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Bible States No Christmas Trees

A elderly woman appproached me in a store when she saw I was buying a small christmas topiary/tree and told me that in the bible it says not to cut down a tree and adorn it with silver and gold. Has anyone else heard of this scripture and where is it found in the bible?

Moderator - In ancient times the winter solstice was celebrated in Babylon as the birth day of Tammuz, the god of vegetation. According to the pagans, the god Nimrod would visit the evergreen tree and leave gifts upon it. This festival became known as the Saturnalia, and friends and family would exchange gifts. Jeremiah 10:2-4

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There is no verse condemning Christmas trees.
---Eloy on 1/12/09


...Christmas tree has nothing to do with what the Bible says about the Pagan ...have to be able to differentiate between the two. it's not hard to do is it?
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if it has "nothing to do with what the bible says" then why do you bow down to it? and risk your crown to keep it

ancient Israel followed pagan idolatry and the god of this world 2Corin 4:4 ...and "christians" think they are special and different brushing off those silly ancient "stories" and LESSONS to easily and smoothly BLEND pagan traditions of men (Mark 7:6-9) INTO Gods Word calling evil vile filth good WHEN God condemns

God tells those who believe HIS HOLY WORD HE HATES PAGAN WAYS how hard is that to understand?
---Rhonda on 1/11/09


The tree they speak of in the Bible is pagan.

But in our house as for many Christians,the Christmas tree has nothing to do with what the Bible says about the Pagan and their tree they worshiped.

You have to be able to differentiate between the two. it's not hard to do is it?

Our tree is a decoration not an idol.
We are not pagan , we are Christian.

Everything we do at Christmas time revolves around Christ!The Greatest gift of all!
Christmas-a commemoration of the historic moment!God became man in order to live among us-A day Our Salvation was born!We have cause to celebrate-a reason to share our faith with as many people as possible!
---paul on 1/7/09


I think the issue here is replicating Babylonian paganism which as the anti-christ child (Nimrod) reborn. His wife (Queen of Heavan) started alot of these customs. They refelect the anti-christ return like Nimrod. (pagan one world mixed religion). These pretty customs have human sacrifice and profane sexual meanings behind them.

In NT Paul preached against idol worship lifestyle in Acts 19 & 2nd Cor 6: 13-17. 1 John 5:21 warns us to avoid idols.

Many are unaware of this because the Roman church mixed the early church traditions and Christians have been confused since then. Jesus did celebrate HANNUKH on the 25th John 10:21-22. It warns of the anti-Christ.
---Yochanon on 12/22/08


.bob, learn the truth.
---Eloy on 12/22/08




Yes, the Christmas tree is pagan. Please read Jeremiah 10v2-4. December 25th is in fact the birth date of the Babylonian fertility god Tammuz. Do we really think the God of all creation, the Creator of Heaven and earth, would share the birthdate of Yeshua Ha' Meshiach, with what God Himself called an abomination? Gods' Word commands us to celebrate seven annual feasts. None of which are Christmas or Easter. By the way Easter is named after Tammuz' mother Ishtar. Your Bibles are not just a book to carry into church or to sit on a coffee table so guests can see how religious we are. Remove the religiosity, NO ONE will gain access to Heaven through their religion, only by a one on one relationship with Jesus the Christ.
---Bob on 12/21/08


decorating a tree is no more a sin than decorating the walls of your home with paint or other artistry, or decorating your body with clothing, etc. The unlearned corrupt scriptures onto supporting incorrect teachings: "They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be carried, because they cannot walk. The woodstock is a doctrine of vanities. Silver beaten into plates, and gold, the work of the workman, and of the hands of the metalsmith: blue and purple is their clothing. Every metalsmith is confounded by the graven image: for his molten image is falsehood, and no breath in them." Jeremiah 10:5,8,9,14. This is no description of a Christmas tree here, but an idol made out of wood.
---Eloy on 12/4/08


Is it wrong to eat certain fruits and vegetables because certain non-Christian religions offer them to their gods or dead ancestors? How many Christians dance around and pray to their Christmas trees or to idols that once were represented by trees? We decorate our tree with mangers and other Biblical themes that I have searched for or my late husband and I made by hand. I think the scripture says it is wrong to worship things that represent idolatry, but if your Christmas tree does not represent idols where is the blasphemy? To me an orange is just an orange eaten for nourishment, not food for the gods.
---Judianna on 12/2/08


Last year, my family did not put up a Christmas tree after reading our bible. There is definately a cultural pull, cultural peer pressure or mere tradition of putting up a Christmas tree. It's this pressure that I still feel this year that makes me feel that I was in fact worshiping the tree as an idol. I would challenge other Bible believing Christians test their reasons for putting up a tree.

In God we trust.
---R&R on 12/2/08


Jer. 10:1-5, It's all there.
---Aharon on 12/1/08




Jessi ... where?
---alan_of_UK on 11/30/08


It says in the bible not to put up a Christmas tree, but you always need to have your heart in the right place. The pagans put up christmas trees and worshipped them. God should be the only one we worship.
---Jessi on 11/29/08


Tree worship: -part of Ancient Egyptian religious orders carried from Babylon. Symbolizations are found today in mystery religions. The popes staff carries the pine cone symbol, whereas they openly admit to a Solinvictus Egyptian heritage. And who cares anyway. Symbolistic unknowns are popular. By the way the bible never says Babylon mystery religion.
Mystery religions today - in hiding. Sources hide them as tribal and primitive in some remote, isolated, ambiguous village. Call me later.
---jhonny on 12/27/07


Hi,
Your blog is interesting.
---Mark on 12/10/07


how about a Nativity Tree?
That would work
---lisa on 12/7/07


They preached Christ crucified. That Christ came in the flesh, born of a woman, son of a man. Nine months survived in (by) water. Born into the world, This Life now in the blood. The Spirit is a witness(record) of his coming in the flesh.
1Jo 5:6 This is he that came by water and blood, [even] Jesus Christ, not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.
Those who deny living flesh are antichrist. Wrong date of birth?
---jhonny on 11/28/07


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Maybe we can learn something from Martin Luther, who supposedly put the first lights on a christmas tree, candles no less. To symbolize the light of Christ through the season.
---dan on 11/28/07


Very good Moderator.
---catherine on 11/28/07


"Be not afraid of them, for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good" ... i.e. it doesn't matter
---rob on 11/28/07


I don't get into specifics. I focus on the basics of Christianity and hold fast to my beliefs. If someone does not feel comfortable in doing something, then don't do it! Be persuaded in your own mind according to Romans chapter 14. let the word of God be your guide. I celebrate Christmas. I use a tree and decorations. If that sends me to Hell...oh well. I try to make sure my heart is right towards Jesus and that puts me in right standing with the Father. Nothing can separate me from that.
---Robyn on 11/5/07


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Question: Why does when people use Bible quotes to attack other Christians does it sound exactly like the pharasis when they attacked Jesus using the law of Moses?
---francis on 11/5/07


The KJB is the purified word of God. Celebrating Xmas and Easter, pagan holidays, is sin. Before the Civil War,Christians did not have Xmas trees. . The Statue of "Liberty" is a graven image of Semiramis/Mary looking toward Rome. The USA is ESAU and has sold it's birthright. Read your Bible (KJB) and study history. I hate God's enemies with a perfect hatered, God is angry with the wicked everyday, God hates all the workers of iniquity (all this is Bible). Where is the remnant? Al Taylor
---Alan on 11/4/07


So true, InimicusStultitiae, sounds like something I would say. Rings & trees... Tree rings... I would also add Sunday keeping in substitute for keeping the 4th Commandment. There's just NO biblical justification for it. The day is not the problem. The substitution is.
---Geoff on 10/7/07


It is interesting that Christians who reject the use of Christmas trees as pagan will wear wedding rings, whose origins are equally pagan.
---InimicusStultitiae on 10/7/07


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Geez, moderator, let it rest. This topic has been going on in more than one blog long enough. Christmas is a celebration of Jesus Christ's birth. It is regarded as a time of perpetual hope, peace, and joy because it's recognizing the birth of the Holy One who lived to die in order to set us all free. Only those who have gone looking for reasons to shoot down Christmas and Easter (and those people are generally zealots or not Christians anyway)know or care where either actually originated.

Moderator - Please show the scriptures that state those who use the Bible as their guide are not Christians or are zealots.
---Heather on 6/16/07


Lorra: When you are adorning the tree with trinkets, are you glorifying the creation or the creator? Does the Christmas tree glorify God? Are you the type of person who mix church with Eastern traditions like yoga?
---Steveng on 2/20/07


Reading the whole bible, including the apocrypha, since I was a rc, took me almost a year. everynight, in bed, until I fell asleep. It was the Bible alone that took me out of the rcc. I wasn't frequenting any protestants or anything, and now I do. Important to say that prostestantism is full of errors too, in a lesser degree though.
---george on 2/20/07


The biggest protestant error is to follow the governments (like bush)almost as if he were the pope. of course they kill people thinking they are doing christ a favor. No way! Saw what the amish did when that guy killed their daughters? That was an awesome testimony of christianity.
---george on 2/20/07


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It is an error, dear emcee, to follow another man like you, because "its a self evident truth that all men are created equal" The american constitution clearly wants the PEOPLE to take the decisions and limits a lot the power of the central government, to prevent tyranny like it was in the catholic and even protestant kingdoms in Europe and the rest of the world. But that has changed a lot to prepare the way for a final holocaust and inquisition, where many will think they serve God by killing.
---george on 2/20/07


George ::Another curiousity How long did it take you to read the whole Bible OT NT & Letters & revalation.
---Emcee on 2/20/07


DEAR BECCA: The lady was right. In deed did you know that the pilgrims outlawed christmas because the Bible doesn't tell you to celebrate it nor it tells you the date of Jesus Birth, and its a widely known fact that the 25th of december celebration has pagan origins. Its fully documented. In any case I strongly advise you to read your whole Bible and see for yourself. From the beginning, to the end. From Genesis to Revelation.
---george on 2/19/07


Jeremiah 10, 2-4 is speaking of an idol, not a Christmas tree. I have heard of Saturnalia and many other pagan rituals that have been incorporated into our Christian Tradition, but unlike the warnings of Jeremiah, we are not learning from the pagans for we are not using their traditions to worship their gods, as was done in Jeremiah's time. We have transformed their traditions to bring the pagans to us. If you don't worship your Christmas tree, it shouldn't be a problem.
---lorra8574 on 2/19/07


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well look at Jer 10:3 - 10:4
---jamie on 2/19/07


Looks 'pagan' to me. So I think I'll be safe with following scripture as someone quoted Jer. 10..."learn not the ways of the heathen..." which ironically alludes to the decking of a TREE!
We are commanded to commemorate the death of Christ every Passover (Lord's Supper). But as usual, people do the 'opposite' and celebrate his Birth which is NOT commanded. And to top it off, they throw Christ into a Pagan holiday instead of God's Holy Day (Passover).
---Audrey on 12/27/06


**Moderator - In ancient times the winter solstice was celebrated in Babylon as the birth day of Tammuz, the god of vegetation. According to the pagans, the god Nimrod would visit the evergreen tree and leave gifts upon it. This festival became known as the Saturnalia, and friends and family would exchange gifts.**

Moderator, can you give historical sources for this--other than Hislop's TWO BABYLONS, which has been found full of errors?
---Jack on 12/27/06


I'm sorry I'm just learning but from what I understand that verse is in the Old testament and as Christians aren't we suppose to live by the rules of the New Testament? Doesn't the New Testament tell us now how we are supoose to live now?
---Gabrielle_Francis on 12/26/06


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In Jeremiah 10 it clearly states that we should not learn the ways of the heathen which involved them cutting a tree and then decorating it with ornaments . When we do this we are clearly disobeying Gods word.In Exodus 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image,or any likeness that is in the earth beneath or that is in the water under the earth so even if our tree is artificial as well as other items that are images we are still disobeying Gods words
---sarah on 12/22/06


This is a good question. There is a lot of history to consider. Everyone must come to their own conclusion. I don't think I want to celebrate Jesus' birthday with pagan traditions. "People perish for the lack of knowledge." Just because you don't know it's pagan doesn't mean you won't pay the price. My New Revelation? Any object that represents any living thing is considered an idol, according to the Ten Commandments. In my heart, that includes trees.
---faye4464 on 12/17/06


It's saddens me Christians will fight over what days are of Christ & what are'nt, all we have to do is stand by the Word of G-d there's nowhere in the Bible that says to decorate trees and do these things unto Christ,we argue over these so-called holy days that were 1st used to honor other gods and stamp the name of YESHUA on them, but can't keep the actual HOLY DAYS that were given to us as a people in the bible..will we go to hell for these things (no) but GOD says Obedience is better than sacrifice..
---JOSIAH on 12/16/06


You have to put these passages into context. Jeremiah was refering to the state of Israel after it was conquered by King Nebuchadnezzar of Persia/Babylon as told in 2nd Kings. Many Jews were sent to Persia as slaves but some stayed in Jerusalem and Judah and were forced to assimilate into Persian society. Jeremiah 10:1-25 is saying; it is the hands of the craftsmen who make things of worship. These things are not Gods, so put no value into them as such.
---David on 12/15/06


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law, jesus being falsely arrested and maligned and insulted by the Roman abusers has no coorelation to decorated Christmas trees today. Until you see the truth, you will continue to walk in insult rather than in praises to Jesus, who was personally slain upon the tree for you.
---Eloy on 12/6/06


when I think of the roman soldiers crowning our dear innocent Lord with thorns and adorning him with the coat of blue n purple, it made me wonder if this was the inception of the decorated christmas trees to insult our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ the Son of God whom we worship and praise..this comes 2 mind every christmas..and I therefor dont celebrate it..I do see it as an insult..
---law on 12/6/06


Jacques, The 3 shepherds and the 3 magi came to personally see the real birth of Jesus, and the magi also came and offered him gifts of frankincense, sweet-smelling myrrh, and gold. This day indeed was the first celebration of Christmas, and it has absolutely nothing to do with paganism nor with imaginary pride. But you will believe whatever you desire.
---Eloy on 12/5/06


Jacques, I merely stated that the Bible says nothing about computers, brushing teeth, wearing deodorant, so that does not mean these things should not be done. The Bible speaks nothing about using electricity nor using toilettes, so it is ignorant to condemn good things just because they are not mentioned in the Bible.
---Eloy on 12/5/06


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Eloy, I thought the three shepards came to worship. How did you confuse that with a birthday party? And how do you compare using speed stick to worshipping God. Thats silly. Now, if you want to use pagan traditions for your God, so be it. Sounds like pride. I rather place my faith in the resurrection than an unknown birthday.
---Jacques on 12/5/06


Jacques, where does it say in the Bible that we should blog on computers? or where does it say that we should brush our teeth or put on deodorant? so then, we will celebrate Christ's birthday because it is fitting for man to do so, even as the three shepherds and the three magi have done so.
---Eloy on 12/4/06


because we should celebrate the incarnation of christ. and the death and resurrection of christ. because in his life we see God. and it is through Jesus that we can enter into the kingdom. the entire life of Christ is required for our sanctification and our justification not just one event. we are saved vicariously through the humanity of the incarnate Jesus.
---Jared on 12/4/06


I agree about the christmas tree, although one could symbolize it as being what holds up the star that led the wisemen to where the christ child was born. I personally don't celebrate Christmas like others do. We have dinner with family and remember that Christ was born to die for our sins. Without his birth, life, death and being risen again, we wouldn't have a way to the Father, and not much hope for salvation.
This is the how and why we celebrate this season. God bless
---Terri on 12/4/06


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Where in scripture does it say we should celebrate the birthday of Yahshua? Before Abraham was, I am. And why would you display a christmas tree if you know it has pagan roots. That's silly. The Scrooge character was created for psychological warfare. Christmas is a big hoax.
---Jacques on 12/4/06


Jeremiah 10:2-4: "Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not." (KJV).
---raylind on 12/4/06


The verse she was referring to was Jeremish 10:2-4.
---Tarrah on 12/4/06


You know if a lady told me not to put up a tree like mentioned in the question here, I'd probably tell her that I am too poor to adorn a tree with gold and if I could afford gold I'd probably adorn my wife with it since she doesn't even have a gold weding ring.
---Jared on 12/3/06


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As for me and my house we will serve the Lord.
---Mark on 12/2/06


pt 7: The Paradise tree became our Christmas tree, and the decorations which were placed on the pyramids were transferred to the Christmas tree. For many Christians the Christmas tree still holds the symbolism of the Paradise tree. The tree reminds us of the tree in Eden by which the first humans were overcome and fell into sin, yet even more, the tree reminds us of the tree by which our sin was overcome, that is the tree upon which Christ Jesus was crucified.
---Eloy on 12/2/06


pt 6: [ref: Elsassische Weihnacht; eds: J. Lefftz and A. Pfleger; publisher: Kolmar, 1941; cited in Weiser, 100.] And according to Weiser, the first mention of lights (candles) on a Christmas tree is in the seventeenth century. [ref: Weiser, 101, citing Elsassische Weihnacht 55.]
---Eloy on 12/2/06


pt 5: Most probably the first Christmas trees that appeared in Germany in the early 16th century derived from both of these customs: the Paradise tree, and the Christmas pyramids and lights. The earliest record of an evergreen tree being used and decorated (but without lights) for Christmas is 1521 A.D. in the German region of Alsace.
---Eloy on 12/2/06


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pt 4: Another custom was found in European homes of Christians on Dec. 24 since the late Middle Ages, about 1400 A.D. A large candle called the "Christmas light," symbolizing Christ who is the light of the world, was lit on Christmas Eve. In western Germany, many smaller candles were set upon a wooden pyramid and lit. Besides the candles, other objects such as glass balls, tinsel, and the "star of Bethlehem" were placed on its top.
---Eloy on 12/2/06


pt 3: The Paradise tree, as it had in the Paradise plays, symbolized both a tree of sin and a tree of life. For this reason, the people decorated these trees with apples (representing the fruit of sin) and homemade wafers (like communion wafers representing the fruit of life). Later, candy and sweets were added.
---Eloy on 12/2/06


pt 2: From this tree, at the appropriate time in the play, the woman would take the fruit, eat it, and give it to Adam. Because of inappropriate behavior that crept into the mystery plays, the Church forbade these plays during the 15th century. But the people grew accustomed to the Paradise tree, so that they started putting their own Paradise tree up in their homes on Dec. 24. They did so on Dec. 24 because in the Eastern Church this was the feast day celebrating the first two humans.
---Eloy on 12/2/06


part 1: The evergreen tree symbolizes everlasting life in the winter. Christmas tree origin: From the 11th century, religious plays called "mystery plays" were popular in Europe. One main play was the "Paradise play", about the story of the first man and woman. It ends with the promise of the coming Savior and His Incarnation (ie: Gen. 3:15). The only prop on stage was the "Paradise tree," a fir tree adorned with apples.
---Eloy on 12/2/06


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A-men sister Barb and brother Allan. So many unlearned people misaaplying scripture to profess pet falsehoods, what sorry grinches such folks are. God likes variety and beautiful things, and therefore he likes decorations and decorated trees at Christmas, and I think the blue lights afford an interesting appeal and look rather neat on the trees outside at nighttime.
---Eloy on 12/2/06


christmas trees all decorated to me is a grim reminder of the way our Lord was decorated with barbed crown and with the blue purple gown they threw over Him while beating Him ... I dont have any in my house anymore. I see it as a support to the false celbration made to Christ when it should be Tammuz...Our Lord n Savior dont need this insult.
---lily on 12/2/06


Barbara, and AllanUK,
I thought it, you said it ...,:)
---lynet on 12/1/06


I don't see the chritmas tree as being any different than a picture hanging on a wall or other decorations in your home. So for the legalistic christians, if your home is decorated, is that also pagan worship of your home?
---barbara on 12/1/06


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"A tree in the home does not serve any purpose in the life of the godly person"
Nor of course does a vase of daffodils at the beginning of spring, or roses in the summer, or ... or ...
I'm sure God must hate pretty things
---AlanUK_quent5969 on 11/30/06


the actual christmas tree was used in Skandinavia not Babylon... Have you thought that Evergreen trees are prodominately in colder areas as well as High elevation. Vikings would hand the tree from the ceilings to bring luck and hope through the winter. Missionaries to the Vikings used that tree to point to Christ. Just like paul spoke about the unknown god in Athens.
---Jared on 11/30/06


since that time The Christmas tree has been used in the celebration of christ. Yes it had pagan roots, but that doesn't mean it can't be good. Look at it this way Christ defeated the Vikings and he took the tree as the spoil, and now we all can celebrate His victory.
---Jared on 11/30/06


Moderator, I agree wholeheartedly with the reality that Christians, born again individuals should not have a christmas tree in the home. A tree in the home does not serve any pupose in the life of the godly person. "have no other gods before me" the bible states! When we take the time to get a tree cut, to buy decorations for it, to decorate it, when we could be praying, reading Gods' word--THIS IS NO DOUBT PAGANISM.
---lavs on 11/30/06


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Yes, it has become a family tradiition and no doubt for christians, but because it is a man made ideology-- and not God. God did not instruct us to cut the tree down and decorate it and it will represent the .....NO. 'WE MUST HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM, I REPEAT." Moderator you mentioned, about the tithing also. MOST DEFINITELY, not only a tithe belongs to God but everything that we possess.
---lavs on 11/30/06


"For the earth is the Lords' & the fullness thereof, the world & they that dwell therein." YES, WE SHOULD PAY A TITHE of our earnings, but we should give both financially, physically (of ourselves) and spiritually. PLEASE NOTE, that unless you understand Gods' will in your life, nothing in this world should come between our worship to God, you simply cannot understand the IDOLATRY that involves putting up a christmas tree, beautify it so it looks all pretty and stuff, placing gifts underneath
---lavs on 11/30/06


MODERATOR---THIS IS NOT BIBLICAL AT ALL, NOR CAN IT BE. It is also very trivial to discuss or try to even prove this rational to individuals who lack the spiritual wisdom of God. YES JEREMIAH talks about the Christmas tree--the old testament reflects the new, for the old testament was a shadow of things to God whether Christ was not born then or night. Isaiah speaks of the birth of Christ before he was born...
---lavs on 11/30/06


Moderator, Jeremiah 10:1-14 condemns idolatry, and not Christmas trees which came into existance long after Christ was born on earth. Jeremiah here talks about the idolatry of carving statues and figures out of wood. "The woodstock speaks not, they must be carried because they cannot walk. Silver beaten into plates, the work of the hands of the metalsmith. Every metalsmith is confounded by the graven image: for his molten image is falsehood, and there is no breath in them." Jeremiah 10:5,8,9,14.
---Eloy on 11/24/06


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Christmas was celebrated on December 25th with confirmation in the mid 4th century A.D. by the Latin, Greek, and Hebrew Christians in Jerusalem at that time. And after the publishing of the first English Bible, Christmas began to be celebrated by the English Christians in Europe in 1400 A.D. The earliest record of an evergreen tree being used and decorated (but without lights) for Christmas is 1521 A.D. in the German region of Alsace.
---Eloy on 11/24/06


Yes I have absalutly heard of this. I am trying to look it up right now. My husband and I did not put up a tree last year b/c of this. I did not save where it was in the bible and now can't find it. I want to read the scripture again in context. But yes, I read it last year and it does say not to decorate it with silver or gold. And I know of other people that have read the same thing. I'll let you know if I find it.
---ashley on 11/24/06


Oh Brother, Tiff. It's supper time. That kind of spoiled my dinner.
---R.A. on 11/6/06


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