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Did Jesus Die On A Cross

Did Jesus really die on the cross?

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Yes,He really did die on the cross. If he didn't die on the cross the Bible would have said so. The Bible says that He died on the cross and rose on the third day(Christ's Resurrection). Look in the Bible it is in there.
---angea on 12/18/07

Absolutely..scripture states it over & over & over. He was nailed to a cross for our sins. He physically died on that day. He had to suffer & die a horrible death for us, and crucifixion is one of the worst ways to die- look it up & read about it. There is no doubt in my mind at all. But then He rose to life again...hallelujah!
---Ann5758 on 5/17/07

cliff actually no I haven't seen people kissing a cross here in Bermuda (small island of 21 square miles) I have seen people kiss rosery beads but only on TV shows. I guess here in Bermuda no one worships the cross(in public anyway).I'm not saying no one does this I'm saying that those that do WORSHIP the cross are sinning. But many don't and have it only as a reminder of Christ's sacrafice.
---judit4846 on 10/30/05

Judit 4846; You mean you never have seen people kissing the cross?,useing it to fend off demons? etc...
---1st_cliff on 10/30/05

Eloy; for accuracy, why not preach the "stauros"?
---1st_cliff on 10/30/05

Yes He did BUT more importantly HE IS RISEN!
---Pierre on 10/30/05

cliff, "For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but to us which are saved it is the power of God." I Corinthians 1:18.
---Eloy on 10/29/05

Point 4: It appears that the many that have missed the point as to why a cross would be used. A cross seen hanging on a wall, on a key chain, or in a picture is nothing more than a visual reminder of the awesome miracle that took place on it. We save our worship for the risen Christ and Him alone do we praise.
---Judit4846 on 10/29/05

Point 3: Also used is 1 Corint 10:14 and yes idolatry is wrong & should not be practiced, but crosses & idolatry have nothing in common UNLESS the cross is being worshipped. These 2 verses failed to show why a cross itself is bad. Since there are no other verses given, I have to assume that the one is unable to come up with one acceptable reason to avoid the symbol of a cross.
---Judit4846 on 10/29/05

Point 2: Many don't make a distinction between these two and therefore think that being in possession of a cross is just as bad as worshiping the cross, which is just not so. If you worshipped a cross you would be in violation of God's commandment against idolatry. JW would quote Duet 7:26,This verse does not apply to having a cross hanging on your wall unless you are worshipping the cross instead of God
---Judit4846 on 10/29/05

1st_cliff, Point 1: the cross was not what killed Jesus it was sin our sin that killed him.
First of all there is an enormous difference between using (or having) a cross in worship and actually worshiping the cross itself.
---Judit4846 on 10/29/05

Wood was not plentiful and the stauros was burried or destroyed after use. If your best friend was stabbed with a butcher knife, would you have a "replica" made and hang it on your wall? or wear it around your neck?
---1st_cliff on 10/29/05

PT 4. Matthew 27:37, "Above his head they placed the written charge against him" THIS IS JESUS, THE KING OF THE JEWS"If Jesus had died on a stake, the text would have said, "Above His hands." But it clearly says, "Above His head", showing a cross crucifixion is meant."
---judit4846 on 10/28/05

PT 3. Read John 20:25, can be found in New World Translation. if Jesus wasn't crucified on a cross, but a stake, then only one nail would have been used for his hands. It is also significant that when Jesus spoke of Peter's future crucifixion, He indicated that Peter's arms would be outstretched, not above his head.John 21:18,19
---judit4846 on 10/28/05

PT 2. in those days there where 3 types of crucifixions X, T, + used by Roman (hard to draw them here)soldiers during the 1st century A.D.The JW don't tell u that the Greek word stauros was used to refer to a variety of wooden structures used for execution in ancient days.
---judit4846 on 10/28/05

PT 1. JW believe that Christ was crucified on an upright stake or pole rather than a cross. the Bible speaks of being hung on a tree ( Galatians 3:13 and Acts 5:30 ), and all 4 gospels mention that a cross was carried to the crucifixion site ( Matthew 27:32, Mark 15:21, Luke 23:26, and John 19:17 ).
---judit4846 on 10/28/05

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It seems that there is a fascination with that. That is why I said that it seems just about everything upright could be spoken of in such a way by a mind that is defiled. By no means do I believe the cross represents such a thing and those who do have only taken what godless people have said and made it doctrine. That's the difference between a mind in the earth and a mind in the heavens. See my post on the blog "What is an Asherah pole".
---what? on 10/28/05

Elsie, when I asked the question about being fascinated with phallus symbols, I was not saying that the cross was a phallus symbol. Instead, I was making reference to another post that said that the cross was considered such a symbol. Remarks about different objects being considered such symbols aren't just found in this blog but also in others, where even steeples are referred to as the same thing.
---what? on 10/28/05

Yes, Jesus really did die on a cross. How do we know? Because the Bible says it and history reveals this was the way people were punished at that time in history. Is the person asking about the phallic question really serious about this? Seeing everything upright as a phallic symbol was defined specifically by the victorian psychiatrist, Sigmund Freud, although I am sure others thought it too! It is purely an exercise in the imagination and has no relation to the cross - if that is being suggested!
---Elsie on 10/28/05

Jehovah's Witnesses teach that Jesus died on a stake not a cross. Sometime they use the word tree but they do not like the word cross at all.
---M.P. on 10/28/05

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The relevance of the crossbeam being the part that Jesus carried speaks of the burden of humanity (the vertical aspect of redemption) on His shoulders. The fact that he fell under that incredible burden and Simon (means "to hear God accurately") was asked to bear it signifies each member who hears bearing one another's burdens and so fulfilling the law of Christ. How awesome is that?
---Deborah on 10/28/05

Kaleo, I read an interesting thing in a book called "Manners and Customs" and it said that the crossbeam (the horizontal relationship of man to man)is the part that Jesus was made to carry up the hill until he fell under the weight and they asked Simon to do it. Then it said that the vertical post (God's relationship to man) was anchored permanently in the ground on top of the hill. You know what that tells me? That God's part is finished and it is permanent.
---Deborah on 10/28/05

Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seem to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise. For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness. And again, the Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain. Therefore let no man glory in men.
---what? on 10/28/05

What is the fascination with phallus symbols? Pretty soon, anything upright is going to be considered one.

To the pure, all things are pure; but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.
---what? on 10/28/05

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cliff--I am a student of History and if you will read about the time in which Jesus was crucified you will see that the Romans (who sentenced Jesus) Crucified their victoms on a post with a cross beam. It was reserved for thiefs and inserectionists (sp?) that were not roman citizens. A stake with his hands over his head is not only unbiblical but it is unhistorical
---Kaleo on 10/28/05

There is no word for "cross" in Koine Greek it is "stauros" meaning upright stake. His hands were nailed one on top of the other over His head. A "cross" is and has always been a phalus symbol. Early Christians identified themselves with the <>< fish sign not a Cross. Chek out any early Egyptian drawing and you will see them carying a cross.
---1st_cliff on 10/28/05

Also, John 3;14 As Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness,even so must the son of man be lifted up. That was a pole. I wonder if there are any out there who know of any other reference in the O.T. as to the shape of the wood that was used for the crucifixion?
---john on 10/28/05

Yes. Jesus REALLY died on a cross for the sins of everyone - including those who will not accept His love and those who choose to believe He wasn't really our Savior.
---Marilee on 10/28/05

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Yes, Jesus was hung up for our hang ups (sins). Thank God He got up from the grave with all power in His hands.
---Leon on 10/28/05

Yes, He most certainly did, and we need to thank Him every day for loving us that much.
---Nan on 10/28/05

---Eloy on 10/28/05

Some say Jesus died on a tree or a stake. But it's really irrelevent. The important thing is that He died for our sins and reconciled mankind to God.
---clark on 10/28/05

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yes he did, read the gospels, matthew, mark, luke, and john to read all about it..
---angie on 10/28/05

Yes. He did.
---alan8869_of_UK on 10/28/05

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