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Scripture For Salvation In Tongues

I have been raised as an apostolic, always believed in the Holy Ghost, speaking in tongues as essential for salvation, but I dont know how to prove it using the Bible. I know we must be born again of water and spirit, but where does it say that speaking in tongues is being born of the spirit?

Moderator - You will not find any scriptures that state so because speaking in tongues isn't related to your salvation; it is a spiritual gift. Romans 10:9-10

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Joe, this is where the ground gets loose as most charismatics confuse tongues and the so-called prayer language. The prayer language is not what happened at Pentacost where for example you would fly to Brazil and be empowered by the Holy Spirit to speak fluent Portugese.
Pentacost was the reverse of Babel and evangelism under total control of God not the personal self-indulgent worship we see in many charistmatic congregations today.
Pentacost was corporate edification and about as far as you can get from the personal experience of a prayer language which edifies only one.
It is widely abused and practiced often without interpretation in direct opposition to Pauline teaching.
---larry on 6/18/10


Thank you, moderator. An excellent answer.
---catherine on 6/18/10


"Therefore with joy will you all draw water out of the wells of Yeshuah. Now if any person have not the Spirit from Christ, he is none of his. If you all then err, knowing how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him? The water that I will give a person will be in the person a well of water springing up into everlasting life. The person that relies on me, as the scripture has said, out of that one's belly will flow rivers of living water. For the speaking in a tongue, not the man speaks, but of God: for no one follows, but the Spirit speaks mysteries." Is.12:3+ Rm.8:9+ Lk.11:13+ Jn.4:14+ I Cor.14:2.
---Eloy on 6/18/10


Mark 16:17-18,
"17-And these signs shall follow them that believe, (1)In my name shall they cast out devils, (2) they shall speak with new tongues,

18-(3) the They shall take up serpents, and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them,(4) they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover."

If you fail to have any of these signs does that mean you're not saved?
---mima on 6/18/10


It Is essential from The Salvation of God. You Are saved by God, HIS way Not mans ways. There is less of Jesus name Apostolic Pentecost Churches in the world. Strait Is the gate & narrow is the way & be but few to find it. Fear ye not little flock for ye are the Fathers good pleasure.

Mans ways is the rcc & her offspring churches that are here Prov.14 v 12, Matt.15 v 9 & came from here 2nd.Cor,11 v's 14 - 15. The apostate churches has salvation plans once saved always saved, the sinners prayer, easy believism, no works salvation etc in the which Are All Lies. There is more of the Man-made relig-org's churches in the world. For broad is the way that leads to destruction(hell) & be many to go in thereat.
---Lawrence on 6/18/10




No,Gift of the Baptism of the Holy Ghost with tongues as the evidence,is not required before one is forgiven and begins living for God. Tongues aren't the Gift,the Baptism of the Holy Ghost is the Gift. There are numerous people who have come to Christ,freed from sin,who haven't received the Gift of the Baptism of Holy Ghost,even though they are seeking that Gift,for years and years later. Some over 20 years,for me it was from age 11 to about age 22. Thats 11 years but I know I was accepted by God and reborn,forgiven,as his child,a new creature. You must be forgiven,saved as some say,to receive the Gift of the Holy Ghost with tongues,without that cleansing the Holy Ghost will not come to dwell in an unclean Temple. Salvation comes first.
---Darlene_1 on 5/31/10


It boils mine, too.
---catherine on 5/30/10


It boils my blood when we read of so many 'experts' who tell people that speaking in tongues is necessary for salvation.
---alan8566_of_uk on 5/29/10


Thanks for posing the question. It boils my blood when we read of so many 'experts' who tell people that speaking in tongues is not necessary for salvation, there are so many scriptures that depict this. an example is romans 1,16... correctly translated reads something like. 'for I am not ashamed that there is the good news of the anointing for it [the anointing] is the power of God unto salvation. this is the power [dunamis, explosive power] to every one who believes. So many people quote verses from the epistles out of context. the epistles were written to Spirit Filled people, not the believers. read acts 10:44 on. hope this helps
---robert on 5/29/10


I am in an independent church that teaches how speaking in tongues is for building us up in Him. Paul said that he did that more than most.....maybe because he felt the need to do it because of his background! As we spend time, with the Lord, praying in tongues, our minds shut down and that line of communication is open between us and His Spirit with now hindrances. That's one way He grows us into a strong relationship with Him! I have found this to be a truth in my own life, as well. In Him, Ann
---Ann on 2/16/10




I don't believe you can use the Bible to prove speaking in Tongues is essential for Salvation. Biblical requirements for salvation are believing, calling upon the Lord, confessing Him as Lord...never tongues.

Paul says:
1Cr 12 8-10 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom, to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit,
To another faith by the same Spirit, to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit,
To another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another discerning of spirits, to another divers kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues:

Does this sound like all believers exercise the same gifts? The things we've "always" believed may not be true!
---Donna66 on 2/15/10


Proper perspective is necessary.

Tongues is not required for anything, it is an OPTION for anyone who feels the need.

John 7:38
"Out of his heart shall flow rivers of living water"...

..this is the water of God's spirit (it is LIVING, not H2O).

1 John 5:6
"He came by water and blood".

Revelation 7:16
"neither thirst".

Ephesians 4:5
"one Lord, one faith, one baptism".

Acts 1:5
"for John baptized with water (H2O), but before many days you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit".

God's spirit baptizes/consecrates the heart, mind, and soul of the inner temple (us) to the outer temple (Jesus).

All verses are from the RSV.
---more_excellent_way on 2/14/10


Baptism/consecration does not require tongues, nor does salvation. Salvation has been accomplished and finished when Jesus was glorified....

John 7:39
"the Spirit had not been given, because Jesus was not yet glorified".

The Israelites were NOT in Jesus.
1 Corinthians 10:2
"all were baptized into Moses".

We have been TRANSFERRED to Jesus's kingdom by what GOD'S SPIRIT has done. No human can baptize.

Colossians 1:13

"transferred us to the kingdom".

Everyone has salvation AVAILABLE because of what Jesus accomplished, but we need to go ahead to "ETERNAL LIFE".

Ephesians 1:14
"the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession".
---more_excellent_way on 2/14/10


THe Word speaks of Obedience to the Holy Ghost. Why would we be disobedient to Him in not receiving the Baptism? We Pentecostals view this Baptism with the evidence of tongues and obedience is required on the part of the believer to receive it not God. "He shall Baptize you with the Holy Ghost" was stated and so was "But wait until you receive the enduement of Power" but when we witness and preach or anything other than seek His empowerment (not our own) then we will have it. Everywhere in the Word it was a second event and signs followed (tongues). Paul tells us to pray in tongues in several books of the NT but many that say Lord do not obey.
---Joe on 2/14/10


Rob Do you mean ICorinthians 12:6 there are diversities of operations, but it's the same God which worketh ALL in ALL . Or in 1Corinthians 1,7 you are not lacking in any spiritual gift, as you wait for the revealing of our Lord Jesus Christ,
The Corinthians had all gifts says the Bible John the baptist said He whom God has sent speaks Gods words, for God does not give the Spirit with limitations." John3,34 It would be an abomination to God if He gave different gifts to different people
Pr 20:10 Divers weights, and divers measures, both of them are alike abomination to the LORD. In ICorinthians12 The words "to another" are usually translated "and another" The Spirit has every Spiritual blessing Ephesians1,3
---Rodney on 11/26/09


Isaiah 26:11 stammering lips and another tongue is the rest and the refreshing Also quoted by Paul in !corinth 14:21 in reference to tongues
Jesus said come to me and I will give you rest Matt11:28-30 And in Hebrews 4,1-11 it warns about not entering into the rest
Acts3:19 Says that the times of refreshing come from the presence of the Lord So tongues is the only sign given of the rest and the refreshing which happens when we come to Jesus and He presences himself and we are warned about the consequences of not entering the rest
Obviously once we've entered in we must continue in it That is walk in the Spirit Love God and the brethren and everything else that is relevevant to salvation including praying in the Spirit (tongues)
---Rodney on 11/25/09


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Rob, Because the question posed is not asking about believers drinking lethal things, nor of believers laying their hands on the sick to heal them, which is in Mark 16 verse 18: but the question posed is about "speaking in tongues that come from the Spirit", which is answered in Mark 16 verse 17, and therefore I rightly addressed the subject which was asked in providing the right scriptures to this specific topic.
---Eloy on 11/24/09


Sometimes the spirit give utterance because we know not how to pray. I had the wonderful experience of receiving tongue interpretation. A woman in the service received tongues, came up to the pastor began to give a testimony, and went into tongues, I HEARD THE VOICE OF GOD WHILE SHE SPOKE, then the pastor said somebody got the interpretation, I stood and said the Word of the Lord....it is not part of your salvation but for the building up of your faith walk....prayer voice, the Lord is always speaking
---Cynthia on 11/24/09


Rodney, have you ever read 1 Corinthians Chapter 12?

Eloy, why do people quote Mark 16:17, but they avoid what is written in Mark 16:18, even though these verses are part of the same sentence?
---Rob on 11/24/09


"And he said to them, And these signs will follow them that believe: In my name will they cast out demons, they will speak with new tongues. And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. This Jesus has God raised up, wherefore we all are witnesses. Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he has shed forward this, which you all now see and hear. Then said Peter to them, repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and you all will receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." Mark 16:17+ Acts 2:4,32,33,38.
---Eloy on 11/24/09


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Tongues is the sign of the Holy spirit and the holy spirit is essential for salvationRomans 8,9 Jesus is the same he gave the holy Spirit with tongues in the beginning He is not a different Jesus now He said true worshippers must worship in spirit and in truth John4,24 Speaking in tongues is praying in the spirit ` Corinthians 14,14 does Jesus have the right to make tongues compulsory Were the corinthians missing gifts? (1Corinthians1,7) oes Jesus play favorites and give a bigger chunk of his spirit to some than others
---Rodney on 11/23/09


ICorinthians 14:18 shows that Paul was baptized in the Holy Spirit.

Now as far as spiritual gifts are concerned, tongues in 1 Corinthians 12 is different from chapter 14. In chapt. 12 it is referring to one of His, the Holy Spirit, gifts as He wills.

In chapter 14 tongues are as we will. Look at Jude 20. The Holy Spirit cannot make me pray in tongues. I do so when I want to.(Jude 20)
It is me praying out of my own spirit.(1Corinthians 14:14-15)
---Rickey on 5/30/08


Upon Paul's initial salvation receiving the Holy Spirit...there is no record of him speaking in Tongues...he immediately went to the synagogue and preached to the Jews that Jesus Christ is Lord. THAT is the evidence of your salvation. No one can say Jesus Christ is Lord God Almighty except by the Holy Spirit.
---kathr4453 on 5/29/08


How did this ever get out. Speaking in tongues will not save you. And if God doesn't wish to give it to you you will not get it. You have other gifts. Are you useing them? Please!!!
---catherine on 5/28/08


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The moderator is absolutely right, there is no scripture stating that speaking in tongues is necessary for salvation.
It is a gift of the Spirit like any other, and has nothing to do with our own salvation.
---Todd1 on 5/28/08


The Holy Ghost does many things:
Reveals things, Convicts the Soul, Bringer of Tongues, Comforts & fills the Soul.
People are given Diff. Gifts, BUT ALL are of the SAME Body!
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 5/27/08


Andrea, you need to read the rest of that scripture,the gift of tounges is most definately NOT a gift to "all true believers"read 1 Corinthians 6-19 You "born again" people make me crazy!!Spend some time studying your Bible with a good concordance, and for the love of God quit spreading ignorance!!!
---Suzi on 5/26/08


I believe in the gift of the Holy Spirit as much as the next person, but if you rightly divide the word, you will see that the gift of the Holy Spirit is salvation and not some second blessing. You receive the gift of the Holy Spirit at the moment of conversion. And not everyone spoke in tongues. Acts 8:28-40
---Pastor_Herb on 5/26/08


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yes it is acts is the basis of our religion. the original expierence was in acts. look at acts 2:38 also acts 10. Nowhere in the bible when someone got saved did it happen any other way romans 8:9 is another. there are more but thats all you should need.
---travis on 5/26/08


Closely consider the moderators answer to this question. There is a clear difference between salvation and spiritual gifts. If you understand this, You will understand why you understand, and others do not understand. How's that for using the word understand? ha ha ha.
---Mima on 10/18/07


1Cr 14:2 For he that speaketh in an [unknown] tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth [him], howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.

doesn't seem like its speaking of French to me, or latin or any other human language.

Ask God to give you the gift of His Holy Spirit with the evidence of tongues. It is promised to all true believers
---Andrea on 10/18/07


The tongues that are spoken about in scripture is foreign language. If someone speaks french to you, it is an unknown language to you.
---shira_5965 on 10/18/07


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I always looked at the scripture in Mark where it talks about speaking in a new tongue as SPREADING the Word, the NEW covenant, the new tongue for the apostles was when they heard the gentiles praise God upon receiving the Holy Spirit in THIER own tongue and the following verses meant that nothing would stand in your way.
---DANNYBOY on 4/24/07


Well said Moderator. Also beloved....if you desire this gift, ask God for it. Its available to all who believe and want to possess this most wonderful and blessed gift. Its yours! Praise God!
---robyn on 4/24/07


Bridghett,

Congratulations on exploring this topic on your own! and not just taking what you have been told for granted. Acts 17:11

You will not find proof in scripture that speaking in tongues is essential for salvation.

There is a difference between recieving the Holy Spirit in you at conversion: John 14:17, 20:22, I Cor 12:13, Romans 8:9 and recieving the Baptism of the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongues:Matt 3:11, Acts 1:4,8 2:1-4, 8:14-17, 9:17, 19:1-6
---Bruce5656 on 4/23/07


Bridghett - Salvation is all in Christ and His finished work on the Cross for sin, or it is not salvation. Nothing but Jesus by faith. Bridghett you cannot find in Scripture about tongues for salvation because it is not true so therefore it is not in Scripture. Keep checking everything against Scripture and you will be ok.
---Helen_5378 on 10/17/06


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Not so, Carl. Speaking in tongues (the ability to speak an actual foreign language) is not evidence of ones salvation. The gift of tongues is NOT given to all believers. Jesus never said that all believers will have this gift.

1 Corinthians 12:27-30
---Kay on 10/17/06


By reading Acts we see there are 3 witnesses that speaking in tongues accompanies the receiving of the Holy Spirit - Acts 2v4, 10v44-46, 19v6. By one Spirit are we all baptized into one body..(1 Cor12v13).Jesus tells us that believers will speak in tongues-Mark 16v17.Do you believe in Jesus? Have you received the Holy Spirit? Are you a member of His Body? Then, you will speak in tongues.
Carl
---carl on 4/23/06


Speaking in tongues is a spiritual gift. You have to be saved before you can speak in tongues so how can tongues be essntial for salvation, if you are already saved? Just like baptism. You have to be saved first so you are already saved when you get baptized.
---john on 1/25/06


Or perhaps this could mean new languages, as one would have to speak as they went on mission trips to other nations. Refer to Strong's concordance also.
---mike on 1/25/06


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in Mark 16 verse 15-20 it states that believers shall speak with new tongues. therefore if you are a believer that is a requirement for you. jude 20 says ppray always in the spirit to build up your most holy faith and to explain what praying in the spirit is 1 corinthians 14 says "when i pray with an unknown tongue, my spirit prays. ther are lots more to prove its validity.
---Donna on 1/25/06


In John 3:5 water referred to "word". {1Peter 1:23} In I Corinthians 1:17 Paul," Christ sent me not to baptize..." Baptism in the Name of Jesus was for the Jews. They were pricked at their hearts and had to come to repentance. B.E. or Be Extremely blessed(empowered to prosper).
---Rickey on 11/18/05


I agree that the baptism in the Holy ghost is not essential for salvation. The Bible, in Hebrews 6:2, says,"..doctrine of baptisms." One baptism is the baptism into the body of Christ or the new birth. (I corinthians 12:13) Another baptism is the baptism in the Holy Ghost done by Jesus.[Matthew 3:11; Mark 1:8; Luke 3:16; John 1:33] Baptism in water is done by man. It is an outward showing of being raised w/ Christ. It isn't required for salvation.
---Rickey on 11/18/05


5. I do believe the Holy Spirit is shared by believers to unbelievers, when we speak the truth of the gospel. The gifts of the Holy Spirit are many and tongues is one of them. Tongues does not help to witness to anyone. It might reinforce the Christians feelings with God, and have a great relationship with Christ. But not helpful for preaching God's Word for others.
---Lupe2618 on 10/2/05


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4. and not for not being Baptized. Also if we took all of it as true, then we would also be able to drink anything deadly, and it would not hurt us. These signs were promised to the apostolic community ( Matthew 10:1; 2 Cor.12:12), not all believers in all ages (1 Cor. 12:29,30). All with the exception of drinking poison were experienced by some in the apostolic church and reported in Scripture (Acts 28:5), but not afterward verse 20.
---Lupe2618 on 10/2/05


2. If we are to take scripture literally in Mark 16:17-18. We would be in error. First of all the account is similar to the one in Matthew's account of the Great Commission, with the added contrast of those who have been baptized (believers) with those who refuse to believe and are condemned. Even if verse 16 is genuine part of Mark's gospel, it does not teach that baptism saves. If it did then Emcee would be right in his way of salvation, but since the lost are condemned for unbelief,
---Lupe2618 on 10/2/05


Hello again Linda, I want to ask you on the part that you put down, on the difference of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit coming out. What do you mean by that been the difference? I answered your other answer, on fighting the demons. I am in total agreement with Brother Bruce on his answer. It is not an essential of the Christian faith for salvation.
---Lupe2618 on 10/2/05


"And these signs will follow them that believe: In my name will they cast out devils; they will speak with new tongues; For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people." Mark 16:17; Isaiah 28:11.
---Eloy on 9/29/05


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In addition to Bruce's reply, you receive the Holy Ghost IN you upon being born again. The baptism of the Holy Ghost is the Holy Ghost coming out of you. IN and UPON are two different things.
---Linda_Smith on 9/29/05


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