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Tookie Williams To Be Executed

Should Tookie Williams be executed? He killed, was convicted of three murders, and faces death on Tuesday in California. Should he be pardon? If not, there could be another riot in L.A. Should he be pardon because if not, many might die? Your opinion

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If Tookie Williams is guilty of the crimes he has been convicted of, no matter if he repented or does positive things for Society, he still must answer for those crimes. He may have been nominated for The Nobel Peace Prize for his childrens books against Gangs ,but that means nothing,so was Joseph Stalin and Adolph Hitler. Every criminal says he isn't guilty. Some gullible people believe them when they are.Lawenforcement agents can't give in to mob pressure to avoid riots. The criminals would run the country.
---Darlene_1 on 1/5/08


I dont believe that he should have died. I dont believe that he was guilty. I am not one to believe everything the media or the judicial system lays out there. They can and have a tendency to be very corrupt and distorted.
---Chris on 12/12/06


Dottie, we would still be 'rewarding' these with free room and board, even in solitary. They become "jailhouse lawyers" by using the vast libraries some prisons have. Constant access to computers, high tech exercise rooms.
Again, this man showed NO remorse and was still in contact with other criminals 'outside.' Still running his agenda from behind bars.
---NVBarbara on 12/20/05


I don't believe in the death penalty, however, I don't think we should reward people who murder with free room and board. I think he should have received solitary confinement for the rest of his days.
---Dottie on 12/16/05


, execution saves the lives of the future victims of a murderer. so the death penalty is a mercy toward the innocent.
---steve on 12/16/05




Steve, it is possible for a person to have compassion for both the victim and the perpetrator of the crime. Ulrika, I hate abortion, murder and capital punishment in equal measure as do many, many Christians.
---M.A on 12/16/05


If only there was as much concerned for all the unborn and partialy born babies being killed each and every day.
---Ulrika on 12/15/05


, tookie founded the crips, was convicted of only three of who knows how many murders, never apologized for those murders, and so many would actually beg for him to be spared? have some compassion for his victims, please.
---steve on 12/15/05


The laws of the land are not perfect but we need a guide and protection against attacks on society. If the law of the land concerning abortion as you say, for example, does not line up with God's will, than we are not to exercise that man given right. I personally would find it hard to give the go ahead to execute a criminal of a Capitol crime, but that doesn't mean that it should not happen. People, especially the unsaved sometimes learn by no other means.
---David on 12/14/05


As I said before, I believe that God allowed this to happen for a reason that we would never understand with our thinking. In this world nothing is outside of Him. Williams did have time that the others never had. Abortion is wrong and as Christians we should lobby to get rid of it. But as John said, we have to have some kind of order. Otherwise no one is safe. Williams story is over and praise God nothing happened after. To Him the glory and the honor.
---Lupe2618 on 12/14/05




Lynn, Molesting a child is against the laws of the land. Is that evil? Without these laws there would be total chaos and you propably would not be here. I know what your thinking. What about the abortion laws and similar laws? We can lobby to get these laws changed. We live in an imperfect world and this is always going to be the way until Jesus comes back. Until then we need some control over the malfactors of society. Read what the apostile Paul says about us complying with the laws of the land.
---John on 12/14/05


Executing Tookie is definately NOT a sin. We have to have some control against the horrilble things that he did. When the death penalty is taken away, it sends a message to the criminal that he or she can actually get away with murder and live off the tax payers money for the rest of their lives. Not a bad deal for the criminal. If the death penalty were to be taken away the next victim could be your loved one! Execution of this type is NOT murder, it's justice, and I believe it's part of God's justice.
---Peter on 12/14/05


There is only one Biblical Judge God..Those who believe in the law of the land also believe in legal abortion.For you are only to follow the laws of the land if they are righteous. Murder is a sin,period.
---Lynn on 12/14/05


Yes Jaki I do. Its the same as free will. We make the choice to choose heaven or hell. He had a choice to be an upstanding citizen, but chose to be a killer instead.
The death penalty is the law of the land where he was,the bible says we are to go by that. I saw nowhere in any article that he had accepted the Lord. He even claimed to be mentally unstable when he wrote his books. ALL he would have had to do is show ANY remorse and he would have been granted clemency, his choice.
---NVBarbara on 12/14/05


Jaki as to what nvBarbara said, that is exactly what Jesus would have said. Good works do not Save or remove sin.
---Elder on 12/14/05


i thnk that every one deserves a second chance... jesus died so we can live again and still people like arnold swartsenegger alow the death penalty
---salim on 12/13/05


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4. No, he didn't have to apologize to anyone. He is responsible for himself before God and not to me. So my answer is no, he didn't have to do anything and that is what he did. I am but one opinion and have myself to be responsible for. He didn't have to live up to my expectations. He did what he wanted when he wanted, separated from God. It was said in court he bragged and joke about the sounds Lewis Owens made while dying. My thoughts were for Owens and the family that were murdered.
---Lupe2618a on 12/13/05


3. Furthermore, if the acts of free man are in themselves uncertain, God must then wait until the event has had its issure before making His plans. In trying to convert a soul, then He would be conceived of as working in the same manner that Napoleon is said to have gone into battle-with three or four plans in mind, so that if the first failed, He could fall back upon the second, and if that failed, then the third, and so on. A view which is altogether inconsistent with a true view of His nature.
---Lupe2618 on 12/13/05


2. I leave everything to God. For I believe He is in control of everything. If God didn't want this man to die, He could have stopped it. He could have put a thought in the mind of someone and the circumstances could have change. For nothing is outside of God. If the result had been that he was spared, I would except it because of that same reason. In life we make decisions but never outside of what God has ordained. He allows us to get in a mess and consequences follow. Some more hard then others.
---Lupe2618 on 12/13/05


First of all, I don't know if he was the murderer only God knows and him, but we have a system of justice just as God has one for us. He was found guilty and sentence. That is our system of law. God's system of law is for eternity in heaven or hell. I'm not for death but that is our system. In the old testament he would have been gone already not now after all this time in which he had time to find a way out through a loophole in the system. He never deprogram from the Cribs and refused.
---Lupe2618 on 12/13/05


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Lupe are you saying that he should have said sorry for something even if he hadn't done it? I have personally never apologized for something I havn't done. I've apologized on behalf of my children when they were small if they behaved badly but that doesn't even come close to apologising for causing someone's death if you havn't. I have no idea whether he was guilty or not of course.
---M.A. on 12/13/05


Do you think that is the answer that Lord Jesus would have given NVBarbara?
---Jaki on 12/13/05


Yes, he was given a lethel injection sometime after midnight this morning. He neither repented nor showed any remorse. He refused a last meal as well as any visits by a minister. We have supported him to the tune of $45,000 yearly since 1979. I hope this will not cause riots in LA, but it was time for him to pay his debt to society.
His children's books, and even Nobel Prize nominations while in jail do not excuse him.
---NVBarbara on 12/13/05


Williams was executed already this morning. I thought it was at midnight. Now we wait to see what happens. I hear there was no remorse at all. Peace to everyone.
---Lupe2618 on 12/13/05


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pkay,
Its not just about asking God for forgiveness, its about asking Him into your heart to be your Lord and Savior.
---cyndi on 12/13/05


Only thing I did not see was words from Williams repenting and asking for forgiveness. Even if innocent of crimes, at least he could have said something to the families that lost their sons. Just saying he was sorry it happened and that it was not him, but instead pride stopped him. I always said that pride is the one thing humans will not give up. I pray nothing terrible happens if he is executed at midnight. There is much evil ready to take advantage of the scene. Please pray for everyone.
---Lupe2618 on 12/13/05


If Tookie is telling the truth about his new-found relationship with the Lord, then why be concerned? He will be in good hands when they extinguish him.

The death penalty is something that is earned; not given freely to those that obey the laws of the law and respect the rights of others to live in peace.
---lee on 12/12/05


i agree with MA,but consider this,heaven will be populated with repented felones and all sorts of sinners.i think people have to really think about how they will cope with eternity standing next to all sorts of people they look down on and condemn on earth.like jesus said,he that has never sinned should cast the first stone(of death)
---ade on 12/12/05


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pkay Yes without a doubt.
---alan8869_of_UK on 12/12/05


Yes pkay I do believe that. If I didn't there would be no hope whatsoever for any of us.
---M.P. on 12/12/05


My sympathies to the family o f the victims. I ve a question though.Does anyone here believe that if this man genuinely repented of his sins Christ would welcome him with open hands after he is executed?
---pkay on 12/12/05


Court or Arnold will not stay the execution of Tookie. Its a matter of Justice. My feelings are for the victims, and his family, he choose to murder, his blood must be spilled. Those who can forgive him are no longer on this earth. Redemption is the Lords. We are responsible for justice.(My only worry is there may be violence, I live near L.A.-pray for peace!)
---len_k on 12/12/05


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If he repented or not, or if he is saved or not, or if he is a certain race or not, is not relevant to this question. He is just paying the price for breaking the laws of the land.
---John on 12/11/05


The Old Testament says that people who commit adultery should be killed also but no-one clamours for the death penalty for that these days. The world would not have a population crisis if we did.
---M.A. on 12/11/05


I pray Tookie Williams has repented of his sins and received Jesus as Savior and Lord. Consequences: Romans 6:23.
---Leon on 12/11/05


I understand the comment about it being cruel to make a man stay in prison for 40 years and then execute him. Is it cruel for the family members of the persons this man killed, to go a life time without the deceased in their lives?
---Toma on 12/11/05


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Genesis 9:6 Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.
Exodus 21:12 He that smiteth a man, so that he die, shall be surely put to death. Matthew 26:52 Then asid Jesus unto him, Put up apain thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.
---Ulrika on 12/11/05


I had never heard of Tookie Williams until I read this question and your answers. Here in U.K. being locked away from society is the punishment, the length depending on the crime. It is always hoped that the person coming out will be better than the one that went in (sadly not always the case though). If death has to be the punishment then why not do it quickly. To be locked up for 40 years and still await execution is not justice or punishment it is absolutely CRUEL, to him and his family.
---M.P. on 12/11/05


"Tookie" ... death or not? I don't think I personally could ever give the death penalty to anyone even tho I feel that person should die. Tookie says he's not guilty, I don't know, it's possible. I saw the book he's written for children teaching them not to follow in his footsteps. At least he hasn't wasted his time and if he continues to write these books, well, that's a plus for him to live. Let God deal with him when it's time.
---Nellah on 12/11/05


Yes, he should pay the Utimate Price. Some think he has shown remorse, but how can you show remorse when you are not even honest with yourself. He has said I AM NOT GUITY. That is NOT REMORSE
---Jim on 12/10/05


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yes he should be executed, I believe he has remorse over his crimes and has repented, however he should have to pay for his crime here on earth by our laws. God will choose what happens to him in the afterlife, not man.
---Carolyn on 12/10/05


I believe Tookie should pay for his crimes. I live in CA, and I am afraid of riots, but we cannot let fear stop punishment. I would feel better if I thought Tookie knew Jesus.
---Jackie on 12/10/05


i dont think he should be executed.this is back in the 70's when he was accused of killing 4 men, but we should also keep in mind that this was the time of racism.how do we know for a fact that he killed those men and not a victim of racial profiling? i do believe that he should be pardon. he who had created a big mess will be the only one that can clean it.
---jeoffrey on 12/10/05


Repentance would not do away with the punishment due--Adam was forgiven, still outside the garden, under the sentence of death. We are not to pervert justice, to make decisions just because others may riot, or kill people. If he is worthy of death, then the law must carry it out and then deal with any other criminals that may destroy property or life. Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of men is fully set in them to do evil.
---Wayne87 on 12/10/05


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"Tookie" Williams has served 1 half of his life paying for the crime he commited, and obviously is re-habilitated. Mr. Williams, by the books on Anti-Gang Life and Anti-Crime, has influenced alot of our young community in avoiding the Lifestyle of Gangs. He deserves a second chance more than the Kidnapper's, Child molesters and Crime/Drug Boss's who's product have taken ten times as many lives, that serve there sentence and get a second chance and sometimes third.
---Michael on 12/10/05


My knowledge of Tookie Williams is limited to what has been heard/seen from the media. But, based on just this element, I'd say execute him. Not to execute him because of a fear of riots would be in contridiction to the policy of the USA concerning terriost - and that's what a rioter in this case would be.
---WIVV on 12/10/05


I think we seem to be missing the point. To me the issue shouldn't be whether he should be executed or not but where will he go when he dies. I hope he uses the remaining few days to mend his ways and connect with his Lord. Despite all his crimes Christs outstretched arms are there for him.
---pkay on 12/10/05


I live in Ca. Justice screams out from the grave to be done. The only people who can forgive Tookie are not on this earth.
---len_k on 12/10/05


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