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Can anyone point me to verses in the bible that refer to things of science/technology/engineering/etc etc that have since proven to be correct by modern standards?

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The Old Testament states that 'the earth hangs on nothing' but people then thought it was held up by something. We now know that the earth is in space and not hanging on to or being held up by anything. Galaxies of stars are described in a way that scientists did not understand until about 50 or 60 years ago and so we could go on. God got it right from the beginning. Science has a lot of catching up to do.
---Xanthi on 12/18/07


I will give references later. The Israelites in the wilderness were given very specific laws about health and hygeine, the reasons for which have only become fully understood by doctors in the last century or so. The Old Testament states that the earth is a sphere, at a time when people thought it was flat, so Hebrew scholars changed the Hebrew word Khug (sphere) and made it read that the earth was a circle. We now know that it is indeed a sphere but our English translations still do not say that.
---Xanthi on 4/20/07


if that last part is correct bout KJB, mike, what difference would that make?
---r.w. on 9/7/06


Archaeology confirms the details of the Bible.
1/ Pharoah is a genuine title of the king of Egypt, started being used about the time of Joseph.
2/ Potifar is an Egyptian name, more likely to have been Ptahifer.
3/ Moses is an Egyptian name, unchanged, which means "to come forth, or to be brought forth".
Imprtant fact: when the KJV was translated, no one could read hieroglyphics for nearly 1200 years.
---mike6553 on 10/14/05


Thank you Daniel, for this item in your answer. It took the most senior in our department to discuss this thing again. But being scientific persons we don't close our doors to the products and results of our own effort. We still hope to discover "graviton". If not, we can change the "model" of our thinking about "nature".
---bebet3754 on 9/24/05




(Cont.)Brownout hit us, thus the delay. The 'anti-gravity' that Daniel was pointing out came from "antigraviton", the antiparticle or anti-matter of "graviton". Graviton, being a hypothetical particle, whose existence would unite all laws of physics into a unified whole, is a physicist dream.
---bebet3754 on 9/24/05


(Cont.#2)The anti-gravity that the layman understood, and achieved (that I have just said as "word coined") is not one and the same concept that Daniel wanted to point out. I wanted to make a correction then in the post that I said the "anti-gravity devices that Daniel..".
---bebet3754 on 9/23/05


Phil, I wish to add some information regarding the discussion I had with Daniel in my earlier post 9/19/05. I said to him that "anti-gravity may just be another name coined similar to that of 'maglev' or magnetic levitation". The bullet trains in Japan are really Maglevs because these trains levitate due to the magnetic fields. The "anti-gravity devices" that some people claimed simply makes one not to "fall to the ground"to mean "defying the earth's pull".
---Bebet3754 on 9/23/05


Becky, I don't think sound could be found inside an atom. Sound travels in air. If there is no air, then there would be no MEDIUM for sound waves to travel through. Air molecules are bigger than an atom. It means that air molecules could NEVER BE FOUND INSIDE an atom, thus there is NEVER A POSSIBILITY that sound could be found inside the atom!
---rodaa5457 on 9/23/05


Thank you, Xanthi, for the answer and for the information. Have a good day!
---bebet3754 on 9/21/05




cont'd .. but 'when the bible was translated from the original Hebrew at a time when people thought the earth was flat they changed the word from sphere to circle'. There was no Hebrew word for circle put in, I got that bit wrong probably because it is quite some time since I watched it. Otherwise I told it more or less as I'd heard it. Whether you agree with this snippet or not it is a fascinating video and well worth watching.
---Xanthi on 9/21/05


Daniel and Bebet, I have found the video, it is called 'Thy Word Is Truth' and the speaker is Peter Sparrow who has close connections with Answers in Genesis from whom I bought the video. I don't think I can add much to what I've already said. I've watched the video again and Peter Sparrow says that (regarding the circle of the earth) the original word was khug which he says means sphere... cont'd
---Xanthi on 9/21/05


Xanthi: I think you must have misunderstood something/someone. 'Khug' is the ONLY Hebrew word I know of ever being in the accepted Masoretic/BHS texts of Isaiah 40:22, Job 26:10, Prov 8:27. It can mean 'Vault, Horizon, Circle, draw a circle'. The words in the context of these verses certainly implies a spherical earth! If you find a different Hebrew word in some other text, it might be 'agol' (circular, round) or the like.
---Daniel on 9/21/05


No Bebet, I was passing on something that I have been told. The point of my original answer to the original question was that GOD GOT IT RIGHT. If I can find the information I was given (it's in a video somewhere) I will come back to this and say it just like it is said there, but if I can't find it I am going to the leave this question alone now.
---Xanthi on 9/21/05


Phil, the blogg response of Daniel regarding anti-gravity is worth considering. Jesus walked above water. Science is still looking/trying to construct an anti-gravity machine! Jesus has done it, but man is still trying to produce one. Also consider that Moses "struck the rock with his rod" and water flowed out for his people to drink. I understand this that God has been leading Moses where to find water. Science has produce devices to look for water, oil and other mineral deposits.
---Bebet3754 on 9/20/05


Xanthi, is your posting now a proof that Bible texts are altered to suit the understanding of the ones transcribing the Bible verses? There is another blogg in relation to which Bible is best to use. Alteration of texts is one of the issues Bible users are so concerned about!
---bebet3754 on 9/20/05


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(Part 2) But even if what man has done were just poor imitation of what God has made, still I consider man's products good enough for his own survival. I simply hope that when time comes, He would say to us "you have occupied well, my good and faithful servant."
---Bebet3754 on 9/20/05


(Part 1) Elsie, I have considered your "story". True, it is just a story because up to this time humans had not perfected yet (and never will be!) the understanding of the physical world to the point that I have to say that your ex-husband was very correct in what he has shared with you. What man is doing now is just a poor imitation of what God has done. But
---Bebet3754 on 9/20/05


Daniel, apologies for the delay in responding. The only point I was making was that in older manuscripts (I havn't seen them, just been told this) the word khug is used but in later manuscripts it has been changed to whatever word means circle rather than sphere. The explanation given me was that those copying the bible would have thought sphere was an error (because they understood the world to be a flat circle)and so altered the text. We now know that the earth is a sphere but the text remains 'circle'.
---Xanthi on 9/20/05


Consider this story:A scientist went to God and said that humans had perfected the understanding of the physical world to the point that He(God) was no longer necessary. The scientist took some dirt and began molding it into the likeness of a human......God stopped him and said, "Go get your own dirt". There is ALWAYS the place where God becomes the source. My scientist ex-husband said,"I can only discover what God allows me to discover".
---Elsie on 9/20/05


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(Cont.) Daniel, I wish to say here anti-gravity may just another name coined similar to the that of "maglev" or magnetic levitation. But I am interested with the statement: "you need to understand that gravity is really just a *description* of what you see, *not* HOW IT WORKS". Provide me links. We might be talking about two different things! Thank you.
---bebet3754 on 9/19/05


(Cont.) Daniel, we know that the earth is being attracted by the Sun through gravitation but why won't it gets near the sun? It is because the earth is whirling in a tremendous speed through space (roughly at 30 kilometers per second) and that, its motion's direction is not toward the sun! The anti-gravity devices that are being constructed consist of parts that rotates at tremendous speeds. Their rotation provides "levitation".
---bebet3754 on 9/19/05


(Cont.) Daniel, In a small scale, try to imagine a man falling from the roof of a building. The aceleration that he is experiencing would ultimately cause him damage as soon as he strikes the ground. The man's destruction is due to "gravity at works!". The "anti-gravity" researches that Boeing is pursuing seriously is just a poor imitation of how nature works again.
---bebet3754 on 9/19/05


Daniel,I agree with you on two counts:(1)that "Electromagnetic phenomena have real measurable forces that can even be manipulated", and (2) that anti-gravity is still fiction. But I will chose to disagree with you in relation to what you have stated "you need to understand that gravity is really just a *description* of what you see, *not* HOW IT WORKS."
---bebet3754 on 9/19/05


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Okay, Daniel, I got your point. Thank you for the clarification. I was reading quickly the response you gave to Phil. It started with the earth and ended up with the atom. What a contrast! I should miss that "atom" because it is very small! (I mean the last line to be a joke.)
---bebet3754 on 9/19/05


(Cont.#3) The resulting vibrations have large amplitude that destroyed the wall. Science has proven that human voice (with high enough frequency) can shatter glass. The desctruction of Tacoma Narrows Bridge four months after it was opened for traffic was due to resonance. Gale set the bridge to vibrate and the gale's frequency might be close enough to the natural frequency of the bridge.
---bebet3754 on 9/19/05


(Cont.#2)
(3) The destruction of the walls of Jericho (Joshua 6:1-20). The method by which God instructed the Israelites on how to level the walls of Jericho is now considered to be due to resonance. The driving frequency (from the sound produced by the marching men, the horn's blast, the sound of the trumpet's and the great shout of the people) is close enough or may have coincided with the natural frequency of the walls of Jericho, thus it resonates.
---bebet3754 on 9/19/05


Bebet: First, my words "God holds everything together," were about particles inside atoms; not earth's orbit.

However, though it wouldn't shake my faith in God if science did come up with a REASON WHY large bodies attract each other, you need to understand that _gravity_ is really just a *description* of what you see, *not* HOW IT WORKS. Electromagnetic phenomena have real measurable forces that _we can even manipulate_! But 'anti-gravity' is still science-fiction and may always be so.
---Daniel on 9/19/05


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Phil, (1)The "idea of cloning" is from God when He formed Eve out from the ribs of Adam (Genesis 2:21-23). Modern science does plant and animal cloning from tissues, God made it through Adam's ribs. (2)Sarah's conception and subsequent birth of Isaac (Genesis 18:9-15). God said that He will return to Sarah the time of life and Sarah will have a son. Recently a woman of more than 60 yrs gave birth. Her doctors "returned to her the time of life" using science. (TBC)
---bebet3754 on 9/19/05


(Cont.)I do believe that when God finished creating the Universe, including us, the LAWS OF NATURE were already PUT in place. In other words, I don't believe that God is holding THE EARTH IN PLACE literally now. The laws HE CREATED, which we, humans, are trying to discover, are enough for us to be STABLE at this time.
---Bebet3754 on 9/18/05


Daniel, when you said that "God will cease holding everything together" do you mean it to be literal or figurative? I am asking because I understand that during the six days of creation, God has placed everything in place. That "nothing" that holds our earth in space is now called by SCIENCE as the GRAVITATIONAL PULL of the sun on EARTH.
---bebet3754 on 9/18/05


Xanthi, you are right in saying that "Science has a lot of catching up to do". Being just a tool invented by man, SCIENCE is pushing the frontiers of knowledge so that man would be able to understand his physical environment more fully.
---bebet3754 on 9/18/05


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I said I'd come back with some references. Here are some. Is. 40:42 - The circle of the earth. Job 26:7 The earth hangs on nothing (scientists discovered this in the 16th century) Job 38: 31 Orion and Pleiades. Scientists discovered that some stars were 'loose' clusters and some were 'bound' clusters only in the last century. Lev. 15:13 Use running water to wash when infected. Doctors discovered germs little over a century ago and later discovered that they still breed in stagnant water.
---Xanthi on 9/18/05


Phil: The Bible is full of good science. The book of Job (Chapter 38 in particular) is a good place to start. It records God's challenge to Job about Job's knowledge of creation. Job, 38:31 for example mentions astronomical phenomena which can only be seen/measured with a telescope (not invented 'til thousands of years later). The Biblical flood account is the only theory which matches observed strata and plate tectonic evidence.
---Jerry on 9/17/05


Phil, Job 26:7 states: "He stretches out the north over empty space And hangs the earth on nothing." I've always liked to combine this part of Colossians 1:17: "in Him all things hold together." with the fact that science still has no idea why the particles inside an atom don't just fall apart! Well, as Peter described the end of the world, one day, that's exactly what they will do! God will cease holding everything together.
---Daniel on 9/17/05


[Part2] 'khug' might mean sphere in Isaiah 40:22, where you likely recalled seeing some discussion of it, but it wouldn't have to. If you back away from a sphere, what does it look like? A circle. BTW, historians now know there was never any debate over the shape of the earth when Columbus set sail; it was a myth propagated by evolutionists to ridicule Christians!
---Daniel on 9/17/05


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[Part1] Xanthi, The word 'khug' by itself cannot mean anything without context. Do you know what "inscribe" means? Job 26:10: "He has inscribed a circle [horizon] on the surface of the waters..." You do not "inscribe" a sphere, BUT the meaning is still clear! In order to have a horizon, earth must be round! Sailors on the Med. had to know the earth was 'curved'. About 200B.C. the Greeks had already come up with a fairly accurate measure of the earth's circumference! [CONT.]
---Daniel on 9/17/05


Becky, please provide me links with the response you have given. I am interested with the information you have just shared.
---bebet3754 on 9/15/05


I heard on a christian radio station that they broke down the atom (smallest particle) and found it to be made up of sound.....In the beginning GOD SAID!!! That should prove it all!! I hope this is taught in school if they truly have found this out!
---Becky on 9/13/05


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