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Is The USA Mystery Babylon

Is the U.S.A. MYSTERTY BABYLON?

Moderator - No, that would be impossible. Read Revelation Chapters 17-18 and then study the history Christianity and you will have your answer.

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Steveng:

"The biggest military arsenal?" Who would protect the weaker nations FROM the USA?

"The greatest financial wealth?" a national debt that pales that of all other nations, and the only first world country without universal health care.

While America may be great in many ways, she has fallen in many others.
---StrongAxe on 3/6/08


It is NOT impossible, but it is not "likely." Be true to God in your Christian walk and it will not be an issue for you.
---kevin on 3/5/08


StevenG ... You show that it is a question of how greatest is defined.
The military arsenal of the US is probably not the greatest in the world.
The US is greatly in debt to China.
It is more a question of HOW a nation uses their wealth/power/history/influence.
Now on charitable giving, yes the USA probably gives most, but per capita, the UK gives more. I don't think either should claim to be the greatest.
---alan_of_UK on 7/2/07


alan_of_UK: What shape would the world be in without the USA?

"The biggest military arsenal?" Who would protect the weaker nations but the USA?

"The greatest financial wealth?" Who in the world could finance the medical, science and technology (for the good).

And who in the world could match the charitable giving to other countries?

And who in the world could match the mission outreach to other countries?
---Steveng on 6/28/07


Sarah: "...and shut your mouth."

Gosh, that was an unChristian command. But we should do as the old cliche says, "God gave us two ears and one mouth, we should listen twice as much as we talk." If no one talked, no one would be saved, eh. :)
---Steveng on 6/27/07




Golly Sarah, did you read what the Mod said...

"Moderator - No, that would be impossible. Read Revelation Chapters 17-18 and then study the history Christianity and you will have your answer."
---TreeTrimmer on 6/27/07


Sarah ... How do you define "greatest"?
The country with the soundest morals?
With the richest history?
The biggest military arsenal?
The greatest financial wealth?
The most people?
The USA would fail on most of these counts!!
---alan_of_UK on 6/27/07


Honestly people, who is the "greatest" country in the world? The USA. No other country fits the description of mystery Babylon as easily as the USA. Open your eyes & ears to what's going on in the world right now and shut your mouth.
---Sarah on 6/27/07


Some things can be reasoned out, but not this topic. All throughout history, man has pointed the finger to who the Anitchrist is - including Stalin, Hitler, and Bush - without success. The same for the Mystery Babylon. We are only to be aware of end-time events not debate them. There are only two commnadments Jesus spoke of in the NT and God spoke of in the OT to prepare us. Do these and go to heaven no matter if you believe in the pre, mid, or post tribulation rapture.
---Steveng on 6/26/07


Dima, you are close. Babylon is pagan Rome, Peter signed off from Babylon in one of his epistles, but he was actually in Rome at the time. Babylon is used to describe the enemies of God's people because that was the familiar role of the original Babylon. When Jews or early Christians mentioned Babylon, they knew just what it referred to.

John's writings in Revelation picked up that very common and familiar theme.
---lorra8574 on 6/26/07




Dima, P2, now given how the Jews used apocalypic language, Babylon which was definitely Pagan Rome in the first and second centuries (martyrs abounded), it can also refer to any enemy to God's people - any group that persecutes us for believing in Jesus Christ.
---lorra8574 on 6/26/07


Mystery Babylon is the USA! Read Jer 50-51 and Isaiah 13-14 in conjunction with Rev 17-18. The papal system isn't the Economic and military powerhouse described. The USA is a single political entity ("city") on 7 "mountains" (i.e., all continents w/US military bases). Hislop had good stuff, but he was over-anxious to make the golden cup the mass (It isn't: see Jer 25:26). Flee!
---Matt on 6/26/07


No,infact, seems like the US is about to lose some worldwide status . I believe that Babylon is Iraq due to the oil ,wickedness and I think the original Babylon was located there as well. Oil has generated a great deal of wealth in a number of countries through various means. And its distruction seen as burning smoke could be oil fires. Most countries have or do trade with Iraq and could be viewed as fornicated with it per Rev 17. Their firm stance against Christianity make them enemies of God too.
---jody on 5/19/07


Thanks to our Canadian friends for your support. The USA I was born into 64 years ago no longer exists. The genuine goodness and common decency that once abounded in our citizenry is on the decline. I believe that the 1st beast of Rev 13 is the RC papal system, and the second beast is the US. That beast started like a lamb, but began to speak as a dragon, then set up an image to the first beast and compelled all to worship this image or be killed. Also it established the mark of the first beast.
---jerry6593 on 5/19/07


No, the USA is not Babylon.Rome is.Rome is very much the Bablylon of the Apocalypse.The essential character of her system; the grand objects of her worship,festivals,doctrine,discipline,rites,ceremonies,priesthood and their orders have been derived from ancient Babylon.
---Dima on 5/18/07


To fully understand how utterly Babylonic Rome is, GET the book titled ''The Two Babylons'' by Alexander Hislop. It gives you the origins of:
The Mass
Mother and Child
The Wafer ( Eucharist )
Purgatory
Rosary
Prayers for the dead
Worship of Sacred Heart
Clothing and crowning of images
Sovereign Pontiff
Sign of the Cross
Confessional
Priests, Monks & Nuns
Relic Worship
Extreme Unction and much more!
---Dima on 5/18/07


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Isn't Babylon the new Roman Empire that is to come to power again? Also, my exminister says the USA isn't in the Bible.
---Nellah on 5/11/07


greetings,for mikem,can you expand on your statement?
---earl on 10/20/06


Secrets given to Cain down through the ages. Secrets imparted to the European Union. It is Europe based, from western Europe Babylon will, no IS emerging.
---MikeM on 10/20/06


No, the USA is not mystery Babylon. The Roman Catholic Church is mystery Babylon.
---Helen_5378 on 10/20/06


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"Isn't Babylon the new Roman Empire that is to come to power again"

It certainly fits the description, doesn't it?
---Kay on 10/20/06


Joseph's two children who are blessed in Genesis are the fathers of Great Britian and the USA. If you want documentation study the migration of Israel after the last exile. They crossed the Caucas mountains into ancient Scotland/Ireland. Do a study for yourself it is fascinating.

Mystery Babylon is a predominant world religion sitting on many waters which represents nations. Drink of the cup of her fornication means whoring after another Christ... read on spiritually and you will understand.
---kevin on 8/19/06


No america is not the mystery babylon it is jerusalem that is the mystery baylon. As theres hints of it in the bible. Also America is a nation not a city. As jerusalem is reponsible for slaying of the prophets. It is also spritually called sodom and eygpt. Upon is all the blood slain upon the earth. As she is spoke of in chapter 11, 14, 17 and 18 And its the throne of the antichrist and she will be destroyed according to the book of revealation.
---Richard on 5/23/06


John - I'm Canadian too (in fact we're almost neighbors. I read on another blog that you are from Quesnel and I'm from Grande Prairie). I love my Country but I agree with you about the U.S. The rest of world is indebted to the U.S. and we need to tell them more often that we love and appreciate them! God bless our dear American friends in Jesus' name!
---DoryLory on 12/30/05


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Bob 'His Church, of which America has been blessed to be the "base" of' America, the base of God's church?
---alan8869_of_UK on 12/30/05


LOLLOL.This is the best laugh I've had in a long time.You guys in the U.S. send more aid to the poor and supply the world with more missionaries who go all over the world preaching the Gospel than any other country in the world. How can you be the mystery Babylon? You keep going. God has and is blessing you. If it wasn't for you the world would be an absolute mess. We love you all. Be blessed and don't get worried. Just keep doing what you are doing.
---john on 12/30/05


As long as there is 10 righteous people in the U.S I Won't be too worried about it. I'm Canadian. I think we are worse than the U.S. We qualify better than you to be mystery Babylon. What a laugh. Just when the continent is pushing on revival and thousands of people are getting saved some wacky preacher gets a bunch of followers on something he pulled out of his hat.I'll just keep on winning souls while he is out there getting disciples of his own.
---john on 12/30/05


Listen to these audios from a true prophet what is happening to USA soon. USA is the Babylon.
---Clas on 12/29/05


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When America loses it's flavour [salt/preservative(s), i.e. Echad's/God's Church], ANYTHING'S POSSIBLE! Echad's/God's Covenant(s) are with Israel & His Church, of which America has been blessed to be the "base" of. What do you think the present war(s) & genocides are about?
Mk.13:28-33.
---bob6749_[Elishama] on 11/22/05


If ancient Tarshish of Ezekiel 38:13 is present day Great Britain, or can be linked to it, America would be one of several "young lions" in v.13, or younger nations "mothered" by today's Britain. If so, what does that say about our role of prominence today? Babylon? One physical, one spiritual! Was not Israel referred to as Sodom & Egypt once? [Isa.1:1-9].
---bob6749_[Elishama] on 11/22/05


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