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Is Robert Schuller A Christian

I have just been watching a preacher on T.V. (here in U.K.) His name is Robert Schuller from the Crystal Cathedral, California. Does anyone know anything about him? He didn't seem to have much of a message.

Moderator - His message is a New Age message. The major becomes self helps versus Jesus Christ.

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"I don't think anything has been done in the name of Christ & under the banner of Chjristianity that has proven more destructive to human personality &, hence, counterproductive to the evangelism enterprise than the often crude, uncouth, & unchristian strategy of attempting to make people aware of their lost & sinful condition." (Robert Schuller, Christianity Today, Oct. 5, 1984)

Schuller's statement diametrically opposes 1 Tim 1:15 & Luke 5:32.
---Leon on 2/23/08


Robert Schueller is almost likely not even saved. He preaches and teaches a false self-help message. Many are fooled by him.
---Helen_5378 on 7/17/07


How does this statement," - The Catholic Church teaches that there are 7 sacraments in the church that are required for salvation: Baptism, Confirmation, Eucharist, Penance, Anointing of the sick, Holy Orders and Matrimony." Match up with what Paul told the jailer, who said,"Sirs, what must I do to be saved?"
"And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house."
---mima on 7/17/07


When speaking of Dr.Schuller I do not want to be guilty of making a statement similar to this,"He is a wonderful Christian man with a wonderful Christian family. He has dedicated his life to his Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ." His is a self-help spineless message. Perhaps this is best evidenced by his great appeal to the masses.
---Mima on 7/17/07


At this moment, Robert Shuller preaches on the surface messages. I fall a sleep listening to him. I like to go deep. His messages are often unconfrontational and can be tolerated by the world.
---Marcia on 7/17/07




I wanted to make a comment in regards to Dr. Schuller from Crystal Cathedral. He is a wonderful Christian man with a wonderful Christian family. He has dedicated his life to his Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. I live in New York and traveled by car all the way to California just to attend his church. When I was in the church, I definitely felt the Holy Spirit there. It was wonderful, and I will never forget it.

Moderator - Please remember the message is a different gospel then in the Bible.
---Joanie on 7/17/07


Many years ago I watched Robert Schuller, was intrigued by the drive-in-theatre ministry, gave to support the ministry, received some nice gifts (such as Christian jewelry), and gave for the new Crystal Cathedral. It took me years to realize it was a "feel good message" only. He had some judgment in his life as a wake-up call. I won't judge. But I "left" that ministry years ago.
---Darlene on 9/27/05


Tina,

I will be on vacation here shortly and we can open up the new blog next week. Blessings!
---Moderator on 9/1/05


We don't need a catechism, all we need is the bible. I used to be catholic and now I know better. A catechism has some truth and a lot of lies. When I was in catholic school I excelled in catechism. too bad it was a waste. Why would I want to be pulled back into satan's lies again? Tina, please don't infect the blogs with useless info.
---Richard on 9/1/05


Dear Moderator,

What does it mean when you say, "The Holy Spirit convicts and leads us to do things of God"?

Moderator - Let one of us open a new blog with a more appropriate title so others can more easily follow because we both have gone off of the original title of this blog. This will be the last posting to this blog from either of us.
---Tina5349 on 8/31/05




"Whoever, therefore, trusts that by works he merits grace, despises the merit and grace of Christ, and seeks a way to God without Christ, by human strength" (Trig. p 54, 10). Good works do nothing to improve our position with God. Rather they flow freely from faith

"Also they teach that this faith is bound to bring forth good fruits" (Trig. p 45, VI:1). Good works are a fruit of faith, a sign of sanctified life.

Moderator - I agree good works will follow one who has accepted Christ.
---Tina5349 on 8/31/05


Indeed, "**Our** works cannot reconcile God or merit forgiveness of sins, grace, and justification, but...we obtain this only by faith when we believe that we are received into favor for Christ's sake, who alone has been set forth the Mediator and Propitiation."AC(Trig. p 53, XX:9).

What is your definition of a Sacrament?

Moderator - The Catholic Church teaches that there are 7 sacraments in the church that are required for salvation: Baptism, Confirmation, Eucharist, Penance, Anointing of the sick, Holy Orders and Matrimony. Christians teach that believing and accepting Christ into our life for salvation.
---Tina5349 on 8/31/05


Dear Moderator,

BTW, I am in total agreement with your statement here.

"Christ is the only way to salvation - any other way is a trick of the enemy."

Moderator - Would you also agree that any works or sacraments can't get us to heaven? However, once we have accepted Christ good works and good fruit must follow otherwise we have had a questionable salvation.
---Tina5349 on 8/31/05


This is good news! I'm happy to hear you agree that the core of Luther's Small Catechism is in agreement with scripture. Does that include the explanation of the 3rd article of the Creed? "I believe that I cannot by my own reason or strength believe in Jesus Christ, my Lord, or come to Him; but the Holy Ghost has called me by the Gospel, enlightened me with His gifts, sanctified and kept me in the true faith;..."

Moderator - The Holy Spirit convicts and leads us to do things of God. The flesh pulls us away from God.
---Tina5349 on 8/31/05


paullette
we can only judge the man by his actions the cc has the creation story a live play but the play refuses to say GOD is the creator it says the creative force. why would a man of the word use a new age metafore?
---willow on 8/31/05


BTW Lutherans are not cannibals. We believe Christ's body and blood are truly present and truly eaten, but in a supernatural or sacramental way. We do not attempt to explain how God can do it. We simply believe that He can and does do it. Do you believe that anything is impossible for God?

Moderator - Please read all of John Chapter 6 to get the full meaning. Verses 33-35 state we must believe in Jesus to have everlasting life. This understanding lines up with the rest of the NT teaching. NT teaching is very clear that we must believe in Christ for our salvation. Christ is the only way to salvation - any other way is a trick of the enemy.
---Tina5349 on 8/30/05


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Would you say that the core of the Small Catechism, namely the 10 Commandments, the Creed, and the Lord's Prayer, with their questions and answers are in agreement with Holy Scripture?

Moderator - Yes, these specific items are core to any Christian doctrine with possible slightly different understanding amoung various churches.
---Tina5349 on 8/30/05


Dear Moderator,

Thank you for your reply. Although Baptism, Confession and Absolution, and the Sacrament of the Altar are all articles of faith that I would truly love to discuss in more depth with you, this may be beyond the scope of this forum. I was hoping to stick to the core of the catechism, namely, the 10 Commandments, the Apostles Creed, and the Lords Prayer with their questions and answers.

Moderator - The articles of faith that you mention as core I would agree are core statements of faith regardless of the denomination or church. The understandings may differ slightly, but are still core doctrines.
---Tina5349 on 8/30/05


Tina,

I respectively disagree with 3 major points that I just finished reading on Luther. I believe the scripture teaches the following: 1. Baptism is an act of obedience not salvation 2. Only Jesus forgives our sins not a Priest or Reverend and 3. Sacrament of the Alter makes a mockery of Christ's work on the cross. Christians aren't cannibels.

I believe Christians should be baptised, should confess their sins and should take communion. However, not with the same meaning as Luther describes.
---Moderator on 8/30/05


Dear Moderator,

I appreciate your time and effort. The core of the Small Catechism is the 10 Commandments, the Apostle's Creed, and the Lord's Prayer with questions and answers. Are you in agreement with the core of the Small Catechism? Or do you believe that it in any way contradicts scripture?

Moderator - 10 Commandments and Apostle's Creed yes. I didn't read his Lord's Prayer comments yet so I don't know. I don't know Luther enough to know the meaning he is placing on the Eucharist, therefore I can't make an intelligent comment.
---Tina5349 on 8/30/05


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Robert Schuller is indeed New Age. Even the name of the building "Crystal Cathedral" is new agey as crystals are used extensively in the new age movement. It's a California thing! Don't drive anywhere just to see a man. Wake up with Jesus every day!!!!
---Sally on 8/30/05


Tina,

I took a brief look at his material. It's looks like at a big picture putting aside any detailed theology that he was concerned for the common people and their faith. He wanted to make sure that the typical Christian met some basic Christian requirements.

From that big picture, I would I agree. If we call ourselves Christians, we better have some basic understandings and practice of the faith.

Did you have something more specific that you wanted to bring out?
---Moderator on 8/30/05


Dear Moderator,

Thanks for your consideration! :)
---Tina5349 on 8/29/05


Dear Moderator,

You can find Luther's Small Catechism on line. Don't be afraid. It's not long. May be interesting to discuss your perception of it, and find out where and how you believe it contradicts scripture. Come on...be bold.

Moderator - OK, I will be put to work :)
---Tina5349 on 8/29/05


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Simple answer, read Galatians1:6-9, where Paul says that even if he or anyone else, even an angel, preach any other gospel unto you than that preached in Scripture, let them be accursed.
---tommy3007 on 8/29/05


Dear Moderator,

You said, "Christians should base their life on the scriptures; not a person, not a church and not their feelings."

Do me a favor. Carefully examine Luther's Small Catechism. Then show me where and how it contradicts scripture.

Moderator - I don't follow Luther, therefore I have no idea some of the things that he taught. My understanding is that Luther was both Catholic and Protestant, therefore having different views at different times. Not knowing his history, I don't dare make guesses at what he says at which times and his meaning of the words. I stick to the scriptures.
---Tina5349 on 8/29/05


Joanie what you feel is what you get, what the Bible teaches is what you need.
The Positive Thinking Message is not the Gospel of Christ.
---Elder on 8/28/05


Dear Moderator,

I agree with you 100%! :) What does this tell us about basing our salvation, (or anything for that matter), upon our feelings, or upon our decision to "accept" Christ?

Moderator - Christians should base their life on the scriptures; not a person, not a church and not their feelings.
---Tina5349 on 8/28/05


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A wolf in sheep's clothing. His message is more New Age as Mike points out. Its like a dog and pony show IMHO at the Crystal Cathedral, you even need tickets to get in!
---NVBarbara on 8/28/05


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