No,not unless you want either one of them to know. That is between your family & God. Usually I forget the envelopes& just drop my amount in the basket as annomyous,God knows how much we give. |
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---candice on 4/1/08 |
What you give should be between you and God. Unless you make a pledge or give a special offering. Even that does not have to be broadcast. We do not have to let anyone know what we are giving. God already knows and that is good enough. |
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---Robyn on 8/14/07 |
Why should even the church book keeper know what you give? No-one should know. We are told to give in secret. |
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---RitaH on 8/14/07 |
Only the bookkeeper. No way should the pastor know. The pastor can not remain objective if he knows. (Even if he thinks he can.) |
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---WIVV on 8/14/07 |
No a pastor should never know it puts him in an awkward position |
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---amy on 1/22/06 |
How much tithe to give Church percent wise? |
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---Sue on 10/17/05 |
We live in the New Covenant. Giving is what is important. It is not about how much but what God leads. He blesses you no matter if you do or dont. His love is unconditional. The organized Church misrepresents and mixes old covenant with new in order to control people and that is witchcraft friends. They make fellowships bussinesses and pastors Kings instead of Servants. |
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---Dennis on 10/9/05 |
Oh my John really and I thought the church calling out the amount of money was bad. I guess there are worse then even that.. Seems like it was all for mens eyes and not God. I also love to give and don't think anyone but God needs to know how much. |
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---judit4846 on 9/13/05 |
Yes that is exactly what I'm saying the pastor called out all who has 100 for collection come to the front and place in the offering plate then he went to 50, then 20. Being sure to wait until all who had put in the amt called first had sat down. |
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---judit4846 on 9/13/05 |
Have you ever heard of a church that has an array of trumpeters on each side of the isle, and every time someone gives a large amount, they blow the trumpets loud?
Or the guy in church that waves a $100 dollar bill around before he drops it in the basket?
Or the TV preacher who passes around his Rolex watch to the congregation so he can brag and gloat? I won't mention his name but I saw this. |
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---John on 9/11/05 |
We should always give to God, and I believe not just 10% all the time. There is nothing wrong with giving God extra when we can. Believe me, you can't out give God! He will make a way to bless you. I LOVE giving to God, it's a true joy! Do you really think that tithes and offerings are abolished since Jesus came in the flesh? We should give even more because we are now free in Christ.
A Pastor does not have to know what I give, only God has to know. Unless someone wants to blow their own horn. |
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---John on 9/11/05 |
Judith can you clarify what you just told us please? Are you saying that you were all called down to the front of the church according to the amounts you were giving - those giving high amounts first, down to those giving small amounts last? I'm really finding this hard to grasp. If I have understood correctly it is absolutely disgusting. The leadership there needs a lesson about the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing, and a lot more besides I think.
Moderator - Very common practice in Word of Faith churches. It is used to put pressure on the congregation to give more money regardless of the cause. |
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---M.A. on 9/11/05 |
titheing is not commanded in the N.T. |
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---Eloy on 9/11/05 |
I went to a church that does a count down starting from 100, 50, 20, 10, to 5 then anything less. I didn't like that and even though I had more I went up when they said change. I thought that to seem rude and pokey. I was told this was the norm there. I think it is between you and God. Sometimes I would donate my tithes and give offering at the church(a different one) |
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---Judith on 9/10/05 |
Barbara, How much does he make though? If it's a small congregation than maybe he's just making it. After all we give the Lord 10% at least, and we keep about 90% or less. |
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---Jack on 9/10/05 |
Well, what do you all think about pastors who recieves all of the tithes every week plus the second and fourth sunday offering, twenty percent out of the church offering(the other two sundays) wednesday, and friday night offerings, and 20 percent out of any other offerings that is for the church? |
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---barbara on 9/9/05 |
Part 2. The Pastor started talking bad about us (false rumors), and when he gave his sermon and got to a negative part, he would point his finger to us. The leadership started to treat us with disdain. We left that church. That was 8 years ago. My wife has not been back to church here since. |
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---John on 9/8/05 |
Part 1. This is a true story. 10 years ago when we first moved to Mooresville NC we joined a church and tithed regularly. The Pastor and the leadership treated us wonderfully! One day the Lord spoke to my heart AND my wife's heart to continue to pay our tithes but this time not to put our name on the envelope anymore. In fact we were giving even more with joy! Boy did things change! We were treated like 3rd class after that. |
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---John on 9/8/05 |
I had a friend who was a member of a church that gave her an assignment to call members and ask for their tithes (maybe they had not been in church in a while or perhaps not giving 10%). I told her I had never heard of this, but if someone called me and asked for tithes, I would quickly find another church. I willingly,lovingly give cash in the offering plate, the amount is between me and God. I also try to help my church in other ways that don't require money. |
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---Jane on 9/8/05 |
My friend attends a church where offerings are put in a numbered envelope. These numbers identify the giver and this information is used at the end of every year for publication in the church magazine. However they do not just list the persons number and amount given, they list the people by name and show the amount each has given. My friend hates it but stays. I would not attend a church that did that. |
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---Xanthi on 9/8/05 |
Any pastor who needs to know who gives what has less than honorable motivation. As treasurer for my church I am required to keep records because people want tax deductions. The pastor has never shown any interest in knowing who gives what and if I had my way I would rather not know how much people give either. It feels a bit awkward. |
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---ralph7477 on 9/7/05 |
I am a bookkeeper for the church and the pastor requested to see the members' tithe. What is his motivation? Our chursh has no debt. |
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---Sue on 9/7/05 |
No one but the church treasure or bookkeeper should know what you tithe or give. We put our offering in an envelope with our assigned number. No name, so it's unidentifiable except to the bookkeeper. Our church keeps record for tax purposes and gives us a statement at the end of the year. Our pastor said he doesn't want to know what anyone gives as that is between God and the individual. A Good and Godly policy.
PS....We're Southern Baptist. |
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---tither on 9/7/05 |
I do not believe that EVEN THE BOOK=KEEPER should know. I think that all our giving should be anonymous and I drop in what I want as secretively as I can. Many give in envelopes that are numbered so the church treasurer knows who gave what but I don't like that idea at all. |
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---Xanthi on 9/7/05 |
Are you Jewish? Israel was required to give 10% of what they own, why? Cause 11 of the tribes, God gave them land, the 12th, God made to become the Priests to minister to the rest. Tithe was to help support and feed the priests, so they could focus on ministering to the nation. What did Jesus tell the rich man about having eternal life? God did not tell the Gentiles to tithe, but God loves a cheerful giver. |
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---geraa7578 on 9/7/05 |
I once heard a preacher say "If you come to me for help, I will look to see if you have tithed". What an arrogant statement a supposedly man of God to say. I tithe on everything I make, but I put it in the offering plate and not in an envelope with my name on it. God knows and that is what is important. I guess the bookeeper don't know the truth. |
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---shira_5965 on 9/7/05 |
But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:
That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly. Matthew 6:3-4
Only God should know. |
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---Pharisee on 9/7/05 |
If the pastor asks to go through the records, it's okay because he is the leader and has the right to go through the church's records. Otherwise it's not necessary to let him know the amount you give as tithe. It's normal for the bookkeeper to be aware because he keeps the record. If you give millions or thousands as tithe, it's only God who knows if you're actually giving 10% or less of your income. |
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---Debba7385 on 9/7/05 |
As a general rule only the treasurer and assistant should know that info UNLESS there is a major financial emergency and the church budget is seriously underfunded amd the church is unable to pay its bills. |
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---pierr7958 on 9/7/05 |
No, the bible says that.. your left hand should not know what your right hand is doing(giving) Matthew 6:3
If they know, there is a possibility that they will judge you accordingly. More money, better treatment, less money, lesser treatment.
God Bless you |
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---Beulah on 9/7/05 |
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