcee on 1/15/08


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Before we condemn them to hell. There is a little problem. In Ephesians 4:30 Scripture says,"And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption." Does grieving the Holy Spirit cost you your salvation? Scripture does not say WERE sealed but ARE sealed. Who can break the seal of God? Exactly where is that found in the Bible?
---Mima on 1/15/08


How to be saved is within the reach of every human being on the face of the earth. When Jesus Christ died on the cross, He provided salvation for all. And when I am lifted up on the cross, I will draw everyone to myself. He said this to indicate how he was going to die (John 12:32-33). Salvation has been provided, it now must be accepted. Once a man or woman recognizes the need for salvation and realizes that God has provided for their salvation through Jesus Christ, he or she must go on to embrace it.
---lisa on 1/15/08


Absolutely, that person is on their way to Hell. If someone is truly Born Again, which you have to be in order to escape Hell and enter into Heaven, then that person would not continue in sin. AT LEAST, not without CONVICTION by the Holy Spirit (SHKHINYAH). A Saved person learns to HATE SIN and things against GOD's Nature. And learns to LOVE GOD's Ways, at least in PROCESS. A life of sinfulness without any conviction of doing wrong, shows that the Holy Spirit is NOT IN THEM.
---Gordon on 1/15/08


We are all sinners in need of a savior..or did you forget?
so accept Jesus and be saved.
Reject Jesus and go to hell
---lisa on 1/15/08


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Jesus did away with sin, that was HIS purpose. The issue is, Do we have faith in HIM.
---duane on 1/14/08


Kyla: Yes that person will be lost. There is no Yo-Yo "game playing" with salvation. Let him/her read in the Bible that the Lord prefers that we be hot or cold than lukewarm.
Those who insist to be lukewarm, make Him throw up. That's pretty bad!
---Pierr7958 on 1/14/08


No one knows our hearts except God and He says it is desperately wicked, so you really don't know if your friend was really saved or not. If he was, then the Holy Spirit is dealing with his sin and that is making him feel guilty. I have been where your friend is now and I know I was saved. I am thankful God didn't kill me.(kill the flesh to save the spirit)
---shira_5965 on 4/16/07


Sounds like he/she is "playing at religion" rather than experiencing it. While we Christians are not to judge non-Christians, we are told to be "fruit inspectors" of Christians. If he's not "producing spritual fruit", he may not be a Christian at all - just a little religious. You might point this out to him/her.
---WIVV on 2/27/06


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Jer.17:9-10.
---bob6749_[Elishama] on 9/18/05


Kyle, I answered yes but on the believe that there would be a change in the person if Christ lives in Him, but you are so right in saying that we are saved by grace through faith, not by works and that is something we have to be careful when we do answer this kind of questions, and yes, God is the only one that can judge who will make it in and who won't.
---lupe2618 on 8/30/05


I have a question, Jerry. In plain English, what is it you are trying to say about the topic? I can't tell if you are saying that you are sinless, whether you understand that Jesus nailed the law to the cross, or if Gal 2:21 is for today. I don't mean to be contentious, but have you heard about the new covenant or Rm 5:1? Does Jesus have anything to do with this situation? Just some things to think about.
---sam7944 on 8/28/05


1Jo 3:4 "Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law." Jam 2:10 "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all." Jam 2:12 "So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty. Eze 18:20 "The soul that sinneth, it shall die." Any questions?
---Jerry on 8/27/05


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Thanks, Eloy. We don't always agree, but I like you too. God bless.
---Ann5758 on 8/27/05


Good news: Your sins are not what send you to hell! God never intended for any of His children to go there. If you are reborn from incorruptable seed, (believe in Jesus) just as Jesus was the firstborn among many, you change from the kingdom of darkness to the kingdom of light. Did the lamb of God take away the sins of the world or not? Unbelief is the only sin that leaves you born of the seed of Adam and only those who believe upon Jesus are born again from the seed of God.
---sam7944 on 8/26/05


It is the Word of God that judges all people.If a person's life doesn't line up with that Word then they can't be God's child.Just as an earthly child wants to please her father so does a true child of God.Sin isn't pleasing to God.Ralph better look at yourself because even when it's Bible being given you are judging those who give it.Read fruit as behavior and yes the thief had good fruit at that moment he accepted Christ.
---Darlene_1 on 8/25/05


Did the thief on the cross bring forth good fruit or evil fruit? We could all make better use of our time if we stopped speculating on who is headed for hell and who is bound for heaven. There are phonies who have everybody fooled and there are genuine people who are overlooked. I say for the last time, let God be the judge.
---ralph7477 on 8/24/05


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Matthew7:17-21 Paraphraised;every good tree brings forth good fruit,corrupt tree brings forth evil fruit.good tree can't bring forth evil fruit or evil tree good.tree that doesn't bring forth good fruit hewn down cast into fire."Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them." Not every one that saith Lord Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven;but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.No need to judge, person is judged by their own fruits.
---Darlene_1 on 8/24/05


If a person gets saved and baptised and is on fire for God, then something happens down the road that makes that person fall away from God, that person plucked themselves out of God's hand and therefore will be going to hell if he/she doesn't repent before it is to late.
---Rebecca_D on 8/24/05


If a person accepts Christ and chooses to continue in his old way of life, he is taking dangerous chances because the bible says in Genesis chapter 6 verse 3 "And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man...". No one knows when God will turn his face away from him / her. Therefore if someone knows right from wrong and chooses to do what is wrong, there is no excuse for presumptious sinning. However God has the final say on whether a person goes to hell or not.
---marja on 8/24/05


Rebecca, I did not answer "no". Only God knows who truly belongs to Him. It appears that several people need to take a class in Salvation 101 or consult a bible that contains John 3:16. It's by God's grace that we are saved, not by works, lest anyone should boast. It would be wise to leave the judging up to God.
---ralph7477 on 8/24/05


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Ann, i like you.
---Eloy on 8/24/05


Shame on them for saying "Yes", shame on you for saying no. If they are still living their old lifestyle, then something is wrong, they didn't get ahold of God, because if they did, they wouldn't want to do these things. A person can't flirt with the devil and expect to go to heaven with Jesus.
---Rebecca_D on 8/23/05


Yes. A person cannot serve 2 masters and has to make a decision. It is either Christ or the world. If man serves both, God will spew him out of His mouth. You can't be a "mugwump" (that's a bird who sits on the fence with his mug on one side & his wump on the other)
---Ann5758 on 8/23/05


Shame on all of you who answered "yes". Are we not saved by faith, rather than works? By putting our faith in Jesus, He washes away all our sins, past, present and future. While a person's character is evident through their behavior, the heart is only known by God.
---ralph7477 on 8/23/05


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yes, either make the tree good and its fruit good, or make the tree evil and its fruit evil, for a tree is known by the fruit it bears. Noone can serve two masters. "And now also the ax is laid onto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which brings not forward good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. If a man stays not in me, he is put forward as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and throw into the fire, and they are burned." Matthew 3:10; John 15:6.
---Eloy on 8/23/05


Kyla
we all know right from wrong, dont we ? even children know this, and some people get saved for the wrong reasons most do ,just to miss going to hell but on judgement day many that call themselves Christians are going to be sadly mistaken when Jesus says "Depart from me you workers of eniquity i know you not" God is a just God but he hates sin.
---lea on 8/23/05


Kyle, my answer is yes, if you are continuing to live as before, your commitment to God was false. You should be walking forward, towards Christ, Not backwards. Sorry, but you have to make a true commitment. It has to come from your heart and there must be repentance.
---lupe2618 on 8/23/05


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