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How Much Should Pastors Be Paid

How much should a Pastor make in a small and hurting church?

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The pastor should be willing to preach the gospel...free. Accept whatever the small and hurting church can afford to pay. I don't think people(preachers,teachers etc...) should try to make a living off of the gospel. That is my opinion. I think a young pastor should work and support himself/family. This is why being a preacher/pastor in the church is not a popular career choice. People usually feel being a preacher is a calling and not a career. If preaching is a calling, there is little money involved, sometimes. But the gospel has been perverted and people want to make a living off the gospel. They fleece the people and twist the gospel, in order to make a living off of it. This is wrong.
---Robyn on 10/22/10


I am a strong believer or at least getting there in believing that God takes care of His own. We should not depend on anyone except God to take care of us and that includes monetarily.
---catherine on 10/20/10


There should be an agreed upon amount as a salary for a pastor among the church members. He should not be paid to live in luxury while his congregation are living from pay check to pay check. The congregation should not be expected to pay for 3-4 luxury cars and 3-4 houses for the pastor, while still paying a salary. This is usury, and a lot of pastors are doing this. He should have held a job at one point so that he can qualify for social security benefits when he is older than 62.
---Garfield on 10/20/10


hector ... I used to collect round houses fro the Leukaemia Society.
The poor would get out the jar from behand the door in which they kept the change (coins) they collected to give to charity.
The middle earners would hand over a 50p or Pound coin
The rich would either not bother to come to the door, or if they did, open their wallets, apologise that they had no small change, and shut the door again.
---alan_of_UK on 9/6/08


Robin, if your pastor is paid the church agreed to this before he came to you. The fact that he and his wife both work is no proof that they are not in need. None of us know each other's business to the point of knowing another person's income and expenditure in detail.

If you have a bible study to which no-one goes why don't you be the first to go. You state that you are a new Christian so one-to-one would be good for you and then others would probably join, even if only out of curiosity initially.

If you have a bad feeling it is probably because you are young in your faith and younger that many of the congregation.

Either you have joined the wrong church or God has a special job for you there. Ask Him about that.
---RitaH on 9/6/08




a small and hurting church requires more of a pastor. If full time, the pastor spends from 10-14 hours 6 days a week doing work at church, not only his work but also the work that no one else does. Many end up doing the maintenance work. Should they get paid? Not to pay the pastor is a misunderstanding of the Scriptures. On the other hand, there are pastors making millions and there are those that can hardly make a buck. That should not be. Education and experience count too. Those who do not want to pay the pastor tend to have more than the average church attendant, and do not want to let go of their money. It is usually those that make less that truly support a church and the pastor, those that have more are always complaining.
---Hector on 9/5/08


Don't bleed the people to death. I don't believe in doing that. Pastors should expect to be paid.
---catherine on 8/27/08


It isn't unusual for us to think monetarily about a Pastor's salary in our society. (If we approach a biblical model then we see Paul as a tent maker refusing funds for himself as he accomplished the work of the Lord.) I think the answer is found in the church's expectations. If they expect a Pastor to spend a majority of his time serving the church to the point he can't make a living, then we should provide him that living. Paul said don't muzzle the ox while it's working. If the expectations are limited, then I think it is up to the Pastor and congregation to agree on that amount.
---Anthony_Perry on 8/25/08


Jamal_I get up and go to work to take care of the needs of my family and i'm content with what i have, No Greed involved...
There's a BIG differance between laboring for God And laboring for the wages(Money)of man!
I know a rich doctor thats a preacher and he still requires a 10th from those that have very little to say the least, This is not right and will be dealt with by God,
Very Soon!
Money has been a necessary evil that has been used by God to spread the Gospel around the world as you have seen from T.V.
There's not 1 nation that has'nt heard of Jesus, So it begin's!
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 8/22/08


I agree with Robert 100%.
---shirley on 8/21/08




Robin, sounds like the Pastor should ask for nothing now, if his external incomes support the family needs. Its a question of whether God has called this person to FULL time ministry. Perhaps, this person has moved too quickly into full time ministry. If you feel an unrest and not right within, perhaps move on to a bigger body after prayer. Any move needs to be directed by the Lord to the right body. Perhaps this Pastor needs to also join a larger body as well. Its hard to know. But if there is an unrest, loss of or absence of Peace, there is something out of order. Your group may need to function more as a prayer group until, it grows larger. This would allow God to more freely show everyone the direction the Holy Spirit intends.
---Robert on 8/21/08


I am a new Christian. We attend a small church that is hurting. When I say small I mean like 25 in attendance and 6 of those are kids. I don't understand why our pastor gets paid or even accepts it. He and his wife both have jobs, plus he recieves a check from being in the navy. Service lasts no longer than 45 minutes. No church on wed., bible study at parsonage on wed. but no one goes. The people in the church are older people that have attended there for many years. He's been preaching for about a year. I have a bad feeling and starting to think that everyone else does too.
---Robin on 8/21/08


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---Paul on 4/27/08


1 Timonthy 5:17-18

Presbyters who preside well deserve double honor, especially those who toil n preaching and teaching.

For the scripture says,

"You shall not muzzle an ox when it is threshing," and, "A worker deserves his pay."
---Marcia on 8/1/07


Zero. It would be easier on the church and kinder, if he held a job until things got better, if ever. A gentleman/lady and a true man/woman of the cloth, if able, would take this position on a salary,for now.
---Robyn on 8/1/07


Paul also said it was better for HIM not to get married. Does that mean that we should not get married because he chose not to? 1 Corinthians 7: 25-31, 36-40..so likewise do we withhold the laborers wage because Paul chose not to take one?
---Jamel on 8/1/07


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And Dave is implyig that if a Pastor is getting a wage then he is doing so out of greed....but the rest of us get up and go to work dont we...do we do it because we are greedy. A Pastor has to live and i believe the implication of the passage is that Pastors should make a living from the gospel so that they can devote time to the gospel.
---Jamel on 8/1/07


If a Pastor wants to work FULL time at the ministry serving God,s people to whom he has been given for their edification then it is the responsibility of the church to make sure he is able to live and provide for his family..i mean not only is it spiritual sense but its also practical and common sense
---Jamel on 8/1/07


I am sorry for posting again but this eats me up inside..A Pastor has to prepare sermons, tend to the flock in counseling, home visits, etc, has oversight of all the administrative stuff in the church, not only teach on Sundays, but throughout the week also, and alot more and you expect them to fullfill their calling effectively by working at the sametime..Being a Pastor is work in and of itself..an i am not a Pastor so i am speaking objectively
---jamel on 8/1/07


"Pastors should GIVE there time for the lords work"....the Pastors function in a nutshell- "And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, 12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ"..for the equipping of the saints to do the work of the ministry
---jamel on 8/1/07


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Well 1 Corinthians 9 states emphatically that the man of God should make his living from his work in the ministry. The previous poster mentioned that they should work so that they can be a testimony to those on the outside but preachers are called to "edify" the saints so that the saints/flock can be equipped to go out and touch society. It is well within a Pastor's right for him to recieve wages from the church
---Jamel on 8/1/07


When Paul says that he does not take anything in 1 Cor 9 you have to take what he said in context..he said it is his RIGHT to live off of the gospel but he CHOOSES not do so...it would be more noble for Pastors not to take a salary from the church but unwise..in these times that would not be very prudent. There are spiritual and practical implications to be applied to this situation.
---Jamel on 8/1/07


Pastors should at least work p/t...They may be a better witness to others if they work.
Too much money is wasted on church buildings,nice lawns, driveways, salarys, ect., when it could be used for the poor saints in the church who really need it.
Pastors should GIVE there time for the lords work.
---duane on 3/6/07


Michael T. asked the question two years ago, jana.
---Dave on 3/6/07


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Michael: ITS NONE OF OUR BUSINESS to know this. It is God's business not ours..Does anyone ever openly ask you how much you should earn at work? MINE YOUR OWN BUSINESS....LEAVE GOD'S SERVANTS ALONE. God is their judge. Not us.
---jana on 3/6/07


The pastor will have to get a job if he is pastoring a small and hurting church. You cannot squeeze blood out of a turnip. The church is poor and cannot afford a pastor. Bottom line.The pastor could turn this assignment down and move on or stay and do the work of the Lord. The benefits sometimes are very little and a long time coming when you are doing Kingdom work.This is why so many people do not go into the ministry full time. The pay is most times, lousy, unless you are a T D Jakes or Cref Dollar.
---robyn on 3/5/07


have you not read in Isaiah 45:13 that you are to Lead your flock out of love for God and NOT money or 1 peter 5:2 that states you should lead your church, NOT for filty lucre but as a testament of your faith to God. you do not believe in the whole bible, if you ignor those words of God. fyi. I spend as much time as you serving the church and God and ask for nothing in return money wise. why, because I believe in the bible and God and not greed or man. I also work full time to earn a living to live.
---Dave on 3/5/07


I am a pastor. I work about 60-70 a week doing things for the church. If you expect a man to work like that for free, you are very greedy. A pastor should be accountable to another pastor/apostle/elder, and the pastor should appoint the elders deacons. They should not run the pastor. That is to scriptural
---Pastor_Brad_Smith on 3/5/07


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The tithes should actually be for the upkeep of the church with the pastor's wages coming from the remainder if any. If the church is too small maybe he should consider getting a job like some of the old time preachers did. What will they do when nobody can buy nor sell? There will be no tithes then. That should seperate the wheat from the chaff. Since Revelation says the beast will make war with the saints what will these unemployed preachers do?
Frank
---Frank on 1/14/07


"God is obligated"
????
---alanUKquent64534 on 1/14/07


Speaking as a preacher's wife, the question to ask is how much is your pastor worth? God is obligated to sustain you and your church as long as you are doing what we as christians are called to do(win souls)!!!If you know how much your Pastor recieves; break it down into what you are paying him an hour..I promise you its not enough!! How much would it take for your job to pay you to go to the hospital 2:00 in the morning for someone you hardly know! As you win more souls, the finaces will come!
---linda on 1/13/07


It is not for us to know how much should pastors get. Do they come ask u what your income is and how much? C'mon guys, leave Gods workers alone..unless you r in the same work force...Leave well alone..
---jaas on 1/12/07


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I think a good, loving and caring pastor should be paid a salary. I do feel a pastor should not handle the money in the church and should not wield all of the power. That is very dangerous.
I think a small and hurting church should be able to give the pastor and his family a small salary. Perhaps food items and things themselves share in their homes. True pastors should preach the gospel, at all cost. Then you know the real from the false shepherds. Amen
---Marilyn_Diggs on 1/12/07


I think that a Pastors duties should not go unrecognized. We sometimes assume that pastors only work on Sundays. This is far from the truth. I am a soon to move forward with the plans our Lord has for me. In my plan I have layed out a secondary job. If the Lord is with me, and this is his plan, the congregation will come, through him only. This is when I would expect for finances to be adjusted. I know it's going to be hard, but God has given me a task, and I will labour till he puts me to rest.
---Ray on 1/12/07


MP I will just say that most pastors are not making alot of money. Most churches can't pay a pastor that much and if a large church can great, with that being said a church's sole purpose isn't for the pastor (those churches die) A church should be spending the money they recieve to try to bring people in. the gospel is free to those that need it, and those that have it it cost them. Which is how it has always been. PS I'm a poor pastor and proud to serve.
---Jared on 11/21/06


a pastor's salary should reflect the culture within the church. if it is poor, the pastor should be Poor as well. if upper class the pastor should reflect that too. it would be wrong for a pastor to demand the church to pay him/her alot if the church can't support it. and it is wrong for a church to force a pastor into poverty if the church can support them. pastors are called to minister to people and those people should support them. and they should become one with the people.
---Jared on 11/20/06


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contd. I can imagine the comments if the pastor and his family turned up every Sunday looking like underfed urchins. Perhaps they should keep their coats on in the house also (if they have one) so as not to need heating, and eat only toast. Some of the lowest in society do that also. Get real.
---M.P. on 1/16/06


"No pastor is worth more than the lowest in society." Really!!! Well with that attitude I think we should expect to see a long queue of pastors waiting for their social security hand-outs because that is what many of the 'lowest in society' have to do. Do we really want out pastors to have to do that to feed their children. Contd
---M.P. on 1/16/06


2. and never expect any sick visiting at home or in hospital, any counselling or any of the other parts of a pastors 'job' you can name. We should all be making the gospel of Christ free to everyone but the pastor does so much more than that. How many Christians work at their jobs full time for no pay? If you eat, wear clothes, run a household etc.you obviously are paid by someone.
---M.A. on 1/16/06


I don't believe that pastors are charging for preaching the gospel. They are 'making the gospel free, without charge'. I say that because there is a great deal more to being a pastor than preaching the gospel. Any full time pastor who does no other work for a wage has to have an income from being a pastor. If members want a pastor without paying for him (someone who preaches the gospel but does nothing else) they will also have to take their own wedding services, family funerals etc.
---M.A. on 1/16/06


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PSHP why not refer or read I Cor 9:1-19?
Paul made it very plain. It is OK to receive pay for Ministering v 11.
He said in v6 he had the ability to refuse pay. That is OK too.
In v12 others (could) and had used the power to collect funds for sharing Spiritual things.
You missed v13 and v14. He said those that Preach the Gospel (and Minister) should live by the Gospel (receive pay). He also gave the Minister the right to refuse pay.
Pay those Ministers and reap the benefits.
---Elder on 1/15/06


No, Pastor should not be paid according to 1 corinthians, chapter 9:18 states, What is my reward thee? Verily that, when I preach the gospel, I may make the gospel of Christ without charge, that I abuse not my power in the gospel.
---PSHP on 1/15/06


No, Pastor should not be paid according to 1 corinthians, chapter 9:18 states, What is my reward thee? Verily that, when I preach the gospel, I may make the gospel of Christ without charge, that I abuse not my power in the gospel.
---PSHP on 1/15/06


IF your church is "hurting" then cut other budgets not your pastors.
---willow on 1/6/06


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Pastor's salary of a small & hurting church:
Elders, church council and leaders of the denomination should have guidlines. Whether a small church is hurting or not, shouldn't impact on what the salary s/b. If the congregation is part of denomination, subsidy may be an option the council/elders should look into. A theme along the lines of "Getting A Grip On Your Resources" w/b good to facilitate to the group, including the pastor. Maybe the pastor's wife does too much shopping.
---Rudy on 1/6/06


Emma, There is Biblical precedent for "servants of God" to receive pay/support. In the OT, where do you think the financial tithes and offerings went? - to support the tribe of Levi - because serving in the temple was their "job." Do some pastors abuse their congregations financially - yes - but their sin must not be accounted to all pastors.
---daphn8897 on 1/6/06


Sure the pastor should be paid. The minimum wage in this country $5.50 an hour this should be the going rate for all pastors in every church. No pastor is worth more than the lowest in society. No Christian should support a church that pays their pastor more than this. Acts 4:32-36
---Mike on 1/6/06


There would be no social security if a pastor declared he worked full time for a church so who else does he get money from other than the church that wants him to work for them? There are churches around that function totally without any paid staff but this is done either by several people sharing the work voluntarily whilst employed elsewhere, someone retired with a reasonable pension or someone with a private income. Whichever way you look at it, he still has to eat etc.
---emg on 1/6/06


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I"m a pastor for 18 years at the same church I'm not hired. I take seriously the Scripture that Jesus quoted about the hireling fleeing but the shepherd not. Some of you have said that somehow you are responsible to see to it that the pastor needs to be taken care of. Thank you. I think the rest of you would give if it were not for the fact that the pastor was hired. So pastors, get off your comfortable payroll and be a shepherd.
---john on 1/6/06


Bible, they that minister at the Altar shall live of the Altar. The Old Testament was our Schoolmaster teaching us how God wants things handled . Didn't the Priests receive 100% from the people and give God 10% , Elder please correct me if I'm mistaken. Christian's should provide for Ministers the way they would Jesus if He was here, they are Christs's hands extended. A friend,Pastor, of a Church his mother founded , for about 15 + years never has been given a Love Offering. Thats a shame !
---Darlene_1 on 1/6/06


Kalvin ... where are they?
---alan8869_of_UK on 1/6/06


Pastors don't run the church. Apostles and prophets call the shots in the new testament church. They don't recieve pay checks or set up institutions and call them 'ministries'.
---kalvin_m._lee on 1/6/06


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God gave His tithes and offerings to the priesthood (Num 18) as their income. Tithes should not be used to pay church expenses (though it is done routinely, incorrectly).

The curse spoken of in Malachi 3 is because some worshipers withhold God's tithe and offering, essentially stealing the income of the priesthood.
---a_servant on 12/21/05


Contd. Whether one agrees with tithing or not, every Christian should be aware of the fact that their pastor has to pay the same prices in the shops that they do etc. and if they are not supplying an income for him he might just have to move on.
---M.A. on 12/13/05


Traci I am so sorry to hear how you and your husband were so badly treated. It always amazes me that church members think it's O.K. for them to earn way above the average but that their pastor should be prepared to live on the poverty line. Every Christian should be prepared to be generous WHERE NEEDED and one important thing they should remember is that a pastor has NEEDS also, simple things like food and clothing and warmth.
---M.A. on 12/13/05


We've just resigned from pastoring a church that we have been at for 12 years. The one holding the money bags doesn't believe in paying a pastor. When my husband worked outside of church, he was accused of not giving enough time. When he quit other jobs, he was accused of being irresponsible when we couldn't afford groceries. Which is it?? All I know is we are exhausted and finished with church politics.
---Traci on 12/12/05


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Luke 6:38; 2 Cor. 9:6-11
---Leon on 12/4/05


Michael could you please tell us exactly what you mean when you say the church is hurting? Are you referring to a spiritual thing e.g. they feel that God has abandoned them or is it a physical thing e.g. they have no money to pay for a pastor and other things the church needs?
---M.A. on 11/7/05


What did people do in the OT days? They supported their priests. The priests had nothing of their own. Everything they had- their land, flocks, homes, food- everything- came from the rest of the people. If a pastor isn't paid a regular wage, then it's up to the church to help as much as it can. That will have to be a matter of prayer.
---Ann5758 on 11/7/05


Is this Church "hurting" enough to where there is no air condition and heat? How about water and electricity?
Strange how Churches can have these services and cut the Pastors salary or don't want to pay him at all.
Of course if he hires out you will still want him in Church on Worship day even if he looses his job.
I guess he is still allowed to give to the Church, huh?
---Elder on 11/6/05


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We don't pay my Pastor a salary. He says he don't want it. God said that man will work by the sweat of their brow, and my pastor does that. Reagardless if the Pastor gets paid or not, a good Pastor cares and watches over his sheep all the time. A good Pastor is hard to find now-a-days. Support your Pastor the best way you know how. If the church can't afford to "pay" for a Pastor, then don't. but if the Pastor keeps saying, gimmie, gimmie, then it's time to find another one.
---Rebecca_D on 11/5/05


I am not a pastor I am the soul winner. But here is a money story. Once after telling someone that I did not want to go to China on a missionary trip, that person that night was awakened from sleep by the Holy Spirit and told to sent me 500 hundred dollars and
to tell me to go to China. I went and in six months heard 87 people accept Jesus Christ as their personal savior!!!---mima 11/4/2005
---mima on 11/4/05


I believe that any full time pastor should be able to support himself and his family on the economy of the community in which he preaches without having to go on food stamps, or have his kids get free lunch. Whatever that income is. In my community that would be more money than more rural areas across the country.
---Madison on 11/3/05


Part 2. When our church was small and hurting I has a full time employment and appointed elders in the church to do many of the regular duties. This encouraged teamwork instead of the "one man does it all syndrome" After 18 years with the same church I still don't get a wage because I don't want to be hired. The church should be overseen by elders not a pastor and they shouldn't be hired.But they do deserve to get something for their labours.
---john on 11/3/05


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I'm a pastor and refuse to be hired so I don't expect a wage/salary.Hirelings to oversee the church are unscriptural.
People should be taught to give from their heart. I have never been in want. I understand that those who labour should get something but that doesn't mean they should be hired.The priests were O.T. types of spiritual leaders and we don't see them hired but they did receive gifts in order to live.
---john on 11/3/05


There are so many factors that may be involved here. Is this pastor working a full-time job as well as pastoring? Is he a full-time pastor? Does he have a family to support? I know one thing. If everyone in every church gave tithes and offerings generously they would all be blessed and so would the pastor.
---Sally on 11/3/05


james: if you were a doctor, and some of your patients died though you honestly tried your best, would you reject your wages?
---chioma on 11/3/05


A person should be paid what they are owed when they work. Maybe the church is 'small and hurting' because they aren't being obedient and faithful to Jesus? Don't take it out on the pastor if he is being obedient.
---Chris on 11/3/05


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Salary? I have never read anywhere in the bible where servents of God were paid salary.
---Emma on 11/3/05


If a pastor is employed by a denomination his salary will be fixed. If he is employed by an independent church who's members pays all his salary this could vary tremendously. A pastor's basic needs are the same as everyone else's, accommodation, food, clothing, warmth, transport etc. Pastors of small churches never get rich but an independent church should ensure that he is not expected to live at a level below that of the members.
---M.P. on 11/3/05


I am a pastors daughter and I know the endless hours a pastor puts in caring for his congregation. It is not a 9-5 job like everyone else has it is 24 hr / 365 day a yr job. I remember my father on his knees sometimes all night praying for someone in our church who had problems. Pastors are people to and need support for their families. Pray and ask God to help the church support it's pastor and show him love as he loves his congregation. God has put him there to serve you. Serve him with love as well.
---Marla on 11/3/05


As a PK I can say that I have heard many people say a pastor should work for free. Pators work harder than many people I know. Also they do not just work on Sunday morning. They work 24/7 caring for their flock. A pastor many times has a family to feed as well. why not be thankful you have a pastor and not split hais about his wage. How much has he done for your family? What is it worth to you.
---Craig on 11/2/05


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If it was me and the church was truly hurting and needing and I was able to do it myself, I would help for no cost whatsoever. The Bible says that they that preach the gopel should live of the gospel and a laborer is worth of his hire. We have to be careful not to abuse the servant of God also.
---James on 11/2/05


It usually comes down to the "bottom line". What is the average income of the families in the church? What is the living income for that area? What does this pastor "bring to the table"? Can he have a part-time job to supplement his income? Is there a paying job within the church the wife can do? These are some of the questions you need to ask - but the most important two are: is the church looking for God's man? And is he is of the opinion God is leding him there?
---WIVV on 11/2/05


The bible says a man is worth his hire. i believe a pastor should be paid in accordance with the present day wage. it would be a disgrace to God if one of his called needed to accept help from a nonchristian organization to live.
---tony on 11/2/05


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