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What Is A Deacon

"Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well" (1 Timothy 3:12)
How then are single deacons and pastors allowed, or widowers, those who have no wife?

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Mary,
There were deaconess.Paul acknowledges them and send greetings to them.Ro.16.1-Paul states"servant of the church".Origional translation here is "deaconess".
Through Paul's personal persuasions deaconess dissappeared and his personal church doctrine prevailed.It is continued to be Paul's gospel today but Jesus stated no such disrespect to women.Deaconess could have only been started in Jesus' day because of the resistance from hebrew men upon women to not religiously participate equally with men.It remains this way today.
---earl on 2/13/10


But can't women who serve in the church in special ways be called "deaconesses"?
---Mary on 2/13/10


he must be the husband of one wife - precludes a woman deacon. as it follows a woman cannot be a husband Paul clearly sets forth deacon qualifications as exclusively for the male.
---Bill on 2/12/10


WIVY Please could you answer my question, and not the title given to it!
---alan8869_of_UK on 8/4/07


Acts 6:1-6 (HCSB) There's your answer. The deacons are to be help persons in the church to help the pastor with the practical work of the church.
---WIVV on 3/13/07




Mike. Instant replay. There would be no problem with Jesus being a deacon. He was a servant of servants. The word servant means deacon. Jesus actually holds every office there is. Pastor, evangelist, prophet, teacher, high priest, king, lord, apostle, overseer, bishop, etc. The fact is if you have to be married to serve then Jesus wouldn't quallify for any of these positions.
---john on 1/19/06


Right on Bruce. And how about Luke 18:22? Sell all that thou hast. mmmm. I wonder how much we can get for our wife and kids and the new pair of socks we got for Christmas?
---john on 1/19/06


AMEN Bro. Bruce
LOVE JESUS
---co_ach on 1/19/06


If we are to believe that this verse eliminates the female or single from the office of deacon(ess) because it is "to be taken litteraly" then we must treat any other verse the same?

Luke 14:26, "If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple."

If litteralism is always required, well, not many of us could claim to be a disciple of Christ.
---Bruce5656 on 1/19/06


Lets remember that the word servant in the Bible is the Greek word Deeakon. Servants are deacons, deacons are servants.Rom. 16:1 Phebe was a "servant" Greek word "deeakonos:
Sometimes the word servant comes from the word slave.Check the Greek words and you will find Jesus to be both.
---john on 1/19/06




In some churches, the phrase "husband of one wife" is used to exclude the divorced and re-married. This is because of the refusal to recognize the legitimacy of some types of divorce - once married, always married belief. But according to most of the commentaries, that view hard to support.

As to women becoming deacons, I believe that the church has the authority to determine what its leadership will be particularly in situations where there is no exacting interpretation.
---lee on 1/19/06


Bro. Alan,I was simply adding to your point...you are correct (if "husband of one wife"excludes women,it must also exclude unmarried men) if the whole passage is taken too literal then we must also exclude men with unruly children or whose wives are gossips or busybodies.....Husband of one wife ,i believe,means only one wife at a time.(ha ha)
LOVE JESUS
---co_ach on 1/19/06


Mike ... an interesting point! But is not the "body of Christ" His Christian people? We are the body of Christ. We do need deacons, pastors, call them what you will. And Jesus was the first pastor to his people - us.
---alan8869_of_UK on 1/19/06


John, on re-reading what I said to you Lee and Steve, I see how you may not have spotted the key point I was making which was if you extended Paul's instruction to mean just "no polygamists" this allows not only single and childless men, but also women. Which is what I believe he meant. I now see I need not have addressed my comment to you, because you had alrwady said this!!
---alan8869_of_UK on 1/19/06


FOUL!!! Why would Jesus Christ want to be a deacon to His own body. The deacons are to serve the body. So, to use Jesus in this point is a 5 yard penalty. Repeat 1st down.
---mike on 1/19/06


John ... please also look at my earlier post which was addressed to you "Those who think women can be deacons have also looked for Paul's real underlying meaning (no pokygamy)"
All along I have said the passage does NOT mean single men only.
---alan8869_of_UK on 1/19/06


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John ... Please read my response 1/18 to Lee.
Thgere are those here who take the Bible words as written so literally that they miss the meaning. Literally Paul DOES debar the unmarried. As you say that is nonsense. So the words are not to be taken literally.
So what DOES the passage mean? ... that deacons should not be polygamists. That then allows not only singles, those woth no children, but women.
---alan8869_of_UK on 1/19/06


allan8869. You have eliminated Jesus Christ from being a deacon or in leadership by interpreting the verse to mean only married men. You really have to be kidding that you think Jesus himself doesn't quallify to be in leadership. What about the rest of the single church leaders in Scripture? I guess they don't make the mark either.
---john on 1/18/06


I posted this question to get some discussion on women deacons, and look where we have got! It makes you think. Thank goodness the moderator does not compel us to stick to the point.
---alan8869_of_UK on 1/18/06


Co-ach ... the son and the daughter, are they still children? They clearly are not in "the house"!
---alan8869_of_UK on 1/18/06


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Lets carry this a little farther.......there are two deacons in my church,one has a son in the state pen. for armed robbery, and the other has a daughter who is a sleeping with one of her teachers at school(or so i have heard).
Should they be allowed to remain a deacon for they are not"ruling their children and their houses well" in my opinion???
LOVE JESUS
---co_ach on 1/18/06


Lee ... yes I agree Paul wished to bar poligamists from being deacons, he had no wish to bar the unmarried, or those without children, or women.
---alan8869_of_UK on 1/18/06


alan8869_of_UK - "You have changed his words to allow single men,...". Not really true, but if you take the verse to an extreme, you would have to bar those that do not have children from being deacons.

I read the purpose for which Paul made the statement,and that was really to stop polygamists from being deacons; not to bar single men from being deacons.

Those that were elected deacons in Acts 6 apparently were single as we see no mention of wives.
---lee on 1/18/06


Deep searching question. This question was the subject of much discussion in my home one week ago. At the very least the wording here implies that a deacon should be married. Purpose of this statement would seem to be directly opposite of what the RCC deacons are.
---mima on 1/18/06


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A deacon is an office in the Preisthood of God.
---SLCGuy on 1/18/06


A servant. We need to be more concerned about serving, than the title we wear.

He must increase, but I must decrease.
John 3:30
---mike on 1/18/06


All I can say is, don't spend so much time trying to be politically correct. Take the scripture for Truth. If you try to read and live by God's Word, there will be some people who are offended, including yourself at times. A small price to pay for what He did for us.
---mike on 1/18/06


Lee John and Steve ... Paul said that a deacon must be the husband of one wife. Thus a single man cannot be a deacon. You have changed his changed his words to allow single men, because you have assumed he would have allowed them.. Those who think women can be deacons have also looked for Paul's real underlying meaning (no pokygamy) You aannot accuse them of changing what he said without accepting that you do the same.
---alan8869_of_UK on 1/18/06


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That verse prohibits polygamists from being officers in the church. The Jews even during the time of Christ, still had laws governing the practice of polygamy according to Systematic Theology by Wayne Grudem, through the Roman law forbid it elsewhere in the Empire.
---lee on 1/17/06


It doesn't say that single people or widowers or women are not allowed to be deacons or pastors in that Scripture.
---john on 1/17/06


It says the same thing about pastors...would Paul not have been quallified to pastor a church? How about Christ? Husband of one wife means not being married more then once, not "I can not do what God called me to do until".
---Steve on 1/17/06


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