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Is Mary Full Of Grace

Does the bible call Mary. "Full of Grace" any
where?

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Ruben: I'm refering to the larger organized religions of the world and not small nondenominational groups. Remember, Jesus said, where two or three are gathered in my name...Matthew 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
---Chipper on 8/1/07


Chipper:: Your conception of Masses of people is different than that of The saviour who said "Come to me ALL who are laboured, burdened, I will refresh you"Is that your concept of the masses of people.Catholic=Universal,it has nothing to do with Roads.Jesus idea OF ALL is everyone those who want to seek Him HIS WAY.HIS invitation to heaven is for allbut few will find it as they want salvation their way not His way look around you, see the ideoligies but the Rcc is one universal-HIS way.
---Emcee on 7/31/07


Chirper::You are a bible scholar with a transalation of Gen3:15 of your own which will lead you to the position you will eventually be at."his seed"May you remember it when it happens.I do not wish you evilbut you are doing fine all by yourself."May his blood be upon us & upon our children"
---Emcee on 7/31/07


The name Mariam itself means rebellion and murmuring. When the Israelites complained in the wilderness wanting water and Egyptian food, it was called the waters of "meribah". They provoked God to judgment so that their carcases lay waste in the wilderness and they did not enter into his promised land, except for the young.
---Eloy on 7/31/07


Chipper. The Bible says the number of redeemed people is inumerable, as the sand of the sea. Ten thousand times ten thousand and thousands of thousands. The verse you quote about the narrow and broad roads do not say heaven or hell, they say life or destruction. Jesus came to give abundant life to those who believe and few people are finding that but most are finding destructive, popular ways of the world. The fact that the RC church is large has no bearing on whether they are right or wrong.
---john on 7/31/07




Chipper-It's the broad way that leads to destruction. Think about it Emcee. The catholic church is one of the largest in the world.


So if I join John Doe church down the street which has maybe 40 to 50 people, I am going to heaven.
---Ruben on 7/31/07


Mary was treated graciously by God. But was told by the angel that she was blessed among women. It was Jesus who was full of grace.
---jody on 7/31/07


Emcee and other C's and RCC's:
Jesus never said it would be the masses that would be coming to Him. In fact He said just the opposite in Matthew 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Proportionately speaking, there is only going to be a faithful few that will make it.
It's the broad way that leads to destruction. Think about it Emcee. The catholic church is one of the largest in the world.
---Chipper on 7/31/07


Emcee and other C's and RCC's:

The RCC is full of idolatry and lies.

Revelation 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

Jesus Christ can set you free from that bondage, fear, and intimidation.
---Chipper on 7/31/07


all generations will call her Blessed!
Therefore she is and always will be known as the Blessed Mother of our Lord, Jesus Christ!
Being perfect, Jesus followed all the commandments ,which included Honoring His Mother. Mary is not nothing, she has a huge place in the history of Jesus the salvation of the world!
---Lisa on 7/31/07




Emcee and other C's and RCC's:
Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed, it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
"and her seed" as in many offspring ... meaning "the true church".
verse 16, in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children,
Have you ever noticed how few people are actually coming to the truth of the Bible.
The true church of Christ is not birthing many these days.
---Chipper on 7/31/07


Mary is not full of anything. She is dead.
---Helen_5378 on 7/31/07


Former Catholic, I could not have said it any better. There is much attention to Mary in the Catholic Church. It's really a dead religion that lies to their own people. I know, I also was a Catholic and active in the church until the Holy Spirit revealed the real Jesus to my soul. I have not been the same since. Now I have a true purpose in life and when I look back I can see the growth that God has done in me through Jesus. God bless.
---Rick on 7/31/07


Frm Catholic::" she would agree if she could" SHE DOES- inspite of the opposition of apostates, satan & his cohorts, those who volunteer & those employed.She continues to point the way to her saviour the door to salvation.He is the narrow door & few there are who will find it ,as seen from the opposition to her on these posts on numerous blogs.Her ship braves the seas of your wrath.Holy Mary Mother of God Pray for us Sinners NOW & at the hour of our death.AMEN.
---Emcee on 7/30/07


Chipper:: Reminder Gen3:15Action of Almighty God :it is through Mary that we get Jesus, God decreed this.He also said I will separate(put enmity) between her seed & your seed.therefore He joins Mary & Jesus for the BEHEFIT of Humanity--was satan happy with this?" & the following "she shall crush your head & you will lie in wait for her heel" which part of this prophecy applies to you & me? Any constructive Rebuttal.
---Emcee on 7/30/07


What does Mary full of grace have to do with anyone's salvation or walk with God. Mary has passed on. Time is short. Get your focus off of Mary (she would agree if she could), and on to Christ. He is the "Door".
---former_Catholic on 7/30/07


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Hebrews 7:25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.

WOW!..... did you see that??? .... "BY HIM" ... not by Mary.

It sure doesn't say that "Mary ever lives" to make intercession for us.
---Chipper on 7/30/07


Absolutely Emcee, and that goes for you as well.

Come out from her my people!!!
---Chipper on 6/22/07


Chipper :: while you are in the process of cleaning house do not throw the baby out with the Bath water.It has been known to happen.The penalty is death.
---Emcee on 6/19/07


Twilight:
We will continue to "knock down" any and all false doctrines and cults.
Jesus was not tolerant of falsehoods and lies and neither should we be.
There are many false doctrines and antichrists in the world today and the true Holy Spirit filled christian has a duty to stand against them.
---Chipper on 6/19/07


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Twilight:
Jesus called the Pharisees a bunch of snakes and vipers and told them they were of their father, the devil.
Was this "un-christian-like"?
---Chipper on 6/18/07


Twilight, if you would read the Bible you would know why Christians want to reveal the things that go against the word of God. If you were a Christian you wouldn't call scriptural responses and an attempt to reveal heresy "crapolla." You might even think about those who may be reading and trying to decide if Catholicism is real Christianity. Maybe those who wish to be saved and want to know the truth.
Frank3443
---Frank on 6/13/07


I'm Luthuran and you people who continually knock down the Catholic faith is soooo un-christian it's pathetic with your crappola about popes being gentiles and the rest of your crap like Mary is dead, people are going to hell because they pray to Mary. What a pile of garbage!!! talk about the anti-church.
---twilight on 6/13/07


Helen::By your statement it will apppear that you are infallible & omnipotent,& thus in a position to access without question. Your statement,however goes both ways. As I have also noticed your reactions,but give you the BOD.To err is human.Bashing is a word of action displayed for one purpose to denigrate, would you agree?
---Emcee on 6/12/07


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Helen ... Yes it is about how people react to this kined of question.
Sadly the first response is no longer shown, but my recollection is that it was an anti-Catholic attack, and I bekleive that was the motive for the question being asked in the first place.
---alan_of_UK on 6/12/07


AlanofUK - Don't you think also that it is the way people react to these type of questions? I have found time and time again that when the truth is portrayed it is called down as bashing. People don't like the truth being told because it highlights their own errors.
---Helen_5378 on 6/12/07


Alan of Uk ::Nothing wrong about finger pointing. My reply was a FACT nothing else.Her intent was however suspicious & incriminating in consistent with the other statements made.My reply was to the second part of her statement.
---Emcee on 6/12/07


Emcee To be fair to Helen, what she said was "What is wrong is pointing an accusing finger at another"
And she is quite right.
She did not ask "What is wrong with pointing an accusing finger at another?"
But we have to realise that so many questions like the one which started this blog, whilst ostensibly just asking questions, seem to be intended to get those fingers pointing.
---alan_of_UK on 6/12/07


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Helen you say "What is wrong is pointing an accusing finger at another"
Why then did you not leap to the defence of Emcee when someone unjustly pointed a finger at him and called him a troublemeker?
He was only answering the question, as Mima had hoped he would.
Whther Mima wanted to cause trouble or not, certainly his question has given yet another opportunity for anti-Catholic tirades
---alan_of_UK on 6/11/07


Helen:: Because by Pointing a finger at another you forget the 3pointing right back at You "Matt7:1-4
---Emcee on 6/11/07


The question "Was Mary full of Grace" the answer is simple YESor NO It is the Naysayers who make all the Noise& opposition.If the question is too hard to answer People not concerned should back off Or else The question should be withdrawn Because the questioner's intent was Malice,with intentent to denigrate.
---Emcee on 6/11/07


AlanofUK - There is nothing wrong at all with Christians asking questions as Mima does, especially when they get one thinking. What is wrong is pointing an accusing finger at another.
---Helen_5378 on 6/11/07


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Alan of UK::Thank you my Friend The Truth will set the record straight.A friend in need----Thats you
---Emcee on 6/11/07


There was another Man in History who washed his hands because he could not Face the truth,& do the right Thing.My Hands are clean & need no washing.
---Emcee on 6/11/07


If mima is a trouble maker then so was Jesus. Mima, only presents questions, and challanges your walk with God. Didn't Jesus do the very same thing there, Alan Of UK?
When people are ignorant and persistant about their false beliefs and hatred of the truth, it always stirs up a hornet's nest. You can always tell a true Christian by their fruits, and you can always spot a lost person by their fruits, as well.
Take the ChristiaNet Mary quiz.
---Nate on 6/11/07


The question is, who is Mary to you? Most Catholics worship her, and disregard what Jesus told us to do. This is why I am no longer a Catholic. I found out that the Big promonant Catholic Church is NOT the answer. Who are they to make up the rules? Most Catholics fear the Catholic Church more than God Himself. Alan, I have no respect for you as a Christian. You fear the Truth. Sad.
---Rebecca on 6/11/07


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The trouble maker is the one who posted the original question, and many others like it.
---alan_of_UK on 6/11/07


Emcee why are you hung up on this foolish discussion? You are the trouble maker. Surely you worship Mary, or you would not make a big deal over it. John is spot on, and I believe is walking in the Spirit of God. You have a false spirit.

Jesus is Lord!
---Marie on 6/10/07


Get off of Mary and concentrate on Jesus.
---Ralph on 6/10/07


emcee. Looks like Mary is your god. You need to learn what a Christian is. I know one thing for sure. You are not one. no matter how much you try and convince others. You have no love. I have read your reply's, and you have no love. You need Jesus, and only Him. I hope you find the truth, I really do.
---Ellen on 6/10/07


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For those of you who invested in Mary with your time and efforts, your account went bust. You are spiritually bankrupt. You need to put away the idols and serve the living and true God. Time is short, and there is work to do for God through Christ.
---Martin on 6/10/07


What is this fasination with Mary? Did Jesus or the Apostles preach Mary? It's TIME for real Christians to speak up for the truth. Jesus or Mary. You can't worship both and be a Christian. Yes, if you lift her up higher than she should be, you are worshiping her.
---Mary_G. on 6/10/07


Nice TRY John::But the blog desires an answer on this topic.Feel free to join if you so desire but Don't skip over it,or sweep it under the mat.If you dont agreee explain why!.
---Emcee on 6/9/07


What does Mary have to do with anything? Let's not get HUNG up on anything thing but God. If your off focus on Him, you hit a snag in your spiritual walk.
---John on 6/9/07


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Ashley::That is your opinion against Gods word IN Genesis 3:15- I choose Gods word.
---Emcee on 6/9/07


Ashley:: You are totally off Base .JESUS Christ IS God & 2nd person of the Blessed Trinity To say God created Another God Jesus it shows your Beliefs are all out of whack if you will pardon the expression.He Created A&E & Mary,that is why she Mary calls HIM MY SAVIOUReven before she was BORN.Gen3:15
---Emcee on 6/9/07


Ha, Ha, Ha,ashley you smart. Actually, Adam and Eve our first parents.
---catherine on 6/9/07


Mary was and always will be a direct descendent of Adam and Eve. Eight people survived the flood thanks to Noah's faith. To say Mary was not a descendant means she is also a God like Jesus Christ, created by the Father, but Mary had a human mother and father. there is no mention that she or Elizabeth were special, even though Elizabeth gave birth to John the baptist. where do people keep coming up with these whoppers they keep passing off as truth.
---ashley on 6/8/07


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Frank:: Jesus taught By example & said I'll show the way Follow.He was the High Priest.Did He get Married??The RCC follows that example in its teachings to her priests.This is not denying a human their rights as you so describe.A priest understands the undetaking of His office.If some fall by the way side, it does not meanthe RCCOr Christianity is at Fault.Look around even married pastors Fall of all denominations.
---Emcee on 6/7/07


Cathrine::As I said before She was & cannot be full of Grace IF SHE was a daughter of Eve.Mary was a creation of God & that is why she was full of Grace.Gen3:15The Angel of the LORD attests to that in Luke 1.27-35
---Emcee on 6/7/07


"You have found favor with God". Never was any daughter of Eve so dignified as the Virgin Mary and yet in danger of falling under the imputation of one of the worst of crimes.
---catherine on 6/7/07


Frank Offering you scripture for Priests celibacy is not what you seek Be honest If you are trying to find fault You will continue to do so as you do not understand & your mind is set.Scripture has not changed your& the minds of othere who are comfortable in the life style you have chosen.FREE choice is whAT REALLY UNNERVES YOU & MANY OTHERS .
---Emcee on 6/6/07


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My, how words get twisted here! For one, I was referring to the church commanding celibate priests and not the word of God. It is wrong to command men to go against nature. Two, I said I do not use other books. The apostles used the word of God and that is good enough. When you twist words you merely show an inability to counter BY THE SCRIPTURES. That, is no where near profitable.
Frank
---Frank on 6/7/07


It is sad that you people will exhaust every measure to back something as foolish as the church commanding a priest to remain unmarried except using scripture to prove me wrong. If you esteem the church above the word that is blasphemy and I want no part of it. Since I am waiting in vain for a scriptural response to back you views and receiving your own thoughts I'l make you happy and leave. Serve your god joyfully now.
Frank
---Frank on 6/7/07


emcee, I am being serious when I say, Who is Mary, for I bring God's judgment upon all idolaters. You should rightly direct your concerns with God, rather than any sinuous vessels of clay. As I have said before, there is only one Salvation for all mankind, and it is NOT a Mary, a Peter, a Paul, a Sally, a Jesse, a Raphalie, no Joseph Smith, no Buddha, no Krishna, no Allah, no angel, no minister, no prophet, no healer, nor any other creature, but Salavtion is only Jesus Christ and him alone.
---Eloy on 6/6/07


lorra: 1 Cor. 7, did you miss verse 2 it says: "Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband. Notice EVERY. where does celibacy come into play. if you read 32 and 33, everyone in the world should live celibate lives if taken literally. without a wife or husband, fornication and adultery run wild. Everyone should marry including priests. look at the number of priests that commit fornication and adultery with nuns or others.
---ashley on 6/6/07


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Frank, priestly celibacy is a Church ordinance, not demanded by Christ but offered by the Church. The early did allow for married clergy, but Paul himself set the example and paved the way for a celibate clergy. 1 Corinthians 7, note especially verses 6, and 32-35. No one has to be a priest or nun or monk or celibate single (not just priests are celibate in the RCC) in order to be a Catholic. Jesus remained single and gave up His life for us, it is beautiful that some wish to follow in His footsteps.
---lorra8574 on 6/6/07


Frank, if you're going to be reading Foxes Book of Martyrs you had just as well been reading Little Red Ridinghood. From the Jewish side of life, let me assure you that Protestants were not pure as snow. Martin Luther wanted the Jews property stolen, then killed. Let's have a medieval holocaust. The Protestants had standing armies that killed both Jews and Catholics. Let's face it, life was cheap and Christian's hands were washed in blood. Where was the love of the Messiah?
---Rabbi on 6/6/07


Frank I couldn't help but catch your post "Going to secular books just leads to more confusion. TV evangelists have a bookcase full of books behind them (which the disciples didn't) and many teach and preach hersey and blasphemy. I'l stay with the word of God.
Frank there were no books in the time of the disciples. If all we need is the KJV why does the Bible say that the "Church is the pillar and foundation of truth" and not the Bible I just don't understand why.
---Johannes on 6/6/07


Frank I am not talking about Fox's Book of martyrs I am talking about the early Church Fathers.
---Terry on 6/6/07


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Emcee, I was going to leave this area alone but since you mention it, it is in response to Priests being celibate. I believe that marriage is forbidden to them. I was showing how foolish and non-scriptural this command is. And, you still have not disputed it with scripture.
Frank
---Frank on 6/6/07


Emcee, please do not put words in my mouth nor try to make it look as though I am trying to do anything that I am not. I am not attempting to be o so right. We don't need accusations and strife here while attempting to show scripture to settle some points. You have a good day. And God bless you anyway.
Frank
---Frank on 6/6/07


Eloy::Dont be coy!as you are more wily than that.But you will soon find out son when answering the Charge.Sometimes silence is Golden. Treat this as advice in all sincerity.
---Emcee on 6/6/07


Who is Mary?
---Eloy on 6/5/07


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Frank:: In your endeavour Of so wanting to be Right You grasp at any straw & ask for scripture WHY?what has Peter& Pauls Status got to do with Celibacy these were Grown Adult men whon Jesus took & made them Fishers of Men Where on earth did the celibacy question enter are you questioning Gods Choice of selection.Shame You look for Proof on such petty & things that hare no bearing on the subject.Celibacy is an individual choice if you can understand that.
---Emcee on 6/5/07


Terry, I have read the book of martyrs as well as the book on Mennonite martyrs. I don't use them as I only use the King James Bible and trust in the Holy Ghost. Going to secular books just leads to more confusion. TV evangelists have a bookcase full of books behind them (which the disciples didn't) and many teach and preach hersey and blasphemy. I'l stay with the word of God.
Frank
---Frank on 6/5/07


Frank-Mary was blessed to give birth to the Son of God but is listed in Acts 1 as being in the upper room and receiving the baptism of the Holy Ghost. That alone disproves the full of grace teaching. She said all shall call her blessed among women.

Two things about this, how does being in the upper romm disaproves "Full of Grace". second Mary did not say she was bless among woman, Elizabeth did. Mary said "For, Behold, from Henceforth all generations shall call me blessed."
---Ruben on 6/5/07


Twilight:
Regarding the verse you quoted: And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; etc.

Jesus was talking about the 12 disciples whom God gave Him so that the gospel wouold be proclaimed through them.

John 17:6 I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word.

They were "men" and they kept Gods word.
---Chipper on 6/5/07


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Frank the early Church Fathers for the most part were men of VERY low estate who devoted there lives to Christ and his Church you should read about there lives, The Martyrdom Polycarp ect.
---Terry on 6/5/07


And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
---Twilight on 6/5/07


Terry, my wording I will admit was poor but I am referring to things that the Spirit of God reveal to those who have the baptism of the Holy Ghost. Not just man's doctrine passed down from generation to generation. And because of that many little known men of low estate may have more insight revealed to them than those who blindly follow or have founded a doctrine. Not that they know more but what the Spirit reveals.
Frank
---Frank on 6/5/07


Twilight, Acts 9:32, Romans 1:7, 8:27, 12:13, 15:25, 1 Corinthians 1:2, 16:1, 2 Corinthians 8:4, and 9:1 all bear witness that the saints of God are church members and do not have to acquire sainthood by the approval of a Pope. Mary and all of the souls of just men made perfect are full of grace as you said. In that I won't disagree. I do disagree with Mary being full of grace beyond the saints though.
Frank
---Frank on 6/5/07


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Emcee, I am not a total jerk. I do see the point you are trying to make with a special woman having to be used. However, with an 85 word limit I will have to post my response on my next days off work. It is going to take far too many entries to explain this than one morning permits. Not to mention, keeping them in order as I hate confusion. Having said that, I agree with one aspect but feel you shortchange yourself with your beliefs and blasphemy with others. I'l explain in full as time permits.
Frank
---Frank on 6/5/07


Emcee, Should it be too much trouble to post here because of word limitations I may post on Genesis 3:15 on my blog site and forward the address so you can read it and post back. It will probably be rather lengthly going through that whole scripture line upon line and precept upon precept. While some of it may be in agreement on one ascpect some of the rest will point out where that scripture glorifies Christ beyond Mary and goes against Catholic doctrine.
Frank
---Frank on 6/5/07


Frank::I explained this many times.Go to Genesis 3:15 & ask yourself these questions.1 What was Gods plan in creating Mankind.2who disrupted & how did he God counteract3 who was that woman HE created in answer to Satans action;As His creation He God does not create sin so Mary or the woman was saved By her Saviour even before she was Born & protected for all times from Satan by separation -Enmity.The Rest is HISTORY.If you are honest your quest is success.
---Emcee on 6/4/07


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