The Orig. Books aren't written in Chapters & Verses.
They were added later by the Church.
I also have in my collection of Bibles an old Gideon's that IS WORD for WORD to the KJV, But, has no Ch. or verses in it. |
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---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 4/24/08 |
How can we understand a Biblical truth without Biblical scriptures? I believe culture has a lot to do with the verse thirty-four. As previously stated women prophesized in the OT and NT (1Cor. 11:5) I agree with the one who mention the tongues issue, speaking out of turn or with disorder will confuse the message and those who needs to hear it. |
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---Otis on 4/24/08 |
These were Greek churches (Ephesus, Corinth). Among the Greeks public women were disreputable. To Greeks, for a woman to speak in public would cause the remark that she was shameless. Virtuous women were secluded. Hence it would be a shame for women to speak in the church assembly. Please note there is no hint of such a prohibition to any churches except Grecian. Wherever it would be shameful, women ought not to speak. Also see in the Bible that many (Jewish) women prophesied and/or were prophets.. |
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---Angie on 4/5/08 |
The guy asked for an explanation of First Corinthians 14:34-35, not to have scriptures thrown in his face. Christlike replies only? Okay |
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---Susej on 10/6/07 |
Let me enlighten you, God's is not against men or women. The Word of God is the Word of God.
1 Corinthians 11:3 (King James Version) But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
1 Corinthians 11:4 (King James Version) Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head. |
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---doug7835 on 4/23/07 |
1 Corinthians 11:5 (King James Version) But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.
1 Corinthians 11:7 (King James Version) For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man. |
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---doug7835 on 4/23/07 |
1 Corinthians 11:8 (King James Version) For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man.
1 Corinthians 11:9 (King James Version) Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man. |
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---doug7835 on 4/23/07 |
1 Corinthians 11:8 (King James Version) For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man.
1 Corinthians 11:9 (King James Version) Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man. |
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---doug7835 on 4/23/07 |
1 Corinthians 11:12 (King James Version) For as the woman is of the man, even so is the man also by the woman; but all things of God.
the woman was made for man, man also by the woman. ; but all things of GOD. This has nothing to do with putting down women. |
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---doug7835 on 4/23/07 |
2 Timothy 3:16 (King James Version) ALL SCRIPTURE is GIVEN by INSPIRATION OF GOD, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
2 Timothy 3:17 (King James Version) That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
This is the Word of God not the word of man.
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---doug7835 on 4/23/07 |
1 Timothy 2:9 (King James Version) In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
1 Timothy 2:10 (King James Version) But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works. |
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---doug7835 on 4/23/07 |
1 Timothy 2:11 (King James Version) Let the woman LEARN in SILENCE with all subjection.
1 Timothy 2:12 (King James Version) But I suffer not a WOMAN. to teach, nor to USURP AUTHORITY OVER A MAN but to be in SILENCE.
1 Timothy 2:13 (King James Version) For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
1 Timothy 2:14 (King James Version) And Adam was NOT DECEIVED, but the woman being DECEIVED was in the transgression.
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---doug7835 on 4/23/07 |
1 Timothy 2:15 (King James Version) Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety. |
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---doug7835 on 4/23/07 |
Well, the whole world can be against women, but Jesus is not against women. I can enlighten everyone on that fact. I just happen to be one. So I know. |
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---catherine on 4/23/07 |
Religion is the source of all our problems. It is not rare for religion to put down women, since awr an religion were created by men! |
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---Lillet on 4/23/07 |
During the time that Paul wrote this to the Corinthian church the women sat on one side of the church and the men on the other. The women had questions to ask their husbands across the isle and by doing so they caused a disturbance in the church. |
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---Rickey on 12/6/05 |
Not that it has been mentioned yet, however there are many that believe Paul did not write these two verses. There is one early manuscript that has these two verses at the end of the chapter rather than in the "right place" where they were written.
It is true about the manuscript, however it is a Latin (not Greek) dating from the 5th cent. that does misplace these two verses. Some believe that they were just forgotten and re-inserted later. |
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---David7647 on 10/28/05 |
It is pretty cut and dry - no mysterious twist on the text here. In the church meeting, women are to remain silent. The actual truth of the scripture sometimes goes against what we desire - but that gives no one permission to ignore it. |
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---mike on 10/24/05 |
This mysogynist bit of scripture is not always atributed to Paul as it was written as a side note on the original text, after 1 Cor. 14:40. Geesh, have faith in God, but don't take things written by man so literally. |
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---Mack on 10/24/05 |
As I see, the verses are a part of the whole chapter (on tongues). Paul also addresses women not to preach (speaking in the church)here & in other scriptures. The term prophesy doesn't always mean a prophet either, it means the type of message delivered. The basic fact here is one of church order. It has been lost in today's church sanctuary. Just look around at the people visiting before & after a service. The room God openly speaks to His flock should be respected by reverence, not chit-chat. |
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---mike_fl on 10/7/05 |
, James, i know this passage might sound harsh, but we are to accept all of scripture, not just those parts that are politically correct. |
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---steve on 10/1/05 |
James, the context starts in v.29, talking about the prophets. When v.34 says, "Let your women keep silence", it's not all women, but the prophets' women.
If it were all women, how could the single women obey v.35 which tells them to "ask their husbands"? V.36 confirms this because the Word of God did not come out from the prophets' wives, but unto them only.
However, the Word of God would come out from a prophetess like Anna in Luke 2:36. |
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---Jeffrey on 9/29/05 |
a point that i think is missed is that previous to telling women to be silent.. it tells the general church to be silent vs.28, vs.30 so this indicates that men must likewise in certain occaisions do the same as is directed to women who would speak out of turn or in a disrupting manner. but its safe to say that like the men.. upon learning how to behave in a church service, the woman being properly educated in the things of God may have her turn as God would use her. |
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---jianra on 9/26/05 |
Additionally, the underlying reason for this rule to stop interruptions in the church was that the women in those times lacked the education of the men as a whole. |
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---bob6749_[Elishama] on 9/23/05 |
It is self-explanatory to me. It is straightforward, so take it verbatimly just as it is written. |
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---Eloy on 9/23/05 |
Women used to sit separately from the men in the synogogue, sometimes behind a curtain. Possibly they still do. When women didn't understand something they would sometimes call to their husbands for an explanation. This is distracting just the same as when people chat in church when the pastor is preaching. They were being told to wait until they got home and then ask their husbands. |
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---Xanthi on 9/23/05 |
In that verse it simply means that in the church the men is authorize to have office according in the bible times. cause the women is in under in the authority of a man. then she need to submit to her husband. that is not mean to keep silence is not to give opinion but she can give under the supervision of her husband. |
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---jay_almonte on 9/23/05 |
the best interpretation is probably to see Paul as not forbidding women to manifest spiritual gifts in the service but, rather he prohibits undisciplined discussion that would distrub the service (see 1 corinthians 11:5; Acts 2:8; 21:9). |
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---Elan on 9/23/05 |
asically this passage means that no one should talk out of turn in the church but, go to the head of the church, which is the pastor and ask your questions or talk about your problem. it is not for everyone to here. |
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---marsa on 9/22/05 |
the meaning for that is the women are under the authority of Man because she was created second and she was created as a helpmate for the man and she isn't to be usurping authority over a man because he is the head just like Jesus is the head of the church so should the woman to under subjection of the man |
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---Carrie on 9/22/05 |
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