kathr4453: "They were in Abraham's bosom,..."
Abraham is dead and buried. He is dust in which everyone is destined. There isn't a bosom to go to. And he won't be resurrected until Jesus returns. |
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---Steveng on 3/5/09 |
I would also like to add that I believe that Adam and Eve entered heaven at the time of their death. The animal skin coverings that the Lord cothed them in (Gen 3:21) was a shadow of the white robes of righteousness given to God's children upon death (Rev. 7:9).
Adam and Eve entered heaven leagally based upon the Everlasting Covenant between God and Christ (Heb. 13:20).
---trey on 10/17/07
Actually Trey the way into the Holy of Holies had not yet been opened until Jesus Died on a cross. They were in Abraham's bosom, |
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---kathr4453 on 3/4/09 |
I would think that since God flooded the entire earth except for Noah that they went into the sea. Revelation speaks about the sea giving up its dead for The Great White Throne Judgement. |
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---t on 3/4/09 |
The Bible reads that in their sin they hid from God, and for their disobedience they were thrown out of the Paradise of God. And after 235 years from Adams creation, "then began men to call upon the name of YHWH". Genesis 4:26. "Since indeed through human that death, indeed through human the resurrection of dead. As then with that Adam all die, so also with that Christ all will be made alive. So also written, The first man Adam engendered into living life, the last Adam in life-making Spirit. The first man out of earth, of soil, the second man the Lord, out of heaven. Such of the soil, they also such like of soil: and such of the heaven, they also such like of heaven." I Corinthians 15:21,22+ 45,47,48. |
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---Eloy on 3/4/09 |
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If Adam and Eve are in heaven, where are the other godly people? Are they in heaven, too? God forbid you are calling Jesus a liar for he said no one has acsended into heaven. All the godly people in the bible are still in their graves sleeping until the resurrection. Isn't David still in his grave? Who are the dead in Christ that will soon to rise at the first resurrection if godly people go directly to heaven after death?
Do an online bible search for "sleep" to find the answers you seek. |
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---Steveng on 3/3/09 |
Why isn't scripture being used to prove some of these speculations. It helps if scripture is quoted. |
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---Kenny_Plummer on 3/3/09 |
Well Jimbo, if they hadn't done what they did, there would be no mankind! They and their children would still be in the Garden! |
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---NVBarbara on 11/14/08 |
No, I don't believe that Adam and Eve went to heaven when they died. I do believe that they will be back in heaven when the time comes.I believe this from my readings of the Bible and other inspired writings. P. |
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---Pierre on 10/18/07 |
I would also like to add that I believe that Adam and Eve entered heaven at the time of their death. The animal skin coverings that the Lord cothed them in (Gen 3:21) was a shadow of the white robes of righteousness given to God's children upon death (Rev. 7:9).
Adam and Eve entered heaven leagally based upon the Everlasting Covenant between God and Christ (Heb. 13:20). |
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---trey on 10/17/07 |
#1 gina, if Christ went to heaven on the day of his crucifixion then He was lying when he made these two statements:
...for just as JONAH WAS THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS IN THE BELLY OF THE SEA MONSTER, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Jesus *said to her, "Stop clinging to Me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father, but go to My brethren and say to them, 'I ascend to My Father and your Father, and My God and your God.' " |
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---Ryan_Z on 10/17/07 |
gina, AMEN!
The scriptures say in the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established. You quoted the first, Luke 23:43. The second witness is Luke 23:46 "And when Jesus cried with a loud voice, he said, Father into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost."
May the Lord bless you. |
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---trey on 10/17/07 |
#2 gina, And Paul was lying when he said this:
(Now this "He ascended," what does it mean except that He also had descended into the lower parts of the earth?
He who descended is Himself also He who ascended far above all the heavens, so that He might fill all things.)
So what you have quoted is a misinterpretation of scripture or the word of God is fallable, which is it? |
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---Ryan_Z on 10/17/07 |
gina, are you suggesting that Christ went to heaven on the day of His death on the cross? |
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---Ryan_Z on 10/17/07 |
"TODAY YOU WILL BE WITH ME IN PARADISE"
(Luke 23:43)
this is biblical proof that, if saved, you will be immediately in heaven with Jesus. No man can go before THE FATHER except through Jesus. All go before God. It is only when you are covered by the blood of Christ do you go before and can call God "Father". When you die you immediately go to heaven. There is no purgatory, waiting place. Read Revelation again and also 1 Thessalonians 4:13-16 |
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---gina on 10/17/07 |
Jimbo, that's a hoot. It's too late to give them a copy of "Garden of Eden for dummies". If they couldn't obey God in the cool of the garden, a manual wouldn't have helped them. I suppose they've had time to rethink things. Do you think they'll apologize? Or will they be the "Bickersons" all over again, "It was that wife you gave me!" |
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---Observee on 5/31/07 |
Gordan; If the dead in Christ shall rise first, then how are they in heaven now? They are not going to come down from heaven and meet the ones remaining in the air along with Jesus. That isn't what the bible teaches. Jn 5:28-29, 1 Th 4:16-17. The bible tells us that there is no one in heaven but God, Jesus and the angels. |
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---Rebecca_D on 5/31/07 |
this is like flogging a dead horse. NO ONE enters God's kingdom until AFTER the resurrection and judgment. the righteous go to paradise, which is NOT the kingdom of God. what part of that do people not understand. I can see why many are confused because if you could see what paradise is like, you would kill yourself to get there. |
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---ashley on 5/31/07 |
If anyone deserves to be in God's kingdom it is Adam and Eve. They walked and talked with God daily in person. Their only mistake was eating the fruit and introducing death into the world. Cain introduced evil into the world when he slew Abel. He then married Abels daughter and deceived many into following the lies of satan. If it weren't for Adams trangression, NO ONE on earth would be alive today because Adam and Eve would have lived in the garden forever. read Genesis. |
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---ashley on 5/31/07 |
The Apostle Paul declares in the HOLY BIBLE that to be absent from the body is to be present with The LORD. The "dead" are most certainly with The LORD in Heaven. Their souls are not in some limbo state waiting to be resurrected, they are already in Heaven. Their bodies will be resurrected someday and be glorified and "reunited" with their souls. You need to do some more research Sister Rebecca. There have been many people with N.D.E.s who testify of Saints now in Heaven. |
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---Gordon on 5/31/07 |
No, there isn't a person in heaven right now. If their in heaven and our saved loved ones are in heaven, why in God's name would they leave heaven to met the ones remaining in the air along with the Lord? That doesn't make sense. And besides the bible tells us that there is no one in heaven but God and Jesus and the angels. |
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---Rebecca_D on 5/31/07 |
Yes, but I am ready to slap them both upside the head when I get there because of what they did to all of mankind :) |
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---Jimbo on 5/30/07 |
No one is in heaven yet. Everyone is dead.
It's written that when Jesus returns the second time the dead in Christ will rise first and the living will be caught up with them. If everyone immediately goes to heaven when they dies, who are the dead in Christ who risen? Blessed are they who rise in the first ressurection. |
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---Steveng on 1/11/07 |
Adam and Eve who walked with God in the Garden, Moses, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, David, Solomon, all of their wives, Sarah, Ruth, Esther, all the prophets ALL went to heave and it's easy to determine why: They were not Catholics :)) |
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---Caring on 1/11/07 |
Helen said: 'The reason I believe that is because of the animal skins that God clothed them with after they fell. God had to kill an animal to get the skins, which was symbolic of the Cross."
Another new interpretation. Wow, very impressed :)) |
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---Caring on 1/11/07 |
Yes, Adam and Eve are in heaven right now because when they died, they went to paridise and when Jesus died, he took all the OT saints to heaven with him. |
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---Rev_Herb on 1/10/07 |
They are not in Heaven, yet. they will be resurrected in the first or second resurrection.
As for all the people in the OT, Adam and Eve who walked with God in the Garden, Moses, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, David, Solomon, all of their wives, Sarah, Ruth, Esther, all the prophets and people who believed in God also were aware of someone coming in the future. They all knw about Jesus for He was prophesized to come. |
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---Steveng on 12/21/06 |
1 Cor. 15:45 states that the first Adam was of the dust and desired earthly things and the second Adam was a life-giving spirit and desired heavenly things. So you bear the sinful first and then the sinless. If your a life giving spirit I would say that is part of heaven. |
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---Tonne on 12/21/06 |
Eve had full knowledge, Genesis 3:1
1 Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, "Did God really say, 'You must not eat from any tree in the garden'?"
2 The woman said to the serpent, "We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, 3 but God did say, 'You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.' " |
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---Michael on 12/21/06 |
Helen- I hope youre right about them making it to heaven. God did sacrifice an animal in the garden for them, and they evidently taught their sons the meaning of the sacrifice, however I do notice that the bible never speaks of them offering a sacrifice themselves. But then theres alot that we arent told because theres only so much that we need for now. God bless & keep the faith! |
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---craige on 12/20/06 |
In Genesis nowhere in the Bible does it state that God or Adam told Eve about the apple and something that important should be stated. The command was given to Adam not to eat from the tree as Eve was not made yet.
Adam chose to sin and was chastised from God.
Eve was a victim to this. After she ate from the tree her husband was there. Why? So he must have been watching the entire scene. Why didnt he stop her? Marital conflict in the garden perhaps? |
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---Tonne on 12/20/06 |
What was the first lie ever recorded in the bible? That of the serpent (Satan) telling Eve that she would not die from eating from the tree but become like God right,Well the bible says that the dead are conscious of nothing. So if Eve after eating from the tree, did not die but continued her excitants in heaven or even another realm. Then who really is the liar? HUH |
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---Amber on 12/20/06 |
greetings,adam and eve did transgress the garden covenant by disobedience and was led astray by one in authority.they lost their imortality as a result of it but not their place in heaven.they now each hold a seat among the four and twenty elders. |
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---earl on 9/7/06 |
Helen, I agree with what you say about the animal skins. This was the first time that blood was shed. |
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---M.P. on 9/7/06 |
I believe that Adam and Eve did go to Heaven. The reason I believe that is because of the animal skins that God clothed them with after they fell. God had to kill an animal to get the skins, which was symbolic of the Cross. It was by God's grace, looking forward in time to the Cross, that took them to Heaven. |
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---Helen_5378 on 9/7/06 |
If they died in their sins, they are not in heaven; but if they died having their sins forgiven, they are: for no sin is allowed in heaven. |
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---Eloy on 9/7/06 |
Mima, There's no way to know for sure until we get there. The Bible doesn't say that they did or didn't, I hope they did, I don't wish hell on anybody, except satan and his demons, our job is to get the uncompromised gospel of Christ out, so people will avoid that awful place. The Bible says that hell has increased in size to accommodate sinful humanity(Isaiah 5:14) . --Mrs. Morgan |
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---Mrs._Morgan on 9/6/06 |
david6576
You have no idea how Adam and Eve repented of their sin. You should be aware that the only unforgivable sin, is against the Holy Ghost. Adam and Eve took a piece of fruit - forgivable. Getting one's hand caught in the cookie jar is nothing like idolatry, whereby millions have the god of their own understanding pinned to one's chest.
THEY ARE ALREADY THERE. With those of the just after the Saviour's Resurrection.
Judge not, that ye be not judged. |
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---Robert on 7/17/06 |
First of all I have no intentions of taking Christ off the cross, inorder to do the job he will be returning soon to do soon.
Second of all, I dont try to think on that score.
Why B/cos no matter what we say God say's That he will have Mercey on whom he shall have Mercey. |
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---Carla on 4/25/06 |
I can't recall where, but I believe I've read in the Bible that (paraphrasing) all humans fall into one of two categories: The children of Adam and those adopted by God through Christ. In other words, the lineage of sinful man (Adam) and the lineage of sinless man (Christ). If I'm correct, this would make Adam the antichrist. Draw your own conclusions. |
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---david8576 on 4/23/06 |
Will Adam and Eve go to heaven when Christ returns. |
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---Michael on 4/22/06 |
Fred S are you saying that anyone who lived prior to Jesus' earthly life cannot possibly go to heaven? |
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---M.A. on 2/3/06 |
It should be self evident, even to you Cliff. If they had not sinned, they would have stayed in the garden. A remark to Jimbo responding to his remark about 'mankind.' |
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---NVBarbara on 1/15/06 |
Jimbo: If you get to heaven, I would'nt think you would still have the desire to do what you have just mentioned. |
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---Linda6546 on 1/13/06 |
Jimbo :: Please---- you would be dishonouring your First Parents slapping them up side the head. Tragic!! |
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---Emcee on 1/13/06 |
Jimbo: You're probably being too rough on A&E. Consider this. In the garden, they had classroom instructions; but, they had no hands on experience, no practical application until they sinned (blew up the lab). Understanding & wisdom comes thru lifes' trials & errors. While the world is flunking out, Christians have an opportunity to go to the Head of the class --- come Lord! |
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---Leon on 1/10/06 |
NVB:What do you mean "no mankind?" They were told to be fruitful and fill the earth! How did you come up with that idea? |
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---1st_cliff on 1/10/06 |
John 3:3
Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
John 3:5
Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Did Adam & Eve know Jesus? |
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---Fred_S. on 1/10/06 |
No Herb I have never wondered about such things. What would be the point? To live by 'what ifs' is totally pointless. |
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---emg on 1/10/06 |
Have you ever wondered what would have happened if only Eve ate the fruit and Adam didn't? What of the offspring? Or what would have happened if they had one child before sinning? |
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---Rev_Herb on 1/9/06 |
I believe according to scripture, that they will be risen when Jesus comes for the resusrection, because it says in the NT that noone except Jesus came from & went to heaven. I wouldn't pass judgement on them because of Eve,because God takes care of that. |
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---canda3996 on 1/9/06 |
You are not saying that you are glad that they sinned? |
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---Jimbo on 1/9/06 |
They did only after Jesus died on the cross. Prior to that they were in a place known as Abraham's Bosom. |
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---Jay on 1/9/06 |
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