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Incest Involved To Populate

The Bible tells us about Adam and Eve's 2 sons, Cain and Able. How did they begin populating the earth without incest being involved?

Moderator - There were other children. These two are mentioned as God had a point to show us. However, yes brothers and sisters would have to procreate for a period of time.

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Gentiles means"gen" beginning "tiles" clay tiles. The order & type of animals created in 1st accoount is not the same. God is "Elohim" in creation wk. Meaning plural, implied more than 2. That's how Gentiles have always known Him. He is "Jehovah" in Adam creation. That's how Jews have always known him.
---Dembie on 8/30/07


cont- All thru Bible God chose the 2nd. The 2nd man (Gentiles/Adam), the 2nd son (Cain/Abel), the 2nd king (Saul/David), the 2nd kingdom (Israel/Judah), 1st man sin entered by-Lucifer. 2nd man Jesus salvation by. If you will remember Eve ate the fruit 1st & she was woman.
---Dembie on 8/30/07


When God blesses, it is blessed forever. If incest was the way they were to multiply, it would still be alright. When God curses, it is cursed forever.All creation was not cursed. Just the specific ground. Which is where Jesus died on cross. Also,Bible shows that the tribes never left their father. Cain was upset when he was forced to. He met his Gentile wife in Nod. When Adam said you must leave father & mother he was saying you can't marry your sister.
---Dembie on 8/30/07


Dembie when Adam said those words there no people to marry except Adam and Eve's off-spring, who were all brothers and sisters. The word incest did not exist (in any language). It was not until Abraham's time that God told people to marry those who were not so closely related to them. We now have an enormous choice of who to marry but (unless you don't believe that we are all descended from Adam and Eve) we are still marrying a relative - just not such a close one.
---RitaH on 8/27/07


Dembie ... Biblical references please.
About 4 at least are needed to justify your statements
---alan_of_UK on 8/27/07




What is a sin today has always been a sin. God does not change. Incest has always been a sin. Adam said for the cause of getting a wife, man must leave father and mother. That means you can't marry a sister. Day 6 was creation of Gentiles named by Adam, meaning: Gen (beginning) tiles (clay bricks). Day 8 was Adam the first Jew named Man. Jesus was the Son of Man -- Adam.
---Dembie on 8/26/07


What is a sin today has always been a sin. God does not change. Incest has always been a sin. Adam said for the cause of getting a wife, man must leave father and mother. That means you can't marry a sister. Day 6 was creation of Gentiles named by Adam, meaning: Gen (beginning) tiles (clay bricks). Day 8 was Adam the first Jew named Man. Jesus was the Son of Man -- Adam.
---Dembie on 8/26/07


What is a sin today has always been a sin. God does not change. Incest has always been a sin. Adam said for the cause of getting a wife, man must leave father and mother. That means you can't marry a sister. Day 6 was creation of Gentiles named by Adam, meaning: Gen (beginning) tiles (clay bricks). Day 8 was Adam the first Jew named Man. Jesus was the Son of Man -- Adam.
---Dembie on 8/26/07


Google "Cain's wife" on Creation Ministries International website. All is explained, including why brother-sister intermarriage was no biological problem so close to creation, and not a sin because the prohibition was 2500 years later.
---Ktisophilos on 5/10/07


Maybe they, cain hung out with them neanderthal women.
---MikeM on 5/8/07




There was no such sin as incest then. This came much later when there were many more people on the earth. There was then much more choice of who to marry and they were then told not to marry really close relatives.
---Xanthi on 5/8/07


Rob regarding your statement 'Maybe they ( people of Nod ) were the desendants of the sons of heaven and the daughters of man.' I believe this is referring the those who believed in and worshipped God marrying those who did not. This does not change the fact that they would all have been close family, descendents of Adam and Eve, and some of them must have moved to a land called Nod. Eve was the mother of all living so they must have been her descendents.
---M.P. on 10/14/05


True the Bible is not a minute by minute detailed. But if Cain had know his wife sexually before they went to the land of Nod, then why would it be important to mention it when they arrived there?
Maybe they ( people of Nod ) were the desendants of the sons of heaven and the daughters of man. The Bible does make mention of that.
---Rob on 10/14/05


Rob,
The bible is not a minute by minute description of history. Just because it is mentioned that he "knew" her when he got there, is no indication whatsoever that he did not "know" her previously.
---Bruce5656 on 10/11/05


But why would he have waited until he had gotten to the land of Nod before he had sex with her? And besides When God banished him and he was fearful of his life,who would he have been afraid of. There could not have been that many people spread out very far from where Adam and Eve made their home after Eden. Related people have a tendency to stay close to the home fires so to speak. So where did the people of Nod come from?
---Rob on 10/11/05


I don't believe "incest" as we've grown to know it, existed until after The Law was given by Echad/God to Moses, due to man's sin nature breaking mankind's former state of perfection/innocence down to where Echad/God had to stop it, knowing the coming results we see today.

If "incest" as we now know it existed before The Law was given, would that make Echad's/God's creation a ba__ard race?

Additionally, how closer could Adam & Eve have been relative to their flesh?
---bob6749_[Elishama] on 10/8/05


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Paul, like I said previously, the world "after" the flood, was BASICALLY repopulated the same way it was "before" the flood. What can be simpler than that?

Could there have been two floods?
---bob6749_[Elishama] on 10/8/05


continued. If Cain married fairly young she would have had to be his sister. If he married a neice he wouldn't have been very young because he would have had to wait for one of his brothers, or sisters, to have a daughter old enough for him to marry. We are not told all the details about age or how much time had elapsed when this happened. The bible tells us just as much as we need to know.
---F.F. on 10/8/05


Rob. Eve was called the mother of all living, therefore there were no other children except the ones she gave birth to. Cain did not go the Nod to find a wife. He already had one and took her with him to Nod where he 'knew her' which means he had sexual relations with her. She would have been either his sister or a very close relative, depending on how much time had gone by since the creation. Continued.
---F.F. on 10/8/05


Read Genesis 4:16 Cain went to the land of Nod. And Cain knew his wife. So where did the people of Nod come from. Adam and Eve and their offsprings were busy but couldn't be that busy.Adam and Eve were God's first choosen. But not necisarily the only people on Earth
---Ro_b on 10/8/05


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Correction: In my previous post, it should have read "Amish" (*not* Quakers)! It is the "Amish" (in USA) who are having genetic problems from their many first cousin marriages.
---Daniel on 10/7/05


Bob. Originally the world was populated by first Adam and Eve and then their offspring marrying each other (brothers with sisters). After the flood there were 4 couples not one. Assuming that Noah and wife had no more children that still leaves 3 couples whose children could intermarry.That would be cousin with cousin, not brother with sister. I am not saying that there would not have been brother/sister marriages because it had not been forbidden then, but there was certainly more choice available.
---Paul on 10/2/05


The world after the flood was basically repopulated the same way it was repopulated before the flood until The Law was given to Moses.
---bob6749_9_[Elishama] on 10/1/05


Steve, maybe you only asked rhetorically, but I'll answer anyway: After the Flood, only first cousins needed to get things started; Noah's sons already had families. People still lived somewhat long lives then, so there could have been marriages of those spanning generations also; so, 2nd, 3rd, whatever cousins in a fairly short time. Today, "inbred populations" such as the Quakers have many genetic diseases!
---Daniel on 9/26/05


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OK, we've covered Adam and Eve's children...several times!

How was the world repopulated after the flood?
---Steve on 9/25/05


It wasn't incest prior to the time God specifically prohibited it. (Leviticus 18:9)
---Leon on 9/20/05


I am quite worried regarding this "incest" involved as a means to populate the earth. Laws against "incestuous unions" are developed much later as pointed by one blogger in another post. In other words, when Cain and Abel took their sisters as their wives, no incest was involved because there was no such thing as an idea of incest during that time.
---bebet_3754 on 9/19/05


The law forbidding marriage between close relatives was not given until the time of Moses (Leviticus 18-20). Remember that Abraham married his half-sister (Genesis 20:12). God blessed this union to produce the Hebrew people through Isaac and Jacob. It was not until some 400 years later that God gave Moses laws that forbade such marriages.
---Judit4846 on 9/17/05


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shira5965: God did *not* directly create anyone other than Adam and Eve! God can only create perfection, right? That's what He says about all He created in Genesis. So when did anyone other than Adam and Eve fall into sin? NEVER. After Eve/Adam sinned, God kicked them out of the Garden into a fallen sinful world.
---Daniel on 9/17/05


Hate to be so blunt, but someone here doesn't appear to 'have a clue' as to what incest means. READ Xanthi and WIVV's answers together for a good view of the truth. Incest is sex between ANY two close family members, not just parents and children, Eloy. Today that should include cousins too because our genes are so messed up!
---Daniel on 9/17/05


Shira where does it say that Adam and Eve were 'first' (of many)? I thought the bible said that God created man in His own image and said that it was not good for man to be alone so made him a help meet (someone fit to meet the help he needed). If God had just made Adam first, but was also making more, He (God) would not have been concerned that he would be alone would He? There would have been all these other people to keep him company (and to find a wife amongst).
---Paulette on 9/17/05


The Bible says in Gen 5:3-4 that Adam begot sons and daughters.
It also says in Gen 3:20 that Eve was the mother of all living.
There were no other special created human beings by God.
It is not hard to understand. Sin had not progressed and polluted the bloodline as it has today.
These two boys married near kin.
---Elder on 9/17/05


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Adam lived to be 930 years old, and he sired many sons and daughters, and the sons and daughters also had many sons and daughters, and these sons sons and daughters daughters had many sons and daughters, and so on and so on. Therefore Cain and Abel had many wives to choose from without incesting.
---Eloy on 9/16/05


Genesis does not say God didn't create lots of people. He just said Adam and Eve were first. That means someone was last, right??
---shira_5965 on 9/16/05


It"s true, they probably did have children via other family members - but - the gene pool was not yet "poluted" so they didn't have the danger of physically or mentally retarded children. (Some like to think angels help in this area, but that's impossible since angels are sexless beings.)
---WIVV on 9/16/05


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