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What Is The One Baptism

Does anyone believe that the "one baptism" spoken of in the Scriptures is the baptism of fire or Jesus' baptism which John the Baptist spoke of and that water baptism was just a forerunner of this?

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The works of Judaism are not the works of Faith.
We do not keep the law, We keep the Faith!
The works of Faith is what Paul called walking in the Spirit, or living by the word of Jesus.
Jesus said my Words are Spirit and life. He said if my word lives in you you can ask my Father what you will in my name and he will do it. But faith with out works or without walking in the Spirit, or living by the word
is Dead just like the body without the spirit is dead.
Faith is action, faith comes by hearing and acting on the word you hear. It is impossible to please God without faith. And it is impossible to have faith without works.
---exzucuh on 1/30/10


exzucuh: Technically you are completely right. Even Jesus said that if you keep His two Commandments that you are within the law. My point was more about how people sometimes focus upon one or more of the Laws to the point that they bear no fruit but live in condemnation rather than walking in the Spirit of God. Instead of loving others, they find fault and by condemning others they condemn themselves. No-one is perfect within the framework of law-keeping bc we all fall into the flesh whether we know it or not. Repentance is turning back to God and walking in His Spirit. It is not trying harder to be good within the framework of keeping the OT laws as some believe.
---jody on 1/30/10


Jody what you just said is keeping the ten commandments. The ten commandments are not Judaism. God gave Moses the Ten commandments first and then he revealed Judaism to him later
Abraham kept the commandments of God but did not live by the law of Judaism. Jesus shows them the difference below in Judaism and the commandments

Mark 7:8-9 For laying aside the commandment of God,
ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
And he said unto them,
Full well -->ye reject<--
the -->commandment of God,<--
that ye may keep your own tradition.
---exzucuh on 1/30/10


Regarding works, I think the scriptures outlining that we are designed to do good works have more to do with acting Christlike and acting upon the Fruits of the Spirit that we develop. It is more about character than the keeping of laws. That is why love covers a multitude of sin. Faith is accounted as righteousness. Forgiveness causes us to be forgiven. Lowliness, gentleness, long suffering, making peace with others, generosity, loving God and neighbors ,these are good works not keeping the 10 commandments. Just food for thought.:)
---jody on 1/29/10


Donna, when you recieve the Lord Jesus, you also recieve the Holy Spirit which you refer to as the "baptism of fire" that John the Baptist illuded to. Water baptism is an act of obedience to show the dieing to self and living for Christ. Frankly at this point, I am not sure of at which point we have recieved the one baptism. It is clear that there is only one. Do Christ believers who haven't had the opportunity for water baptism prior to their physical death lose salvation. Do they contradict the scripture that states that there is one baptism? Probably not in both cases. I just praise God for His provision for salvation in Jesus Christ!:) We need only believe. Praise God!
---jody on 1/29/10




Sorry, for the short version answer one can only use so many characters on this network/blog. If someone wants me to explain what I said further, I would be glad to offer my scriptural stand in the word of God. One baptism is just that ONE baptism
---steven-rem7000 on 1/29/10


Yes, in this respect, Jesus had to fulfill all righteousness Matt. The saints in the Old Testament had the same baptism as the saints in the New Testament they looked to the Messiah for redemption as God has promised showing the Messiah in types, pictures and shadows, which were things to come Heb.CHRIST. After the cross (the finished work of Christ VERY IMPORTANT IT IS FINISHED) saints look to the Messiah for redemption the way they always have from Adam until this present time.


One baptism is a one time event, regeneration i.e. born again from above. The Holy Spirit represents fire, regeneration is indwelling of the Holy Spirit. The water represents "the word of God" faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of GOD.
---steven-rem7000 on 1/29/10


Mark 1:9 And it came to pass in those days, that Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized of John in Jordan.

Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved, but he that believeth not shall be damned.

John 3:22 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea, and there he tarried with them, and baptized.

Matthew 10:24 The disciple is not above his master, nor the servant above his lord.

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
---exzucuh on 1/29/10


Donna on 1/28/10
michael_e, there is scripture to back up this theory....and truly, unless the Holy Spirit revealed this to me, I wouldn't have seen it either.

Donna could you show me the scripture that backs up your theory that the ONE baptism that the apostle paul speaks of in 1 cor. is a baptism of fire? The only baptism of fire i can find is in matt.


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---michael_e on 1/28/10


"A sinner must be baptized in water to be saved." ---exzucuh.

This statement attempts to establish a condition that must be met in order to be saved. Therefore we can be certain that it can be classified as a work. And of course we know that no man is justified by works. That fact from the Bible is in direct opposition to what the statement by---exzucuh says.

---mima on 1/28/10

The Bible says works of the Law, Baptism is not Judaism it is the works of Faith and we are commanded to do works of faith.
---exzucuh on 1/28/10




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It shall greatly help you to understand Scripture if you mark (or take note) not only what is spoken or written, but ask of whom and to whom, with what words, at what time, where, to what intent, with what circumstances, considering what goes before and what follows after.
Miles Coverdale
---michael_e on 1/28/10


exzucuh, A-men. You got it. Faith WITH WORKS is God's Commandment, Not faith with no works: for all fruitless trees are thrown into eberlasting fire. The Old Testament and the New testament require ACTS, WORKS, DOINGS, of God, else there is no faith manifested. If Abraham did not obey God and actually leave his polytheistic parents home he would not have received God's inheritance, if Noah did not Work to build the ark he would not have been saved, if the disciples would not have gone back out and throw their net on the otherside of the boat they would not have gotten any fish. We must step out of the boat and follow Jesus in order to walk on the water.
---Eloy on 1/28/10


we know that no man is justified by works. That fact from the Bible is in direct opposition to what the statement by---exzucuh says.
---mima on 1/28/10

Which Bible do you read?

"Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only"(James 2:24)
---Ruben on 1/28/10


michael_e, there is scripture to back up this theory....and truly, unless the Holy Spirit revealed this to me, I wouldn't have seen it either.

The one baptism is the Baptism of Fire. When John the Baptist water baptized Jesus, the heavens opened up, and a dove came down (dove is a sign of the Holy Spirit) and the Father said, "This is my beloved Son, in Whom I am well pleased."

That dove came down for a reason. He represented the Holy Spirit. So the exchanged happened at that time - water baptism for Holy Ghost Baptism (with FIRE).

Truly though, unless the Holy Spirit reveals revelations to us, we don't see these things with our carnal minds.
---Donna on 1/28/10


---mima on 1/28/10 The Bible says no man is justified by the works of the law but they are justified by the works of faith in the Son of God Jesus Christ. Faith without works/action is dead faith. You have your scriptures mixed up. Judaism is done away we do not keep the traditional works required by God under Moses. But we do obey the Gospel of Jesus Christ and the penalty for rebellion is God's wrath.

Hebrews 5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him,

2 Thessalonians 3:14 And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed.
---exzucuh on 1/28/10


"A sinner must be baptized in water to be saved." ---exzucuh.

This statement attempts to establish a condition that must be met in order to be saved. Therefore we can be certain that it can be classified as a work. And of course we know that no man is justified by works. That fact from the Bible is in direct opposition to what the statement by---exzucuh says.

---mima on 1/28/10


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1 John 5:8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

Salvation has three witnesses water baptism,
spirit baptism, atonement by the blood shed on Calvary.
---exzucuh on 1/28/10


scripture dosen't lie, the only place i can find where (1) ONE BAPTISM is mentioned is 1 cor.12
---michael_e on 1/27/10


It does no good to give scripture to people that do not believe scripture.
---exzucuh on 1/27/10


I am going to have to say, "FIRE"
---catherine on 1/27/10


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lots of thought---no scripture
---michael_e on 1/26/10


---Darrell on 1/25/10 That's because the boy he was talking to was a Jew under Judaism. And he was revealing to him that he could not be saved if he kept following the Law. Because there was always something that the Law could find that revealed your inability to keep it.
He could not love his neighbor enough to sell all he had and give it to the poor.

A person can be saved by obeying the Gospel to
repent and be baptized.
---exzucuh on 1/26/10


A sinner must be baptized in water to be saved
they cannot receive God's spirit if they rebel against his instruction. They can believe and receive his Spirit first but they still must be baptized or they have not part of the death burial and resurrection of his Son. Any person who has rebelled against the instruction of God has never been saved. Such as Aaron's son's
that offered the wrong kind of fire to God.
They let his Holy Fire go out because they were not obeying his instruction and tried to start the fire back up with fire from the campfire. He killed them both for not following his instruction. Such as Judas who would not follow Jesus and sold him out to Judaism. Who are you selling him out to?
---exzucuh on 1/26/10


Nana on 1/26/10
you are right and that one baptism is a must.
1 cor 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body (the body of christ)
this can't be done by man.
---michael_e on 1/26/10


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Ephesians 4:4_6: "There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling, One Lord, one faith, one baptism, One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all."
>>>
13_14: "Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ: That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro..."
John 17:21: "That they all may be one, as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: ...."
As that unity approches, the dividing lines between earth, water and spirit get blurred and and then blended one into another, a whole ...
---Nana on 1/26/10


Yes I agree people who twist scripture to Justify sinful lifestyles and to discredit baptism and create doctrines that allow the devil to be saved and promotes walking on the blood of Jesus and counting his sacrifice as nothing, they will do it to their destruction.
---exzucuh on 1/25/10


"Good teacher," he asked, "what must I do to inherit eternal life?"
18"Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is goodexcept God alone. 19You know the commandments: 'Do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not give false testimony, do not defraud, honor your father and mother.'"

20"Teacher," he declared, "all these I have kept since I was a boy."

21Jesus looked at him and loved him. "One thing you lack," he said. "Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."

Not my words but the Words of the One Who Saves, and he says nothing about baptisim.
---Darrell on 1/25/10


somtetimes we take scripture completely out of context
2 pet.3:15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation, even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you, 16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are (some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.)
---michael_e on 1/25/10


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2 Corinthians 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

1 Corinthians 15:44-46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural, and afterward that which is spiritual.

If you do not take care of the Natural things first that we are commanded to do spiritual things will not happen.

James 2:16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled, notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body, what doth it profit?
---exzucuh on 1/25/10


1 John 5:8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

John 4:1 Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John,

john 3:22 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea, and there he tarried with them, and baptized.

Acts 8:15-17 Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost: (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.) Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost.
---exzucuh on 1/23/10


The heart is not righteous nor baptized when it refuses the water baptism in the name of the Lord as commanded by God. Many "lip servers" say they are Christian, but their fruitless lives prove otherwise that they are none of his, but are even the enemies of God teaching others a false gospel and to disobey Jesus' commandments.
---Eloy on 1/23/10


"Spiritual" cannot be easily explained with words.

Romans 6:19
"I am speaking in human terms".

If in fact you truly live, behave, and think with a contrite heart as one who is INside the body of Christ, you are spirtually INside Jesus's body as a SPIRIT creation (new creation).

You may not be aware of it, but you are an INNER TEMPLE that God's spirit has baptized/consecrated to the OUTER TEMPLE (Jesus)......meaning that no human being can perform "water baptism", it has been done FOR YOU with the "LIVING water" that poured from Jesus's side at the cross.

We are NOT 'IN MOSES'.

1 Corinthians 10:2
"and all were baptized into Moses".
---more_excellent_way on 1/23/10


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1 John 5:8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

You can't have one without the other You can't be right with God unless your obedient to the Gospel. And disobedient people will never be circumcised in their hearts. Circumcision was done by obedient Parents the children had nothing to do with it. Just as you cannot be circumcised yourself, God has to do it. Baptism in water is an act of faith and you cannot please God without faith.

Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved, but he that believeth not shall be damned.
---exzucuh on 1/23/10


Ed, some do enjoy arguing and debating their personal view. However, in this particular thread, most responders have the one baptism right. It is the circumcism of the heart, a new spiritual creation in Christ. Being in Christ is a function of the heart, not an outward act.
---Rod4Him on 1/22/10


Romans 6:3-7 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. For he that is dead is freed from sin.

This may be why so many of you have to sin all the time you are not really baptized.
---exzucuh on 1/22/10


My question is this: If baptism is a choice made of free will, then can an infant's baptism by water truly qualify as the baptism that Christ seems to state is required?
---David_Shepherd on 1/22/10


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For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body whether Jews or Greeks, 1 Cor. 12:13. That's the one baptism we recieve when one is born again of the Holy Spirit. Water baptism is only a sign, (whether by sprinkling, pouring or immersion,) of a inward reality. Water baptism has no saving power, only by being born from above by the Spirit of God saves.
---Tony on 1/22/10


paul is the only one who speaks of the "one baptism

Eph 4: 5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,

why not ask paul what the one baptism is?

1cor 12:13 For by one Spirit (not man) are we all baptized into one body
---michael_e on 1/22/10


Yes I do it for debate, I will do every thing in my power to destroy false doctrine. It is the tool of The Antichrist to send well meaning people to hell. And I will do what I can to put a stop to it.
---exzucuh on 1/21/10


I guess you know and I care not to make my case for it, in fact I will make this my last post for only about 1 in 10 people who post on this blog, seem to do it for the word, the rest do it for debate. May peace be with you and The Light Of The Lamb guide your way.
---Ed on 1/21/10


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---Ed on 1/19/10 ruwach Is spirit in Hebrew It does not mean water. shaqah Is water and is never used to mean Spirit.
---exzucuh on 1/20/10


several baptisms mentioned, not all baptisms are water
Eph 4: 5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,

1cor 12:13 For by one Spirit (not man) are we all baptized into one body

matt 3:11 I indeed baptize you with(1) water unto than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the(2) Holy Ghost, and with(3)fire:

1 Cor.10:2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea,
---michael_e on 1/20/10


exzucuh
In the OT the word "water" was used for the word "spirit" often. So this is mistranslated, or it has been changed. I would say changed for John new this and would not have wrote "3 bear witness, the Spirit(water), the Spirit, and the blood".
May the Light of the Lamb always guide your way.
Shalom
---Ed on 1/19/10


No, Jesus himself commanded right before he ascended back up into heaven, to baptize (lit: dipt honor) in his name. And his diciples followed this commandment in Acts: "Then whom answered Peter, Can somebody not forbid of water, who's these not to be baptized, who also received of his Holy Spirit even as we? And he commanded them to be baptized with Name of the Lord." Acts 10:47,48.
---Eloy on 1/20/10


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---michael_e on 1/19/10 You free to believe anything you want but if you believe wrong you will be damned.

1 John 5:8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

You cannot have one without the other.

John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
---exzucuh on 1/19/10


i will go by the what the word says and not what someone thinks it meant
13 For by ONE Spirit(not a man) are we all BAPTIZED into ONE body,(body of christ not a body of water)
---michael_e on 1/19/10


There is one God and our Father and one Lord Jesus his Son but you cannot have the one God without the one Son.

He meant that there is only one Baptism and it is in the Name of Jesus. But there are people who say you should baptize in the Name of the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit. But there is not two baptisms There is only one.
You cannot have the Father or the Holy Spirit
without the Son. We pray to the Father in Jesus name and God sends his Spirit in Jesus Name.

If you preach against water Baptism you will be accursed. And I mean now not later.
---exzucuh on 1/19/10


the word says one baptism not two or three and explains what that baptism is and says it is done by the Holy Spirit not by some man.

Eph.4:4 There is ONE body, and ONE Spirit, even as ye are called in ONE hope of your calling, 5 ONE Lord, ONE faith, ONE baptism

1 Cor 12:12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ. 13 For by ONE Spirit are we all BAPTIZED into ONE body,(not a body of water) whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free, and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

---michael_e on 1/19/10


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The 'King James English' and older/ancient languages were more "poetic"/artistic in expression (like Shakespeare). The words had a more "general"/broad meaning expressing a basic concept.

"Belly", "bowels", "heart" were often used referring to "countenance" (whether a person has a peaceful spirit or a mean, nasty spirit).

Our countenance should be of the LIVING water of God's spirit (not H2O water) so that we "neither thirst" (because it is OUR SPIRIT that will be trained by GOD'S SPIRIT).

Romans 8:16
"it is the Spirit himself bearing witness with our spirit that we are children of God".

RSV uses the word "heart" (no matter).
---more_excellent_way on 1/19/10


"John 7:38
"He who believes in me, as the scripture has said, 'Out of his HEART shall flow rivers of living water'".
---more_excellent_way on 1/18/10

Bible says in John 7:38

"He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his BELLY shall flow rivers of living water"

Is there a difference between heart and Belly?
---mima on 1/19/10


When asked, most Christians will give you the traditional answer about what flowed from Christ's side at the cross. Very few will give you the COMPLETE answer because it has never been taught (even though they MIGHT be vaguely aware).

1 John 5:6
"This is he who came by water and blood, Jesus Christ, not with the water only but with the water and the blood".

It is this LIVING water (the spirit of Godliness) that must be truly in our hearts and minds so that we "neither thirst" (Revelations 7:16 and John 6:35).

John 7:38
"He who believes in me, as the scripture has said, 'Out of his heart shall flow rivers of living water'".
---more_excellent_way on 1/18/10


By one Spirit we are baptized into one body But by water we are baptized into the death burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

Acts 19:5-6 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them, and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.

Romans 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

You cannot be baptized in the Spirit without obeying to be baptized by water they are both required. Any way you do it It is rebellion to deny it.
---exzucuh on 1/18/10


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pretty simple,
Eph.4:4 There is ONE body, and ONE Spirit, even as ye are called in ONE hope of your calling, 5 ONE Lord, ONE faith, ONE baptism

1 Cor 12:12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ. 13 For by ONE Spirit are we all BAPTIZED into ONE body,(not a body of water) whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free, and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
---michael_e on 1/18/10


the one true baptism is when jesus gives us his spirit,the living word, which is living water,jesus told the woman at the well of living water being the gift of god,not natural water,if you knew the gift of god (h.g. his voice) you would have asked of him and he will give you living water,whosoever drinks of this water will thirst again(water baptism) but the water that i will give him shal be a well of water springing up unto everlasting life,jesus is describing 2 different kinds of water but only 1 being the real gift of god,the 1 true baptism,the h.g. john says i heard his voice as the sound of many waters(living water,baptism of the word/voice,today if you will hear his voice.etc
---alex on 12/3/09


If the water baptism is the one, you would think that Christ would have made that important to Paul but paul says almost the opposite. 1 cor.1:17.For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. He also says somebody else is baptising 1 cor.12:13. For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free, and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. surely this is the one baptism
---michael_e on 12/2/09


There is one water baptism, Mark 16 v 16 -
Acts 2 v's 37-41 which Fulfills Matt 28 v's 19-20. There is 1 Holy Ghost baptism, Mark 1 v 18 which Is conjoined with Acts 2 v's 37-41.
No one found in scriptures that was litterally baptized in the titles Father-Son & Holy spirit.
---Lawrence on 10/30/09


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Mima-could you say more about your comments that Jesus was baptized for all? I'm just curious if we are on the same page with this. I feel like the Lord has given me a revelation showing me that as He was baptized that fulfilled water baptism and then His baptism of fire came into play. That baptism is the one that sanctifies our whole spirit, soul, and body making us a beautiful bride without wrinkle, spot, and blemish.
---Patti on 11/5/05


The one baptism is not water. it is the act of the Spirit identifying us spiritually with Christ in His death burial resurrection ascension and being seated with him in the heavens. we died with Christ and have been resurrected and God now sees us in heaven.
---walt on 11/5/05


There is one God but he manifests Himself in 3 ways. There is one baptism and it manifests 3 ways also. The indwelling at salvation, the baptism of fire, and the Baptism of the Holy Spirit.So, we have one Lord and one baptism but 3 manifestations. To disregard any of these baptisms would be a sad thing as there is a blessing and empowerment with each one.
---john on 11/4/05


Jesus was not baptized for all; He was SACRIFICED for all who choose to believe. Baptism by emersion is something we're all commanded by God to do as part of our public profession of faith.
---Heather on 11/3/05


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Patti you are correct about Jesus being baptized for all. Many people do not understand this but I'm thankful for the insight the Lord has given you.
---Mima
---Mimalee on 11/3/05


There were many baptisms prior to Jesus's coming. Many were baptized in faithful names. 1Cor.1:13-15, "Is Christ divided: was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul? I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius; Lest, any should say that I had baptized in mine own name." We should be baptized in the name of the one who died for us. (Acts2:38).
---mike_fl on 10/14/05


geera, Peter "not knowing"? That is wresting the scripture.
---Eloy on 10/6/05


There are many baptisms in the bible. The only true baptism is that of the Holy Ghost performs when he seals you in Christ once you believe in him. Matt 3:11, Mark 1:8, Luke 3:17, John 1:33, Acts 1:5, 11:16. Then Acts 10:47 something different happens, Gentiles get baptized by the Holy Ghost without water. Peter NOT knowing what to do, then baptizes them with water.
---geraa7574 on 10/6/05


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The one baptism, is the water baptism commanded by Jesus in Matthew 28:19 to be done in the name of the Lord. Note those who received the Spirit baptism were still commanded to be baptized in water afterwards: "Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord." Acts 10:47,48.
---Eloy on 10/6/05


Patti, Matthew 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth, 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
---Ulrika on 10/4/05


Well, I am entertaining the belief that Jesus was baptisized to fulfill all righteousness, meaning when He was baptisized He was baptized for all and then it was ended. Because John said the One that is cming after me is going to baptize with fire and the Holy Spirit.
---Patti on 10/4/05


Since there are at least three baptisms mentioned in the NT, if we have to state one to be THE baptism that matters, it would certainly be the baptism into the Body of Jesus, by the Holy Spirit, at conversion. I Cor 12:13
---Bruce5656 on 10/4/05


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Jadi ... What happenes if someone suddenly realises that everything they've heard about Jesus is true, and they then and there accept Him into their lives.

Are you saing that until they are later baptised, they are not yet saved?

Toffee apples!
---alan8869_of_UK on 10/3/05


Water baptisms in scripture were done where there was enough water for immersion. It doesn't save, it's act of obedience to show we are saved. Matthew 3:13 Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him. 14 But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me? 15 And Jesus anwering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. 16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water:
---Ulrika on 10/3/05


Much of what has been said is true in this respect. I have recently found that in order to be saved you MUST BE BAPTIZED...by complete IMMERSION...no where in the word have I seen one be sprinkled...in reference to John...all of John's disciples were re-baptized, I believe it was 12, because of Christ's death burial and resurrection...as a new christian years ago, this was not explained to me, I was never told that I must be baptized to be saved, nor was it discussed as to what I was truly committing.
---Jadi on 10/3/05


Yes Alan. Physical water baptism is the outward expression of the inward work of the Holy Spirit. When Jesus asked John to baptize Him, He said to suffer Him to fulfill all righteousness. Water baptism is a step of obedience for the believer and portrays his identification with Jesus in His death, burial, and resurrection that fulfilled all righteousness.
---Linda_Smith on 10/2/05


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Water baptism is not discounted because of Pentecost baptism. For the disciples continued water baptism even after the pentecost baptism. The one baptism is the baptism into Jesus. There's only one Jesus Christ, one salvation, so it is baptism in his name. Please read the comission in Matthew 28:19.
---Eloy on 10/2/05


So, Linda, it is a spiritual baptism at the moment of acceptance?
And physical baptism by water, sprinkled or immersion, is a subsequent demonstration and declaration of our acceptance of Jesus, submission to Him, and reception of the Holy Spirit to be our Guide and Comforter?
Sounds right to me
---alan8869_of_UK on 10/2/05


I agree with Linda Smith. Matthew 3:11 Mark 1:8 Luke 3:16 John 1:33
---Ulrika on 10/2/05


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