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144,000 JWs Go To Heaven

Do Jehovah's Witnesses really believe that only 144,000 people will get to heaven? If so, why do they go door-to-door promoting their religion?

Moderator - Yes. They believe when the 144,000 die which will be soon that the end is here. The other JWs become a good thought to God in their theology and that is it.

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144000: 12000 from each tribe of Israel, the remnant who have been provoked to jealousy and finally see Jesus as their Christ after the fulness of the Gentiles has been completed ---micha9344 on 5/4/10

These "gentiles" translated from "nations/ethnos" are the ten divorced nations of Israel you mention above. Who lost their married name. Judah/ 1/2 of Benj who had not been divorced could still retain the name at the time of Christ.
This is why Heb 8:8...the new covenant reads as it does. And all the prophets...prophesy as they do in harmony with each other. The only thing not in harmony about Christianity today is the confusion unscriptural messages denoms are spreading.
---Trav on 5/5/10


The moderator is correct and then some. JW is a works-based and rules-based cult and so time on the street is tabulated and the minions are driven two-by-two.
---larry on 5/4/10


144000: 12000 from each tribe of Israel, the remnant who have been provoked to jealousy and finally see Jesus as their Christ after the fulness of the Gentiles has been completed thus God, being Faithful and True, keeps the covenants that He made to all.
---micha9344 on 5/4/10


So, candice, you believe that God offers two classes of salvation.

I believe that God loves all His children equally.
---Cluny on 5/4/10


There is a new earth & new heavens. 144,000 is the small elect group & the rest of us are also invited ,on the new earth where God will dwell with mankind in the new Jeruselum (rev 21) there are going to be priests to rule over the earth along with Jesus our king & this is where the 144,000 come in. it isn't a figurtive number, but litral. even the Chuch of christ I attended believes in the litral 144,000. no I'm not a witness, but I do support them scriptually on this. My dad puts it this way very simple & he's native american.. "If everyone went to heaven & no one stayed on the new earth there would be too many chiefs & not enough indians!" otherwise we all have our places.all wil lstill be in Gods presence.
---candice on 5/4/10




Xanitha(sorry for missspelling) to answer your question from over 4 yrs ago when I attended with them & no longer do, CTRussell & his gravesite has nothing to do with the witnesses.Jehovah's witnesses were lead by Rutherford who opposed russells teachings. the "bible students" split up.Some remained loyal to CT Russells teachings, others followed rutherford & became Jw's eventually. I have plenty of documents & reports on the pastor c.t.russell.
---candice on 5/4/10


I do believe that 144,000 will go to heaven. it says that in the Bible. But for those who only listen to others opinions and dont actually try to follow up on the info, those 144,000 will be chosen by the Lord and all others, that He approves, will remain on earth in eternal paradise.
---JohnQ on 5/4/10


"Jesus came that we may have life." "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believeth in Him will not perish but have everlasting life."God didn't say, "just the 144,000 will have everlasting life" NO, He loves all of us here on earth that He allowed His precious Son to die on the cross that we all might live eternally with Him. Betty
---betty on 3/15/08


From my interactions with the JWs years ago, I understand that most of them do not believe that they are going to heaven, but will be part of the "Great Multitude" who will be resurrected on earth and will live here.

A small selected few (144,000) will actually go to heaven instead.
---StrongAxe on 11/21/07


According to Adventist doctrine since the 144,000 obey the Lord's commandments, they can only be Seventh Day Adventists.

It always amazes me that there are groups & individuals that view themselves as being more special and enlightened in God's eyes than other Christians.
---Lee on 11/20/07




Yes they believe that 144000 JW (ones who they say have not been defiled, a few years ago I went to a communion and the number then so far was 80,000 something) will go to heaven and rule with over us with Jesus while the other unknown amout will live on earth. I am NOT a witness but have family that are but saw too many holes in their belief so chose not to become one.
---judit4846 on 11/13/07


Yes they do believe this. They do not know who will be in the 144,000 but they believe it is thorugh good works and witnessing that these 144,000 will be chosen. MY God has a mansion in heaven for ALL who believe in him and accept him. He does not take only a few.

Moderator - They believe the first 144,000 JWs are the chosen ones. Only a few thousand of these are alive today.
---Marla on 4/9/07


Friends, that is how JW wants to interpret the bible, let us all make ourselves ready instead of scorning etc their or others teachings. Let us get ourselves learned and make sure we go by the truth of the bible alone. Let us not throw stones at others. Be practicing to be good christians lest we get left behind when the Lord comes at an unkown time. Just let God be judge for He knows the Jw's and our hearts.
---jana on 9/23/06


The Watchtower admits that eternal life is a free gift, but then they say, "Yet, it does require effort on our part." (2-1-96 Watchtower, pg.7) They next outline all the supposed "requirements" we must meet and "works" we must do to "earn" that gift. They insult the living God. They detract from His free gift of love, implying that He requires something from us.
---wes on 11/4/05


Yes the JWs believe that 144,000 of their people will reign forever in heaven, while the remaining jehovah's witnesses will live on paradise earth. They also believe that they are the only ones who have eternal life and that they will continue to procreate and fill the new earth's population until God's commands them to stop! Not scriptual at all! The Bible says we will neither marry nor be given into marriage. We will be asexual like angels.
---clark on 11/4/05


Read Revelation 7. the 144,000 are jews who preach during the tribulation. God preserves them thru the end of the tribulation
---shira_5965 on 10/26/05


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Joanne, after being told in Revelation chapter 7 about the 144,000 (which are 12,000 from each of the 12 tribes of Israel) Rev. 7:9 says "After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;" We will be part of that multitude referred to here.
---M.P. on 10/26/05


i wonder what about the rest of christians along with the phrase "144,000 jewish will go to heaven"? do we still go to heaven?
---Joanne_Pulley on 10/26/05


The founder of the JW's said only 144,000 people would go to heaven and when more and more people joined his "movement", over 144,000, they were "specials". The 144,000 are 12,000 from each of the 12 tribes of Israel who will evangelize during the tribulation.
---Nellah on 10/12/05


Sister Candice, I read where you mentioned that you changed your mind on the New World Translation bible. I am so glad that you did and I know many here are so happy for that. God will guide you in your walk and even if many of us differ in some area's of Scripture the essentials of the Christian faith stay the same. Praise God for the light He has shown you. You have made my day. God bless
---Lupe2618 on 10/12/05


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Jehovahs Witnesses believe that 144,000 is a literal number because it is contrasted with an indefinate number of a "great crowd". The 144k are spiritual Jews circumcised of heart. Revelation says they are the first fruits, not better, just first. Jehovah did not "create the earth simply for nothing but formed to be inhabited". The Jews hope was to live on earth. Thus their land inheritance. Once the firstfruits are filled gods plan will procede with man on earth.
---KC on 10/5/05


2. I asked my sister, how anyone knew if someone is one of the remant? and she said they knew. She just said that the witnesses knew who the one's chosen are. I began to learn a lot about them and found out so much that is so wrong. You know they believe that a Black witness becomes white when they die. That was also one of their teachings. Now how rediculous is that? They always answer that others made a mistake and that new revelations from the Watchtower keeps coming out all the time.
---lupe2618 on 9/17/05


I was at a yearly meeting where the communion was been held with my sister and when the session started my sister told me not to take from the communion tray and to just let it pass by, finally a lady took one piece and past it on. I asked her why I could not since I was use to doing that at the Catholic Church at the time and she told me that only the one's that were chosen, the remant, could take it. Everyone else could not. She told me the lady was the only one that could. She was one of the 144,000.
---Lupe2618 on 9/17/05


JW are SO deceived. The 144,000 are JEWS....and only Jews. They will be the evangelist during the GREAT Tribulation. Besides....IF...that were fact it is JW...that quota has already been filled. PITY all JW. They are so blind to truth...and SO confident. Satan has done a number on them.
---Eloia_N_KS on 9/16/05


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I think they aren't sure which ones are the chosen ones. So go get as many as you can converted so the ones that actually get to go to heaven will be ready. Sad isn't it, they can convert, follow and believe and still can't really be sure of their salvation. :(
---Julie3763 on 9/15/05


I don't know if that is what they believe but there will be 144,000 all the tribes of the children of Israel. Rev 7:3-8, 14:1-4. These 144,000 won't be JW.
---Rebecca_D on 9/15/05


Beth Sarim was in San Diego circa 1925. When confronted with "changes " their pet response is " the light gets brighter and brighter(until the perfect day)" The piramid of Gisa was referred to as the "great stone witness",and studied, until they discovered that it was of no use! Jesus'first comming was said to be 1884,then changed to 1914.
---1st_cliff on 9/15/05


Candice I wonder if you know anything about a mansion called Beth Sarim (House of the Princes) which was build by Rutherford on behalf of J.Ws. to house Abraham, Isaac and other 'old saints' when they were resurrected and came back to live on the earth? When that didn't happen he occupied it himself for a time. I believe it was quietly disposed of later and forgotten about by J.Ws. but I could be wrong on that latter point, perhaps others can help here. I've spoken to J.Ws. who have never heard of it.
---Xanthi on 9/15/05


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Funny thing about the 144,000, is that they are Jewish, Male, and virgins. They also come from the 12 tribes of Israel, which would be 12,000 from each tribe. Check out Rev 7:4, Rev 14:1-4.
---geraa7578 on 9/15/05


Candice, everything that I know about J.Ws. is from speaking with them personally (a 4 hour stretch on one occasion) and reading their literature. I was not referring to past 'mistakes' but to what they call new truth as opposed to yesterday's truth and expressions like that. They do not admit making mistakes. Most of their BIG mistakes are not discussed at all which is why some non-J.Ws. know more about their past than younger J.Ws. know themselves. Things are whitewashed and hidden I'm afraid.
---Xanthi on 9/15/05


pt 2:Jehovah does the ultamate judgeing., but staying on the topic of the 144,000 has already been answered.
---candice on 9/15/05


As they said in one of their services, they admited some people in the past were wrong,so they no lnger teach about this, but do you grill people of today, for people of yesterdays mistake?The foundation still is centered with Jesus & his teachings. I have seen a lot of mistakees done by other churches,that they did a whole turn around, but yet I donot hold them accountable for someone elses mistakes.

Moderator - It's called a false prophet which the Bible strictly condemns. Christians aren't to associate with false prophets.
---candice on 9/15/05


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I thought I would also add this...this is for attending any denomination...if you again have questions on what they teach pls go see them. Or look at their official websites. Some on here like to psot false things about them, it is better to get the answer from the source itself.
---Candice on 9/15/05


Candice, what you say might well be true because Jehovah's Witnesses keep changing what they call 'truth'. You only have to read some of the old Watchtower magazines and compare them with newer ones to see that they keep changing their beliefs but newer J.W.s are not aware of much that has gone on in the organization. They say 'that was true then but this is true now' etc. Obviously they do not believe that God never changes. An organization to avoid except for witnesses to.
---Xanthi on 9/15/05


xanthia;
I asked the witnes about that& they said they no longer teach this. they said only Jehovah knows the hearts of thease people whom will be in paradise/heaven,but yes they are pointing out about the paradise told in the bible.
---candice on 9/14/05


Those of the 144,000 that are left on earth they call "the remnant" are the only ones (for some strange reason) that take "communion" once a year at their "memorial". They are supposed to be those whose generation was 1914-1918, but they're all dead, but new ones keep cropping up to take their place...it could go on indefinatly. Strange world..but then , the 12 apostles are still alive in Salt Lake City!
---1st_cliff on 9/14/05


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They believe that all other J.W.s will live on the new earth (the new earth is scriptural, but that it will be inhabited only by J.W.s is not). They believe everyone else who never accepted their faith will simply be anihilated because they do not accept any teaching about hell.
---Xanthi on 9/14/05


Rats! I guess heaven must be already full then! (Based on that theology)
---NVBarbara on 9/14/05


Yes they are reffering to the 144,000 in the book of revelation, though not al l44,000 are Jehovah Witnesses. Did you know that there are 3 levels of Heaven described in the book of Gen? If you also read in rev. about the new jeruselem how Gods tent comes down& covers his people, that means he meets us. When Jesus also died during crucifixtion he said "today you will be with me in Paradise", not neccsarly "heaven"as some think. Do a google search on Heaven itself.
---candice on 9/14/05


Phrase God! I am going to heaven, that only leaves 143,999 spaces available. Better get yours soon. Ha! Ha!
---Rev_Herb on 9/14/05


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