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What Is Word Of Faith

Please give your opinion of the Word of Faith ministries and/or the name it claim it ministries. Are they in fact the same, I actually cannot tell one from the other.

Moderator - Different name for the same thing.

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Joshua, I would like to ask if you have done any extensive research on Kenneth Copeland and others of the Word of Faith Movement, Acts 17:11, 2 Timothy 2:14-19, and 2 Peter Chapter 2?

I have done my research. Time and time again these people have been exposed as being FALSE TEACHERS, who prey on the ignorance of others.

I know this may sound harsh, but I am only sharing the truth.
---Rob on 8/22/08

People who claim to have faith in GOD/ Jesus can be identified by the fruit they bare. Are they using their gift of faith to help, minister, and serve others? Are their words biblically sound and used to bring others to know the person of Jesus, the good news of salvation and the kingdom as Jesus spoke of in the New Testament and that were taught by the disciples of the holy book. The collection plate is made fuller by people who are made to believe they are saved although they have not repented of sin. When I was saved and baptised my life was changed, but not by my doing.
---April on 8/22/08

All I can say is, Kenneth Copeland minstries has blessed me immensely
I got ahold of some Kenneth Copeland tapes, and God used his ministry to turn my life around. As for tongues and other "minors", you should ask someone who actually speaks in tongues. As for healing and prosperity, did you ever take time to read about Solomon and the Temple. Did you read how many talents of gold expended on it. Does God say how it was too rich for Him. Also, about this thing about money. Psalms 112:3 says "wealth and riches shall be in his house". Wealth isn't the problem, serving God with it is what matters.
I pray that God will show you this.
Be blessed in the Lord brother or whoever wrote this.
---Joshua on 8/21/08

While we are told to "ask and receive", this is a privilege, not a license.

The problems of "name it and claim it" are well illustrated by a line from a song by a Christian satire group (unfortunately, I don't remember who sang it):
"Make me healthy, make me wealthy, and Lord won't you bless my everlasting shopping list!"
---StrongAxe on 11/30/07

Who believes this movement is a cult?
---Kella3336 on 11/30/07

Faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God. If the words they speak are the annointed word of God brought forth by his spirit it should apply. If not this work or counsel of man will come to nought.
---Delmar on 11/29/07

They are both the same thing, and are both false teachings. The Word of Faith doctrine teaches that you can speak into existence anything and everything you want. They are closely intertwined with the false prosperity gospel.
---Helen_5378 on 3/13/07

SAM, read this blog and all of the Moderators' comments.
---Diane on 3/12/07

Alan you're wrong about USA not going broke. They are billions-trillions of dollars in debt from helping other countries giving money borrowed to give. Many loans were forgiven other countries and USA paid loans.In 10years 8,600 companies sold to foreign counties,lost resources. There's trade deficit of 4 trillion dollars from 1971 -2003. 56% of money borrowed is owed to foreign countries.Money USA put into other countries is being used to buy out USA busineses ,USA-BANKRUPT. Rich in appearence only.
---Darlene_1 on 1/24/06

"Name it and claim it" is supposed to be a derogatory title for "Word of Faith." Not totally unlike Martin Luther's experience when he was persecuted for discovering the truth of justification by faith. He was labeled a protestant (from the word protestor). Similarily, John the Baptist was labeled as demon possessed and even Jesus, Himself, was accused of being of the devil ... all by the religious people of the day.
---DoryLory on 1/24/06

Because there have been abuses amongst the faith movement, especially with greed and materialism, many seem quick to judge the entire movement and anyone associated with it.

Romans 10:8 - "But what does it say? 'The Word is near you, even in your mouth and in your heart'; that is, the Word of Faith which we proclaim"
---DoryLory on 1/24/06

Irene, God is much better than Santa Claus. And yes, He did say we would lack nothing. Read Psalms 91. And how about "My God shall supply all my needs according to His riches in Christ Jesus"? Rickey, I love your faith, it will be honored by the Lord.
---john on 1/24/06

Rickey, the USA has few inhabitants in a huge kand, with vast natural resources. It was aboe to avoid the depredations of its land during two world wars whish destroyed Europes wealth. It was able to sell arms and material to the European countries, and to lend money to them for their rebuilding.
Britain finished the war absolutely broke. The USA has been able to avoid that.
That may be the gift from God.
---alan8869_of_UK on 1/23/06

Are you all lacking finances in your life??? Read Deuteronomy 28 and see the blessings and curses. By us, as heirs of God and joint-heirs w/ Christ, obeying God we are automatically qualified to recieve the blessings. God has blessed in the U.S. so that we can have more than enough & bless others.
---Rickey on 1/23/06

Rickey ... so that is why so many Christians hang on to their money.
---alan8869_of_UK on 1/23/06

Rickey..Am I to understand that God is some kind of super Santa Clause, and as long as I'm a Christian, I can be financially rich, and not lacking in anything? It seems to me in my Bible, Christians are instructed to help the poor, especially "those who are of the household of faith". Jesus said "the poor you will always have with you". (Or is He referring to those who are not Christians)?
---Irene on 1/22/06

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Yes, He became poor that we would be rich financially, but not only financially. He wants us to have the God-kind of life. A life of wholeness, nothing missing nothing broken. If we are lacking in an area we need to find out what God has promised us and obtain it. God delighted in the prosperity of His servants, imagine how much more He delights in the prosperity of His kids.

Moderator - Are you rich financially Rickey? Do our Christian brothers and sisters in third world countries just lack the faith?
---Rickey on 1/22/06

If any of you want to be poor I'm sure you won't have to work at it. But 3 John 1:2 says " Beloved, I wish that in all things that thou mayest prosper and be in good health as thy soul prospereth". Poverty is a curse through the entire Bible that God's people should be free of. Ps. 37:25...I have never seen the righteous forsaken or their seed begging bread".

Moderator - There is a large gap between poverty and being rich.
---john on 1/22/06

Rickey ... Yes, Jesus became poor so that we may become rich. Do you really believe that this refers to earthly financial riches?
---alan8869_of_UK on 1/22/06

No I am not. I am just sharing the word. Hosea 4:6 let's us know that some christians are missing out on God's best because they do not have the knowledge of it.

Moderator - No you are not what?
---Rickey on 1/22/06

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Jude 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.

Jude 1:4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
---Rev_Herb on 1/22/06

Another example is money. IICorinthians 8:9 let's us know that Jesus became poor that we could be made rich. So declare that you are no longer in lack of anything because Jesus became poor that you might be made rich.

Moderator - Are you saying true Christians are the rich ones?
---Rickey on 1/22/06

The bible let's us know that we are made in God's image and after His likeness.(Gen.1:26;5:1) God is a Spirit and so are we.(John4:24) Since God spoke and had what He said, we can do the same.(Job 22:28;Proverbs 18:20-21; Mark 11:23) We just have to find out what the Word says about are need and speak what the word says instead of the situation. Example, healing, we need to stand on the Word in 1Peter2:24 and speak it.
---Rickey on 1/22/06

We have an enemy who doesn't care if we over or under-shoot the mark just as long as we miss it. In my personal experience with a WoF ministry I saw, from studing the Bible, how perilously unbalanced they were. They majored in the minors (speaking in tongues without interpretation, belief in having a personal prayer language, being slaining in the spirit, had a woman pastor & ordained women elders, etc.). They used socio-psychological manipulation to "control" their flock.
---Leon on 1/22/06

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You can call it name and claim but they call it ask and recieve. What's wrong with that? They believe that by faith all things are possible. That we have the authority against the work of the devil and can move mountains. Their teachings on being rich are a bit too much for me.
---john on 1/21/06

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