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Xmas Is Same As Christmas

I need to ask you Bible scholars some question. Someone asked the question...Why was Xmas being used for the word Christmas, and this is the answer that another person gave. Xmas is a misnomer in the Greek lanuage. The term "Xmas" for Christmas is greek in origin. Christ in Greek

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alan8566_of_uk

Yes jesus is pagan, for its not even the Messiah's Name. His Name is Yeshua and he was not born on dec 25, but the son of the sun god was, name mithras!!! You celebrate mithras's b-day and dont even know it or dont care. So yes your learning the way of the heathen! You use pagan symbols which the Almighty YHVH has condemned, but you dont care about this either. You figure since you put a christian name on it that it will be accepted. YHVH doesnt change, so if its not acceptable then, it cant be now either.
---wayne on 11/22/09


I prefer "Christmas", rather than "Xmas". "Christ" is a much more beautiful word. The word "Christ" reminds me of the words "crystal clear" and "top crest": but the word "X" or "Ex" does not remind me much of anything, except perhaps maybe remotely it reminds me of the word "cross".
---Eloy on 11/22/09


MERRY CHRISTMAS to all who celebrate the earthy coming of our glorious Savior and King, Jesus Christ.
---Donna66 on 11/22/09


Rhonda that is one great post!!!

Don't ever soften your resolve (I know you never will). You carry a great sword with and speak great words of God. I am always learning and you have strengthen my faith.

I know now that are others out there who are true Christians and will never compromise the word of God. No matter what the world says or does. Just like Jesus, and the Apostles. They didn't care whst "MEN" thought! They left the world when they married Christ and now the world has becomme their enemy and truly you have suffered in His name. What a Christian!

P.S. You remimd me of the Great Women of scripture (i.e Deborah). One of my Heroes!

May God Always Bless you!
---PASTOR_JIM on 11/21/09


follow God or a Pagan Roman Emperor. That is your personal choice, and Gods Judgement."

You are condemning us pastor, and you said you were not.
*****

Gods Word condemns and those who quote scripture do not condemn you ...because you LOVE the world and all that is in it you believe you are personally attacked ...this is because YOU DEFEND pagan traditions of men that God HATES - per scripture

Jim only pointed out scripture ...sadly as the messenger (sharing Word of God) you believe he "judges" you because you ignore the message FROM GOD

the WORLD through RCC who created xmas teaches one can "christianize" a day - God says do not mix pagan with me

YOU - by free moral agency - CHOOSE
---Rhonda on 11/21/09




MarkV,

Because those are that facts. Not my opinion. It is not me who is comdemming or judging. I just gave you the facts.
So yes, do you follow a Pagan Roman Emperors Holy Decree or Gods. Christmas (Dec 25th) is not in the bible, but it is in the Holy Roman Empire as a Holy Day. So who do you follow? Even if you say you use that particualr day indirectly and used the pagan holy day to worhip Christ. Meaning you do not use any Christmas icons etc. Which I doubt, since they are in all church sanctuaries and Christian homes.

Yes, God is the final Judge of your decision. He always is.
---PASTOR_JIM on 11/21/09


Xmas is to Christmas as Xtal is to Crystal. There is no moral character to any of these words.
---Curious.one on 11/21/09


Thanks Rhonda!!
---alan8566_of_uk on 11/21/09


People who are stuck in the law and good works are miserable. Has anyone ever noticed that? They serve out of fear and havent the slightest bit of true love for God. It shows in the fruit they exhibit. Backbiting, unmerciful, judgemental, quick to condemn, requiring goodness before forgiveness, anger, harsh words

The only way to escape their seering conscience is to come to place like this so they can exalt themselves as 'true' Christians.

The relief doesnt last long though... does it?

Its very easy to feel better about our own sin when we are busy condemning someone else for theirs. Its like a drug. But when the fix is gone, the misery sets in again. And it gets worse with each passing day...
---JackB on 11/21/09


Rhonda ... the use of lots of BLOCK CAPITALISED UPPER CASE does make it much more difficult to read
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Alan

there is no "aggressiveness" I'm unsure why a word capitalized would bring about that feeling for me it is no different than bold or italics

I appreciate your responses because it allows me to continue to learn read and study ...unlike some who post once then run off to some distant island never to be heard from again because they tell you that your not saved or your going to hell or some such "christian response"

we can disagree in Gods Word which allows us to study more and grow truly appreciate that

I will attempt to curb my CAPS and use bolding and italics
---Rhonda on 11/20/09




Pastor Jim, You said you only gave advice and it is up to us to follow or not, but the reason I answered this blog is because you said,
"Your decide who your will follow God or a Pagan Roman Emperor. That is your personal choice, and Gods Judgement."

You are condemning us pastor, and you said you were not. If we don't listen to you we are condemned because as you say we decided to follow a pagan Roman Emperor. We are following Christ and you say we are not. How can you a sinner, see our hearts? brother you go to far pushing what you seem to think is truth on others and if they don't listen they are condemned. I don't say to you, you have to follow Romans 14 are you go to hell. I just give it to you so you can read it.
---MarkV. on 11/20/09


Rhonda ... the use of lots of BLOCK CAPITALISED UPPER CASE does make it much more difficult to read, and to my mind gives an impression of aggressiveness.

Pastor Jim used the UPPER CASE a lot, but I think he has listened to me and uses it much less now, & his posts seem much more friendly.
But as soon as he lessened his use of the UPPER CASE, you seemed to increase yours!
I do think that bold type and/or italics is better, and is certainly easier to read.
And of course, if you look at the "House Rules" at the head of the blogs, you will see no 3 which indicates some restriction on caps.
---alan8566_of_uk on 11/20/09


MarkV.

I put this info on your plate to look at and consider. I always end it with saying It is your decision. You may want to continue on the path you are on, or you may want to consider what I said and make changes. I'm not the judge.

It something people should look at and consider.
---Pastor_Jim on 11/20/09


Pastor Jim, I really like most of your answers everywhere and agree very much on most of them but here I believe you are mistaken. What I see you doing is, you want to convict us of sin by telling us what is sin. But you cannot convict a heart. Only the Holy Spirit can convict us of sin. That is why I send you to Romans 14. Here is how Paul ends the messege,
"Do you have faith? Have it to yourself before God. Happy is he who does not condemn himself in what he approves. But he who doubts is condemned if he eats, because he does not eat from faith, for whatever is not of faith is sin." I don't doubt my faith or question it. I do know God knows my heart.
---MarkV. on 11/20/09


Rhonda ... Did you notice I said "IS", not "is"?

Like you, I beleive the RCC gives Mary far too much prominence, and yes this is emphasiied by the statues of her with her baby.

But do you really think that RCs are so stupid as to think that Jesus remained a baby? What I meant was that they know He grew up and was crucified

There are as many crucifixes showing the death of an adult Jesus as there are of mother & child.

Do you keep photos of your children? I do, and they are now grown up! And I am reaching the age when I will be needing them to look after me, so I certainly know they are not babies any more
---alan8566_of_uk on 11/20/09


And I do not believe that the RCC thinks Jesus IS a baby
****

no of course you don't how foolish of me

majority of RCC buildings have pictures within their buildings (like stained glass windows etc) of a mother and child

those outside of RCC think it is Mary and "baby Jesus"

care to enlighten us who these pictures represent
---Rhonda on 11/19/09


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Pastor Jim, sorry that Romans 14 didn't make an impact on you, I thought it would.
You said, "It is not the OT sacrifies of the animal that was the theme in Sam15. But the taking of known Pagan Practices and appling them to worship God."

Jim the theme in Samuel 15 was disobedience. He rejected the Word of the Lord. Instead he obeyed the voice of the people.
Saul needed to see that his real worship was indicated by his behavior and not by his sacrifices. He demonstrated himself to be an idolater whose idol was himself. He had failed the conditions (v. 12:13-15) which would have brought blessings on the nation. His disobedience here was on the same level as witchcraft and idolatary, sins worthy of death.
---MarkV. on 11/19/09


sure feel free to use capitals believing you are "shouting" ...only highlights your EXTREME sensitivity to pagan day DEFENDING at all costs with lies and twisted reasoning

if I use bold italics or underline would you feel better and less sensitive?

you stand on RCC and HER holy xmas day

ANY reputable history resource will TELL you exactly what I wrote xmas ORIGINAL meaning was DEATH of Christ ...centuries later masses TOLD it is birth

SEEING xmas is NOT BIBLICAL one ONLY has history to look to for REAL meaning

day NOW called xmas DOES celebrate BIRTH of sun-god ...scripture is VOID of any celebration for birth of Gods SON
---Rhonda on 11/19/09


Then Alan, by your very logic.

There is nothing wrong in using the Pentagram, Satanic rituals/symbols, Wica Rituals, Sacrifices(Human/Animal) Sexual Rituals Acts, Drugs, as long as it is use to worhip Christ.

Just like Cain did!
---Pastor_Jim on 11/19/09


Rhonda,
Maybe some Christians do not celbrate Christs birth at Christmas time. maybe some don't celbrate it at all. Maybe the 25th December is the wrong date. Maybe the RCC hi-jacked a previous pagan festival.

BUT (and now I will SHOUT like you) CHRISTIANS (RCC Christians, Protestant Christians, Baptist Christians and non denom Christians) who celebrate CHRISTmas CELEBRATE JESUS'S BIRTH.

They do NOT celebrate some old pagan myth.

And whatever you like to believe, Christmas DOES NOT AND NEVER DID mean death of Christ.

And I do not believe that the RCC thinks Jesus IS a baby
---alan8566_of_uk on 11/19/09


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JackB.

The 3 wise men did not go to manger to celebrate the birth of Jesus. They saw Jesus when he was nearly 2 years old at their home, searching for the Messianic King, nothing else.

The passages you quote (out of context) from Paul. Are the arguements of that time, mainly how to unit the Jews and the Gentiles in one Church. It had to do with Dietary and Ritual laws of the Jews. It finally lead to the decree which states this: "abstain from THINGS POLLUTED WITH IDOLS, things Strangled and from blood of animals(Act15:20).

So Christ said: (JOHN 15:22) "If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not have sin, but now they have no excuse for their sin."

Now I told you! You decide/God will judge.
---PASTPR_JIM on 11/19/09


Where in the Bible does it say for us to use toilet paper instead of our right hand
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reasoning to ignore and ADD TO Gods Holy Word Malachi 2:16-17, Matt 4:4, Prov 30:6 by taking an abomination of heathen tradition MIXING Biblical Christ with adopted pagan tradition renamed as xmas

celebrate DEFEND xmas BY authority of RCC who TELLS EVERYONE to "christianize the suns-day" on THEIR authority

by ITS authority all who celebrate xmas in the WORLD (who LOVE the WORLD) SERVE RCC who adopted and christianized MANY LIES of this pagan day

Christ WARNED about mens traditions more important then Gods Laws Mark 7:6-9 True Christians CHOOSE to FOLLOW Gods Word by NOT mixing pagan worship into his ways
---Rhonda on 11/19/09


what holy scripture the wise men that brought gifts to Christ read that told them it was ok to bring Him gifts....
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wise men ...or as LIE goes 3 wise men 3 gifts to "baby Jesus" ALL LIES

scripture does not say how many came, or how many gifts - gifts were given when Christ was a CHILD - no infant is ever called a child

wise men or MAGI where PAGAN ...CUSTOM during that time was to bring gifts to a KING - SCRIPTURE and HISTORY both confirm ...besides ancient Israel had not adopted pagan practice of birthdays at time of Christ - simple DECEPTION from LOVING THE LIES instead of TRUTH

Christ is the FUTURE KING of Gods Kingdom on Earth - he is NOT a helpless baby in a manager as MOTHER RCC depicts Rev 17
---Rhonda on 11/19/09


Jack you have your answer from Pastor Jim's post

further on authority of RCC anyone can celebrate HER xmas

it is by this religious system that gives authority to "christianize" pagan heathen abominations

PER GODS WORD pagan abominations are NOT TO BE MIXED with HIM

celebrate pagan xmas no MAN has any scripture to make this "holy" and from The Father in Heaven

whether one writes xmas christ-mass (less the last "s" dropped centuries ago) the WORLD HATES CHRIST - THE WORLD celebrates the sun-gods birth on AUTHORITY of RCC NOT Biblical Christ

Christ gave examples to follow - pagan suns-day superimposed with the blaspheme of Christs HOLY NAME is not one of them
---Rhonda on 11/19/09


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Wayne ... " Learn not the way of the heathen, every heard this???" Yes we have heard this, so we do not do pagan things.

We celebrate the Birth of Christ. jjj

If you say that is a pagan thing to do, you are saying that Jesus is pagan, and that is blasphemy.
---alan8566_of_uk on 11/19/09


Pastor J ... yes ... you gavve some information from the word

You also gave a lot of false information, assumption and innuendo, and accusation of others.

No a very Christian thing to do.

At least you have stopped SHOUTING ... Thank you!
---alan8566_of_uk on 11/19/09


Pastor, sometimes you argue things to the point that they defy common sense.

One for you:: Where in the Bible does it say for us to use toilet paper instead of our right hand?

Do you really need to see where it is OK in the Bible to give praise to God on the day that His greatest gift to mankind was born. Doesnt the very thought of that bring joy into your heart naturally? Im sorry but I believe it should.

I wonder what holy scripture the wise men that brought gifts to Christ read that told them it was ok to bring Him gifts....
---JackB on 11/19/09


And being a pastor (as stated in your name anyways) Im sure you know the scriptures..

Col 2:14-17 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross,
And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Which are a shadow of things to come, but the body is of Christ.
---JackB on 11/19/09


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Does it matter???!!!! Its pagan no mater how you spell it and to partisipate in it is pagan. Learn not the way of the heathen, every heard this???
---wayne on 11/19/09


JackB,
Where does it say for you to celebrate Jesus Birthday? Show me where it says You shall keep this day holy etc. It commands us to remember his Death and Resurrection. Jesus was born in Early Sept or Late Aug. during the High Holy Days (Days of Awe) when according to the Jewish Traditions God has open the book of life. There are many particular Holy Days within this time frame. Yom Kippur is the annual Day of Judgment. Rosh Hashanah (New Years) Sukkot (Fest of Booths) are among the prime candidates, But there are other choices.

Alan, I will not throw pearls before swine (Im not calling you a swine by any means) I'm just saying I gave you the word and I have done my job as God servant. Im done!
---Pastor_Jim on 11/19/09


That being said Rhonda, what day do YOU celebrate the birth of Christ on?
---JackB on 11/19/09


Pastor J ... You said "ALAN SAID: "Secondly, what makes you think that you know how I celebrate the Birth of Christ?" I don't know! "

You don't know ... good ... so why did you earlier say: "you knowing apply these Pagan icons to worship God"

Then you say : "I just gave you the scriptual facts" Only scriptural facts? So what you said, for example on 11/16, comes from scripture?

And Rhonda ... you persist with your error about "mass" It has already been proven to you that this does not mean a celebration of death
---alan8566_of_uk on 11/19/09


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It is evident that there are not many on this blog whom have the discernment to be able to distinguish between Christmas, the celebration of Christ's birth: and worldliness, like a fake santy claus and whatever else the world imagines to substitute Christ's real historical birth. And rather than accept the truth of Christ's birth, they wrongly say Christians stole pagan celebrations when in fact the pagans stole Christian holy days and modified them to suit their own paganism. It has always been that way, first is the truth, then foolish humans come along and corrupt the truth into whatsoever they desire.
---Eloy on 11/19/09


Heb 7:26-28
For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens...maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore

How foolish professing christianity is today they IGNORE Gods Holy Word by taking the HOLY NAME of Christ and calling it "christ-mass" in his "honor" they WILLINGLY commit blaspheme by mocking him creating a new word by using HIS HOLY NAME

they cannot help themselves they are prisoner to the LIES LIES LIES about christ-mass as a "birth" and the MORE they CLING to the FATHER OF LIES they MORE they defiantly stand AGAINST biblical christ
---Rhonda on 11/18/09


Amen Pastor Jim and Francis

amazing how many "christians" are SO DECEIVED believing all DOCUMENTED lessons from ancient Israel are worthless words - because the LOVE the WORLD MORE THAN CHRIST

HONOR SERVE OBEY the system who gave them pagan day of xmas traditions of men - cherished MORE than Christ Mark 7:6-9

blinded truly believe they are "judged" from men unable to SEE God judges them because they DISMISSED Gods Word to FOLLOW pagan traditions God HATES and CONDEMNS

worshiping biblical Christ in vain with xmas by serving all lies associated with SUN

ONLY RCC on ITS authority "christianized" pagan things - Gods Word tells TRUE Christians to NOT mix heathen traditions with HIM
---Rhonda on 11/18/09


ALAN SAID: "Secondly, what makes you think that you know how I celebrate the Birth of Christ?"

I don't know! Nor am I your Judge. As I said before... it is between you and God.
I just gave you the scriptual facts. I did my job.

Your decide who your will follow God or a Pagan Roman Emperor. That is your personal choice, and Gods Judgement.
---Pastor_Jim on 11/18/09


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Pastor J

Firstly, I have not taken a holy Pagan day, since that does not exist ... it is a contradiction in terms.

Secondly, what makes you think that you know how I celebrate the Birth of Christ?
---alan8566_of_uk on 11/18/09


Alan, MarkV,

It is not the OT sacrifies of the animal that was the theme in Sam15. But the taking of known Pagan Practices and appling them to worship God.

Alan said I can find a pagan day for everyday of the year Thats true. The difference is when one takes a holy Pagan day and then apply Pagan rituals to honor God(knowingly), this is a sin. You both know the ritual Pagan icons (Yule/Tree/Bulbs/gifts/lights etc.)but you knowing apply these Pagan icons to worship God. Why would you not use Witchcraft, Sexual Immorality, Pentagram, to worship God as well. That's the lesson of Sam15. The Apostle Decree to the Gentiles(NT) "abstain from things polluted with idols, things Strangled and from blood of animals(Act15:20).
---PASTOR_JIM on 11/18/09


Deuteronomy 12:30 Take heed to thyself that thou be not snared by following them, after that they be destroyed from before thee, and that thou enquire not after their gods, saying, How did these nations serve their gods? even so will I do likewise.

Why would God give this command, and then accept any worship on or for or about christmas?
---Francis on 11/18/09


Mark Eaton ... You may celebrate "Happy Holidays" ar Christmas

I do not! And it is impertinent to tell me that I am.

And how can I worship the "goddess of the rising sun" at Easter, since that goddess does not exist?

As a matter of interest, and it is very pertinent to this discussion, I saw today, totally by chance, a game about "goddesses". And there was one on each day of our year.

So if we celebrated as you suggested on the Feast of the Tabernacles, there could be an objection to this, because it is the day of one of the old pagan godesses. That's by your faulty logic.
---alan8566_of_uk on 11/18/09


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I have a Hindu doctor who celebrates our Christmas day from the standpoint of their "god of lights". It fits nicely with our christmas lights and they give gifts(mainly pastries) to one another. They allow their kids to celebrate Santa along with the rest of our society on that day. Well, it is what it is. This country is spoiled and blind in a general sense. I pray for Gods mercy on us. With all of the moralistic/spiritual problems that we have I can't get too worked up on people celebrating Christmas as a taboo. At least it is a national day where our purchases have a heart felt intent towards Christ. Much money is spent during this season and we at least think about Christ at some level. Some are very sincere.
---jody on 11/18/09


Mark E, the same answer is to you. What you feel is sin you should not do. What I feel as sin, I should not do. You and I could see some things different. I believe as part of the body of Christ we should not judge another as Romans 14 tells us. "I know and am convinced by the Lord Jesus that there is nothing unclean of itself, but to him who considers anything to be unclean, to him it is unclean."
In the case of Pastor Jim, to him it is wrong to celebrate that day for Christ. He is convince in his conscience it is. If he was to celebrate it, he would sin, if he goes against conscience.
---MarkV. on 11/18/09


Mark E. 2 continue: In 1 Cor. 10:27, another example is given, differently "If any of those who do not believe invites you to dinner, and you desire to go, eat whatever is set before you asking no questions" Here there is nothing wrong with what is set before you if you don't ask. "But if anyone says to you, this was offered to idols, do not eat if for the sake of the one who told you, and for conscience sake" in the context, even if you are the quest of an unbeliever and don't want to offend him, it is better to offend the unbeliever and not eat for the sake of the weaker Christian who would be offended to eat. Since love to other believers is strongest witness we have (John 13:34,35).
---MarkV. on 11/18/09


Pastor Jim, I believe Christmas to you is sin, your conscience tells you. Romans speaks concerning the actions of others compared to our actions. Which in turn was an answer I gave Jerry concerning Saturday Sabbath, he honors and I don't. Romans chapter 14. Most of the chapter is about what to eat, but v.5 "One person esteems one day above another, another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind" In your case you are convince it is wrong, so to you it is wrong. To us it is not wrong, and I am conviced of it. "He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord. And he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it."
---MarkV. on 11/18/09


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Alan, MarkV:

I must agree with Pastor_Jim.

The "holy day" of Christmas must not be related to Jesus and His birth.

We would be better off accepting that Jesus was really born on the Feast of Tabernacles and celebrating it then. Changing Christmas to X-Mas or "Santa Day" would be better than what it has turned into, Happy Holidays!

Although, a wise old sage once told me that Christmas is the one opportunity we have to tell the entire world about Jesus without them slamming the door in your face.
---Mark_Eaton on 11/18/09


Pastor Jim, those people you speak of were under the Law. We are not under the law, we are under Grace. The Spirit of God dwells in us, directing us and moving us, convicting our conscience. Those people in the Old Testament were not endwelled. They were under complete Obedience, many times do or die. There is no comparison with them. When we make a decision our conscience guides us, if our conscience tells us something is wrong, even if it is not and we do it, it is sin. Because God judges us by our motives. That means we are going against Conscience that the Spirit guides.
---MarkV. on 11/18/09


This common abbreviation can carry a negative connotation, "Exing Out", exclude, exit, ex-wife, etc., and therefore ethically it should not be used. If the name "Christ"mas offends one, then that one should consider getting right with Christ.
---Eloy on 11/17/09


Barbara, Actually in Revelation 13:18 the X represents the antiChrist. In Greek, the mark of the Antichrist is, chi + xi + digamma= cxf.
---Eloy on 11/17/09


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Pastor J

The fact that you have now told me that some other people thousands of years ago celebrated the goddess of the rising sun (or maybe the magic centipede) at a particular time of the year does not have the slightest effect on what I celebrate at Easter or Christmas.

I know whom I worship, and so does Mark ... at all times of the year we worship God and Jesus, not one of your tin-pot gods or goddesses.

It matters not that some pagans on the same days worship or have worshipped or may have worshipped something else.

On which days do you worship? I would be able to dig up some pagan celebration on that day and tell you your worship is therefore invalid.
---alan8566_of_uk on 11/18/09


MarkV. (ltd to 125 words)

Saul put his righteousness above God. What he did seems right to us. That was when he decided used the Pagan Sacrificial Animals from his conquest and used them to worship God, he also spared Kings Agags life. This made God angry and Saul lost his Crown. Samuel then chops Agag to pieces (Sam15). It was Gods will, but we humans would not think it was right(PC world of today). Many more stories but 125ltd. So Alan was correct when he said he followed those days because he did no know UNTIL I TOLD HIM, so he didnt sin.

BUT>>>>

JOHN 15:22 If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not have sin, but now they have no excuse for their sin.
---PASTOR_JIM on 11/17/09


Pastor Jim, it is good to know where the dates came from for anyone who wants to know, and what they mean to those who worshipped in the beginning on the date of Christmas. I believe what you don't take into account when you say, it is bad to celebrate Christmas, is our conscience. The Spirit speaks to our conscience. And for those who believe Christmas is a sin, to them it is a sin. For if they go against conscience their motives are wrong, even if what they believed to be sin wasn't. Most of the Christians today believe that it is a day we can proclaim as a special day for the birth of Christ. Not of what it meant in history to someone else but what it means to us now. To our conscience it is right, so our motives are right.
---MarkV. on 11/17/09


Pastor J .... It may not be the correct date, but at Christmas, CHRISTIANS CELEBRATE THE BIRTH OF CHRIST

I know what I celebrate then, and it is absurd to accuse me of celbrating anything else

Similarly at Easter, I celebrate the Resurrection of Christ. Until you and Rhonda mentioned the goddess of the rising sun, I had never heard of her, so again HOW DARE YOU SAY I WORSHIP HER?.
---alan8566_of_uk on 11/17/09


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"Do not be too hard on your friends for writting X-mas, just tell them the meaning"
---kim on 11/16/09

Which is evil!
Since it is the most Holy Pagan Holiday! Dec. 25th celebrates the gods of light. The pagans added Jesus to this day since they heard he was a god of light. They would burn a Yule log all night as an effigy to the gods to stay. They also would bring in an Evergreen tree (a goddess)dress her with bulbs/lights for fertility. Jesus was born in early Sept during the High Holy days. (Now dub Jewish Holidays) Christmas was decreed holy by Pagan Roman Emperor Constantine. (Google that!)

Easter worships the goddess of the rising sun Ister. They have a "Sunrise Service" as she rises from the sea.
---PASTOR_JIM on 11/16/09


Do not be too hard on your friends for writting X-mas, just tell them the meaning, Google it. I do not write it that way, but studied it. Christains have forgotten the orgin of this Greek letter X meaning Massiah or the choosen one.
---kim on 11/16/09


Keep the CHRIST in Christmas!
it's the right thing to do!
You are proclaiming Christ's birth and using His name..Christ is the King!
Are you ashamed?
---lisa on 12/14/07


I think that no matter what's the origin of the letter "X" in Xmas, we Christians who have Christ in heart should not use it because hundred years ago, everyone knows about the root of the word "X", so it wasn't a problem, but now things have changed, and I know for sure that most people know the symbol "X" stands for crossing out or unknown variable more than the Greek letter X standing for Christ. Here is an analogy.
---butterflew on 12/14/07


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Here is an analogy. In some countries using the middle finger to point at people and stuff is fine, but what'd happen if we do that here? So it depends on when and in what situation the using of "Xmas" is appropriate. Hundreds year ago, it was fine, but now we Christians should not do that.
---butterflew on 12/14/07


Hello! I was just reading your post and I am no bible scholar, but I am taking a bible class at my college and we reciently discussed this. I don't know if "Xmas" is actually Greek in origin but "X" is greek X=Christ translated from greek to english...so what you were previously told was correct!
---Robin on 3/10/07


I whole heartedly agree with those of you who said we as christians should not use the "X" in place of Christ. These are truely anti-christ days we are living in, and I for one will say the name of Christ every chance I get. Thank you for your replys.
---Barbara on 12/6/05


I`ve heard the X argument, but if it was valid, the it should be Kmas as the X is the letter K in Greek.
Satanists and spiritualists often call us xristians, some form of alien life, because it denies who we serve, the Christ, the Risen Lord and saviour. So yes, it is wrong, and should be denied by all true believers.
---mike6553 on 12/6/05


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Regardless of its origins I think we should not write X instead of Christ. We are just going the world's way if we do this and leaving Christ out even if that is not our intention. The occasions when we can mention HIS name are becoming fewer and fewer so let us not remove it from our Christmas greetings.
---M.P. on 12/6/05


NO Xmas is not the same as Christmas Xmas your are leaving Christ out of the mas so to me its not the same I love my Christmas NOT theXmas
---Teresa on 12/5/05


I whole-heartedly agree. The shorthand thing is kind of flimsy in my opinion. I mean, it may be true, but I'm just wondering how much more energy it takes to write 5 more letters. On a normal dialy basis, what average person goes around writing the greek shorthand for any other word?
---Molly on 12/5/05


X in English means to cross OUT-so why would you use a greek word when writing in English; it gives a different connotation,& is snide suggestativeness & hence inappropriate for gracing an important Festive celebration celebrating the Birth of our saviour.
---Emcee on 12/5/05


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I don't think I have ever heard anyone say "Happy Xmas" they always say Christmas. But they write Xmas
So I think it is just a shorthand when writing, not a deliberate writing out of Christ
---alan8869_of_UK on 12/5/05


2. What I've always wondered is- why would a Christian even want to use "another term" for his name, be it greek origin or not. It's just as silly as if I were to suddenly tell my husband John that after 24 yrs, I wanted to start calling him Juan now. I don't know, that's just my opinion
---Molly on 12/5/05


The thing about X being the greek terminology for Christ is correct I believe. However, I highly doubt that most people who use it today do not intend the X in this way. I firmly believe it is used MOSTLY by people who want to remove him from Christmas. Now, in some schools, you can't even say the words "Merry Christmas" anymore- it's considered politically incorrect! They can say "Happy Holidays" instead.......
---Molly on 12/5/05


It is rude to Jesus. Do you call him Jesus X or Jesus Christ? You think it is neat to call our Savior "X". People have already taken Christ out everywhere, you can't even say his name in some stores. For to long he won't even have a name.
---Rebecca_D on 12/4/05


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Even though Xmas may be greek in origin, I think most people say Xmas as way of take Christ out of Christmas.
---Ulrika on 12/4/05


Rebecca: Who is it being rude to to use X instead of Christ? I think it's neat to see the variations in language to see that X means Christ in the Greek. I love to study language and learn about how other languages say the name of our Lord.
---Madison on 12/4/05


Personally, I find the use of the word, "Xmas" offensive. It indicates to me that either the person is in too much of a hurry to write out the word, "Christmas" or is ashamed even to have a dealing with the word, "Christ". While it may have Greek language orgins, it can also be an un-known quality in algerbra.
---WIVV on 12/4/05


I have read the other posts and even though I am not an expert on greek. I think it is rude using X instead of Christ.
---Rebecca_D on 12/4/05


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A cross is a sign of Christians, so +mas ... then became xmas? Some will say it has satanic origin, but it is probably just unthinking shorthand.
---alan8869_of_UK on 12/4/05


If one is using X-Mas instead of Christmas, then it is taking CHRIST out of Christmas. And that just can't be. Christ means "The Anointed" it is a greek translation of the Hebrew word rendered "Messiah". It is said when one takes Christ out of Christmas.

Moderator - You need to read the earlier posts.
---Rebecca_D on 12/3/05


means mother, {Mary the mother of Jesus} "Xmas"=Christ and Mother. What do you all know about this?
---Barbara on 12/3/05


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