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Call A Priest Father

Is it a sin to call a Catholic priest" Father"? OR according to the Bible is it just wrong to call a Catholic priest "Father"?

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1 Thessalonians 2:11 As ye know how we exhorted and comforted and charged every one of you, as a father [doth] his children,


1 Timothy 5:1 Rebuke not an elder, but intreat [him] as a father, [and] the younger men as brethren,


James 2:21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
---francis on 4/21/10


I am Christian and not catholic, and therefore I do not call any catholic leaders "fathers' because I already have my very own real Everlasting and Perfect Father, the one Papa Jesus, and I do not need any other clay imposters who are not my father and can never match him.
---Eloy on 4/21/10


I know many Catholic Priests - in two countries, on two different continents, who request being called by their given name. One went as far to say he is a normal man, with a day job, just to put it into perspective. Needless to say they are all a younger (under 50) generation.
---Carlos on 4/20/10


Matt.23 v 9. God gave No man charge or authiority to be called father in any type of spirit leadership. Especially the pope of r-catholocism The mother apostate church. They'r such Good people but so spiritually darkened with their idol worship & the such like.
---Lawrence on 2/10/10


Our Father, who is in heaven...
A Preist is a man (Still a sinner in God's eye's). The Catholic Church does not teach this fact when asking its members to call the Preist "Father". Why is that??
---Chuck on 2/8/10




We would be wise to do as Jesus instructs us.To search for the truth in love. We have many schisms within Christianity. All with doctrinal distinctions. We are called to reason with one another. We all have spiritual gifts and if we would share what God has done in our own lives, perhaps we could achieve peace and unity within the body of Christ. I was raised Catholic & sadly & with serious contemplation had to leave it out of doctrinal issues and due to the fact that the Catholic Church would knowingly and willfully put the protection of the Church over the protection of many innocent children whose lives were forever altered by pedophilia. I love the Catholic people & would be open to discussing why we believe what we believe.
---Patti on 12/5/09


The bible says call no man spiritually father except your father who is in heaven. There are no more priest. The last High Priest was Jesus Christ. Call no man Rabbi for Jesus Christ is the last Rabbi.
---Rhonda on 8/26/09


Jesus also said call no one teacher, for one is our teacher, the Christ (Mt 23:10). So make sure if you have Kids not to call their teacher teacher, say Mr or Mrs....lol
---Ruben on 8/26/09


The bible says call no man spiritually father except your father who is in heaven. There are no more priest. The last High Priest was Jesus Christ. Call no man Rabbi for Jesus Christ is the last Rabbi.
---Rhonda on 8/26/09


Yes It Is a sin, Matt 23 v 9. God gave No authority or charge to man to be father in a type of spiritual leadership,Not even reverand because mankind fails.
---Lawrence on 8/25/09


Romans 4:16-17: . . . Abraham, for he is the father of us all, as it is written, "I have made you the father of many nations . . ." (cf. 9:10, Phil. 2:22, Jas. 2:21)

1 Corinthians 4:15: For though you have countless guides in Christ, you do not have many fathers. For I became your father in Christ Jesus through the gospel.
---Ruben on 8/25/09


Obewan ... it is not everybody.
---alan8566_of_uk on 8/25/09




Why is everyone only jumping on the Catholics on this one? For centuries Protestants have referred to their famous theologians as church Fathers or Fathers of the faith. Isn't that the same kind of problem, or do they get off the hook because they did some seminal work in establishing the faith of others?
---obewan on 8/25/09


Yes It Is a sin, Matt 23 v 9. God gave No authority or charge to man to be father in a type of spiritual leadership,Not even reverand because mankind fails. God Only Is Reverand because he has Not done any sin. If the catholic priest is not married & has No children he is No father(could have out of wedlock). If he is married & has children then he is a father. He is Not a father to a group people in a relig-fallowing.
---Lawrence on 8/25/09


Regarding what the Bible says in Matthew 23:8-12: There's a whole lot of juggling going on here, in an attempt to validate doing something the Bible says not to. I've been a pastor for 30 years, and have people call me by my first name. Why wouldn't we err on the side of scripture, rather than push an agenda that appears to be a violation? Doesn't 1Thess say, "avoid all appearance of evil"? I would rather be in error while attempting to obey scripture, than stretch or bend it to accommodate an agenda.
---Wendell on 8/3/09


St.Paul was called father and didn't condemn this. Elders in the early Church were called father. I'm Catholic. Jesus wasn't easily understood. The ancient mind can be confusing. Jesus said "eat my body drink my blood". Bread and wine is Jesus' body and blood (substantiation). "Do this in remembrance of me" Our Mass every day remembers. The Bible, a book collection, doesn't say it's the only doctrine, there are many wonderful things Jesus did and weren't written. Father is a title of respect. Don't believe the pope (father in Italian) is of Peter? At least show tolerance. The Protestant church goes back before Luther or Henry. Orthodox were once Catholic before separating. Remember this? Honor thy Father and Mother.
---Stan on 8/17/08


Jen, well said.
Some take parts of the Bible literal as it suits them. They quote this verse of not calling no one father, but they refuse to take Jesus' Words in John Chapter 6 calling His Body True Food and His Blood True Drink. Matthew 16:13-19 Authority given to Peter.
They even reject Baptism for Salvation as in Matthew 28:19.
But, they will not call anyone Father on earth!
---Nicole on 6/6/08


I never thought of that. i was raised catholic and I left the catholic church because there are alot of things about it that I didn't belief in.
---julie on 6/5/08


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There is only one priest and one altar from which the ones we call priests have no right to partake. The one priest is Jesus, and all others are usurpers and conmen. They may be very nice people. They may even get to go to Heaven. Who knows? But they are not our Father. Why would we even be talking to Catholic priests? Beats me.
---frances008 on 6/4/08


I'm so happy I knew the Answer to this when i was a Littleboy(10).

Let me ask you this,
Is it a Sin, Not Listen to Jesus,
when HE tells you NOT to do something?
IF you Believe Jesus, You'll call NO man Father or Rabbi,
Because you Have BUT 1 Father & 1 Master,
you do well to Listen to Him...
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 6/4/08


Jen. Yes! Protestants take verses and twist them to mean what there man-made church taught them. St. Paul regularly referred to Timothy as his child: "Therefore I sent to you Timothy, my beloved and faithful child in the Lord, to remind you of my ways in Christ" (1 Cor. 4:17). 1 Tim. 1:2, 2 Tim. 1:2. In 1 Cor. 4:14-15, St. Paul told Christians that He was there "Father"! Christ use hyperbole.

Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.
In IC.XC,
Ramon
---Ramon on 6/4/08


The Bible says to call no one father but God alone.
---Brian on 6/4/08


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Jesus teaches us to call His successesors, Father. If you do not believe this is true you are most likely Protestant or even Jewish because you are taking the Bible way to literal. Jesus does say that there is one Father in Heaven and you shall not call anyone else Father which means that you shall not worship any other false gods (ten commandments). If you are having trouble with verses you should ask a local priest not make blogs that aren't true.
---Jen on 6/3/08


Emcee...I still will not call a priest by the title of "father". The Bible says not to do it and I won't. I stand on His Word. And Jesus is not the Father...
---Holly4jc on 2/4/08


Holly::Jesus said "The father & I are one"this dogma of the blessed trinity I do not attempt to explain we know that the 3 divinities are 3 seperate persons all equally powerful, distinct, but yet one and the same God but NOT like in a marriage as you explain.because in a marriage The husband is the head of His household Gen3:16Read Matt28:18-20Forgiveness of sins is explained Here .Gods word should not raise an arguement we Follow,if we trust His word.DO YOU AGREE?
---Emcee on 2/4/08


Jesus did however say "The Father & I are ONE"just about 91times in the OT & NT Matt10:20is just one.
---Emcee on 2/1/08

Jesus and the Father are one...as in one Godhead, but Jesus is still not the Father. Jesus is Jesus and the Father is the Father and the Holy Spirit is the Holy Spirit, yet they are one. Just as a man and woman become one as they get married, the man is still the man and the woman is still the woman, yet they are one unit. :-)
---Holly4jc on 2/4/08


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Catholics are not damned, but maybe some of their leaders are because they have led people astray. Calling a priest 'father' is symptom of the disease of unbiblical teaching which is rampant in Catholicism. The Church puts itself as a gatekeeper stopping people from studying the Truth. The Church since the 1600s has tried to stop the Bible getting published and spread around in Europe. Now it retranslates it to suit the agenda of the day.
---frances on 2/2/08


Call no man "Father" as in God the Father.
The priest is not God the Father, and certainly are not calling him that when we say Fr. Rookey etc.You can say Pastor Rookey. Very common in the Catholic Church to do so.And Catholics are not damned.
That is a complete lie and false statement.

Christianity is the cornerstone of the Catholic faith in Jesus Christ true God and true man, One with the Father and the Holy Spirit...
All who accept Jesus are saved....never damned!
---lisa on 2/1/08


Holly::I guess I have to agree to Disagree Jesus did however say "The Father & I are ONE"just about 91times in the OT & NT Matt10:20is just one.
---Emcee on 2/1/08


Holly::I guess I have to agree to Disagree Jesus did however say "The Father & I are ONE"just about 91times in the OT & NT Matt10:20is just one.
---Emcee on 2/1/08


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Holly::I guess I have to agree to Disagree Jesus did however say "The Father & I are ONE"just about 91times in the OT & NT Matt10:20is just one.
---Emcee on 2/1/08


Mark 7:27: "But Jesus said unto her, Let the children first be filled:
for it is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it unto the
dogs."
If Jesus called them "children", is it unreasonable that the "children"
call him "father"?
---Nana on 1/31/08


I only read one. I did not think a great deal of the comics, but if they are true, they are pretty scary, judging by the one I read. The idea seems basically, shake us to wake us.
---frances on 1/30/08


Frances, have you been reading too many Jack Chick comic books?
---InimicusStultitiae on 1/30/08


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Emcee stated: The name Father given to a priest is a term of Respect,as He is in the capacity of Jesus ,when he is in the confessional as it is Jesus who forgives sins Not the priest.He is represantitive of Jesus & deserves the name father.

Emcee...not even Jesus is called "father", only Father God is called Father...not Jesus. The Bible says God has given us Pastors, Teachers, Prophets, Evangelists and Apostles, not fathers. A man of God who oversees the flock is a PASTOR.
---Holly4jc on 1/29/08


Read Mathew 23-9
---Betty on 1/29/08


`alan, I already shed accurate light on Pontiff Pilate being a catholic before the term was commonly used ---Eloy on 2/28/06 POPE PLACE OF JESUS /1113932055.htm


Alan, I do not "think" that I do not sin, I do not sin, instead I do Christ. ---Eloy on 2/12/06 Do Christians Ever Sin /1139435815.htm

This is to refresh your memory, Eloy

The above contradicts what you said to Alan recently.
---Observer on 1/28/08


Pastor, is a priest,incharge of a congregation of a church, a spiritual counsellor.The name Father given to a priest is a term of Respect,as He is in the capacity of Jesus ,when he is in the confessional as it is Jesus who forgives sins Not the priest.He is represantitive of Jesus & deserves the name father.RC's know this. Other denominations who are NOT affiliated to Jesus Church do not understand. May address His office in the appropriate manner they desire.Afterall, you are not,HIS Flock.
---Emcee on 1/28/08


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There is only ONE mediator. The rest are magicians waving their hands and shuffling their feet and casting spells on bread hoping to bring down God on demand. We are being led astray by the leaders. Catholicism damns us we need to do what Revelations says and get out of her.
---frances on 1/28/08


Jeanette...I have asked myself this question many times, what if I were in that position, what would I do? I have decided that I would call the priest "pastor" since the bible does say that God gave some to be "pastors", along with teachers, evangelists, prophets and apostles (part of the 5 fold ministry). Hope that helps. :-)
---Holly4jc on 1/28/08


I have been a christian for many years and I have read the passage that says "call no man father". I am going to a catholic funeral very soon and I wonder what I am supposed to call the "Priest". I cannot call him "Father", but I don't want to be disrespectful.
---Jeanette on 1/26/08


WHICH of these two positions is more illogical?

1) The position that defends delusions

or

2) the position that debates the delusions?


By definition, delusions do not exist, and objective truth will never persuade a delusion to cease, and suddenly become rational.

What is gained by continuance in futility, other than frustration?
---Observer on 1/26/08


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.alanOfUk, better said, Pilate was an antiPope. Whenever anyone, as the romans, tries to take Christ's rightful throne, the end result is always as the infamous fallen one, the devil. The Romans do not want to ascend through the only straight and narrow way, but try to gain the kingdom through another way which is never possible. None can kill the King and martyr his seed and try to take his kingdom for themselves, that is foolish suicide. And then to wrongly take his name upon themself is utter blasphemy
---Eloy on 1/26/08


Eloy ... I was meaning that you had said Pilate was the first Pontiff, who is also called the Pope, so you had previously siad Pilate was the first Pope.
But you did not mean that, I can see
I agree that Jesus, as God, is the first and only Father/Papa/Pope
---alan_of_UK on 1/25/08


.alanOfUk, Nope, "no But". What I said was, Pontius and Pontiff are the same word, meaning "Roman overseer". The attached suffix means the same thing. Etymology: Pont < pons, meaning "bridge", -ius < -osus, -ous, meaning "to have, condition of": thus Pontius= One who bridges. And -iff < -fex, -facere, meaning "to make, made to": thus Pontiff= One who bridges."
---Eloy on 1/25/08


.alanOfUk, why is it so hard for you to understand what I say and what I say is God's Word? I commonly put things into the simplest terms for all to understand, even a little child, and yet you say, "Eloy, But..." There is no "buts" in the substance of what I say. Nope, no but, just One Real Pope, Jesus Christ, and all else are idols.
---Eloy on 1/25/08


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.alanOfUk, I have said so many times, Pontius and Pontiff are equal in Pilate's name. And that there is only one Pope, one Papa, one Father, one Lord Jesus Christ, he always has been, always was, and always will be the only Everlasting Father, and there never was and there never will be another Papa besides my only Papa, the Creator of all. Surely you can understand this. The false religions may steal his name, and the name of us his seed, Christian, as though they are the same, but they are none of me.
---Eloy on 1/25/08


One have to read between the lines.
It don't say in the bible'THOU SHALL NOT
SMOKE.'But when you read between the lines
your'll know that it destroy the body.
Which is a sin before God.
Therefore 'FATHER' HAVE TO BE PUT IN
PERSPECTIVE BEFORE IT CAN BE UNDERSTOOD.
---Jack_8773 on 1/24/08


There were three Popes all claiming to be the Head of the Catholic Church. It was well-known that to be made Pope was almost a death wish. Many popes were poisoned. The last one was John Paul 1. It is a political position of power.
---frances on 1/24/08


Eloy ... "There is only one Pope, Jesus Christ"
But, Eloy, have you not previously said that Pilate was the first Pope?
---alan_of_UK on 1/24/08


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Jesus Christ is the High priest...others follow in his footsteps are also priests on earth.
It is in alignment with Jesus , never against Jesus. The priest being called Fr. Peter for example... is not the same thing as God the Father...there is a obvious difference. Anyone can figure that out.
---lisa on 1/24/08


Paul doesn't say he is father of the Corinthians nor of Timothy. Abraham is a predessessor FOREfather, and all forefathers are not a relation to us. Paul did not receive the name "Father" from his parishioners, nor did any saint of God, for we know that this name "Father" for spiritual leadership belongs only to one, that is the Lord, he alone is the Everlasting Father, and we are his Children. "As a Father pities Children, YHWH pities them that regard him." Ps.103:13.
---Eloy on 1/24/08


There is only one Pope, Jesus Christ.
---Eloy on 1/24/08


We must keep Jesus' words in proper context for the truth: On whom was he referring too? He was not speaking about all fathers, but this: "Upon the chair of Moses have set the Teachers and the Ministers..." (ref: Matthew 23:2). These are the persons he is speaking about, and who wrongly assume God's Title "Father" and "Papa" (or, Pope). Thus, "And he whoever father, call not yours upon earth: for one is your Papa which is in heaven." (ref: Matthew 23:9).
---Eloy on 1/24/08


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We must keep Jesus' words in proper context for the truth: On whom was he referring too? He was not speaking about all fathers, but this: "Upon the chair of Moses have set the Teachers and the Ministers..." (ref: Matthew 23:2). These are the persons he is speaking about, and who wrongly assume God's Title "Father" and "Papa" (or, Pope). Thus, "And he whoever father, call not yours upon earth: for one is your Papa which is in heaven." (ref: Matthew 23:9).
---Eloy on 1/24/08


Jesus is the Father, who alone holds the rightful name "The Everlasting Father". Jesus was saying don't call any religious man your father, for I alone am your Father, I alone have graven you upon the palms of my hands, I alone have redeemed your life from the grave, and crown you with mercy and compassions: It was not Peter, nor Paul, nor Silas, but I, I am your Father, and there is no other.
---Eloy on 1/24/08


"Not shaming you I write these things, but as children my beloved I preach. If for ten thousand tutors you have with Christ, even not many fathers, for in Christ Jesus for his gospel I engendered you. I request then you, become imitators of me. On account of this I sent to you Timothy who is a child, my beloved, and true in Lord, who you will remember my ways ordered in Christ, as everywhere in every church I teach." I Cor. 4:14-17.
---Eloy on 1/24/08


Chirst said, call no man Father[with the
exception of who we call Daddy].But in the
church of God there is no fathers of the faith.One would like to consider himself
more than he is in order to present himself
on the highest scale of leadership.
But the proof is in the putting.Not by word of mouth.
---Jack_8773 on 1/23/08


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Why did Jesus say Call no man father except your Heavenly Father? The reason is that he knew that priests and Pharisees and political leaders and parents would all step in to try and get you to obey them rather than to obey God. There is one mediator and that is Jesus.
---frances on 1/23/08


Jesus said call NO man on earth 'father' or 'teacher.' That must apply to our natural fathers and school teachers. But I guess we can still call our moms 'mother.'
---InimicusStultitiae on 1/23/08


Like the Father told the disciples to feed His sheep,tend His flock.As priests to are following in the footsteps of God who is the Father of all.They are not "The Father" God. There is a distinction. Calling someone "God who is the Father" as 'Father ' is wrong. Priests know they are not "God the Father" so does everyone else. Also call you earthly father your "father". in the Bible does not say to call your earthly father "dad, daddy, pa or papa.
---lisa on 1/23/08


I looked up the link DAVID put up and it backs up quite well with Scriptures why Catholics call preist fathers. Those of you who have your minds set on Mat 23:9 should go to that link and look up for yourselves in your own bibles the Scriptures where the apostles refer to themselves as fathers.
---Ghost on 1/23/08


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Jesus is speaking figuratively, not literally to emphasize that all legitimate authority and truth ultimately comes from God. If we take the passage literally, Jesus would be contradicting himself for repeating the 4th Commandment (Mt:19:19) and
referring to Father Abraham (Lk 16:24)
---janet on 1/23/08


When we read the 23rd chapter in Matthew, we know that Jesus was talking to the Pharisee's who were using their titles to be exalted above all men. That is what Jesus meant by Call no man Father on earth. WE ARE NOT TO EXALT OURSELVES, WE SHOULD HUMBLE OURSELVES. After reading the entire chapter and having a better understanding of it, then and only then can YOU decide whether or not it is wrong to call a priest father. Does he use the title so he is exalted or does he use it for his servitude to God?
---Denise on 1/23/08


FATHER [Heb. 'av, Gr. pater], has various meanings in the Bible. The word has many figurative and derived uses. A spiritual ancestor, whether good or bad, as Abraham, "the father of all them that believe" [Rom. 4:11], and the devil, "Ye are of your father the devil" [JOHN 8:44]. One who exhibits paternal kindness and wisdom to another: "be unto me a father and a priest" [Judg. 17:10]. God is Father: as Creator of the universe. As one who takes care of His spiritual children.
---catherine on 1/23/08


The Bible saya call NO man father.
---donald on 1/23/08


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1st: HEAVENLY FATHER is your father up above
2nd FATHER is a biological parent or someone who has raised and that has passed down dna or the genes u have circulating in ur body right now
what gives u the right to call ur priest someone that speaks the word but did not make up the word father
The scripture basically says call ur parents or dad father as he is known as the 1 who raised u and made u what u r today with his genes dnabut know me as heavenly father who has made u cause u
---danielle on 1/22/08


I refuse to call a RCC "priest" "father". I also refuse to call RCC nuns "sister". I believe that both are wrong. Man must never be elevated.
---Helen_5378 on 9/18/06


Matthew 23 is Jesus speaking regarding Spiritual Leaders. If you will study Matthew 23:9 in the Amplified it states "Call no man father (in the church) on the earth....." In the church ...... he is speaking spiritualy
---txgal on 9/18/06


St. Paul refers to himself as father of the believers at Corinth. 1 Corinthians 4:15 "Even if you should have countless guides to Christ, yet you do not have many fathers, for I became your father in Christ Jesus through the gospel."
THUS, SAINT-PAUL IS WRONG?

What about non-catholic christians calling their bible teachers "masters" or "doctors" etc.)?

Have a look at:
http://www.catholic.com/library/Call_No_Man_Father.asp
---David on 4/27/06


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St. Paul refers to himself as father of the believers at Corinth. 1 Corinthians 4:15 "Even if you should have countless guides to Christ, yet you do not have many fathers, for I became your father in Christ Jesus through the gospel."
THUS, SAINT-PAUL IS WRONG?

What about non-catholic christians calling their bible teachers "masters" or "doctors" etc.)?

Have a look at:
http://www.catholic.com/library/Call_No_Man_Father.asp
---David on 4/27/06


Matt 23:9 says it all..
---Lynn on 1/21/06


"And he whoever father, call not yours upon earth: for one is your Papa which is in heaven. An elder scold not, but dialogue as a father; young men, as brothers: old women, as mothers; young women, as sisters, in all innocence." Matthew 23:9; I Timothy 5:1,2.
---Eloy on 1/21/06


Herb ... that was very firm! But what about one's own physical father? Surely we are allowed to call him father?
By the way, I do share your reservation(to put it mildly) about calling a priest "father"... I can just about understand someone calling their own dearly respected local priest "father", but not just any old priest that happens to hear your confession!
---alan8869_of_UK on 1/21/06


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Herb & jerry::How do you address the 4th Commandment "Honour your father & mother"God is our Heavenly Father that is the alluding to in that verse. Your Earthly Father is who begat YOU-- maybe you called him Pappa or Pops_ or dad or Daddy-or Hey Man!he is your father too.God knows what we mean when we addresd one as Father-its a term of respect.
---Emcee on 1/21/06


Matthew 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
---Rev_Herb on 1/21/06


Mat 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
---jerry6593 on 1/21/06


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