Rhonda, I am appalled how you write such condescending and elitist remarks about the less fortunate on a CHRISTIAN forum. "Being poor is a choice"- would you make that statement to millions of starving CHILDREN in front of God?
You imply that rich people are extremely generous. Is this why the wealthiest 1% of Americans control 43% of the wealth, or why the top 20% control 93%? Or why many wealthy Africans live in $10+ million mansions while 77% in Africa live on less than $2 a day?
I asked a question which no one besides Nicholas dared to even consider:
"Do you think God believes the rich have actually worked hard enough to DESERVE their millions and billions, in a world where so many are starving?"
---Adam_Smith on 6/11/11|
We are all forgetting the impact of human greed in causing poverty and starvation
human greed does not cause starvation ...one only needs to go to an impoverished country to understand that starvation is perpetual ...it feeds itself ...the biological needs of sexuality are still met ...those in abject poverty still reproduce even though they themselves are starving and cannot buy food or take care of themselves they still pro-create
it happens here in America too
except in America the "greed" you speak of are those who are RICH and DONATE a VAST amount of money to resources that provide FREE things to those who sometimes outright REFUSE to provide for themselves
---Rhonda on 6/11/11|
Nicholas-- I think you are assuming that there is a fixed amount of money in the world. Thus if one person has more, another necessarily has less (This is a major fallacy of socialism.) It's sounds "logical" but in real life it is quite untrue.
Capitalism works because the wealth acquired by one inevitably produces more for others. As a business grows it not only makes more money, it requires more people to run it (employees, suppliers, advertisers, distributors)...more people working, more money earned.
It's not about the amount you have, but what you do with what you have. See the parable of the talents.
---Donna66 on 6/9/11|
We know the words Jesus said, "Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. Mt 19:24 NIV Yet it depends upon the heart of the person who has wealth. For here in this Scripture some may assert that it would be impossible for any who are rich to go to Heaven. With men this impossible but not with God for with God all things are possible. It is the faith in Christ that gets us to heaven Hallelujah, not how rich we are or are not. For if we have Christ - what is wealth? What are the world's riches compared to the glories of Christ!
---ivan9398 on 6/9/11|
We are all forgetting the impact of human greed in causing poverty and starvation. Even as a believer in capitalism, I must admit that the rich being too rich is a major cause of starvation and poverty.
The average American earns about $50,000. One who earns $1 million earns 20 times more. The question is, do those earning millions really work 20+ times harder than the average American? Common sense tells me this is not practically possible. Of course, people such as celebrities are rewarded for their impact on society, not just their hard work. But should they be rewarded to the extent at which thousands of children will be condemned to starvation as a result? I can vouch that God would say no.
---Nicholas on 6/9/11|
Wealth? Wrong? I think the sin in being "Wealthy" is truly LOVING MONEY! Most of the men that God used as far as bible is concern where "Wealthy" However, I think that our wealth is based on our abilities to share them with your fellow christian or non believer. In other words, if God would ask you to renounce to all your worldly possessions, would you? For him? For your Father? Would you trust in HIM?
---SAROD on 6/8/11|
Mima-- If you've been on the mission field in a foreign country, you know how "rich" most American are, even if they don't consider themselves so. I've been in a number of different 3rd world countries and can truly say that the "poor" in the USA are "wealthy" in comparison to many.
If you didn't suspect your friend was wealthy, he probably is using his wealth wisely! Good for him.
---Donna66 on 6/8/11|
The rich has as much chance of going to heaven as the poor. The playing field is level, so to speak.No big I's and little "you's"in God's sight. But the rich do have to be extra careful that their money does not become their God. It is an easy thing to do when you become rich. You can become really corrupt and use the money in a bad way. God will not take second place in our lives. He should be first and not money. Not an easy thing to do. But it can be done. Every one loves money, to some degree. Very tricky,indeed.But we should make sure that we do nothing unscrupulous to get that money,either
---Robyn on 6/8/11|
I have a friend, we have been together on the mission field many times, who once casually made this statement to me. I have so much money that I embarrassed by it. I knew that money was not a problem but I was totally shocked to hear him make that statement.
---mima on 6/8/11|
But still, although rich people only harm others indirectly, the fact is that they do harm more people than almost anyone else.
how ignorant or pure DELUSIONAL anyone could be to hold that irrational belief
The RICH provide more jobs for honest working people to make money to have homes, food, gas for heat etc
The RICH donate MORE to libraries, charities, and other FREE organizations that provide for POOR ...like the gas and food they cannot afford etc
FACT is that POOR people harm MORE indirectly than the RICH ...just look around you it is hard not to miss that fact
RICH is a choice and being POOR is a choice ...negatives of abject poverty far exceed any excesses in being RICH
---Rhonda on 6/7/11|
Adam Smith-- I don't know why I'm bothering to respond to you since you've already declared your unwillingness to listen.
There is ONLY one place money comes from, and that's work. (somebody's work...physical or mental). God doesn't pass out dollars on the basis of need. I'm sure you think He should. But that wouldn't be fair... rewarding those who don't work the same as those who do. His distribution is NOT uniform.
Work is necessary for men and civilization to thrive. If everyone expects to be rewarded unconditionally, who will bother to perform the sometimes unpleasant tasks of making the planet habitable? Jesus told us we must give to the poor, but He did not condemn the rich for being rich.
---Donna66 on 6/3/11|
Let's examine the last great command of Christ.
"Love your nieghbor, as you love yourself".
If you are rich enough for healthcare, and you vote against a national healthcare system like that of Canada, then I would conclude you don't love your Nieghbor!
Canada started their single payer health care system by raising the tax on alcoholic beverages. America is being lied too by every president. The rich and powerful are the Republicans and the Tea Party. If you don't love your nieghbor, you don't love God. If you don't love God, you're a false Christian and NOT going to heaven.
Obama's healthcare plan is a joke, but it's the best he can do with the rich and powerful pulling the strings of a puppet president.
---Randallism on 6/3/11|
Does God believe that rich people have actually worked hard enough to deserve that much money, especially given that millions of His children have virtually nothing? If I had to bet my life on it, I'd guess that according to God's fair and uniform judgment, very few who have millions actually worked hard enough to deserve it.
Deep down, anyone can gauge (with reasonable accuracy) what God feels they truly deserve. If one's conscience tells them they don't deserve so much money, God EXPECTS them to donate a large fraction of what they don't need. A true Christian takes only what God feels he should have, rather than taking whatever he can get by exploiting the broken system, justifying it by saying it's legal.
---Adam_Smith on 5/8/11|
Is it true that the rich will go to Heaven? Discuss
Abraham, Job, david, Solomon, jacob, Nebuchanazer, were all very rich and all assured to be in heaven.
---FRANCIS on 4/5/11|
But still, although rich people only harm others indirectly, the fact is that they do harm more people than almost anyone else.
If you think you can convince me otherwise, feel free to try.
---Adam_Smith on 2/23/11
With logic like the above who could convince you of anything other than it's bad to be blessed. Bad to work. Bad to invest. Reward is bad. Its bad to succeed. It's bad they have more than Adam Smith. Adam Smith had 50million he would donate it all. Shut down those nasty ole stores and factories. Get that money and donate it.....once. Once since the source is gone.
---Trav on 3/31/11|
If you live just about anywhere in America, you are considered the Top 10 richest percentage of all people in the entire world. Even if you're considered poor. Your resources here are limitless.
Therefore, I'm glad my riches have nothing to do with salvation by GRACE through FAITH.
BTW... when I ever start giving by percentage as much as Bernie Marcus or even Oprah(who many Christians have a beef against for differing reasons), and other super-rich folks, then I will be a greater giver than I currently am now.
Money doesn't qualify nor disqualify you for Heaven.
Not being a giver means you don't operate by Heaven's principles. Same applies to unforgiveness and crudeness in saved, going-to-Heaven... Christians.
---Legends on 3/31/11|
My 10-year-old grandson states and he would like to be poor. Why his mother asked? Because if you are poor people will give you things. Pretty solid reasoning I would say.
---mima on 3/30/11|
Does anyone know the reference to the parable [?] of the rich man going to heaven and being led to his abode therein, to discover that he has been given a hovel, in accordance with his miserliness on earth.
---Nioca on 3/30/11|
Adam_Smith-- How many people are provided with jobs building that "Ten Million dollar house"...architectual planning,all construction trades..plus providers of cement,brick, glass,paint, flooring etc... not to forget the truckers who transport these goods. And then there is maintaining it (plumbing, electrical, cleaning, decorating), selling appliances for it, insuring it, financing it, maintaining the landscaping for it.
Actually that's one reason for our present high unemployment. Nobody is building.
I am a Capitalist. It is the only system that works in the real world. Socialism stifles motivation, innovation and robs people of individuality and the joy of achievement by ones own efforts. That's my final word.
---Donna66 on 2/24/11|
Adam Smith ... What do you think happens to the $50 million that the person spends "on themselves?
It goes to provide employment for others. The people that make the cars he buys, the girls who style his hair, the waiters in the hotels and restaurants he frequents.
---alan8566_of_uk on 2/24/11|
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It is said that rich people are bigger sinners then others. But when a person sins little, he is still sinning. It does not mean the rich sin more, and those who are not rich sin less. Comparing a rich man with a rapist is wrong. They are both sinners. Another thing is that salvation is by grace through faith. If the rich are not saved, they are already heading to hell, sin once against the law, you break all the laws. If they are saved, there is no condemnation to those who are in Christ. If we are going to judge a save person by the the sins they commit, how many sins disqualifies him? All sin is sin. It is sin to be bias against those who have more then we do.
---Mark_V. on 2/24/11|
Who is rich? A person with only one car in the Hamptons. A person with a car in Haiti. It is all relative.
It is true the highest giving state per population in US is Mississippi. The poorest state based on income is Mississippi.
---Scott on 2/23/11|
Mark V, that is just the way I see it. Rich people INDIRECTLY harm hundreds or more with every mansion they buy, while rapists DIRECTLY harm one victim at a time. Besides the "indirect" vs. "direct" factor, the end result is the same to me: innocent victims end up suffering either way. Now, since rape is a heinous crime, I'm not going to say that rich people are worse than rapists.
But still, although rich people only harm others indirectly, the fact is that they do harm more people than almost anyone else. Donating $5 million and then spending $50 million on yourself is a net LOSS as far as helping people goes...a huge net loss. If you think you can convince me otherwise, feel free to try.
---Adam_Smith on 2/23/11|
Adam, I don't know what brought that burst of anger out of you, and had no idea answering you would to that. If I had known, I would never have answered you.
Second, I do not absolve anyone for their sins, rich are poor. That is why I mentioned sins was the problem not the money. They will be judge by what they do by God not me. I cannot see the hearts of every rich person or poor so I do not judge them for what I do not know. Please excuse me for answering you.
---Mark_V. on 2/22/11|
Samuel, I will forgive you for your ignorance, but did you realize that my comment was a SATIRE of Mark V.'s original comment? Mark V. seeks to absolve rich people of any responsibility in the unnecessary deaths of the poor:
"Concerning those who die, their time is up on the calender of God."
Perhaps you did realize that, but you just have double standards like every single capitalist out there. I strongly suspect this is the case. You have a right to buy a 10 million dollar house and "enjoy" it with your family, but 100 poor people do not even have the right to have their family members alive, because in order to save their lives, you may have to move to a $250,000 house, which you won't do.
---Adam_Smith on 2/22/11|
Adam--Smith: Being rich doesn't need to be "condoned". It is not illegal NOR immoral. Rape is both.
Riches are a benefit to many besides the "rich" person. Rape is always cruel and hurtful. You are not being realistic or logical.
---Donna66 on 2/22/11|
Adam Smith you have accused GOD of picking women to be raped. You accuse GOD of sin and being an arbitray tyrant. That is a false charge.
Rich people are saved the same way anyone is saved. By the Grace of GOD. The Bible lists man you became rich serving GOD. They will go to heaven.
A poor person can love money and not love others just as much as any rich person. If your god is money you will not be saved. But money will not keep you out.
---Samuel on 2/22/11|
What sounds "heaven-worthy" to you doesn't matter.Only what God considers "heaven-worthy" matters! HE is the judge of mankind. Are YOU worthy of heaven?
The Bible says (Rom 3:23) For ALL have sinned, and come short of the glory of God... both rich and poor. It says (Eze 18:20) The soul that sinneth, it shall die... rich and poor alike. Unless you do something about your sins, you'll never be fit for heaven .
God's only Son Jesus, Pure and Righteous, willingly suffered a sinners death on the cross, in place of you and me. We deserve it. He did not. Ask Him to forgive YOUR sins, whether you are rich or poor.
(Jn 3:16b)..whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
---Donna66 on 2/22/11|
Mark, let me condone rapists in the ridiculous way that you condone rich people.
"Mark, you are still profiling rapists. We all lust after arbitrary people, just some go much further than others. It's not that rapists wish to violate or harm anyone...they just cannot control their sexual desires. Concerning those who get raped, it is their fate in the eyes of God. Possibly, if rapists controlled themselves, no innocent victims would be violated in such a horrific way, but that is only if these victims weren't destined to be raped
Interestingly, rapists can only harm 1 person at a time, but rich people harm hundreds with every mansion they buy.
---Adam_Smith on 2/22/11|
All monetary kinds go to heaven. Irregardless of how much money you have, those who die without sin go to heaven, and those who die with sin go to hell.
---Eloy on 2/22/11|
Adam, it sounds like youre just bitter because youre not rich.
Im far from rich but to profile all rich men the same is still unfair.
Middle class and lower class are just as guilty of being extravangant when they could be donating that money to help the poor.
And lets be honest here. Noone in America knows what "poor" is. Our "poor" people may not have air conditioning and digital cable, but they have a home, food and clothing. Thats not poor.
---CraigA on 2/22/11|
No one needs to speculate on what rich people do with their money. Their residences, means of transportation, and haircuts tell enough of the story.
Donna, you asked me what I do with my money? Here's a hint: if every rich person was content with being able to spend 50 times the money I spend, there would be few or none starving in the world today. And I am willing to bet my life that few rich people, if any, have worked literally FIFTY TIMES HARDER than I have.
As far as heaven: Ignoring Others' Needs to Satisfy Your Greed...that doesn't sound like heaven-worthy behavior to me...
---Adam_Smith on 2/21/11|
Adam, you are still profiling the rich. We are all rich, some more then others. It is not the money, it's the sin of all people. That is all that matters to God. God looks at the heart. Concerning those who die, their time is up on the calender of God. No one passes their time. It could be that if millionaires give more money more would live, but only if they were destine to. Because no one escapes the time of death God has set for them. What we as Christians care about is, what can we do ourselves to help others. We all need to sacrifice. Jesus mentions what we didn't give to Him, meaning what we sacrifice of ourselves for others.
---Mark_V. on 2/22/11|
Adam Smith-- You really don't KNOW what "99%" of "rich" people do with their money, nor why. What do you do with yours?
And what does this have to do with Heaven?
---Donna66 on 2/21/11|
Mark, here's a little statistic for you, verify it if you don't believe me. If the richest 10% of Americans collectively gave up just one-third of their wealth (which would still leave them with millions and billions), they could do as much as the remaining 90% can do with ALL their money.
Cost-benefit analysis: If a middle-class family were to sacrifice EVERY fun thing that costs money, they could save maybe a few lives at best...AND their own lives would be pretty depressing. But if a rich family of 4 were to give up their $2 million dollar house and move to a $500,000 house, they could literally save hundreds of lives. And in most parts of the country, they would STILL have more space in the house than they can use for 4 people.
---Adam_Smith on 2/21/11|
Adam, while you are right about those who have millions, the same can be said about those who don't. The problem is not the money, the problem is the heart of the person. Sin. Greed, pride an power. The same can be said about those of us. Are you willing to give up your flat Screen tv and give the money to a hungry person? Or sell your new car, get an old one, and give the money to a single parent who is struggling? The only difference is that the millionaire's have more money then we do. We both act the same. We profile them (millionaire's) because they have more then we do. God judges the heart. We don't get into heaven by our merits, good thing, otherwise no one would make it in.
---Mark_V. on 2/21/11|
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Donna66, I forgot to say something important. The problem with 99% of rich people is that they are completely unwilling to SACRIFICE any of their frivolous luxury goods in order to save lives or ease the suffering of others. Of course, almost everyone in this world (except for sadists) would gladly help others in need as long as they don't have to give up anything to do it. In fact, it is human nature to get lots of satisfaction out of helping people. What bothers me is that probably less than 5% of people out there would give up a mansion or a Ferrari in order to save a mother of 5 who has CURABLE cancer.
---Adam_Smith on 2/20/11|
Duh? Try Abraham, David and Solomon.
---larry on 2/20/11|
A rich man may give all to the poor and still not gain eternal life.
1Cr 13:3-7 And if I give all my possessions to feed the poor, and if I surrender my body to be burned, but do not have love, it profits me nothing. Love is patient, love is kind and is not jealous, love does not brag and is not arrogant,does not act unbecomingly, it does not seek its own, is not provoked, does not take into account a wrong suffered,
does not rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth,
bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
1Jo 5:11 And the testimony is this, that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son.
---Donna66 on 2/19/11|
It seems like Donna66 missed the point. Do you realize that even if someone who makes a billion per year donates $900 million annually, the other $100 million/year that they are keeping for themselves can only be used to satisfy their FRIVOLOUS material whims instead of helping thousands MORE people?
In other words, thousands of people are indirectly condemnded to die or suffer as a result of ONE rich person keeping $100 million instead of $100,000 per year (which is still more than 90% of the population has) for themselves. Whether or not God would be okay with that, you decide.
---Adam_Smith on 2/19/11|
Donna66 you are correct. First of all it is not by our merits that we are saved. If a rich man has believed by faith in Jesus Christ and His works on the cross he is saved. No where does it state that if you are rich you do not go to heaven. First you would have to have a bar that he would not be able to pass as to the amount of money. I'm rich compared to someone in Somalia. Many are more rich then others.
---Mark_V. on 1/11/11|
Jesus never said the "rich" won't go to Heaven. You talk of starving children or the suffering sick. Well, the more money one has, the more he is able to give. Many "rich" people have given millions or billions of dollars to those in need.
As in the parable of the talents, we are not all given the same amount. The Bible says "to whom much is given, much is required."
Also the man who is able to "save" money for his old age, is "giving" to those who might otherwise have to scrimp to support him. If he is able to "save" for a child's education, he is sparing taxpayers ( or giving them) the cost of a student loan.
---Donna66 on 1/10/11|
I don't think anyone who chose to buy a mansion instead of feeding 100 starving people for life can go to heaven. I don't think someone can go to heaven if they chose to buy a mansion instead of devoting that money towards medical care for our brothers, wives, daughters, and father with curable diseases.
Nothing more to say
---Adam_Smith on 1/9/11|
I fell that one of the reasons that Jesus made the statement was because he knew of the future prophecy that everyone would have to receive the mark of the beast in order to keep those riches....so whether or not you are rich at this moment, at the time of the marking, you will make your ultimate choice then.....your money or your soul. Revelation is very clear on it.
---Eddie on 12/24/07|
Forget all the technicalities. Bottom line-what is good and what is not? A gold watch or food for a starving child? A new car or medicine for a dying baby? A facelift or comfort for a disabled person? Come on, we all know the answers. People need to quit fooling themselves. Deep down, you know what's right and what's wrong, and you make the choices. This God knows.
---chris on 9/2/07|
Being rich may influence a person's willingness to believe in God. A rich person could be prideful, therefore not see the need for a saviour. This is not always the case though. John 14:6 Jesus said, I am the way, the truth and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
---Ulrika on 4/9/07|
The Bible is unequivocal on this. Riches disqualify you from heaven. No Christian should buy luxuries when people are starving in the world.
These interpretations of 'needle' and 'harder' are playing with words in order to avoid an uncomfortable truth.
---Mark on 8/22/06|
Yes there will be wealthy people in Heaven. God knows how much money we each have and He knows how we acquired it and what we do with it. Providing for our family when young and for our own old age is better than expecting to be baled out by others later when we are financially embarrassed. Helping others along the way and financially supporting our home church and missionaries etc. are all part of what God expects of those into whose hands He has given plenty.
---emg on 2/25/06|
"Yes"! The only requirement for salvation is to know Christ as personal Saviour. Anything is else is putting an "attachment" onto the method of salvation established by God. Because of not understanding Mt. 19:24, some take this as meaning the rich can't go to heaven. All Christ said is it would be hard because they desire riches too much. Space restrictions will not allow me go into detail.
---WIVV on 2/25/06|
Lisette, it says that it is harder, not impossible. It is the love of money that is the problem, not the money itself. I believe that there will be many rich people in Heaven.
---M.P. on 11/5/05|
Lisette, it's hard but not impossible. The "eye of the needle" was a very small passageway through the walls surrounding Jerusalem. In order for a man with a camel to get through, the camel had to be completely unloaded and crawl through on its knees. It can be done, but it's hard.
---Ann5758 on 11/5/05|
Well then why did Jesus say "It is HARDER for the rich to enter heaven than it is for a camel to fit through the eye of a needle." Riches bind us to material posessions (the earth). Also, Did the Lord also say that those who are first on earth will be last in the next life? I say keep what you need... giving yourself enough to live on for years to come... sell and GIVE AWAY what you do not need to many people who do need :-)
---Lisette2 on 11/4/05|
It doesn't matter how much money you have. If you are born-again then your name is written in the Book of Life and you will live with Jesus forever.
---joe on 10/29/05|
Our riches will neither get us into Heaven nor will they keep us out. However, they will, for many, make it more difficult because the love of money is a very strong feeling. Those who are storing up their riches to a greater extent than just being sensible with money (whilst much of the world is starving and homeless) will find it hard to accept Jesus as their Saviour because He asks us to care for others. To do so we sometimes have to use some of that thing we hold too dear - money.
---M.P. on 10/23/05|
The other word used is "odunao" which is only used by Luke and only used 4 times. 2 times are in this parable. Another instance was when Paul was saying good-bye to the Ephesians (Acts 20:38). The other instance was when Mary found that Yeshua was not with them after leaving the temple (Luke 2:48). In the other two insances it is normally translated as "sorrow." It is more of a mental anguish.
---David7647 on 10/23/05|
The rich man is also identified by having 5 brothers. This is either Judah or Levi. Leah had 6 sons and 1 daughter. One of the sons would claim that they had 5 full blooded brothers.
The "torment" described is from two translated Greek words. The first is "basanois" which originally meant "to purify" ie to purify a metal by fire (cf. Job 23:10).
---David7647 on 10/23/05|
The idea that all rich people will go to Hell comes from the parable of Lazarus and the Rich Man (Luke 16:19+). Most just take the parable from the grossest sence.
The rich man is identified by his clothing in v. 19. He wears purple, only worn by royalty. He also wears linnen, only worn by priests. Leviticus 19:6 God calls the children of Israel a nation of royal priesthood.
---David7647 on 10/23/05|
A big distinction seems to be being missed here by some. Yes, Jesus said it's harder for a rich man to enter Heaven than go through the eye of a needle. But, He never said having money precluded anyone from Heaven. Money itself isn't the root of all Evil; THE LOVE of money is. God blesses those who are faithful to Him; sometimes the blessing's monetary. Look at the man who owns the Chick-Fil-A franchise. There's a perfect example of God blessing one of His servant's monetarily for keeping Him first.
---Heather on 10/22/05|
so chuck norris,pat boone and cliff richardson will enter the kingdom of God?thats an absurd statement lol..delta force 2 was good though.i just dont see how you can know another mans eternal destiny,maybe before he does?..
---joe on 10/22/05|
It is hard to justify a wealthy Christian existence. The systemic apparatus of power, particularly capitalism, which is formed under the conspicuous premises of self-interest and profit, effectuates evil and insulates individuals from feeling directly responsible for that evil. Jesus demands complete loyalty, and for the rich person, that means rejecting the existing social structure in favor of the "Kingdom of God." This is hard to do for anyone, but it is even harder for a rich person.
---Just_an_Atheist on 10/16/05|
Absolutely, providing they have accepted Christ as their personal Saviour and have accepted His gift of atonement on the cross. There are a number of wealthy people who will get into heaven..Pat Boone, Chuck Norris, Cliff Richards. God does not forbid us to have personal gain- He wants us to use what we have wisely and for His service, but most of all, he wants us to come to Him. These people and many many more have done all that, and I will be talking with them in the Kingsom.
---Ann5758 on 9/25/05|
Jesus said it was harder for a rich man to enter heaven than for a camel to go through the eye of a needle. In the original greek, the word needle literally meant "sewing needle". We have to choose, money or God. Can't worship both. Look at the new testament christians. They had nothing, forsaking all to follow Christ and died doing it.
---Julie3763 on 9/23/05|
I think the problem comes down to the fact that wealthy people often have a tendency to feel self-sufficient, like they can manage quite well without God.
---DoryLory on 9/23/05|
"To whom much is given, much is expected." A rich person can get to heaven the same as a poor person, by accepting Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, but if he/she is blessed with monetary wealth, they should also help the needy, charities and churches accordingly. We are all rich with God's blessings.
---Nan on 9/23/05|
I have lived in the third world several times. Few in this country come anywhere close to being poor. I know that with my mid-level bureaucrat salary, my 12 year old car and one bedroom apartment, I have more than 99% of the world. I am rich but I plan on being in heaven. Unfortunately in this country rich equates success. The decline of the family, drugs, crime will not undo this great country but greed will.
---randy on 9/23/05|
Please read Luke 6:24-26; 16:19-31.
---Eloy on 9/23/05|
The rich will go to heaven like anyone else, accepting Christ as Savoir. It may be harder since many of them love their riches. Christ compared the rich going to heaven with a camel going through the "eye of the needle. (At night the gates of the cities were closed for potection. Late arrivials had to through the the "eye of the needle or camel gate." To get through the camel gate, the camel had to be unloaded, and had to crawl through on it's bended legs to enter the city."
---WIVV on 9/22/05|
I'm sure that when we get to Heaven there will be people who were rich on earth and those who were poor. However, riches can corrupt which is why we are told it will be harder for a rich man to enter. There will also be many people in hell who were poor on earth and those who were rich. It is not our wealth or our lack of it that will determine where we spend eternity. Our acceptance or rejection of Jesus' sacrifice for us will determine that.
---Paul on 9/22/05|
Of course there will be individuals in heaven who had a lot of earthly goods and were increased in goods because they were faithful stewards (JOB, Abraham) The Lord is not against wealth when it is used proberly.
---Pierr7958 on 9/22/05|
The haves are suppose to share and give to the have nots. Many of God's real children are poor. Jesus who owns it all, was homeless on earth. And the poor need help, but many just pass them by and neglect to help them. And most rich people are materialistic and trust in their riches; this separates them from God, and therefore it is very difficult for the rich to enter into heaven. But what is impossible with man, is possible with God.
---Eloy on 9/22/05|
What do you call rich? I know many who are rich in grace, rich in knowledge, rich in fervor for history or rich in family values. I look forward to seeing them in heaven. If you are talking money in the bank, or cars in the garage, or frequent flyers, or fancy electronic gadgets, or the latest threads, they will have a harder time convincing God that He is their God. Most new milionaires in America are self made. See "The Millionaire Next Door" for instructions how you can get there.
---chuck on 9/22/05|
Bible says it is easier for a camel to pass through eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter kingdom of heaven. with richness comes selfishness and pride and these are things that can keep one from heaven.
---Shaz on 9/22/05|
If you are coming from a 'word faith' prespective, the answer is NO. Money guarantees you nothing in this life. Look at the story of the rich man, to whom Jesus said, "then go, sell all your possessions, and give the money to the poor. Then come follow me."
You see, it really is easier for "a camel to go through the eye of a needle" than for a rich, prideful man to enter God's kingdom.
---Dave on 9/22/05|
ANYONE can go to Heaven IF they have repented of their sins, and accepted Jesus Christ as their Savior. When Jesus mentioned the rich man not entering into Heaven , He was speaking to the fact that the rich man`s trust was in his riches rather than his need of a Savior . Caution; if we are stingy with what God has blessed us, once again we become as the rich man. Putting anything ahead of Christ is a sin; including the love of money.
---norma on 9/22/05|
Makes no difference if you are rich or a beggar in the street. You can not take the wealth with you. God accepts our souls not our riches.
---M. on 9/22/05|