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Are Orthodox Jews Anti-Christ

Are orthodox Jews anti-christs? They reject JESUS as the CHRIST. Read 1 JOHN 2-22&23.

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Throughout history, in general, the Jews are well-known to be stiff-knecked and hard-hearted and for persecuting and killing the prophets sent by God to them, and Jesus was no acception. Those Jews whom knew that Jesus Christ was the Salvation sent from God to save them (for he preached this and proved this by his works that only God can do), but they hated him and slew him anyway, these are indeed antiChrist and the children of Satan and never receive redemption from God, even as Jesus said. But the other Jews whom knew not that Jesus was their Messiah may obtain forgiveness and salvation.
---Eloy on 9/15/08

There is anti which means "against" and anti which means "substitute for", depending whether you derive it from the Latin or the Greek. The antichrist of the end times warned about in the Bible is a person who is set up as a substitute for Jesus (may I say similar to the position of the Pope on earth for the Roman Catholic Church) anyone "against" Jesus as Christ (eg Jews)can be said to be anti Jesus but is not necessarily substituting themselves to be a Messiah.
---Jannette on 9/15/08

Rejecting Jesus Christ as the Messiah, or the Son of God would never make one an anti-Christ, or the worst an "AntiChrist"! The Jews simply did not accept Jesus as the Messiah. Aside from "non-acceptance" the Jews did not do anything "malicious, vocal, physical, etc" to make them an anti-Christ.
---Linda6546 on 10/21/07

It's 2000 years later, and these courtroom accusations sound very familiar. Rachel***
---Rachel on 11/8/06

Jeanne_ you said" am Ashkenazi (Russian Jew) was Hasidic Sect, studied the Kabbala (mystic teachings)"
What Hasidic dynasty are you from? and of that dynasty name the last 5 rebbes. You haven't answered me on your background so since you say temple(which is used by reform) yet say your hasid I would like you to answer the questions of dynasty and rebbes. Once you answer those I'll have another question to follow, sorry I just want to know if you are legit or not.
---Jeff on 11/8/06

Jeanne, God's vote is more important than my vote. But you have my vote. A common Saudi society saying, "My cousin and I against the outsider, my brother and I against my cousin."
---anonymous on 11/7/06

Keep singing your praises of Jesus, Jeanne. Your voice is like fresh rain.
---Shiela on 11/7/06

Jeanne- I was responding to Mark's comment " your dead god was stoned to death by the Sanhedrin for being mechalel Shabbas among other averas." Are you agreeing that he was stoned by the sanhedrin for being mechalel shabbos,G-d forbid? Perhaps instead of trying to "keep an open mind" you should look at what you just agreed with. You think Yeshua sinned? My anger is that instead of using talmud to show the Master as the greatest, most orthodox rabbi alive, its used to profane him.
---Jeff on 11/6/06

Jeanne- "I went to Temple, was Kosher, spoke Hebrew etc." So you went to Temple (Reform?)what happened? where's the mitzvot, kashrut, etc.? You think Mashiach just comes, says"Oh that Moshe was wrong, forget the Torah, stop doing it, I'm here now so follow me & live how you want just not according to that nasty old torah." What, did Jews for Jesus get hold of you & strip you of your neshama? Contact me at jeff4449. I can say more without 85 word limit. Shalom b'yeshua,
---Jeff on 11/7/06

Mark who was stoned? I am Ashkenazi (Russian Jew) was Hasidic Sect, studied the Kabbala (mystic teachings) and I do not remember this being said, but each sect is slightly different. Did I miss this? It is mentioned in the NT they wanted to stone Him but He walked right thru them unharmed. I now follow Yeshua. Remember when using Hebrew terms explain most do not know the lingo. Shalom Bat 'tzion (peace son of Zion)
---Jeanne on 11/6/06

Jeff where is the anger coming from? It is good that Jews/Christians/etc. are talking- asking questions. Iron sharpens iron so a debate is always good gets the blood flowing,the mind challenged. Believe what U want but keep an open mind, listen w/an open ear if U disagree that is fine. But to "shut someone down on that 1 too" sounds harsh or brisk,each has the right to voice a view. U have the right to say Lo Tov (no good)but temper it w/manners, grace. Shalom bat Tzion
---Jeanne on 11/6/06

Who ever it was that said Jews do not worship a dead man on a stick is correct rather course language though. Even if U do not believe he was the messiah & think he was "just" a man He still suffered one of the most horrible ways of dying. He did so with a noble grace, forgave those there even in great pain, it says He did not even look like a man from being so tortured. So at least have pity & compassion for "the man" Christ Jesus if you can not believe he is God.
---Jeanne on 11/6/06

I find this site interesting in many ways. When an unbeliever shows up, a believer like Jeanne arrives. God is good.
---anonymous on 11/6/06

All reject Jesus that do not claim Him this is not a "Jewish" problem it is a universal problem. Remember Jesus was a Jew from a great heritage that is mentioned due to this. He loved His people when He walked on earth, wept for them, forgave them from the brutal cross even- are we not to do the same? Pray for Israel and its people they are hurt, wounded,lost w/out Christ like everyone else w/out Christ is.
---Jeanne on 11/6/06

Mark- Tora observant Jews don't worship dead men on sticks, especially since your dead god was stoned to death by the Sanhedrin for being mechalel Shabbas among other averas.
The man you speak of from Talmud(sanhedrin 43b) was not Yeshua of nazereth, besides why are you going to look for authority from Rabbis with no smikhah? The Yeshua in San.43b was from 100 years before the time of Yeshua of Naz. and don't even mention ben Pandera cause I will shut you down on that one too.
---Jeff on 11/6/06

I am by blood a Jew but by belief a Christian. I went to Temple, was Kosher, spoke Hebrew etc. Bottom line Christ said there is but one way -thru Him. That is it- not the law, good works or your bloodline. Oh to the blue eyed comment I understand but "we" come in all shapes, colors, and sizes even those born in Israel since we were slaves, taken, and scattered in the OT and NT.
---Jeanne on 11/6/06

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John 2-22&23, these scriptures speak for themselves, they are the definition of Anti-Christ. your either for him or against him it's as simple as that. those that are against him we are commanded to have nothing to do with them.2 John 1:10-11 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine,(thatJesus is Christ) receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.Exzucuh
---Exzucuh on 3/29/06

Jews are the same as any other non-Christian: Buddhist, Taolist, Muslim, etc. Judaism is a major world religion. Scripture says all sin is disbelief, but that we are not supposed to judge. That means that we don't choose specific sins not to judge, such as homosexuality, but the the general disbelief itself. God is the judge. And we are to have a general love of the human race, an admonishment from the book of Timothy.
---Anna on 3/29/06

Mark presumably you are addressing us as Christians when you say "your dead god was stoned to death by the Sanhedrin for being mechalel Shabbas among other averas"
Who do you say our dead god is, who was stoned to death? And can you explain in clearer english, for the sake of us unversed in yuor theological language, what the reason was?
---alan_of_UK on 3/29/06

You are right, Darlene.Tora observant Jews don't worship dead men on sticks, especially since your dead god was stoned to death by the Sanhedrin for being mechalel Shabbas among other averas.
---mark on 3/29/06

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Bible's test for antichrist;2 John1:7-who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh.This is a deceiver and an antichrist.Also;1John4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God:and this is the spirit of antichrist.1John2:22-23 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ?He is antichrist that denieth the Father and the son.Whosoever denieth the Son,the same hath not the Father:he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
---Darlene_1 on 12/31/05

mike6553, even if "flesh & blood has not revealed this to you", it still makes a lot of sense! Jesus is the name most Jews have a problem with, being a "gentile or Greek god" to most. But mention Yeshua, Messias, Isa.53rd chapter in the right way, & you'll get their attention one way or another, as they know more about us than we about them, although we're "grafted" into them spiritually, & not them into us!
---bob6749_[Elishama] on 11/22/05

Depends on the Messiah we affer them. How do you picture Jesus?
I heard a preacher say that we would look into the blue eyes of Jesus. You what?
Jesus was a Jew, of a long line of Jews, he would not have been blue eyed, blond haired Aryan.
If we offered them a Jewish Jesus, they might respond.
---mike6553 on 11/20/05

mima: The first part of your question is 'No' because "Christos" is the Septuagint (Greek OT used in Jesus' time) word for Messiah! Are orthodox Jews anti-Messiah? Of course not. In 1John2:22-23, John was speaking about what we'd called "christian cults" today instead of Jews rejecting Jesus as Messiah. 1 John relates to FALSE prophets in the Church; not unbelieving Jews. Always look for the CONTEXT of a whole book for understanding.
---Daniel on 11/16/05

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--2-- The rabbi at the service left when the Christian preacher there got up and started talking about Jesus and ways of the N.T. which was very telling.
---Heather on 11/12/05

No, the Jewish people are God's chosen people. I attended a funeral for an uncle who was Jewish yesterday and a preacher (not a rabbi) explained it to me. No, Judaeism doesn't accept any part of the N.T; they believe in intercessory prayer and good works getting one into Heaven (practices of the O.T.). Orthodox Jews don't believe in embalming, thus they're buried within a few hours and the vigil then begins (I believe it's called shiva [sp?]). The unorthodox "sit shiva" before the burial.
---Heather on 11/12/05

John 12:37-43 (vs40) He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eys, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.
2Corinthians 3:13,14 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the veil is upon their heart. 16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the veil shall be taken away.
---Ulrika on 11/12/05

yes, every one who rejects Christ is anti-Christ. Jesus said if you deny me before men, then i will deny you before my Father in heaven and before his holy angels. Jesus was a Jew and he came to his own, but his own received him not. They did to him whatever they wanted, yelling, "Crucify him!" Jesus said that these Jews were of their father the devil. Please read John 8:21-24,37-59.
---Eloy on 11/12/05

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I agree, orthodox Jews were/are not antiChrist's, just blinded & ignorant 'til "The Times Of The Gentiles" are litterally complete [I believe we are living in those times now]. Lke.21:20-24, Rom.11:8-36 [Zech.13:1-9].

P.S., Kind of tough living & being killed as "Christ killers" among other things [Isa.53:1-(10)12].
---bob6749_[Elishama] on 11/12/05

They aren't 'anti-Christ' as we would normally think of the word. To the orthodox Jew, there is no Christ, therefore no one to be "anti" against. At best He was a prophet, a good man, and things like that. A young Jewess told me, the Jew will ackowlege Christ as Messiah when He returns as King; not as a "lamb" like the first time.
---WIVV on 11/11/05

For orthodox Jews to be called "anti-Christ" then movements similar to anti-semitic movements must be heaped by them against Christ!
---Linda6546 on 11/11/05

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