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Was Katrina God's Judgement

Was Hurricane Katrina, God's judgement? Two prophets, John Mark Pool and Kim Clement prophesied back in January and July against New Orleans. They even mentioned a flood. If true, I think we should still help the survivors. What do you think?

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who is at work here?..who are these false prophets? The bible is our prophets of today..the Old n New Testaments...Jesus the Word..John 1:1,2
---operator on 5/9/08

Last time I read my Bible, it told me that it is the Holy Ghost who is sent to convict the world of sin, because they believe not on Him, and of judgment because this world has been judged already. Now, if the Holy Ghost has been sent to do all that, then why does God need to send a hurricane to get people to realize they are sinners?
---Linda on 5/6/08

Furthermore, if the Holy Spirit is the great teacher of the church, then why do so many people believe that God sends (or allows) sickness to teach them a lesson? God allowed all of that to come upon Jesus so that we would not have to be taught that way. He is a good God and it is His goodness that leads a man to repentance.
---Linda on 5/6/08

More on God and His creation the weather>>"For the windows from on high are open, and the foundations of the earth do shake" [Isa. 24:18]. And I will shew wonders in heavens above, and signs in the earth beneath: BLOOD and FIRE, and VAPOUR of SMOKE [Acts 2:19]. There will not be peace among the wicked. The End.++++
---catherine on 5/6/08

The true God is a God who hates sin. A just God who will and shall punish the wicked. Satan has nothing to do with the weather, but God has everything to do with the weather, because God created the weather. I can prove what I just typed:>>>And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke [Joel 2:30] The Lord hath His way in the whirlwind and in the storm, and the clouds are the dust of His feet. [NAH. 1:3]. There will be no peace unto the wicked.>>More
---catherine on 5/6/08

More on God and His creation, the waether>>For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind [Hos. 8:7] He maketh lightnings with rain, and bringeth forth the wind out of His treasures [Jer. 51:16].Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her place, IN THE WRATH OF THE LORD OF HOSTS, and in the DAY OF HIS FIERCE ANGER. [ISA. 13:13]. And He changeth the times and the seasons [Dan. 2:21] There will never be peace unto the wicked.
---catherine on 5/6/08

The worldwide flood in Noah's time and the torching of Sodom and Gomorrah are examples of God's judgments which did not kill or hurt any innocent people. So . . . IF Katrina was a judgment by God, I'd say it did not hurt or kill anyone *God* knew was innocent. But, of course, people disobeying God while *pretending* to be Christian were not innocent. Any person who obeys God could have been led to evacuate in time, or stay to help their neighbors . . . God's choice (o:
---Bill_bila5659 on 5/6/08

Isaiah 14:12 calls Satan "You who weakened the nations!" So, I can see that Satan can arrange things to keep people weak so he can control them > especially by means of their *fear* about things like Katrina and 9/11 > these things are used to keep our attention away from God, and
in fear we are not trusting God and this keeps us weak so Satan's spirit (Ephesians 2:2) can make us worse.
---Bill_bila5659 on 5/6/08

Natural disaster are neither signs from God or caused by Satan. All areas on earth are subject to certain natural occurances that periodically occure for various natural explainable reasons.
---Phil_the_Elder on 5/6/08

God Almighty has nothing wot soever to do with hurricanes etc..they are the works of the devil..he/devil has always painted God's character as evil when he is the evil one..remember this, God Almighty is a God of how come you think He has something to do with all these things? He is a God of love, peace etc etc..Satan caused all these evil things..not Jehovah
---operator on 5/6/08

For "sin city" just take a look at Washington DC.
---Mary on 5/5/08

I belive it was God's judgement that place is sin city the first thing the mayor wonted to do was build a hotel with a casino.God didn't stop Kritiana.Look at the weather we are having never in this age have we seen this happening like it is now.I belive God is trying to get our attention
---Betty on 5/5/08

We live in the end times conditions will continue to worsen ...tornado's in places not normally seen have been regularly occuring ...earthquakes ...Reno had hundreds in a few days ...Gods Wrath is described as childbirth ...starting out slowly ...Katrina was the direct result of an incompetent Mayor ...he was the one who didn't do his job evacuating his city ...huricanes don't happen overnight there was plenty of time to prepare and evacuate he should have been jailed for his lack of response
---Rhonda on 5/4/08

Katrina was a very strange and tragic affair. They wanted to demolish the area anyway. Some people knew it was going to happen. Explosions were heard in the area of the dykes. Innocent people were killed. More innocent people were kept confined to bring them to the edge of madness. It was totally of the devil and the USA government where he has set up his power base.
---frances008 on 5/4/08

Before planned tragedies, there are always people in the know. False prophets. You might ask how they know. The same happened before the war in Yugoslavia, and the same with Princess Diana's death. These things come from the god of this world, Satan. He uses humans to carry out his plans. Even earthquakes can be caused deliberately nowadays.
---frances008 on 5/4/08

I do not believe that God did that. I believe he could have stopped it and did no, we all had to learn through that. I believe that God is all powerful and I believe that God allows natural disasters to happen and does not stop them to that we turn to him in our time of need. And I could be all wet and find out that he is smitting us as often as he likes. I don't think so. See glory IN all things.
---nona on 5/4/08

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I BELIEVE kATRINA WAS A SIGN FROM God that these things would happen inthe end times they happen everywhere God did not say just becaus you live in america you are not immune thats why you have tornardos and earthquakes and orther distasters
---lawre3763 on 5/4/08

Sandra>>>I love you!
---catherine on 5/4/08

"Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD" (Psalm 33)That used to be us, the United States of America, a country whose foundation is like no other, based on GODLY, Biblical principles. Just take a look at the Constitution; There is no other document like it. For over two hundred years, we have had GOD'S protection, But, Like so many
countries before us, we have turned our back on GOD. Scripture tells us that GOD always warns His people, before he punishes them. WAKE UP AMERICA !!!!!
---Sandra on 5/3/08

Donna ... No need to ask for a truce. I have not intended to disparage the USA, my comments arose because of the many posts here that indicaated that katrina was God's punishmnet for the USA. I don't believe that the US is any worse than any other country (and better than most) But as you say there ia a certain amount of isolationism apparent in the US (and on these blogs) and there is in a large part of the UK population.
---alan8869_of_UK on 7/22/06

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#7 Alan of UKI apologize for hurting your feelings. But lets not fight the American Revolution over again. Can we declare a truce? I dont recall ever saying anything disparaging about the UK. or the English. (If I have, forgive me) Can we agree to speak of both countries and their citizens with respect? And will you forgive me if Im over-sensitive about this.When it comes to Gods kingdom we are both on the same side, allies, and I hope friends as wellGot to get some sleep. Bless you, brother.
---Donna2277 on 7/22/06

#5? 6? Alan of UK--yes, Ive read about the problems Sudan, Darfur, Nigeria, Tutsis and Hutus, Uganda, Zimbabwe.. Ive read, but cant say that I really understand. Youve read about our problems along the Mexican border, but I can tell from what you say, that you dont really understand ..just as I dont understand much about Romania.. Newspapers invariably express their own views, objective tho they claim to be. And often their facts are not even very reliable. At least thats the case in this country.
---Donna2277 on 7/22/06

#4 Alan of UK--We could compare lists of problems, on and on. but Why? I'm also aware of the street kids being shot down like rats. We too have truckloads of immigrants suffocated by greedy "coyotes" who have already taken whatever money they may have had. I've personally seen the slums Rio and BA as well as Cairo and war- ravaged Mozambique. But just naming them accomplishes little
---Donna2277 on 7/22/06

#3 Alan of UK--ALL Americans are not ignorant or uninformed about the rest of the world. It's a gross generalization to imply it. Granted our geography isolates us somewhat. But the view from your side of the pond and mine are not always the same, OK?. There are some here who don't know, or are too consumed with their own problems, to care about much far from home. Is anyone in UK like that?
---Donna2277 on 7/22/06

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#2-Alan I am sorry for hurting you. I feel hurt because the whole world demeans my country and blames it for every conceivable ill..never mentioning anything good. Everything we do is wrong. And no group, nation, nor the U.N. hesitates to let us know.. Would it bother you to hear things like that about England day after day? I couldn't sleep thinking about it, so I got up and "fired" my messages at you.
---Donna2277 on 7/22/06

#1-Alan of UK-- thanks for your many replies. I never said, or meant, and hope I did not imply, that Katrina was a major scale disaster in the world. Anything that causes death and suffering is a "disaster" to the people involved. It is mentioned in these blogs because so many Americans post here and they are more familiar with the details and locale of it, not because they imagine it is of world-wide import.
---Donna2277 on 7/22/06

Donna I will resubmit #12 because I had omitted some punctuation":
You say: "These are a few problems in this hemisphere I hope I've 'opened your eyes' to. You haven't been concerned (nor aware) of some of these"
As you have seen that is just not true, I have been only too aware of all those situations you mentioned.. I suppose you have given me a hard time by saying that, because it was a hurtful accusation.
---alan8869_of_UK on 7/22/06

Donna # 13 & from what you say, I have know a jolly sight more about those problems in your hemisphere than many US residents. Which gets us back to the point I started off making, that Katrina was a tiny disaster in the whole scheme of things which are going on in Gods world.
Blessings to you
---alan8869_of_UK on 7/21/06

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Donna # 12 You say These are a few problems in this hemisphere I hope I've "opened your eyes" to. You haven't been concerned (nor aware) of some of these, but as you have seen that is just not true, I have been only too aware of all those situations you mentioned.. I suppose you have given me a hard time by saying that, because it hurt.
---alan8869_of_UK on 7/21/06

Donna # 11 No Donna, you have not opened my eyes to the problems there in the Americas, because I was aware of them already, as I am aware of those of Africa (Sudan, Darfur, Nigeria, Tutsis and Hutus, Uganda, Zimbabwe, and also those in the Pacific. No Donna, you have not given me a bad time.
---alan8869_of_UK on 7/21/06

Donna 10 And I have seen first hand the thin line that has been in Rumania between very grudging tolerance and ethnic cleansing. Thankfully the influence of Western Europe is making that horror less likely.
---alan8869_of_UK on 7/21/06

Donna 9 Ecuador yes I know about that also, and I have seen exactly the same conditions in Rumania everything in the fields done by hand, no machinery or tractors. And alongside that, the enormous cars owned by the unprincipled near-crooks who muscled in as Western & market economy methods flooded in after the fall of communism. Im not saying this could have been avoided, but there sure is a huge huge gap between the poor and the rich.
---alan8869_of_UK on 7/21/06

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Donna # 8 Yes I know about Rio de Janiero, and also Beaunos Aires. I have had the description of a young friend of ours, who sat cradling a young street boy as he lay dying having been shot (just for being there) like a rat by the police.
And for the Mexico City earthquake yes our charities and individuals sent money, and teams went out to search in the rubble and set up tent cities.
---alan8869_of_UK on 7/21/06

Donna # 7 Oh yes we know all about that, and about the gang masters, who treat those lucky enough to arrive alive like slaves. (Did you know that in the whole of Europe, there are only three countries who will accept immigrants from the newly free Eastern European countries .. Britain, Ireland and now Spain?) We have many immigrants being helped in the way in which your country helps the Mexicans but I dont know the relative size of the problems.
---alan8869_of_UK on 7/21/06

Donna # 6 You ask whether I knew about the workers from Mexico risking their lives to enter the USA. Yes, I have seen many articles and features about this in the British press. We also have the same situation occurring here, except that they come not from the immediate neighbour, but from distant Eastern Europe, and from China, Indonesia and other countries around there. They pay a fortune for transport to arrive here, and finish up dead stuffed into unventilated containers.
---alan8869_of_UK on 7/21/06

Donna # 5 As to the contributions from our two countries, the stats I was referring to where those relative to private donations and those from charities. I dont know what the relative state aid is, and I only know that our present administration (which labels itself as being just and caring) has progressively reduced the amount of foreign aid given.
---alan8869_of_UK on 7/21/06

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Donna # 4 I can understand that the sheer size of America makes it maybe more difficult to see what is happening elsewhere. I had imagined that you would look at all American news as being home news and what is happening elsewhere in the world as foreign news But as so much more happens in a country your size than in one of our size, it is a very different situation
---alan8869_of_UK on 7/21/06

Donna # 3 So really we are saying the same thing, that we need, all of us, to look beyond those things which affect our own local or even national community, and start being a neighbour to the rest of the world, not to the comfortable set of people who are just like us
---alan8869_of_UK on 7/21/06

Donna # 2 There has been scant mention here of any other disasters, other than 9/11, and of course the overwhelmingly un-overlookable Tsunami.
Now the Tsunami killed how many ?? Yet Katrina with maybe 1% (no much fewer than that) of the number of casualties, has had so much more coverage on these blogs
---alan8869_of_UK on 7/21/06

Donna # 1 Peace !!! Please put away the shooter I never had mine out!
But you are not giving me a hard time But you make my point, by being the first person from the USA to mention on these blogs any of these human catastrophes, each of them dwarfing Katrina & New Orleans in horror.
In fact you are proving the point I was making, which was, that Katrina, which many US people regard as the most significant thing happening in the world, was in fact a minor incident on the world scale
---alan8869_of_UK on 7/21/06

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Alan is right, in part. US citizens are very insular.

The judgments of God are transpiring daily all over the world, and the righteous live among the unrighteous. Thus good and bad die together in the judgments.

Scottish, I live on the eastern seaboard and see the prophecies of the American Continent "reap[ing] the east wind" for its unrighteousness on a daily basis. Others challenge the notions of fire and pestilence, earthquake and flood as if it is not happening.
---Robert on 7/21/06

#5 Alan of UK- These are a few problems in this hemisphere I hope I've "opened your eyes" to. You haven't been concerned (nor aware) of some of these. Neither have many U.S. residents, who may live thousands of miles from Mexico (let alone S. America). They are now becoming very aware of Mexican problems (which have existed for years)

Sorry to give you a hard time. Christians may discuss world problems on other sites. But perhaps they also see things from a different vantage point.
---Donna2277 on 7/21/06

#4 Alan of UK-- Did Europe or UK help in The Mexico City earthquake that killed thousands? I don't remember.They may have sent workers or equipment for rescue.

Do you know of the deplorable condition of the poor in Rio De Janeiro? Brazil is a wealthy country, but in that city some are so poor that a cardboard box may be home to a whole family.

And Ecuador? A tropical paradise. But the native people in the mountains there consider themselves well off if they have an ox to pull their plow.
---Donna2277 on 7/21/06

#2 Alan of UK-- Did you know that poverty stricken Mexicans risk their lives (many die of heat and thirst in the desert) to come here so that they can do manual labor and send money home to their families? Mexico is rich in natural resources but their gov't is so corrupt that most citizens are poor. If families come, we educate their children, give free medical care and often free housing.We have literally millions of such people living here.
---Donna2277 on 7/21/06

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#1-Alan of UK--The % of giving by US pertains to gov't.. doesn't take into account the contributions of private groups, churches and civic organizations which may be substantial.

The reason for my stats on the US vs. Europe
was not to boast but to show that by our size, many here do not see first hand what is happening in other countries. It is not like Europe. I live only a few hrs. from a foreign coutry, Mexico, but the bulk of the nation does not.
---Donna2277 on 7/21/06

Alan of UK--most of the contributors to these blogs live in the United States. Is it not normal to be most concerned with problems that affect your life directly?

The population of the United States is 20 times greater than that of the entire European Union and more than twice its' size. The U.S. population is over 150 times greater than the U.K. (CIA World factbook 2006) It's a large and varied area about which we must stay informed in order to be properly represented in our national government.
---Donna2277 on 7/20/06

Donna ... I am pleased to hear what you say. But the evidence of these blogs seems to indicaste that American problems are regarded as being the ones that are important to God, rather than those greater ones occurring elsehwere.
I know the USA has sent billions ... I beleive the % from the UK is maybe a little higher, but we are much smaller!!
---alan8869_of_UK on 7/20/06

I think 'Wesley'asked a good question:If God did this to punish and judge, why didnt God destroy the worst area of New Orleans, the French Quarter? Many good peoples' home's were destroyed over the worst (morally) part of New Orleans.Actually, why pick New Orleans over any other'bad' city, state or country? There are much worse places to pick on than New Orleans. I still think it was NOT God's judgement and punishment, just mans ignorance or nature that caused it.
---sue on 7/20/06

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Alan of UK--You must think that Americans don't know or don't care about disasters and hardships elsewhere in the world. It's true some don't.(probably some in UK don't either). Many families here have adopted Romanian orphans. With all the atrocities of wars in Africa, earthquakes in Pakistan, tsunamis in Indonesia and Java, famine, disease and poverty around the world, we have sent billions and billions of dollars in aid. But, sorry, we can't do EVERYTHING the whole world wants us to.
---Donna2277 on 7/20/06

Donna ... you have been involved in the horror following Katrina. I know those who have been involved and are still involved in the unravelling of the horror of 20 years of Ceaucescu rule of Rumania (particularly the way orphans were treated)
And he was lauded by the West for a long time as bastion against Russia.
there are horrors everywhere. I was trying to open American eyes, away from their domestic trials, to much worse disasters elsewhere.
---alan8869_of_UK on 7/20/06

Alan of UK--Right. Katrina was minor compared to other disasters. But to those of us who(like me) spent the Summer and early Fall evacuating..returning..evacuating.. returning.. and making room for refugees, it was, I HOPE, a GOOD lesson. At least, I myself, can imagine a tiny bit better the plight of sunami victims after seeing the devastation of New Orleans. We take
so much for granted.
---Donna2277 on 7/20/06

Katrina was only one of many current end times prophesies being fulfilled for those who see. The wind and seas raging. Men being scorched with heat and the massive fires destroying the land go hand in hand with all of the wars. It's more important to seek God with all our hearts than to wonder if it is God or the devil.
---Shari on 7/20/06

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Donna ... there has been another deadly tsunami. How may were killed in Katrina ... it was not such a big deal, when put beside what is happening elsewhere inthe world.
---alan8869_of_UK on 7/20/06

George ... may I suggest that you read the world news in the papers?
---alan8869_of_UK on 7/20/06

Alan of UK- I live on the Gulf Coast in the USA. The currents in the Gulf of Mexico have been warmer lately, but that's nothing new. It's a cyclical thing. Also cloud seeding used to be done in the US. but it has never worked reliably. IMO If it's that hard to produce rain with calculated amounts of silver nitrate, it's not likely that haphazard pollution would cause it.
---Donna2277 on 7/19/06

There was no question in my mind that Katrina WAS the judgement of our Lord Jesus Christ(God). KATRINA MEANS TO PURIFY OR CLEANSE. People please wake up!!!!! What are the odds that all of this fitting together? I have had to grow up in this hell hole for the past 30 years and I feel like I have been in Jail somewhat. NEW ORLEANS IS THE MOST FILTHY, DISGUSTING, WICKED,DISGRACFUL, CORRUPT, ARROGANT, IGNORANT, AND PUTRID CITY ON THE FACE OF THE ENTIRE EARTH.
---George on 7/19/06

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New Orleans is one of the most sinful cities I can think of with Mardi Gras (partying, sexual immorality, drunkenness) and voodoo. One day it is going to get a worse judgment than Katrina I am afraid....unless it repents and turns from its wicked ways.
---Manny on 7/14/06

satan can also deceive people by causing this event...its what he wants people to think that God did it...Jehovah made a covenant after the flood that there will never be any more...This I believe are birth pains as mentioned in the bible...we are at the end of times but donot be deceived by the enemy...God does things in the right time and in His own time...not ours
---jana on 7/14/06

John Pool's prophecy did not fit Katrina for several reasons:

1. Katrina did not hit NO. It hit Pass Christian Ms.
2. Bourbon St & the fench quarter were spared..contrary to the prophecy.
4. There was not a widespread alligator attack.

In addition, it's "easy" to predict that New Orleans will be under 20 feet of water since it's 20 feet below sea level. Therefore, either the prophecy is WRONG or it was not referring to Katrina but rather a later event yet to happen.
---Jim on 1/4/06

Yes, the book of Job is right in also saying sometimes it is. And in this case it is! :(
---Connie on 11/16/05

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God will judge sin when He is ready. But, a quick review of the book of Job, teaches us that not all misfortune is a result of God's judgement on sin.
---mike on 11/16/05

Saying it's God is not vindictive,
it's what the Bible all along is
telling us. But it's not alive to
anyone, until God give you Life to
see Him through His Divine Word.

Oh the B i b l e,
Oh that's the Book for me,
I stand on faith
By the Word of God,
The B i b l e.
---Connie on 11/15/05

Folks, please understand how nature works, and understand the physical environment where you live before giving conclusions regarding natural calamity as punishment fom God. Knowing the mechanisms/ principles behind the workings of Nature will make us more compassionate and not vindictive!
---Linda6546 on 11/14/05

Sherry ... Pakistan earthquake toll now approaching 90,000
---alan8869_of_UK on 11/13/05

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Hurricane Katrina WAS the judgment of God it is the beginning of his judgments upon America (Babylon). More is to come as the Birth-pangs have begun. REPENT AMERICA!!!
---Sherry on 11/13/05

Yes it was a judgment from God.
---jsisrl on 10/17/05

Judy "these disasters are only happening in the U S A" ???
Katrina = how many dead ... under 3.000?
Tsunami = 200.000 + dead
Pakistan earthquake 38,000 + dead
---alan8869_of_UK on 10/15/05

I can't speak for God ... I live in Jackson, Miss. and a lot of people see this as a wake up call for everyone ... Gulf Coast looks as if a bomb had been dropped ... destroyed the casinos though! And ignorant man are letting them rebuild inland, not my choice either. We are suffering from these terrible storms, Katrina and Rita, but remember Pakistan and the thousands who has died there. Over 2,000,000 homeless ... pray for these lost people, that someone will a way to teacher them about our Jesus.
---Nellah on 10/15/05

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If this was an act of God why is it then that the French Quarter was largly unscathed,it barley had any damage and was the first part of the city up and running, in fact some businesses didnt even shut down.
---wesley on 10/14/05

Alan, I have, admittedly, little understanding of that (I've only heard the phrase once or twice before), but it has nothing to do with God's judgements which always have, still do, and always will until His Glorious Appearing, happen.
---Heather on 10/2/05

I believe that the disasters that are happening in the world are a direct message from God. To the president of the USA - He helped and aided in the removal of people from the Gaza strip just days before Katrina. No regrade for the people living their do you see that these disasters are only happening in the U S A
USA = Earth - Wind - Fire and air the four elements.
---Judy_Murray on 10/2/05

Have you heard of "seeding the rainclouds"? Silver nitrate is dropped from aircraft onto the top of clouds and it makes them shed the water.
Thus was used by the Russians recently to make the rain fall before the clouds reached Moscow. The technique has also been used to make rain fall where it is needed.
If just a few crystals dropped from an aircraft can do this, think what can be caused by all the pollution we pump into the atmosphere
---alan8869_of_UK on 10/2/05

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I heard that the hurricanes have more power now because the temperature inthe Gulf of Mexico is warmer than previously, and the cause of that is global warming, caused by pollution coming from man's activities
---alan8869_of_UK on 10/2/05

There is nothing new under the sun. This storm is/was an act of God. who else has this much power? No one. Just before this hurricane hit the casino just did open up for gay people. then wham the storm hit. It fell on the just and the unjust for God has no respect of people. This storm was a warning.
---Rebecca_D on 10/1/05

Sue, that theory doesn't hold up very well. The oceans don't obey or follow man's will-only God's.
---Heather on 10/1/05

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